1x16GB vs 2x8GB vs 4x4GB RAM in 2022 | Single vs Dual Channel | 1080P, 1440p and 4K Tests

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    Hello people :D
    In this video I tested several RAM scenarios like Single Channel, Dual Channel and Dual Channel with both Single and Dual Rank. Enjoy!
    00:00 - Explaining RAM Channel and Ranks
    02:47 - INTRO
    04:10 - Build Specifications
    04:41 - Assassin's Creed: Valhalla
    05:25 - Cyberpunk 2077
    06:04 - Forza Horizon 5
    06:44 - Horizon: Zero Dawn
    07:17 - PUBG Battlegrounds
    07:58 - Fortnite
    08:33 - Call of Duty: Warzone
    09:28 - Lost Ark
    10:26 - CS:GO
    11:10 - Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    12:04 - CONCLUSION
    17:30 - Channel Members
    17:50 - More Videos
    Hope you enjoy the video. Comment with your thoughts about it. Don't forget to hit like, subscribe and share the video if you can.
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    AMD PC USED for CPU testing:
    MB: MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX II
    RAM: 2x8Gb Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200MHz CL14)
    GPU: AMD RADEON RX 6800 @2400/2100 MHz
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
    SSD: 500Gb Kingston Nvme
    PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
    CASE: None
    INTEL 10/11th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
    MB: MSI Z490 Tomahawk (Latest Bios)
    RAM: 2x8Gb Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200 MHz CL14)
    GPU: RX 6800 @2400MHz / 2100MHz
    SSD: Kingston V300 120Gb
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
    PSU: Seasonic SIII 650W Bronze
    CASE: Aerocool One Frost Edition
    INTEL 12th Gen PC USED for CPU testing:
    MB: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus ELITE (DDR4)
    RAM: 2x8Gb Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3200 MHz CL14)
    GPU: RX 6800 @2400MHz / 2100MHz
    SSD: Kingston V300 240Gb
    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2Tb 7200 rpm
    PSU: Aerocool X-Strike 800W 80+ Silver Semi Modular
    CASE: None
    My Main PC (used for GPU testing):
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (4.75GHz Curve Optimizer)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S
    MB: Asus X570-F Strix
    RAM: 2x8Gb Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19 (3800 MHz, CL16 / Tightened Sub-timings)
    GPU: AMD RADEON RX 6800 @2400/2100 MHz
    HDD: 1x2TB + 1x4TB
    SSD: 240Gb Kingston Nvme + 500Gb Toshiba Nvme
    PSU: Corsair RM750X (White) 750W 80+ Gold
    CASE: Thermaltake View 51 TG
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  • @AncientGameplays
    @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +240

    My people, this is a RE-Release, and the video on march was set to non-visible, being only available to me and channel supporters.
    Cheers!

    • @adriancruz88
      @adriancruz88 Před 2 lety

      Sadly this test will have to be redone once AMD release 5600 X3D

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +13

      Nah, actually it doesn't, same thing for almost all scenarios. I should have tested FC6 now that I think of it though.
      Still, I will retest it later with DDR5

    • @JustAGuy85
      @JustAGuy85 Před 2 lety +1

      @@AncientGameplays Hey, so, I use HWiNFO64 while gaming. Bear with me lol..
      So, in HWiNFO64, you can see DRAM Read Bandwidth and DRAM Write Bandwidth. The jury is still out on exactly how accurate that is. It says Gbps, but it appears to actually be GBytes/s and also only showing one channel. At least, that's how it looks and what other people think after running Aida64 memory benchmark and watching HWiNFO64.
      Okay, anyways... on my 3600 + RX480 8GB + 2x8GB single rank/dual channel, I rarely saw games make that average over "2 Gbps" DRAM Read Bandwidth. The write bandwidth was always significantly lower.
      The game that stood out on that set up was Halo Infinite, it averaged 8 Gbps read and 2 Gbps write.
      Now I have a 5900x + 6700xt + 2x16GB dual rank/dual channel. I can now use SAM. Now I'm always seeing much higher readings for DRAM read/write. I.. just found this interesting. Not sure if it has to do with SAM or just this set up along with the extra frames per second. Plus some games just have higher readings than others.
      Do you or anyone else reading this ever pay attention to that? It might be interesting to note when comparing RAM configurations while gaming. Especially in games that tend to push it higher on average. Halo Infinite is probably the one that pushes it the highest that I've noticed. I think it's closer to 20 Gbps read average on my current set up in Halo.. but I wish I had taken notes before seeing this and commenting lol.

    • @NVMDSTEvil
      @NVMDSTEvil Před 2 lety +1

      @@JustAGuy85 2 ranks per channel is the optimal configuration for ryzen memory controllers. Single rank per channel limits the memory controller and results in higher latency and reduced bandwidth.

    • @mortal1501
      @mortal1501 Před 2 lety

      I have 2 x 32gb of ram a total of 64gb of ram. I also have a i9 11900K processor

  • @nutella6388
    @nutella6388 Před 2 lety +365

    Wow, I saw a lot of videos comparing between ram channels but you actually went into the technical details behind it, Next level stuff right there 👏

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +17

      Thank you 💪💪

    • @skylardatguy2906
      @skylardatguy2906 Před rokem +3

      He literally failed to mention the impact of ram speed/timings or mention which ram kits he used or what speeds he ran them at. All of those variables can affect fps

    • @andrewpapadakis1307
      @andrewpapadakis1307 Před rokem +10

      @@skylardatguy2906 its in the bottom left of the screen the entire video 3200 CL16

    • @ibezlionheart5965
      @ibezlionheart5965 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@andrewpapadakis1307 I think it was the problem, almost of AM4 mobo support 3200/3000 "if only 2 ram installed", if 4 installed it was limited to 2666 CMIIW 🤔

  • @NoLuv4Hoz
    @NoLuv4Hoz Před rokem +22

    Nice job with the explanations. This actually answered a lot of questions which I had. Thank you!

  • @elheber
    @elheber Před 2 lety +610

    I'm interested in how this would compare in gaming with integrated graphics since there is no GPU VRAM and the games would rely only on regular RAM.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +200

      In terms of integrated graphics the difference would be massive

    • @leothehuman_9476
      @leothehuman_9476 Před 2 lety +26

      @@AncientGameplays I was thinking about getting a ryzen 5 5600g without a dedicated GPU, 4x4 should be a better option than 2x8 right? I'm not going to get a dedicated GPU soon since I don't game.

    • @mike-jh6md
      @mike-jh6md Před 2 lety +4

      @@leothehuman_9476 what are you using this pc for bro?

    • @notoriousbig3k
      @notoriousbig3k Před 2 lety +8

      @@mike-jh6md the daily tasks i presume

    • @Kue7heh
      @Kue7heh Před rokem +9

      @@notoriousbig3k you dont need 6 core cpu for daily tasks

  • @JayzBeerz
    @JayzBeerz Před 2 lety +12

    I love this series you do with RAM scaling. Keep it up bro.

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer Před rokem +259

    Using four sticks of ram on a dual-channel system is slightly slower because it takes time for the memory controller to address the sticks separately. Each stick of ram on a given channel uses the same data lines, and the only way the sticks know which one is being talked to is that the memory controller addresses them independently. With only one stick per ram channel, this is unnecessary, and so things are very slightly faster. Of course, the results depend on more than just the ram configuration, hence the variable results you got.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem +42

      It is a bit slower but works as dual rank, which mitigates that

    • @MaPf818
      @MaPf818 Před rokem +4

      Regardless whether 2 sticks or 2 ranks or 1 stick, the individual addressing is necessary (e.g. address line vs CS) -> no real difference here.

    • @MaPf818
      @MaPf818 Před rokem +2

      @@comfy_rwds 2 channel only.

    • @Game_Sport_and_Fun
      @Game_Sport_and_Fun Před rokem

      Really ? czcams.com/video/dhMYmEu8gks/video.html

    • @choyski6255
      @choyski6255 Před rokem +3

      Four sticks should be on a quad-channel system. If these 4 sticks of ram are configured to a different channel system, it will have stability and compatibility issues . Four sticks of ram on a quad-channel system will run without any issues and it's faster than 1 stick and 2 stick of rams configured on single and dual channel system respectively but it requires an expensive motherboard. Because the more sticks of ram, the more memory bandwith you have and this leads to a lower cpu consumption by 10%-20%

  • @40fpsbenchmarks54
    @40fpsbenchmarks54 Před 2 lety +1

    Killin it with these. Great video!!! 👌👌

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon8320 Před 2 lety +31

    Thanks for this well done - informative video. Having a "Matched" ram kit is important for "Overclocking" ram- running at the XMP Profile. A matched ram kit has been tested to run at the rated XMP profile for that memory.

  • @luisfelipejahn1281
    @luisfelipejahn1281 Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks for the straight to the point and clean info!

  • @xlrrockmusic
    @xlrrockmusic Před 6 měsíci +10

    Finally someone who explained this and showed actual results

  • @user-ul8vp8cl6w
    @user-ul8vp8cl6w Před rokem +2

    Thanks for sharing! This video helped me a lot

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta Před 7 měsíci +1

    what a great and through explanation. Great vid

  • @heiligesblechel
    @heiligesblechel Před rokem +20

    The benchmarks clearly show that it doesn't really matter for games whether it's dual channel or single channel.
    For loading times for games or programs, however, this can be more important.

    • @brohvakiindova4452
      @brohvakiindova4452 Před rokem +5

      The issue I have with these benchmarks is, they always take the same tripple A benchmark games that mostly only make sense regarding GPU.
      After 10 games that show the GPU bottleneck in these games is severe, maybe one could consider looking for games that are specifically ram and/or CPU intensive.
      I personally only have seen significant difference in ram usage in Anno 1800 where the game ate nearly 18 gigs of ram after I upgraded to 32gb, before that it was limited to ~12gb with 16gb ram iirc.
      After watching a lot of hardware videos my observation is that generally ram has extremely minimalistic effect on performance unless you completely cheap out or buy the most expensive stuff.
      A decent 32gb kit will be ~100€ and perform almost identical to a 200€ one and even a 60€ 16gb kit will hold up fine for most games.
      On the loading times - mehh I doubt there will be any noticeable difference loading a game unless you literally run it as a ram disk, haven't found any good examples for ram size/speed and measurable loading time improvements for games outside that. I'd say direct storage will be the next big thing and hopefully can be applied on older games too some day.

  • @kenchong69
    @kenchong69 Před rokem +8

    This is a helpful video. I got my system in 2018 with 2x8GB TridentZ. I'm just gonna get the same pair to make it 4x8

  • @arsenalfanrichi
    @arsenalfanrichi Před rokem +2

    Such a simple premise for a video, but something that is kinda glossed over so often. Thanks for the content.

  • @faimran3674
    @faimran3674 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Okay, Morbius!! Thanks for the info!! Great video!!

  • @hristiqndimitrov5249
    @hristiqndimitrov5249 Před rokem +3

    Great work in this video the most detailed video I've seen

  • @peterpan408
    @peterpan408 Před 2 lety +16

    Clearly 2x16GB or 4x8GB is the right answer.
    Also the single channel vs dual channel memory matters more for APU.
    Using an APU with single channel memory is like running on one leg.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +2

      Obviously due to the iGPU yeah

    • @AlienInSider
      @AlienInSider Před 2 lety

      @@AncientGameplays
      Two years ago we talked to you about your first music video. And I, like my colleague here, wrote that at APU these differences are greater and are in favor of the 4x4 single rank. I had also asked you to do a test with APU using the same method
      Here, a large part of the test is limited by the video card, but at 1080p the difference is visible.
      I'm already on 4x8 dual rank and the difference isn't much bigger than 4x4 but it's still there

    • @psychoalert1823
      @psychoalert1823 Před 2 lety +1

      4x8 is not good. 4 modules stress the imc too much. For high speed xmps or oc it's a no no. 2xAnything dual rank is the best.

    • @peterpan408
      @peterpan408 Před 2 lety

      @@psychoalert1823 If your system exposes the memory bottleneck, then the reduced OC/tuning potential matters.
      More likely is that eliminating the single channel bottleneck exposes the next rate limiting element.
      If you have a GPU that can outpace mainstream CPU, then memory optimization becomes relevant.
      However if you have a mainstream GPU, then eliminating the single channel bottleneck has likely made your CPU/Memory fast enough to feed the GPU and the speed cannot be further enhanced.

  • @neel_ghodasara
    @neel_ghodasara Před rokem +1

    very well explained. kudos to you brother

  • @Vusha100
    @Vusha100 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. I actually learned a thing or two. Thanks

  • @extremelypuppy
    @extremelypuppy Před 2 lety +11

    Great video, im glad others can learn something from all this.

  • @cool_cat007smoove3
    @cool_cat007smoove3 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Nice video. If a game has to render a large world, then a dual or quad channel is best. It also depends the optimize of the game. There are too many variables.

  • @user-mx5we1li2l
    @user-mx5we1li2l Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent informative VDO!

  • @ramonzeira
    @ramonzeira Před rokem +1

    Exactly what I was looking for..Thanks.

  • @coldwater8108
    @coldwater8108 Před 2 lety +48

    God this is one of the best and informational youtube channels out there

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for your kind words!

    • @Top3Entertainment
      @Top3Entertainment Před 2 lety +1

      Fabio is the best

    • @pauldelange919
      @pauldelange919 Před 2 lety +2

      He is really smart and very informative... his benchmarks are really good. I do benchmarks myself and also watch other benchmarks and his findings is most inline with my own findings...

  • @bobbymoss6160
    @bobbymoss6160 Před 2 lety +23

    Good video. I'm currently running 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600 C16. Customer reviews says these are dual rank, but CPU-Z tells me they're actually single rank. Not that it matters to me, they run fine with XMP 2.0 and everything's smooth, so I'm happy.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah, there are no 8GB sticks being dual rank (not that I know of). Enjoy your kit!

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Před rokem

      @@AncientGameplays Cpu-Z says that my G. Skill F4-2400C15-8GVR is dual. Each stick is 8GB.

    • @Iconic11111
      @Iconic11111 Před rokem

      @@AncientGameplays do you mean 8x2 cant be dual channel !!!

    • @technojazz6955
      @technojazz6955 Před rokem +9

      If your motherboard had 4 RAM slots. Maybe you put RAM at wrong slots, which disable dual channel feature

    • @eniff2925
      @eniff2925 Před rokem

      @@AncientGameplays I have dual rank 2x8GB DDR3 Kingston Hyperx Beast.

  • @re.liable
    @re.liable Před rokem +1

    I love the amount of info you showed in this vid. Cheers!

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem

      Thank you, you may like some of my other videos as well 💪💪

  • @MrModaman
    @MrModaman Před rokem +5

    I just built a gaming PC using a Xeon with triple channel ram. 24 gb @ 6 x 4 gb. Pretty good results compared with typical dual channel.

  • @Ph42oN
    @Ph42oN Před 2 lety +59

    I see 5600x is a lot less affected by ram than 1600x, when i bought 1600x i got faulty ram stick so i first tested it in single channel and there was actually huge gains from going to dual channel, it was more like 30-50% gains.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +8

      Nah, it was closer to 25% perf drop. Also a single 8gb ram stick would be fairly slower

    • @Benman2785
      @Benman2785 Před 2 lety +3

      thats because your 8G stick was SINGLE RANK using SINGLE CHANNEL ;)

    • @Ph42oN
      @Ph42oN Před rokem +1

      Part of this was propably because when faulty stick was in, ram refused to run at 3200 so it was 2400 single channel vs 3200 dual channel.

  • @youham7066
    @youham7066 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is the best video in explaining about ram performance!!!

  • @ultimategames9709
    @ultimategames9709 Před rokem +8

    Well, time to put 4x32gb

  • @jeremynorris_hostyl1
    @jeremynorris_hostyl1 Před 2 lety +12

    Well, I'm glad you decided to re-do this because I never saw the other one. So here's a like and a comment for the algorithm.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you, CZcams didn't really like that video don't know why

  • @flaminggasolineinthedarkne4

    Very informative video about ram configuration channels and performance difference.

  • @delargeo930
    @delargeo930 Před 2 lety +1

    nice video! thanks for the detailed info, now I'm seriously considering another 16gb stick

  • @Pedro-S1lva
    @Pedro-S1lva Před rokem +5

    otimo video mano,tava na duvida e agora decidi fazer o dual channel mesmo

  • @kenshirogenjuro873
    @kenshirogenjuro873 Před 2 lety +4

    Nice video!
    Heads up...if you haven't tried it yet, you can often use the suction of a vacuum cleaner to pop the dustcaps of your woofers back to normal ;-)

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +3

      Always saying i will do it sooner or later, bjt i never do haha

    • @YudaHnK
      @YudaHnK Před 2 měsíci +2

      I can confirm your tip works, did it a year ago on som old Dynaudio speakers my kid had tortured.
      Good as new nao with a vacuum :)

    • @kenshirogenjuro873
      @kenshirogenjuro873 Před 2 měsíci

      @@YudaHnK Dynaudio…excellent choice

  • @MandaloreTheSilent
    @MandaloreTheSilent Před rokem +1

    Love the accent bro. Also you make the video edits easy to read for us. Thank you.

  • @TheThugzman
    @TheThugzman Před rokem +1

    A new happy subscriber , great content

  • @Riborwahz
    @Riborwahz Před rokem +3

    This CZcamsr is much more detail than linus I'm really comfortable with his teaching

  • @LoRdLoSs-yr8nd
    @LoRdLoSs-yr8nd Před rokem +15

    Not sure if increasing the resolution of the games being tested will affect the use of RAM very much, resolution increases are usually limited by the amount of VRAM your GPU has. I see that a lot of your 4k benchmarks are being limited by other factors other than RAM speed (most likely the GPU).
    If you used a dedicated memory benchmark tool, you might have more clear results on the differences under heavier memory specific workloads.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem +7

      It wont, it will affect VRAM, but lower and higher fps need more bandwidth, hence the several resolutions

  • @ridge938
    @ridge938 Před 2 lety +1

    Thx for the Video, it helped me at a big decision

  • @TONY_CHOPPER94
    @TONY_CHOPPER94 Před rokem +1

    i like on csgo part when laughing hahahaha funny, thanks man. awesome video as always! love from indonesia

  • @LeoMajor1
    @LeoMajor1 Před 2 lety +10

    Keep at it man. With a little better video editing (less repeating same things) you should be an awesome tech channel to follow!

  • @DWo2210
    @DWo2210 Před 2 lety +18

    I would like to see if there is still a difference to 4xDualRanked Modules like the difference between 4 Sticks SingleRanked vs 4 Sticks Dualranked. Is there any benefit of 8 Ranks instead of 4?

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +2

      Sincerely i belive there is, but don't know as I never tested

    • @DWo2210
      @DWo2210 Před 2 lety +2

      Maybe that’s an idea for an additional video on the topic ;)

    • @Jacob_Overby
      @Jacob_Overby Před 2 lety +1

      This would be a great one

    • @HenrikHvalpen
      @HenrikHvalpen Před 2 lety +2

      Always wondered the same when I had to build my pc. I looked for 4x single rank 8gb but they were hard to find and expensive.
      I instead bought 4x 8gb dual rank. They couldn't run 3200 MHz as they were rated to. But when removing 2 sticks they could.
      I sold them bought 2x 16gb dual rank 3200 MHz and overclocked them to 3800 MHz
      I really want to know if I was went with 4x single rank if I have had a better experience.

    • @NVMDSTEvil
      @NVMDSTEvil Před 2 lety +2

      No, there is no difference between 2x dual rank vs 4x dual rank, the memory controller cannot address more than 2 ranks per channel and the extra ranks cause more signal interference on the traces which result in requiring higher tertiary timings and/or lower clock speed to be stable. The optimal configuration is 1 dual rank memory module per channel.

  • @Maverick_1887
    @Maverick_1887 Před rokem +1

    Nice explanation... Keep it up Fabio 👍

  • @hadifelani
    @hadifelani Před rokem +1

    Very on point with the conclusion 👌

  • @Jwalker76
    @Jwalker76 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you YT for showing me another AG video 4 days later. Interesting video, I didn't realize 16gb ddr4 were dual rank. Which I'm pleased to hear as I have 2x 16gb 3200 cl16 sticks. I was a little bit worried they be single rank even though I bought them in 2020. Got to say I'm happy that AMD Ryzen has given us more options like the 5600 non x, amazing how things can change with some competition. I can tell you are very much behind AMD, not saying you are a fan boy as you do point out where they fail. After buying Intel and having intel problems with my system an average person would stand no chance to fix themselves. I'm starting to wish I had paid the little bit extra for a 5600x over a 11400f.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety

      Humm, what problems do you have? I have several Intel CPUs as well, 10100F, 10400F, 11400F, 12600K

    • @Jwalker76
      @Jwalker76 Před 2 lety +1

      @@AncientGameplays I installed cinebench to discover my CPU was throttling at about 70C. Was using hwmonitor and thought maybe it was stopping at exactly 70C but I was able overtime to push the CPU a little bit higher. Turned out my CPU was limited to 65w which wasn't clear from hwmonitor. I only discovered that by a YT video tipping me off about the program XTU. But then you need to know what settings to change and they don't label which string is pl1 and pl2. The bios was a maze too with even more settings. I have a b560m auris pro ax mb. Managed to work out that I can set pl1 to 125watt. I've got a hyper 212x cooler too. I don't know about pl2 I left it stock at 154w. At least it stopped throttling. I will say, it wasn't temperature throttling too at any point.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jwalker76 Yeah, if your board is a bit lower end those CPUs will be limited in terms of power draw. MSI boards unlocked it almost automatically though

    • @Richard-tj1yh
      @Richard-tj1yh Před 2 lety

      It's a motherboard problem not an intel problem 😅

    • @Jwalker76
      @Jwalker76 Před 2 lety

      @@Richard-tj1yh Yeah I've just been annoyed about it throttling for the sake of the fact that it's not Intel high performance CPU and motherboard. The reality is it was going to cost me roughly an extra 50 USD just to get a 3600 at the time (this was pre 12th gen). Let alone the cost of a 5600x was more than an extra 100 dollars on top of the price of a 3600.

  • @victorlima6113
    @victorlima6113 Před 6 měsíci +12

    Really cool that you didn't only compare it but made an entire educational video about it. Pretty nice content

  • @panagiotisandrikopoulos6853

    very useful video 👍

  • @Rednek89
    @Rednek89 Před rokem +1

    Finally something i really looking for. Thanks Ancient Gameplays 🙌

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza Před rokem +6

    You mentioned leaving two slots free for a future upgrade, but is that a good idea? I'd always heard all the RAM in your system should be as identical as possible, down to a similar manufacturing date, to avoid any stability issues.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem +10

      As long as rhe main timings and frequencies are the same it will be fine. In early days, maybe 10 years ago, that may have been a problem. Not anymore in 99% of cases

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani Před rokem

      It really depends on your use case. It sure is a good plan at least in my case, that's what I did back in 2018. I also personally think that it's the safest bet in most cases.
      Buying 2x8 first, then in around 2020 I bought another exact same pair, ramping up the capacity to 32gb.
      But since I have been a modded Cities Skylines player for almost 4 years, at this point I'm just going to appreciate the most capacity I could get. I also plan to swap my 6600 XT for either 6700XT or 6800XT because I need that extra VRAM.
      Getting a 2x16 twice and selling my two pair or 2x8 is another plan of mine.

    • @Pegasvs
      @Pegasvs Před rokem +3

      @@AncientGameplays I have 8 sticks of ddr3 ram from 10 years ago in my setup, 4 of them are the exact same corsair 4gb ram modules, and the rest are random 4gb and 8gb sticks I found around my house, overclocked to 1866mhz, and even in this worst case scenario I have no issues

    • @ProcessedDigitally
      @ProcessedDigitally Před rokem

      @@Pegasvs interesting

  • @A_Chocolate_Cookie
    @A_Chocolate_Cookie Před rokem +4

    I'm building my first pc and went for 4x4gb
    It was slightly cheaper than 2x8gb
    Only found this video after the fact, but I'm happy to know that it performs basically the same

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani Před rokem

      But having 4x4 is limiting your upgrade options if you ever needed more capacity. Since once you upgrade them into the bigger one, you won't use your previous sticks anymore.
      2x8 is the best bet. Still have the room for upgrades if you ever needed to ramp up the capacity to 32gb while still using the previous one.

    • @lalotz
      @lalotz Před rokem +2

      @@hadifelani
      Wrong. This guy doesn't know what's he is talking about.
      4 channels (sticks) is better for a workstation.
      When you run a single game the computer interprets it as 1 application. Plus, games don't need a lot of Ram🐏 just look at the ps5 (1stick-16gb) and xbox.
      Having 4 channels would be beneficial of you are running chrome, streaming software, trade broker software, discord, CZcams news, background applications all at the same time.
      The CPU cores/threads will prioritize Ram channels for all those applications so they don't lag.
      Let's say you are running 6 applications on your computer.
      If you can have 2 sticks you will load 3 applications to each stick VS 4 sticks those 6 applications will distribute depending on the load. This allows for better lentacy speeds.
      If you are a content creator and run heavy software that needs a lot of Ram 🐏, then 4x16gb will do great, but if not then 4x8gb is the way to go.
      But if you only run p0&nhub 2x8gb is too much.

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani Před rokem +1

      @@lalotz my guy, I'm solely talking about capacity. Nobody talks about channels.
      Everyone knows that almost all mainstream boards have dual channel, regardless of whether it has 2 or 4 of memory slots.
      You're completely missing the point 😪

    • @lalotz
      @lalotz Před rokem

      @@hadifelani my lady, you know what it was, i came from a different video which explains my comment.
      Any who now you know.

  • @F2Ptaxi
    @F2Ptaxi Před 2 lety +1

    Today i learn more. Thank you mr. Fabio

  • @hanzwer
    @hanzwer Před měsícem +1

    nice explanation

  • @juand.g.2602
    @juand.g.2602 Před 2 lety +5

    For some reason 1 8gb stick works better than 2x4gb on my low end pc.
    Thanks for this video

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +6

      That impossible if they are at the same frequency and timings. I believe your 2x4gb config isnt stable

    • @kaseyboles30
      @kaseyboles30 Před 2 lety +3

      @@AncientGameplays Or has lousy 2ndary/tertiary timings, especially on AMD, though this isn't as bad on 2nd and 3rd gen as 1st. It's also possible he's running sticks that sit on the edge of 1:1 ratio such that the single stick is o.k. at 1:1 where the dual sticks stress the memory controller just enough to drop it to 1:2 ratio. 3800 or 4000 mt/s might do it depending on cpu.

  • @nimeni86
    @nimeni86 Před rokem +4

    My x470 mobo just crapped out on me, the A1 and A2 channels are dead. Now I have my dual channel sticks on B1 and B2, both running single channel. Not sure if I should replace my mobo or continue single. But after watching this video, I can see there's not much of a difference.

  • @danlwst
    @danlwst Před rokem +1

    I'm loving the sound effects

  • @moss8448
    @moss8448 Před rokem +1

    looks like dual is the way to go for most stuff, single GPU, Dual Lane RAM along with a decent CPU. Good post and keep em comin

  • @yourma-uh5um
    @yourma-uh5um Před rokem +20

    With AM4 Ryzen CPUs, they used a 256bit memory interface that was split into two 128bit channels and each channel supporting two 64bit ranks.
    From what I briefly learned when choosing my memory configuration, depending on what motherboard (specifically the memory tracer layout) is used and what you wanted to do with your memory determined what the best configuration of memory you should have. From what I remember, Parallel/T-topology boards tracers split before reaching the pins in the memory slots which allows each slot to be equal distances from the memory controller on the CPU, allowing for more stable system when using all of the available memory slots for more memory capacity. Series/daisy chained boards on the other hand are wired directly to one memory slot which then is sequentially linked to the next DIMM slot, essentially queuing the second DIMM slot behind the first (hence daisy chained), I don't know if this has any benefits regarding frequency performance, but it must do something otherwise all motherboards would be T-topology.
    Depending on what you want to do, the memory configuration should look a little something like this:
    Overclock for world records = 1 x Single Rank memory module (memory tracer layout probably not important with so few ranks).
    Overclocking = Daisy chained and use 2 x Single Rank memory modules (slightly less performance than using four ranks, more than made up for with overclocking though).
    Non-overclocking your memory = Daisy chained and use 2 x Dual Rank memory modules.
    Non-overclocking your memory + option to increase memory capacity at later date = T-topology motherboard with 2 x Single Rank memory modules (two more at later date brings rank count up to four, increasing performance).
    Max memory capacity = T-topology and use 4 x Dual Rank memory modules (eight ranks equals lower memory speed to improve stability, T-topology layout negates some of the stability issues with four dual rank DIMMs).
    With all that said, we're moving on to DDR5 memory which has shook things up with how memory channels and ranks are laid out and I've not looked into as I have no intention of replacing my system any time soon. Not to mention there is also the X3D variants of CPUs which make high speed memory less important.

  • @father3863
    @father3863 Před rokem +4

    My conclusion is, get whichever is CHEAPER, they seems have no difference to me. in 1080p, the fps is too high to notice that 2 or 3 fps difference, and in 4k everything is bottlenecked by the GPU.
    If there is no price difference, get the 16gb one for future update.

  • @pubgsuzu
    @pubgsuzu Před 6 měsíci +1

    Good way to understand ❤

  • @MMD157
    @MMD157 Před rokem +2

    Não conhecia esse conceito de Single e Dual Rank, obrigado pelo ensinamento e ainda bem que as minhas 2x8GB HyperX Fury são Single Rank!

    • @OnlyMarcoS1
      @OnlyMarcoS1 Před rokem

      Mas todas as memórias são single po

  • @PixelByte
    @PixelByte Před 2 lety +3

    Hello BROOOOOOO nice video mate!!!!!!can you test quad channel?on extreme sockets x299 or x399 amd!!! thanks mate

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +1

      I could, If I had some haha

    • @daddyalpha2648
      @daddyalpha2648 Před 2 lety

      I have x99 system and there are plenty of videos out there with the quad channel benefit. In short it destroys zen3

    • @PixelByte
      @PixelByte Před 2 lety

      @@daddyalpha2648 my previous socket is X99 with 6950X and ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTREME now i have the ASUS RAMPAGE VI EXTREME im on X299

    • @daddyalpha2648
      @daddyalpha2648 Před 2 lety

      @@PixelByte and is there a difference? How much % is it better?

    • @PixelByte
      @PixelByte Před 2 lety

      @@daddyalpha2648 same fps on games but on ram more bandwith and more read write on aida 64

  • @CantTreadOnMe
    @CantTreadOnMe Před 2 lety +110

    2 x 16 is my preference. 16 gb is enough for most games especially on 1080p but why limit yourself in some games like Doom for example (not best example but 😆) & heavy modding in games. Also maybe you'd like to stream and record etc in future so for me 32 gb makes most sense and gives plenty of headroom. Maybe an extra $100 but worth it in my opinion.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +54

      You could give many examples, but doom?

    • @justinkaiserleif.infante7889
      @justinkaiserleif.infante7889 Před rokem +15

      then you should upgrade your gpu instead. VRAM >>>> RAM

    • @Fogolol
      @Fogolol Před rokem +19

      you live in a different world my friend, 8 GB should be enough for most games unless you wanna play in dx 12 (games in dx12 mode eat all of my ram) i do have 4 slots so i could upgrade sometime soon as 8 GB is NOT enough for heavily modded gaming

    • @EverPaintP
      @EverPaintP Před rokem +12

      @@AncientGameplays I'm an indie unity dev. I use to use up to 48-52GB when building my game or testing it in several instances at the same time.

    • @brykanst9071
      @brykanst9071 Před rokem +14

      @@Fogolol i am not sure i have played a modern game in years that suggest less then 16 for the minimum specs and windows itself probably doesn't like it either... will always do 32gb min in a build now days

  • @davidjones7144
    @davidjones7144 Před 2 lety +2

    I see a slight gap in-between the rows of your benchmark results, I like it. I think I suggested it earlier this week even...

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeap, I completely redesigned the charts due to that, and it looks way better :D
      Thanks

  • @Prajwal____
    @Prajwal____ Před rokem +1

    Thank You mentioning the thumbnail artist, He is my favourite artist!

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem

      i didn't know, but someone told me about him so I put his name there :D

  • @NatInTheHat49
    @NatInTheHat49 Před rokem +3

    Here I am using 8x 4gb at 2400mhz gotta love these old server boards

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem +1

      If that's DDR3, awesome, if DDR4 not really xD

    • @NatInTheHat49
      @NatInTheHat49 Před rokem +1

      @@AncientGameplays it's ddr4 but hey at least it's ecc I'll change to 8gb sticks eventually

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem

      @@NatInTheHat49 I would just overclock them, even if I had to loosen the timings a bit

  • @uazzdreem1359
    @uazzdreem1359 Před 2 lety +22

    Хорошо продемонстрировал и тщательно разжевал.
    Хотелось бы продолжения. Для максимального раскрытия этой темы. А именно: протестировать 1х16GB, 2х16GB и 4х16GB. Тогда мы получим полную картину по двух ранговым модулям оперативной памяти. И какая в трех случаях будет разница производительности.
    - -
    Well demonstrated and thoroughly chewed.
    I would like to continue. For maximum disclosure of this topic. Namely: test 1x16GB, 2x16GB and 4x16GB. Then we will get a complete picture of the two-rank RAM modules. And what will be the difference in performance in three cases.

    • @user-nz8ie4so2l
      @user-nz8ie4so2l Před rokem

      Тоже интересно стало

    • @Qwertoni
      @Qwertoni Před rokem

      почему в ксго дуал и квад равны?

    • @uazzdreem1359
      @uazzdreem1359 Před rokem

      @@Qwertoni Я больше чем уверен, у разработчиков есть ответ. И у тех, кто разбирается в таких технических тонкостях

  • @coolbreeze7132
    @coolbreeze7132 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Was tryna figure out to get the same set of ram do have 4x8 or sell mine and get 2x16 but really no difference. Thanks for the video!

  • @martoafro
    @martoafro Před 6 dny +1

    this is an impressively well made video

  • @TimLongson
    @TimLongson Před 2 lety +7

    Very interesting video thank you. I would be interested in a similar test with DDR5, scaled up to 32GB, so 1X 32GB vs 2X 16GB vs 4x 8GB DDR5.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +7

      Yeap, as soon as I get my ZEN4 and RDNA3 build :D

    • @Durkhead
      @Durkhead Před 2 lety +2

      I heard that somehow ddr5 will run dual channel on 1 stick 🤔

    • @TimLongson
      @TimLongson Před 2 lety

      @@AncientGameplays looking forward to it. Thank you! :)

  • @mrjangles1263
    @mrjangles1263 Před 2 lety +3

    your 5600x build is almost identical to one of my computers that I built, the only difference being is that i have a 6700xt rather than 6800xt

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety

      I have the non-XT 6800 btw :D

    • @mrjangles1263
      @mrjangles1263 Před 2 lety +1

      @@AncientGameplays I scored a 9812 on Superposition at 4k and it's posted with my real first name. Have you benchmarked yours there too? If you type 6700 in the search you will see mine

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +1

      @@mrjangles1263 I didn't since I am not much of synthetic benchmarks haha

  • @MerchAlts
    @MerchAlts Před rokem +1

    Nice!!!

  • @rumahniat
    @rumahniat Před měsícem

    Differences doesnt much, thank bro for the information

  • @HideNameMe
    @HideNameMe Před rokem +4

    2x8gb is great if u want to upgrade to 32gb just buy 2 more

  • @MMoonYT
    @MMoonYT Před rokem +103

    2x8gb better

    • @rohaanqureshi3725
      @rohaanqureshi3725 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah but im just here because i just wanna see the difference

    • @arkapravaroy7284
      @arkapravaroy7284 Před 2 měsíci +14

      Nah 2x 16 gb better

    • @aimankhairulnizam7591
      @aimankhairulnizam7591 Před měsícem

      Damn bro, what kind of game need to use 32 gb?​@@arkapravaroy7284

    • @Rx-Football-
      @Rx-Football- Před měsícem

      He means that 2x8 is better than 1x16 or 4x4 and yeah he is right dual channel is the best option ​@@arkapravaroy7284

    • @mirakus_
      @mirakus_ Před měsícem

      nah thats overkill​@@arkapravaroy7284

  • @machado5765
    @machado5765 Před 2 lety +2

    Dando a volta no algoritmo requentando conteúdo. Que Tuga malandro.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +3

      É a primeira vez (e provavelmente a última) que faço isto em mais de 5 anos de canal, e bem, só as hotas que gastei a melhorar este video dava para ter feito um de raiz. A única coisa aproveitada aqui foi de facto os dados, de resto foi tudo novo

  • @eziothemasterassassin4765

    thank you it was a very Useful video especially for me since I'm using an APU

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +1

      Since you're using an APU the difference in between Single and DUal channel is around 40% which is A LOT

    • @eziothemasterassassin4765
      @eziothemasterassassin4765 Před 2 lety

      @@AncientGameplays and I'm using Duel channel, planning to upgrade from 8GB 4x2 to 16GB 8x2 when I get the money

  • @antonisautos8704
    @antonisautos8704 Před rokem +4

    1x16 vs 2x16 vs 4x16... curious to see how that effects 1% lows

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 Před 2 lety +5

    It doesn't seem to matter significantly. Perhaps memory controllers now days are alot better than in the past.

  • @Mopantsu
    @Mopantsu Před 2 lety +1

    Did not know about the 16GB memory sticks. Thanks for pointing this out.

  • @pwinceee1362
    @pwinceee1362 Před rokem +1

    so much details wow xD

  • @Geo_SPG
    @Geo_SPG Před rokem +5

    Bro', i am using 4 x 4gb ddr3 in 2023 😅😅😅 I have i7 4790, Sapphire Nitro+ rx 480 8gb, and 4 x 4gb ram ... I am going to use this system until the day he explodes! 😅😅😅

  • @pedrobastos7383
    @pedrobastos7383 Před 2 lety +3

    I use 4x4gb no problem with that. maybe im poor. Achas k agora vou gastar uma pipa de massa só para ter 2x8gb" mesmo" . ò Fabio este video é bom para quem vai montar um novo set. agora para quem por exemplo tem como eu quatro slots de 4gb desde 2019 sem nenhum problema. nao faz sentido trocar so por trocar.
    Abraço

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +1

      Viva, eu próprio falo que não faz sentido para quem já tem, até porque tinha de vender o kit anterior ou meter dinheiro ao lixo e não faz sentido. Mas imagine que agora querias colocar 32GB? Estás em desvantagem por não teres comprado 2x8GB em vez de 4x4Gb. E bem, eu não consideraria €60 uma "pipa de massa"...

    • @pedrobastos7383
      @pedrobastos7383 Před 2 lety +1

      @@AncientGameplays O que tu dizes acerca de trocar por mais ram "32gb". ai faz todo o sentido. mas 60€ se é muito ou pouco ai vais ter que concordar que já vai depender de cada carteira. Abraço amigo

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety

      @@pedrobastos7383 Concordo perfeitamente, mas mesmo falando em relação ao ordenado mínimo é menos de 10%. Eu penso sempre por aí

  • @portalarlequin2023
    @portalarlequin2023 Před rokem +1

    nice video for Gamer Jesus!. I suscribe!.

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před rokem

      Thanks! Lay an eye on my comment section, I think you'll enjoy it!

  • @suhaimiss7322
    @suhaimiss7322 Před 2 lety +1

    how about next video, you test with productivity software with this three configurations. BTW, love the video & explanation. Thank you..

    • @AncientGameplays
      @AncientGameplays  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you man! For now I won't, but maybe in a close future!

  • @DonzLockz
    @DonzLockz Před 2 měsíci +3

    Is this Jesus Gaming?😂👍

  • @kumiwanakilya00
    @kumiwanakilya00 Před 8 měsíci +1

    damn I am surprised at how little the difference is between the 3 different configurations! i could have stuck with just 2x16gb after all! but for the extra RGB that comes with 4x8 i guess i'm ok with it lol thanks for the video

  • @vannhantran547
    @vannhantran547 Před rokem +1

    Great comparison

  • @ProcessedDigitally
    @ProcessedDigitally Před rokem +1

    congrats on 100K

  • @MorgothCreator
    @MorgothCreator Před rokem +1

    Multichannel and multi rank RAM configurations are helpful when you run RAM intensive applications or have lot more cores that fight for getting instructions and data, games uses about 4 cores and are not RAM intensive even when is transferring data to GPU because PCI Express BUS is lot slower than the RAM speed, maybe if the transferred data is compressed can match out the RAM.

  • @10p6
    @10p6 Před 11 měsíci +2

    hmm, maybe I should do a benchmark video of my twin Xeons with 8 channels total and 1TB Ram.

  • @sannyassi73
    @sannyassi73 Před měsícem

    I had a 4x4 setup a while back, but I needed capacity more so I now have 4x8- same speed but the timing isn't as good, which is pretty regular when going with higher density. When I was doing a bunch of firestrike benchmarking the 4x4 got me up to the number 2 (maybe 3rd? not sure) CPU spot for a 4790k/5700xt combo and 73rd overall. I tested 3 different sets of memory mixed with different CPU clock speeds to get those results. I wish I had the time to do more of that stuff, it's fun to tinker! I suspect I could have gotten 1st if it hadn't been my primary PC, I just didn't want to take the chance of frying my rig. The 4x4 was definitely fastest, though the differences in real world stuff isn't noticeable.

  • @neonlux4155
    @neonlux4155 Před rokem +1

    This is exactly what I needed also what game is in the thumbnail?

  • @Chelseakafan
    @Chelseakafan Před rokem

    Hey, i don't have much technical knowledge. How do i know if a laptop has 16b of single channel or 16gb of double channel? Because these things aren't mentioned on Amazon..

  • @fulgerion
    @fulgerion Před rokem +1

    I am curious about the times between frames. I felt that there was a noticeable reduction in frame times with a capacity upgrade with the same RAM going from 2 sticks, to 4 sticks.

  • @KadiusFTW
    @KadiusFTW Před rokem

    I understand that this is tested on a desktop platform, but I run quad channel ram on my 1660v3 system and was wondering if you could do a similar test with it? cpu is realatively cheap at 70ish usd, mobo about the same, and 4x4gb ddr4 is cheap too.

  • @Fild20
    @Fild20 Před rokem +1

    Hey which program did you use for showing data on screen? It's kind of different from Rivatuner

  • @sporadicentertainment9253
    @sporadicentertainment9253 Před 8 měsíci +1

    G Skill Trident Z Neo RGB cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb single rank sticks dual channel overclocked to cl14 3800mhz with the timings tightened to the fullest fully stable lead to major increase in FPS performance.

  • @El_Titoo
    @El_Titoo Před rokem

    I wanna your opinion dude should i go for 4x16 ddr5 6600Mhz or would it be better to go for 2x32 ddr5 5200Mhz knowing that both are from corsair and the same price?