We need reparations and the only way to do that is stop buying frivolously and stop joining the military. Nothing will really change without Blacks citizens uniting on those two fronts.
@@brettcarve9432 so everyone needs to go back to Asia, Europe, Africa, and leave the Americas to the original inhabitants? How’s that going to work out? Or do you believe in a genocidal war god that supposedly wants North America for white people?
How arrogant must you be to claim reverse racism against a people that your culture oppressed. This is what King meant about a false sense of superiority.
The discrimination is ongoing, has never stopped, and rectification has always been belligerently opposed by racists. Let the racists expose themselves.
Because if you oppress or discriminate against anyone based on race even if it is a people who have been historically oppressed discriminating against a people who were the oppressors based on race that is still racism.
@theempiristnetwork Admit by merit not color of skin. Best candidates should have a priority. FICO uses merit. My credit is shot. Do I expect my credit score to allow me access to credit because my ancestors were oppressed and enslaved by Europeans?
"A majority of this Court signals that it regards discrimination as largely a phenomenon of the past, and that government bodies need no longer preoccupy themselves with rectifying racial justice...I, however, do not believe this nation is anywhere close to eradicating racial discrimination or its vestiges." ~ Thurgood Marshall (1908-1993), American lawyer, and Supreme Court Justice. ⚖️
Someone hating you because of your skin color is not the same as government policies hindering your progress, government policies are gone we cannot control people and how they feel about people of color
Already done. My freshman year roommate's daughter was a Howard legacy admission. She is a junior currently. The big difference between Howard and the Ivy Legue is that HU requires legacy admissions to meet the same academic requirements as every other student.
An HBCU, which were founded and continue 150 years because of discrimination, has basically been told they're too woke. If this was happening in a movie, we would have thought it was unrealistic. What is with this world.
HBCU's by the very nature of their origins, should be allowed to focus in all areas of education they provide, the admission of minority students and only allow white students entrance if a space is available after all desiring minority students have been admitted.
We really need true reparations. Give the billions you are giving Israel for a crime the US had nothing to do with to pay for the crimes against AA people.
Israel appears to have carte blanche and a no strings attachment to US defense support and cash infusions to destroy Palestinians much like current policies affect ADOS, with the help of replacement immigrants.
The 1619 project is fantastic. I just finished the first 2 episodes. Everyone should watch this and broaden their understanding of what happened in the past and how it pertains to where we are today.
"The whole world opened to me when I learned to read." 📚 ~ Mary McLeod Bethune (1875-1955), American educator, stateswoman, philanthropist, humanitarian, and activist. "For God's sake, don't be catch with pencil and paper. That was a major crime. You might as well had killed your master or missus." ~ Elijah Green (unknown), former slave from Charleston, South Carolina, whose experiences as a slave were recorded during the 1930s by the Federal Writer's Project of the WPA. "The rule on the place was: Wake up the slaves at daylight, begin work when they can see, and quit work when they can't see." ~ Peter Clifton (unknown), former slave from Winnsboro, South Carolina, whose experiences as a slave were recorded during the 1930s by the Federal Writer's Project of the WPA.
My mother met Mary McLeod Bethune in the late 1930's. She was kind of a relative, as she married into my mother's father side of the family. Bethune was my mother's maiden name.
Not 1 in 10,000 of us grasps the cruel tragedy of America's embrace of human slavery, or its impact on the nation 150 years after legal emancipation. Education might have helped.
We understand that everyone else has moved on, including Jews who survived the Holocaust. You're insecure and can't take responsibility that EVERYONE has advanced, but 13%
Yep. And now they're trying to eradicate the inadequate amount of education we received on the subject. As a white person, I'm horrified. How can WE understand the anger and resentment black people feel, if we never learn about slave breeding programs, the real reason for the civil war, Jim Crow, red-lining, G.I. Bill benefits denials, Black Wall Street, the Tuskegee Experiment, the Philadelphia Bombing, Rodney King beating, white flight, lynching, King Cotton, the civil rights movement, slaves not freed, the New Jim Crow, police racial profiling and brutality, and the real meaning of BLM. I learned so little of slavery and racism in school, and I had a "good education." Education was denied to slaves, and emancipated slaves. A good education was denied to former slaves through Jim Crow. After the Civil Rights Movement, poverty kept education away from people of color. Their inner-city neighborhood schools didn't compare to those in white suburbia. Busing didn't help, because history had already been white-washed. If we really wanted to cover the subject, it needs to be a stand-alone class, somewhere in high school. One year we'd get U.S. Government. One year we'd get U.S. Race Relations.
What does that look like? I'm asking in all seriousness, because I don't think it can work. I don't think there are enough funds in the U.S. budget to repay even the proven descendants of slaves--let alone every person of color. If reparations was done fairly, half of this country would be returned to the Natives, and the other half would belong to slave descendants. In essence, the U.S.A. would cease to exist. Even if there was a way to pay back every slave descendant, is that a lump sum? Is it a price in 1800's currency, or is it with interest accrued? Or adjusted for today's inflation? Is it in payments over a lifetime? Is it ever finished, or is it for as long as the former slave has descendants? What I would prefer to see, (and admittedly it doesn't affect me as a white woman,) is the cost of slavery, the price paid at the time, the profits to owners from slaves, and the deficit of pay during Jim Crow, (along with any other costs,) put into a round number. (Here, experts on the subject should be consulted.) Take that number, and move it into today's economy--with appropriate interest and inflation adjustment. THAT is what black people are owed. But rather than taking that number and making individual payments, it should go into its own budget category--like Defense, Education, and Transportation. This budget then goes toward college programs, home owner programs, business programs, and criminal defense programs. It could be administered like the G.I. bills were for white people. It would be a yearly budget item to lift people of color up. Once the round number is paid, the program would need to be reassessed. Unless/until we put an end to racism entirely, it would need to be kept--though it should grow smaller. What should happen, is that benefits would lift many people up, they'd afford homes, start businesses, go to college, and be able to fight injustice. As they succeed, they in turn would help lift others up. It would give them a first step they were denied.
@@spankyssurprise1361 Don't worry it will be coming from the Federal Government just like every other group who received Reparations! If you don't subscribe to the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights you should be fine.
Quote of my lifetime, regarding conservative groups threats to sue over race conscious investment in Education and Private business. "These conservative groups are saying not only are we (racist yt's) going to prevent helping Black Americans at our Education Institutions we (racist yt's) are going to prevent Black Americans from helping themselves."
Thank you for sharing this information Nicole, it is so vital for all of our people to to stay conscious of these facts so that we stay aware and connect the facts. I wish you endless success and blessings. I appreciate your work.
@@DANSSHIT I did not know small children had access to this forum. Please wait until you grow up and are capable of communicating on a mature adult level to connect to this platform Sonny.
A lot of her talking points are what Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore with ADOS have been saying for years. ADOS has promoted lineage and not race. As the original intent behind the Civil Rights movement was only for the american descendants of slavery. She should credit ADOS for the modern day movement for lineage based reparations.
Hatred is a cover for fear. They cannot understand why all ADOS/Freedmen/FBA are not like Nat Turner and fear they will one day seek revenge instead of equality. That's why they try to portray all Black people as criminals or lazy, the same tropes they've used the last 400 years. To justify the ill treatment.
There are many theories and reasons Dr Francess Cress Welsing had some interesting thoughts on reasons why. The bible also has some good explanations that add up to the context of where we are today
Young people, while y'all out there protesting what's happening in Gaza (ain't nothing inherently wrong with that), THIS, right here, is happening to us right here in THIS country!! Right now. Don't sleep on it!! Let's see some protesting 'bout THIS crap!!!
Men, wmoen and children are being systematically BOMBED and STARVED in Gaza. Te situation for Black people in America still hs challenges--but, it's NOT even close to what people in Gaza are facing. The vast MAJORITY of VIOLENCE that Black Americans face comes from other Black people.
White supremacy as a pathology that is being energized through political rhetoric, congressional decrees, and judicial laws is the issue. Everything else is secondary. Andrew Young has made this observation for a long time now and it must be confronted with courage. Maya Angelou said, “Courage is the most important virtue, because without courage, none of the other virtues can be applied.”
The problem is that "civil rights" is a meaningless catchphrase. What happened to Africans in America was a crime and an attack on their human rights and what they were supposed to get was justice and restitution for those crimes. But that requires legal actions and not just a few bills for voting rights. And it was never intended for Africans in America to be part of an "ideal" of equality for all. What happened with "civil rights" is that Lyndon B Johnson signed a bill outlawing an end to legal discrimination as a result of the March on Washington and other public movements. But those bills did nothing to end discrimination in all aspects of American life and those who fought for "civil rights" simply stopped there. No discussion of economic injustice which is the cornerstone of slavery and colonization to begin with. Not to mention there were no "teeth" put into any of these bills to ensure that equal educational opportunity was provided in kindergarten through high school which is what Brown vs Board of education was all about. But instead the whole discussion turned to college admissions which took the term "Affirmative Action" and turned it into a college quota program, when it originated in bills for US government jobs and contracts. And not only that, these people allowed Lyndon Johnson and the Democrats off the hook as if those bills were enough to forget and ignore the open and blatant history of racism among the Democrats as the party of the south, plantations, the confederacy and discrimination. And instead just blindly gave them the benefit of the doubt that things would get better with no system of mandates or checks to ensure progress on anything, not to mention no reparations. Which is how you get to mostly balck communities in poor shape, with poor schools and locked in a cycle of poverty and dysfunction. And somehow the only people getting sued for discrimination are institutions talking about "affirmitive action" using the same laws that came out of civil rights. All led mostly by Ed Blum and groups financing him. Yet where are the lawsuits for discrimination in all aspects of American life given the ongoing and persistent inequality across the board for balck communities? Crickets. Where are these lawyers and all this CRT when it comes to that?
When you say Africans in the US, you must be referring to the population who had recently immigrated to the US from some place in Africa during the 1960s, as they would be the only Africans in the US. If not, then another huge part of the problem is the continued reference to US citizens with foundational roots as Africans. Citizens who have obvious or known African ancestry but are some combination of African, European, and Indigenous descent whose ancestry is explicitly tied to the roots of this nation and these lands. You're literally perpetuating the same blatant discriminatory, construct of race based legislation, which is conservative and far right btw, this country was built upon which has been supported by all parties that have ever existed in the US. The history happened, and it was recorded... Why lie about it?
Dr. Claud Anderson talked about ALL of this: lives in DC and has never been invited to speak at that HBCU or any other forum to talk about his studies.
We don't have to be professors. Read 3 or 4 standard (highly readable!) books on U.S. history 1845-1965, and so much becomes clear. Knowledge is power!
The issue is that many of the students don't come from American slavery, they are the children of black emigrants. @Ali it's not race but lineage. Lieage is the issue! @Ali stop talking about race start talking about lineage!
Inherent in racism is a power imbalance, discrimination can't happen meaningfully if one group has no power to enforce their sense of superiority onto another group, so "reverse racism" is a ridiculous concept. As a white person, no matter what black people might think of my racial group, it has no bearing on my chances of being accepted to college or my access to a home loan or my ability to rent an apartment or get a job. If I am treated differently, it's not because of my race, but because of my gender or socioeconomic status or some other factor. For most of American history, America has been about "affirmative action" and racial privilege for white people, and during that time it was white people who gathered up most of the wealth, especially the capital. The idea of giving black people civil rights afterwards and forbidding race-based considerations in how to handle the distribution of wealth moving forward is just saying to them "here, you can have these scraps that we don't really want". In a capitalist system it's the ownership of capital that brings wealth and black people were systematically denied access to ownership of capital. To use the race analogy, it's not that now post civil rights reform we are lining everyone up on the starting line together to have the same chances in the race, it's like letting black people start when the white people are already nearly done.
My bad on that comment left 3 days ago. I don't know what that came from! But Anna Nicole Jones!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you for the 1619 project❤
U can't stop the tide from coming in ( Black people) go down to the beach & try to stop the water from reaching the shore it's IMPOSSIBLE, UNSTOPPABLE!
What you have here is an unbalanced Supreme Court which should be corrected immediately however, how do we do that in an unjust Society. I would call this looking for Justice in all the wrong places.
What I hear her say is that affirmative action should be limited to African Americans (and I assume, Native Americans) who have been systematically disenfranchised but not for other minorities, who have not. While I understand her position, and don't necessarily disagree with her, my question is, how do you execute this in a way that others are not disenfranchised by its implementation? It seems to me that solutions must keep others whole while restoring those who have been disenfranchised The other touchy issue needing attention is privilege. The privileged will never see themselves as that because what the rest of us call privilege is really only what should be the norm for everyone. It is considered privilege by us because we are precluded from enjoying these norms. Unfortunately, as long as we continue to discuss it as privilege, the "privileged" will view it as an attempt to take away their "normal" treatment rather than see it as a need to support us with receiving the same treatment. We cannot keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result
Exactly right the privileged black people in America will never see themselves as that because the rest of black people in the world call it privilege should be the norm for everyone. It is considered a privilege by non-AA because they're precluded from enjoying these norms... Because they don't have the privilege of being an American like our ungrateful AA....
DEI/DEIA was co-opted into a catch all for people who they were not intended for initially. It was supposed to be for descendants of the North American slave trade.
Time to place calls to the Deacons of Defense! Also, there is a difference between "you didn't get in" as opposed to "you didn't get in and no one that looks like you is getting in".
I was with you 100% until that last part of your introduction where you quoted from Nikole Hannah-Jones: "The 14th Amendment was no longer about alleviating the extraordinary repercussions of slavery but about treating everyone the same regardless of their "skin color," history or present condition." 14th A: But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. I struggle to find how her statement relates to the 14th while keying in on: repercussions of slavery?
When was the 14th Amendment written and adopted by all the states? What were the authors' original intent in writing the 14th Amendment? Then read Professor Jones article in the New Yorker Magazine. Thank you for asking such a thoughtful question. This country needs more inquisitive people like you. ✌🏿✌🏿🇯🇲🇺🇲
Slavery was a crime.....to everyone else. Asians, Whites, and Hispanics would have colonies on Jupiter, except one people held THE WHOLE WORLD back....and it wasn't any of the peoples mentioned
What is your point with the part of the 14th you quote? That piece indemnified the govt against slaveholder claims for compensation for the loss of their slaves (& for the war debts incurred by the rebellious stated). It says nothing of the rights of the freed ppl. The point of the 14th was to make it clear that former slaves were entitled to the same rights as everyone else under the constitution. This small part made it explicit that normal legal claims for loss of property were invalid & that the North would not pay the debts of states that had taken up arms against the nation. It appears your point is moot; care to clarify?
Don't forget the Morrill Acts and their need when land grant institution funding was only given to create white only agriculture colleges (i.e. N.C State).
Just yesterday a conservative tried to tell me that democrats were responsible for slavery, KKK and Jim Crow! She really got irritated when I told her to wake up and suggested tuning in to MSNBC!!! These people are just wicked Satanist’s who should all be in jail for threatening our democracy!
I understand its done,......but how, why, .....we live in 2024......where is respekt and accept for we not have to be agree......why we look color off human..?.we all are humann
Wrong. The opposite concept is that black people are practically invisible, except as the face of crime on the news. And see no public discourse in addressing the crime issue, except longer prison sentences. But there are possibilities of addressing issues before crimes are committed, such as anger management, and life planning, including introducing the concept of wealth. I want to amend your post this way: 'every americans's life is evolved around avoiding black people".
Every American should think of the least of us, and those who are suffering the most in our society when we vote. An American who only thinks of white folks when they vote is really a fascist because they forget that black Americans are their neighbors as well and are worthy of their thoughts. As an American I try to think of all of the people in my country when I make political choices, and I am not perfect but I think we should at least try because that is the type of citizen our constitution calls for and I consider it a civil duty as a citizen of a republic, trusted with political power, which I consider very sacred.
A Black person invented peanut butter. Black people were behind the development of every American genre of music. A Black person invented traffic lights. A Black person invented firefighting equipment. A Black person was the first to perform open heart surgery. And I'm not even scratching the surface here. Our lives do revolve around the work of Black people.
@@CortexNewsService our capital was built by enslaved African Americans as well, which I really think we need to make sure people are aware of. Thank you for sharing all of these important innovations that black Americans added to our society. Truthfully, I am surprised that we have to educate our fellow citizens like this, but I am mixed with middle eastern and european heritage and I think that makes me more tolerant as I am unable to really identify with a race fully. I wish everyone had the desire to understand people different from themselves and we didn't have to convince them to educate themselves or see the value in people besides themselves. Dr. Frances Cress Welsing said it best, that if everyone in the world loved each other then white wouldn't exist, because it's a minority and a recessive trait. Our fellow citizen may be suffering from the condition caused by being a white minority and feeling inferior because of it: white supremacy. He doesn't want to think of black people, and the only logical reasoning would be that he is suffering from racism/white supremacy. We can't really fix these people, because that's something a psychiatrist/therapist has to address as it's a subconscious behavioral issue. Many of us can't relate to them because we were never taught to be this way growing up, or we lived in integrated communities, or for those of us who are 'multi-racial' and more ambiguous looking, like myself, we don't really have a lens to look through to judge other races and at least for myself I don't even consider myself as having a race, and I've never had the desire to prioritize 'my own people'. In fact, I'm european/middle eastern and I've always been treated with much more love and respect from non-white people in America. I constantly feel judged by white Americans for my name and different views. My father had it far worse as a 1st generation iraqi immigrant. The result is my father couldn't fully integrate. (he arrived at 18 as a refugee of war) To me everyone in my country are my people and neighbors, and I am just interested in helping people who suffer from wars, and helping people who are treated poorly because of how they look or where they come from. My passion comes from the fact that my dad lived through the 1991 uprising in Iraq and barely survived coming to America as a refugee. It's important to me that non-white people are valued as equally as white people.
So that it is clear, lineage is the correct and proper approach to making the distinction between a intended dilution of American-ADOS against a lesser amount of Caribbean colonizers from France, England, Belgium and the like who's children emigrate into the US as favored Blacks over the citizens already here(the lineage) fraught with the English names of slave masters of the USA. This is not exact due to the expanse of the sale of slaves among the original colonies and those intertwined with island plantations, it is true that lineage is as important to allow reparations among other european slave trade country's.
@@willis7404 It's simple. B on B crime prevents Black people from having the collective strenght polictically,economically, etc to effectively make changes in the issues that you mentioned . Jones making moveies and complaining arent nearly enough to make systemic changes
@@onceagain6184 B on B crime is not new. We have a similar black homicide rate today as we did in the 60s and yet we still managed to have collective strength and pushed for advancement. I just struggle to see how black gang violence in the Southside of Chicago impacts policy we should push for to correct the complications of black women in Georgia dying in labor. It's just comes off as lazy whataboutism. And I don't say that to totally dismiss the issue with b crime.
@@onceagain6184 the reason I brought up the fact that it's not new is to point out a flaw in your argument. You stated that B on B crime prevents us "from having the collective strength polictically,economically, etc to effectively make changes" but if that were the case then the entire Civil Rights movement would not have taken place. Black crime and black maternal mortality are 2 separate issues.
Why do people always attempt to do that? The treatment and exploitation of Indentured servants was NO WHERE NEAR the experience of ENSLAVED people. Please stop trying to minimize the latter just because you agree with the ideology.
My ancestors weren't "indentured servants!" "Indentured servants" were paid after they finished working & the Slaves weren't. "American Descendants Of Slavery" is the term that should be used. Not only am i the descendant of Slaves, i am the descendant of the institution of Slavery.
Indentured servitude was a 7 year stretch. Not passed on to the children. American slavery was lifelong and included offspring which could be taken from you at will. Two completely different things.
We need a Civil Rights Movement part 2.
YES WE DO!!!
Facts !
We need reparations and the only way to do that is stop buying frivolously and stop joining the military. Nothing will really change without Blacks citizens uniting on those two fronts.
We need to go bac to our own. Integrating ain't it
@@brettcarve9432 so everyone needs to go back to Asia, Europe, Africa, and leave the Americas to the original inhabitants? How’s that going to work out? Or do you believe in a genocidal war god that supposedly wants North America for white people?
How arrogant must you be to claim reverse racism against a people that your culture oppressed. This is what King meant about a false sense of superiority.
The discrimination is ongoing, has never stopped, and rectification has always been belligerently opposed by racists. Let the racists expose themselves.
They doing it though... and thriving
It’s not arrogance it’s wickedness.
Because if you oppress or discriminate against anyone based on race even if it is a people who have been historically oppressed discriminating against a people who were the oppressors based on race that is still racism.
@@solo8342 WHO IS THE DEVIL
They want to bring back Jim crow laws so badly
Admissions by skin color preference is Jim Crow, so you're eight.
@@ejiofor8141How were those classified as “white” affected?
@@ejiofor8141Second, it’s opportunistic morality and gamesmanship…
@theempiristnetwork
Admit by merit not color of skin. Best candidates should have a priority. FICO uses merit. My credit is shot. Do I expect my credit score to allow me access to credit because my ancestors were oppressed and enslaved by Europeans?
@@mentalmachete2273 Where is the proof that they do not admit based on merit?
"A majority of this Court signals that it regards discrimination as largely a phenomenon of the past, and that government bodies need no longer preoccupy themselves with rectifying racial justice...I, however, do not believe this nation is anywhere close to eradicating racial discrimination or its vestiges."
~ Thurgood Marshall (1908-1993), American lawyer, and Supreme Court Justice. ⚖️
As long as there are White People on this planet 🌎 we will always have racism!😡
Someone hating you because of your skin color is not the same as government policies hindering your progress, government policies are gone we cannot control people and how they feel about people of color
THANK YOU! ❤
So what ! You people were more concerned about the Black Panther than you were about Thurgood Marshall.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful comment
Howard University needs to start a legacy admissions program. Problem solved.
I think they have a Legacy Admissions process.
We need to do just that...good idea and I agree with you. But will Blacks do that??? We act like we are scared if the master don't agree.
Yes, they do.@@rae7564
Already done. My freshman year roommate's daughter was a Howard legacy admission. She is a junior currently. The big difference between Howard and the Ivy Legue is that HU requires legacy admissions to meet the same academic requirements as every other student.
An HBCU, which were founded and continue 150 years because of discrimination, has basically been told they're too woke.
If this was happening in a movie, we would have thought it was unrealistic. What is with this world.
HBCU's by the very nature of their origins, should be allowed to focus in all areas of education they provide, the admission of minority students and only allow white students entrance if a space is available after all desiring minority students have been admitted.
Racist
Racism the end stage of capitalism.
We really need true reparations. Give the billions you are giving Israel for a crime the US had nothing to do with to pay for the crimes against AA people.
Israel appears to have carte blanche and a no strings attachment to US defense support and cash infusions to destroy Palestinians much like current policies affect ADOS, with the help of replacement immigrants.
The 1619 project is fantastic. I just finished the first 2 episodes. Everyone should watch this and broaden their understanding of what happened in the past and how it pertains to where we are today.
Did they mention Mansa Musa, the Barbary Piratss, and the African Slave Trade in Africa today?
Probably not.
Take your white guilt elsewhere
Now go listen to all the credible historians who debunked that nonsense.
All done by white people.
Love it
@@langston122 It's a great fantasy piece for sure.
"The whole world opened to me when I learned to read." 📚
~ Mary McLeod Bethune (1875-1955), American educator, stateswoman, philanthropist, humanitarian, and activist.
"For God's sake, don't be catch with pencil and paper. That was a major crime. You might as well had killed your master or missus."
~ Elijah Green (unknown), former slave from Charleston, South Carolina, whose experiences as a slave were recorded during the 1930s by the Federal Writer's Project of the WPA.
"The rule on the place was: Wake up the slaves at daylight, begin work when they can see, and quit work when they can't see."
~ Peter Clifton (unknown), former slave from Winnsboro, South Carolina, whose experiences as a slave were recorded during the 1930s by the Federal Writer's Project of the WPA.
My mother met Mary McLeod Bethune in the late 1930's. She was kind of a relative, as she married into my mother's father side of the family. Bethune was my mother's maiden name.
Well said, Nikole Hannah- Jones.
I love Mrs. Jones' brilliant mind and thoughtful heart. ❤🇯🇲❤
Preach it.
Not 1 in 10,000 of us grasps the cruel tragedy of America's embrace of human slavery, or its impact on the nation 150 years after legal emancipation. Education might have helped.
We understand that everyone else has moved on, including Jews who survived the Holocaust.
You're insecure and can't take responsibility that EVERYONE has advanced, but 13%
Yep. And now they're trying to eradicate the inadequate amount of education we received on the subject. As a white person, I'm horrified. How can WE understand the anger and resentment black people feel, if we never learn about slave breeding programs, the real reason for the civil war, Jim Crow, red-lining, G.I. Bill benefits denials, Black Wall Street, the Tuskegee Experiment, the Philadelphia Bombing, Rodney King beating, white flight, lynching, King Cotton, the civil rights movement, slaves not freed, the New Jim Crow, police racial profiling and brutality, and the real meaning of BLM.
I learned so little of slavery and racism in school, and I had a "good education." Education was denied to slaves, and emancipated slaves. A good education was denied to former slaves through Jim Crow. After the Civil Rights Movement, poverty kept education away from people of color. Their inner-city neighborhood schools didn't compare to those in white suburbia. Busing didn't help, because history had already been white-washed.
If we really wanted to cover the subject, it needs to be a stand-alone class, somewhere in high school. One year we'd get U.S. Government. One year we'd get U.S. Race Relations.
Not in Florida😂
Thank you so much for articulating these issues.
Hannah Nicole Jones is a absolutely lady.......WHAY A JEWEL....😊
No she is not. Do your research!
@@lioncub8969 Oh be quiet!
Elaborate.
Remedy is Reparations!
What does that look like? I'm asking in all seriousness, because I don't think it can work. I don't think there are enough funds in the U.S. budget to repay even the proven descendants of slaves--let alone every person of color. If reparations was done fairly, half of this country would be returned to the Natives, and the other half would belong to slave descendants. In essence, the U.S.A. would cease to exist.
Even if there was a way to pay back every slave descendant, is that a lump sum? Is it a price in 1800's currency, or is it with interest accrued? Or adjusted for today's inflation? Is it in payments over a lifetime? Is it ever finished, or is it for as long as the former slave has descendants?
What I would prefer to see, (and admittedly it doesn't affect me as a white woman,) is the cost of slavery, the price paid at the time, the profits to owners from slaves, and the deficit of pay during Jim Crow, (along with any other costs,) put into a round number. (Here, experts on the subject should be consulted.) Take that number, and move it into today's economy--with appropriate interest and inflation adjustment. THAT is what black people are owed.
But rather than taking that number and making individual payments, it should go into its own budget category--like Defense, Education, and Transportation. This budget then goes toward college programs, home owner programs, business programs, and criminal defense programs. It could be administered like the G.I. bills were for white people. It would be a yearly budget item to lift people of color up. Once the round number is paid, the program would need to be reassessed. Unless/until we put an end to racism entirely, it would need to be kept--though it should grow smaller.
What should happen, is that benefits would lift many people up, they'd afford homes, start businesses, go to college, and be able to fight injustice. As they succeed, they in turn would help lift others up. It would give them a first step they were denied.
Yeah let's take money from people who never owned slaves and give it to people who were never slaves...great idea.
@@spankyssurprise1361 Don't worry it will be coming from the Federal Government just like every other group who received Reparations! If you don't subscribe to the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights you should be fine.
@CheapStocksTV
Not if establishment shills are involved.
@@TG-fr8gb We don't need secret handouts just the debt to be paid!
Quote of my lifetime, regarding conservative groups threats to sue over race conscious investment in Education and Private business. "These conservative groups are saying not only are we (racist yt's) going to prevent helping Black Americans at our Education Institutions we (racist yt's) are going to prevent Black Americans from helping themselves."
ADOS, lineage-based policies makes sense in the admissions and other programs. Thank you Ali and thank you Queen Nikole.
Ms. Jones is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 👍🏾
Thank you for sharing this information Nicole, it is so vital for all of our people to to stay conscious of these facts so that we stay aware and connect the facts.
I wish you endless success and blessings. I appreciate your work.
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@@DANSSHIT I did not know small children had access to this forum. Please wait until you grow up and are capable of communicating on a mature adult level to connect to this platform Sonny.
1619 Project is a joke.
A lot of her talking points are what Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore with ADOS have been saying for years. ADOS has promoted lineage and not race. As the original intent behind the Civil Rights movement was only for the american descendants of slavery. She should credit ADOS for the modern day movement for lineage based reparations.
I just don't understand why we're still hated after all these centuries..
My guess is that the psychic well-being of many people remains afloat atop the sea of anti-blackness and the white supremacy myth. Hope that helps.
Hatred is a cover for fear.
They cannot understand why all ADOS/Freedmen/FBA are not like Nat Turner and fear they will one day seek revenge instead of equality.
That's why they try to portray all Black people as criminals or lazy, the same tropes they've used the last 400 years.
To justify the ill treatment.
There are many theories and reasons
Dr Francess Cress Welsing had some interesting thoughts on reasons why. The bible also has some good explanations that add up to the context of where we are today
Study history and it will tell you
@@Bluejacket4life2Like what?
Young people, while y'all out there protesting what's happening in Gaza (ain't nothing inherently wrong with that), THIS, right here, is happening to us right here in THIS country!! Right now. Don't sleep on it!! Let's see some protesting 'bout THIS crap!!!
Men, wmoen and children are being systematically BOMBED and STARVED in Gaza. Te situation for Black people in America still hs challenges--but, it's NOT even close to what people in Gaza are facing. The vast MAJORITY of VIOLENCE that Black Americans face comes from other Black people.
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Are you suggesting that protesting this, US, gov participation in colonizer violence against ethnic people, gets in the way of protesting US bigotry?
White supremacy as a pathology that is being energized through political rhetoric, congressional decrees, and judicial laws is the issue. Everything else is secondary. Andrew Young has made this observation for a long time now and it must be confronted with courage. Maya Angelou said, “Courage is the most important virtue, because without courage, none of the other virtues can be applied.”
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Your white guilt is embarrassing
Thanks for sharing this very intelligent idea
Thank you for sharing this conversation with one of my favorite journalists. Nikole Hannah Jones is on 🔥. Brilliant and beautiful as always.
The problem is that "civil rights" is a meaningless catchphrase. What happened to Africans in America was a crime and an attack on their human rights and what they were supposed to get was justice and restitution for those crimes. But that requires legal actions and not just a few bills for voting rights. And it was never intended for Africans in America to be part of an "ideal" of equality for all. What happened with "civil rights" is that Lyndon B Johnson signed a bill outlawing an end to legal discrimination as a result of the March on Washington and other public movements. But those bills did nothing to end discrimination in all aspects of American life and those who fought for "civil rights" simply stopped there. No discussion of economic injustice which is the cornerstone of slavery and colonization to begin with.
Not to mention there were no "teeth" put into any of these bills to ensure that equal educational opportunity was provided in kindergarten through high school which is what Brown vs Board of education was all about. But instead the whole discussion turned to college admissions which took the term "Affirmative Action" and turned it into a college quota program, when it originated in bills for US government jobs and contracts. And not only that, these people allowed Lyndon Johnson and the Democrats off the hook as if those bills were enough to forget and ignore the open and blatant history of racism among the Democrats as the party of the south, plantations, the confederacy and discrimination. And instead just blindly gave them the benefit of the doubt that things would get better with no system of mandates or checks to ensure progress on anything, not to mention no reparations. Which is how you get to mostly balck communities in poor shape, with poor schools and locked in a cycle of poverty and dysfunction. And somehow the only people getting sued for discrimination are institutions talking about "affirmitive action" using the same laws that came out of civil rights. All led mostly by Ed Blum and groups financing him. Yet where are the lawsuits for discrimination in all aspects of American life given the ongoing and persistent inequality across the board for balck communities? Crickets. Where are these lawyers and all this CRT when it comes to that?
Best comment ever!
When you say Africans in the US, you must be referring to the population who had recently immigrated to the US from some place in Africa during the 1960s, as they would be the only Africans in the US. If not, then another huge part of the problem is the continued reference to US citizens with foundational roots as Africans. Citizens who have obvious or known African ancestry but are some combination of African, European, and Indigenous descent whose ancestry is explicitly tied to the roots of this nation and these lands. You're literally perpetuating the same blatant discriminatory, construct of race based legislation, which is conservative and far right btw, this country was built upon which has been supported by all parties that have ever existed in the US. The history happened, and it was recorded... Why lie about it?
Good to see you, Ali Velshi💜
Dr. Claud Anderson talked about ALL of this: lives in DC and has never been invited to speak at that HBCU or any other forum to talk about his studies.
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We don't have to be professors. Read 3 or 4 standard (highly readable!) books on U.S. history 1845-1965, and so much becomes clear. Knowledge is power!
Wow, her incisive analysis is brilliantly framed and powerfully articulated.
And this people is how others co-opt our story
Reparations & a Anti-Black hate crime bill is what we need.
They claim reverse racism, but NEVER LEAVE IS TF ALONE.
This whoke discussion is race based but should be lineage based!
The entire point of slavery was in order to steal people's lives and labor there couldn't be any legacy 😮⚖️🤫
This is why reparations based on LINEAGE is required
When you don’t have a standard it’s easy for evil people to mold you into thinking and acting anyway they want you to.
Thank you for sharing this information Nicole,
The issue is that many of the students don't come from American slavery, they are the children of black emigrants. @Ali it's not race but lineage. Lieage is the issue! @Ali stop talking about race start talking about lineage!
What was the name of the conservative organization? I am taking names!
"close the border"
LBJ, paradoxically such a great President, destroyed by Vietnam. Breaks my heart.
Obj was a known racist. He called the bill he championed the N word bill.
Wonderful information. 😊
Love Dr Hannah Jones, she's truly one of our most remarkable leaders, blessed with wisdom🙏💙vote🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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She took from Yvette Carnell and Attorney Antonio Moore!!!
Took what?
Also, conservatives were not happy that Howard accepted her with open arms after she declined tenure and left UNC Chapel Hill
We know our history!
I wish she could have talked more.
I am a Black Republican and I have to agree with her and disagree with the Republican Party.
Inherent in racism is a power imbalance, discrimination can't happen meaningfully if one group has no power to enforce their sense of superiority onto another group, so "reverse racism" is a ridiculous concept. As a white person, no matter what black people might think of my racial group, it has no bearing on my chances of being accepted to college or my access to a home loan or my ability to rent an apartment or get a job. If I am treated differently, it's not because of my race, but because of my gender or socioeconomic status or some other factor. For most of American history, America has been about "affirmative action" and racial privilege for white people, and during that time it was white people who gathered up most of the wealth, especially the capital. The idea of giving black people civil rights afterwards and forbidding race-based considerations in how to handle the distribution of wealth moving forward is just saying to them "here, you can have these scraps that we don't really want". In a capitalist system it's the ownership of capital that brings wealth and black people were systematically denied access to ownership of capital. To use the race analogy, it's not that now post civil rights reform we are lining everyone up on the starting line together to have the same chances in the race, it's like letting black people start when the white people are already nearly done.
Howard's med school had and has students of all colors. Who ever wrote that was just trying to push the ridiculous reverse discrimination issue.
My bad on that comment left 3 days ago. I don't know what that came from! But Anna Nicole Jones!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Thank you for the 1619 project❤
Got hyjacked? That started decades ago by the greedy robber barons!
When caucasians say "I don't see race"...........it means exactly what it suggests.
We aren’t getting any push back on these destructive policies from the Democratic Party
This is why I'm done with the states. Nothing we do is ever enough.
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It’s opportunistic morality and gamesmanship…
May God have mercy on their souls
U can't stop the tide from coming in ( Black people) go down to the beach & try to stop the water from reaching the shore it's IMPOSSIBLE, UNSTOPPABLE!
What you have here is an unbalanced Supreme Court which should be corrected immediately however, how do we do that in an unjust Society. I would call this looking for Justice in all the wrong places.
They know they can’t win on a even playing field
Its only been one generation!? After 300 years...
What I hear her say is that affirmative action should be limited to African Americans (and I assume, Native Americans) who have been systematically disenfranchised but not for other minorities, who have not.
While I understand her position, and don't necessarily disagree with her, my question is, how do you execute this in a way that others are not disenfranchised by its implementation?
It seems to me that solutions must keep others whole while restoring those who have been disenfranchised
The other touchy issue needing attention is privilege. The privileged will never see themselves as that because what the rest of us call privilege is really only what should be the norm for everyone. It is considered privilege by us because we are precluded from enjoying these norms.
Unfortunately, as long as we continue to discuss it as privilege, the "privileged" will view it as an attempt to take away their "normal" treatment rather than see it as a need to support us with receiving the same treatment.
We cannot keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result
I like the way you think!
Exactly right the privileged black people in America will never see themselves as that because the rest of black people in the world call it privilege should be the norm for everyone. It is considered a privilege by non-AA because they're precluded from enjoying these norms... Because they don't have the privilege of being an American like our ungrateful AA....
Is our nation’s Vice-President and Howard alum aware of this?
So talking about movements meant to divide the black community that were implemented 50 years ago, curious how feminism isn't mentioned at all.
DEI/DEIA was co-opted into a catch all for people who they were not intended for initially. It was supposed to be for descendants of the North American slave trade.
Time to place calls to the Deacons of Defense! Also, there is a difference between "you didn't get in" as opposed to "you didn't get in and no one that looks like you is getting in".
Not as long as the 14th is still the law of the land.
I was with you 100% until that last part of your introduction where you quoted from Nikole Hannah-Jones: "The 14th Amendment was no longer about alleviating the extraordinary repercussions of slavery but about treating everyone the same regardless of their "skin color," history or present condition."
14th A: But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
I struggle to find how her statement relates to the 14th while keying in on: repercussions of slavery?
When was the 14th Amendment written and adopted by all the states? What were the authors' original intent in writing the 14th Amendment? Then read Professor Jones article in the New Yorker Magazine. Thank you for asking such a thoughtful question. This country needs more inquisitive people like you. ✌🏿✌🏿🇯🇲🇺🇲
Slavery was a crime.....to everyone else.
Asians, Whites, and Hispanics would have colonies on Jupiter, except one people held THE WHOLE WORLD back....and it wasn't any of the peoples mentioned
What is your point with the part of the 14th you quote?
That piece indemnified the govt against slaveholder claims for compensation for the loss of their slaves (& for the war debts incurred by the rebellious stated).
It says nothing of the rights of the freed ppl.
The point of the 14th was to make it clear that former slaves were entitled to the same rights as everyone else under the constitution. This small part made it explicit that normal legal claims for loss of property were invalid & that the North would not pay the debts of states that had taken up arms against the nation.
It appears your point is moot; care to clarify?
Invite Dr. Claud Anderson
There's no such thing as "race". Only thing that matters is culture.
😴🥱Of course there’s no such thing as black, white, Asian, etc. people because every human group looks the same 🙄.
I bought that book The 1619 Project, im not even 25% in yet & imma say this is the best book I've ever read !
😢no neighborhood
No schools
No businesses
Separation of family
Etc. Mission Accomplished…
Except for one thing….
The Fox 🦊and the wolf 🐺
If its in the law. All you need isthe wrong person togive it life again...
Don't forget the Morrill Acts and their need when land grant institution funding was only given to create white only agriculture colleges (i.e. N.C State).
Foundational Black American strong reparations now 🪓🪶🏹💯👊🏾
I hate that we have to treat conservatives as humans.
I love how you Leftist reveal your true hateful nature now.
Just yesterday a conservative tried to tell me that democrats were responsible for slavery, KKK and Jim Crow! She really got irritated when I told her to wake up and suggested tuning in to MSNBC!!! These people are just wicked Satanist’s who should all be in jail for threatening our democracy!
Rather stalinist of you
This comment section lacks
Your comment lacks..............specificity.
And you have not fixed it. 😊
She’s completely wrong. Color blindness is the only at forward.
Just face the facts alot of these laws set us up for failure! Thank GOD for Jesus! Liberation through him is the only way. Free your mind.
I understand its done,......but how, why, .....we live in 2024......where is respekt and accept for we not have to be agree......why we look color off human..?.we all are humann
Yes, every americans's life is evolved around black people.
Wrong. The opposite concept is that black people are practically invisible, except as the face of crime on the news. And see no public discourse in addressing the crime issue, except longer prison sentences. But there are possibilities of addressing issues before crimes are committed, such as anger management, and life planning, including introducing the concept of wealth.
I want to amend your post this way: 'every americans's life is evolved around avoiding black people".
Every American should think of the least of us, and those who are suffering the most in our society when we vote. An American who only thinks of white folks when they vote is really a fascist because they forget that black Americans are their neighbors as well and are worthy of their thoughts. As an American I try to think of all of the people in my country when I make political choices, and I am not perfect but I think we should at least try because that is the type of citizen our constitution calls for and I consider it a civil duty as a citizen of a republic, trusted with political power, which I consider very sacred.
Yes, America is built on anti-Blackness that's a provable fact. "to maintain white supremacy" was in certain states constitution.
A Black person invented peanut butter.
Black people were behind the development of every American genre of music.
A Black person invented traffic lights.
A Black person invented firefighting equipment.
A Black person was the first to perform open heart surgery.
And I'm not even scratching the surface here. Our lives do revolve around the work of Black people.
@@CortexNewsService our capital was built by enslaved African Americans as well, which I really think we need to make sure people are aware of. Thank you for sharing all of these important innovations that black Americans added to our society. Truthfully, I am surprised that we have to educate our fellow citizens like this, but I am mixed with middle eastern and european heritage and I think that makes me more tolerant as I am unable to really identify with a race fully. I wish everyone had the desire to understand people different from themselves and we didn't have to convince them to educate themselves or see the value in people besides themselves. Dr. Frances Cress Welsing said it best, that if everyone in the world loved each other then white wouldn't exist, because it's a minority and a recessive trait. Our fellow citizen may be suffering from the condition caused by being a white minority and feeling inferior because of it: white supremacy. He doesn't want to think of black people, and the only logical reasoning would be that he is suffering from racism/white supremacy. We can't really fix these people, because that's something a psychiatrist/therapist has to address as it's a subconscious behavioral issue. Many of us can't relate to them because we were never taught to be this way growing up, or we lived in integrated communities, or for those of us who are 'multi-racial' and more ambiguous looking, like myself, we don't really have a lens to look through to judge other races and at least for myself I don't even consider myself as having a race, and I've never had the desire to prioritize 'my own people'. In fact, I'm european/middle eastern and I've always been treated with much more love and respect from non-white people in America. I constantly feel judged by white Americans for my name and different views. My father had it far worse as a 1st generation iraqi immigrant. The result is my father couldn't fully integrate. (he arrived at 18 as a refugee of war) To me everyone in my country are my people and neighbors, and I am just interested in helping people who suffer from wars, and helping people who are treated poorly because of how they look or where they come from. My passion comes from the fact that my dad lived through the 1991 uprising in Iraq and barely survived coming to America as a refugee. It's important to me that non-white people are valued as equally as white people.
So that it is clear, lineage is the correct and proper approach to making the distinction between a intended dilution of American-ADOS against a lesser amount of Caribbean colonizers from France, England, Belgium and the like who's children emigrate into the US as favored Blacks over the citizens already here(the lineage) fraught with the English names of slave masters of the USA. This is not exact due to the expanse of the sale of slaves among the original colonies and those intertwined with island plantations, it is true that lineage is as important to allow reparations among other european slave trade country's.
Line up 20 Americans born since slavery ended 5 or more have Black ancestry.
The 14th isstill in the constitution. I sawthemchange the 15th!?
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You get rid ofthe 14th!? You have adeal...
Johnson, after his alleged Kennedy assassination involvement.
Liberty Just Ice Centre ahem Liberty Justice Center? M.E. Buck Dougherty, III? Okay.
Dougherty III. Buck off!
Historical black college, Ali. Presently these colleges are for everybody. No discrimination
today!
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Sorry. Buck Dougherty III? Allegedly. How many people has His type (sic) met. Billions of us. Past and Present and Future. Narrow minded idiots. Seriously. Oh Buck. Liberty Justice Center. As always.
Any updates on Tyson's foods laying of thousands and hiring illegals?🤔 Interesting...
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What was the action of the NAACP AT THAT TIME.
Blah blah blah!
"We" need to focus much much more on internal development!
B on B day is an epidemic!
What does B on B crime have to do with some of the issues she laid out like black law fellowships and black mothers dying during child birth?
@@willis7404 It's simple. B on B crime prevents Black people from having the collective strenght polictically,economically, etc to effectively make changes in the issues that you mentioned . Jones making moveies and complaining arent nearly enough to make systemic changes
@@onceagain6184 B on B crime is not new. We have a similar black homicide rate today as we did in the 60s and yet we still managed to have collective strength and pushed for advancement. I just struggle to see how black gang violence in the Southside of Chicago impacts policy we should push for to correct the complications of black women in Georgia dying in labor. It's just comes off as lazy whataboutism. And I don't say that to totally dismiss the issue with b crime.
@@willis7404 I DON'T CARE THAT IT ISN'T NEW. You are extremely misguided. That is your prerogative.
@@onceagain6184 the reason I brought up the fact that it's not new is to point out a flaw in your argument. You stated that B on B crime prevents us "from having the collective strength polictically,economically, etc to effectively make changes" but if that were the case then the entire Civil Rights movement would not have taken place. Black crime and black maternal mortality are 2 separate issues.
@4:30 Good lookin chick! 👌🏽
They could change it to "descendants of the enslaved" and "indentured servants" to be fair. They should do that.
Why do people always attempt to do that? The treatment and exploitation of Indentured servants was NO WHERE NEAR the experience of ENSLAVED people. Please stop trying to minimize the latter just because you agree with the ideology.
Indentured? With a way out which many of them had? Always looking out for # 1 aren’t ya?
My ancestors weren't "indentured servants!" "Indentured servants" were paid after they finished working & the Slaves weren't. "American Descendants Of Slavery" is the term that should be used. Not only am i the descendant of Slaves, i am the descendant of the institution of Slavery.
Indentured servitude was a 7 year stretch. Not passed on to the children.
American slavery was lifelong and included offspring which could be taken from you at will.
Two completely different things.
@@Charles-tt3dr Facts!!!! 💜💪
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Create policy based on class, not race.
You've got it👏👏👍
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how can an ideal get hijacked when it was fake to begin with?