Pinned! Love the humility. To clarify, is he trying to kick from the left hash and towards the left post, having the ball ride the wind towards the middle? I would call that a draw. Special teams coach really should have mentioned something to the OC, to run a play to the left side of the field.
Truth is, even if he makes the kick, Bills defense wasn't stopping KC offense from getting at least a FG with 1:40-something left with the way they were playing. Allen knew they needed the TD and that's why he was trying to force it on the previous plays.
That doesn’t make sense. If they couldn’t stop the Chiefs then neither a field goal or TD at that point would have helped. They needed to burn more time off the clock by getting a first down before scoring. The sooner the Bills scored the easier it would be for the Chiefs.
Truth is this a dumb ass comment how you get the truth outta of a opinion did you go to a universe where he made it and they went down and scored naw i dont think so so there is no truth to that at all
@@Fredrique66 Mahomes: Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself? Allen: F**kin kill me.. Mahomes: Why are you hitting yourself! Why are you hitting yourself! Why are you hitting yourself! Allen: DO IT!!!
Yeah that last drive was not well thought out. They had time to discuss and the information should have been shared with Allen, that if there's no play get the ball to the other side of the field.
What I wanna know is why'd the playcaller decide to run long throw schemes. You should try to drain the clock in this scenario: run the ball! If you throw, short throws! Even if you don't get the first down you should still get closer to make it easier for the kicker while burning time/opponent time outs. They even had a 2 minute warning to consider it...
it's josh allen he's not throwing the ball short. He's all or nothing. He had an easy 5 yd pass to his #1 reciever Diggs for a 1st down, but he decided to take a shot for the endzone.
coaching is absolutely horrible in the NFL. One of the advantages the Chiefs have is Andy Read who is a great coach. You are 100% correct in everything you say here. It's mind boggling that a coach can't realize it.
In theory, kicking from the right has should actually widen the area he can kick through with his left to right fade (not draw). But that requires actually starting it at the left lost.
The instant Romo and Nantz started talking about how much the Bills head coach trusted Bass, I knew he was going to miss the kick. Way too much praise for the jinx gods to ignore.
As soon as I saw them fail to convert on third down and bring Tyler Bass in to kick the field goal I knew he was gonna miss it. He hasn’t been trustworthy all year.
As soon as the pre-game show focused entirely on the Chefs, I laid down money on the Chefs. Watch the pre-game show.. They telegraph who the winner will be.
How true! If that FG was good it would’ve simply set up the inevitable. Mahomes and company would’ve driven for the winning FG. Too much time left. Allen and the Bills needed a TD and to chew up time! That was a terrible drive!!!
We knew too man, we knew too 😐 Honestly even if he did hit it by some miracle, I feel like 2 timeouts and over a minute on the clock was sufficient for Patio Homes to get at least a FG for the win....
Totally agree, so many games are lost on teams putting their kicker on the wrong hash. It's like bowling - where you line up is the most important part.
Any comment on the placement by the holder? Should the ball be straight up or should it lean to one side. It looked like the ball was leaning. Not sure if that means anything.
That's not a draw. It's a fade. Professional kickers know their ball flight and take that into consideration when lining up the kick. He just didn't start the ball enough left to compensate for his natural ball flight plus the wind (plus the ghost of Scott Norwood yelling "Laces out, Finkel!!!).
From what I understand of kicking mechanics, isn’t it the case that a lot of the direction of the kick is based on where you make contact with the ball in the arc of your kick?
Another problem with your theory is that in order to hit the ball to the left, you line up on the right (hash) & aim at the left third of the target area (if it has been established that a crosswind is influencing ball flight). Were he to line up on the left hashmark, his entire target acquisition changes and he's left with the thought of ' I absolutely cannot hit this left of the upright bc the wind might die', so he's kicking safely inside the left upright somewhere, and his ball flight is already going left to right. The wind only exacerbates that error, and he still misses wide-right. He might could duck-hook it for a hard right to left ball flight, but that's no guarantee it'll work & it's not his natural kick. Hard hooks tend to come out on a low trajectory, which is also problematic. A lot of this is science, coupled with the influences of human nature & natural tendencies. Just ask any professional golfer about tee shot alignment strategies.
I'm a casual football fan from the UK so forgive me, but how does the ball get put on the left or right hash for a kick? How did this kick end up on the right instead of the left?
I knew he was gonna miss when Jim Nantz said that he was the guy you want in these situations and when the graphic of 9/9 career FG for a potential game tying or lead changing kicks late in the game. The graphic and commentator double curse right there.
The whole problem was 💯the wind…..go to the replay from behind the kicker…the flags on both goal posts were close to horizontal to the right…..and the way that ball practically jumped to the right shows just how strong it was……so many tin foil hat conspiracy theorists blaming being rigged…..just sore loser bettors most likely…..
I think the more important question is why Josh didn't see his receiver running over the middle wide open well short arming it to the end zone to another wide open receiver two plays earlier...... Or why Kansas City had 8 plays of 20 yards or more & Buffalo had 0 such plays? But yeah don't let me get in the way of you blaming the kicker🤦
Not a kicking expert by any means so correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that hold also a little wonky? Seems like he had the ball at a bit of an angle instead of up and down. IDK maybe that is meta now
I think it would have made more sense to just go for it on 4th down like we did two years ago so that we could have at least regained the lead. But then again, the Chiefs would have likely scored another touchdown in less than a minute and with how our defence played all game, it probably would not have mattered.
If kicking is anything like golf you can see it in how he contacts the ball with his foot. He hits it with his foot swinging from the outside of the ball and contacting the ball from out to in. In golf if you do that you will slice every time.
That's a fade not a draw, but he needed to do what bad golfers everywhere have done for ages: aim way left (or right) and let the curve bring it back to the intended target.
It's actually the placeholder's fault for tilting the ball to the right. You can also blame Green Bay's placeholder for doing the same thing only tilting it left and Clausen hooked the ish out of it.
Makes you wonder if they should’ve just gone for it on 4th, especially when you consider the very real possibility that Mahomes scores a TD next drive (and honestly, a field goal is a certainty)
Exactly; I honestly feel both teams played to a draw of offense and defense, but the special teams play was horrible for the Bills all night. Close games are almost always decided by special teams play, and it definitely shows in this game.
Yehh I have no idea about kicking generally but looking at the flags showing the wind I have no idea why they would line it up on the right hash!? I'm a bill's fan (from the UK so not die hard) so this was so disappointing. Also that Diggs drop oooofff.
He can, the problem with the Right hash is that the uprights are out of your vision, so to compare it to a quarterback you're sort of throwing it across your body and to aim closer to the left post from the right hash is just an EXTREMELY uncomfortable angle for kickers, likely he was trying to get it back over there and just didn't hit it clean enough.
Yeah I also knew when they brought in the fg unit there was no chance of making that kick in those conditions. I would have been amazed if he somehow did. I was hoping they knew they needed to milk the clock getting much closer and in better position for a game tying field goal. As phenomenal as Allen played his bad decisions on that last set of downs was what did them in. That and the Bills defense sucking all game. Honestly should have been over after that moronic fake punt attempt..
It wasn't just this kick. Bills had LOTS of dropped/missed passes leading to one dimensional offense that KC handled. Also kick wouldn't have mattered if KC hadn't fumbled on the goal line.
Well that PI call on the 2nd to last drive or w/e was pretty favorable to chiefs, could have been a no call, but then they lost it on the 1 anyway so it didnt make a difference.@@matthewhenningervonada9914
With all due respect, the kick didn’t miss because of anything technical. The kick missed because it was the will of the Curse. At this point, there’s enough volume and quality of evidence to prove it’s existence. I will be publishing a video in my new series making the case for it (literally treating it like a court case lol)… probably around Episode 10-15ish. 5+ billion people around the world believe in religion… if that’s ok, then acknowledging something supernatural and nefarious targeting the people of Buffalo is real needs to be ok as well.
A draw or hook goes left. A fade or slice goes right. You were saying the wrong word the whole video
That's embarassing
How can we trust anyone if we can't trust our punter overlord on kicking terminology
Pinned! Love the humility.
To clarify, is he trying to kick from the left hash and towards the left post, having the ball ride the wind towards the middle? I would call that a draw.
Special teams coach really should have mentioned something to the OC, to run a play to the left side of the field.
@@IsaacPunts Give this man some slack, the baby's probably keeping him up all night. 😅😅
@@IsaacPunts But you know what, we all still understood the message you were trying to convey.
Dang Bills, now we've got another week of Swifties. C'mon Ravens end this nightmare
I'm with you on this.
😂 imagine if the Swifties make it to the Super Bowl 😂. But I'm a Chiefs fan so I don't mind (much).
NFL is NOT going to allow the Chefs to lose.
I'm just hoping that this year they won't allow Lamar Jackson to lose.@@Ziggy_Moonglow
Savvy observation. How do guys that get paid a lot of money to win games not realize this?
They get paid to do what they're told to do.
@@Edwardsjm I'm talking about the coaches who make the decisions and tell players what to do.
@@gunwrencher1566 right the other actors, got it
Lol what
@@gunwrencher1566
The coaches get the same script.
As soon as I saw the wind blowing right AND on the right hash, I knew it was going to miss.
Not enough WIND to do that to a football? Magnets yes!
Truth is, even if he makes the kick, Bills defense wasn't stopping KC offense from getting at least a FG with 1:40-something left with the way they were playing. Allen knew they needed the TD and that's why he was trying to force it on the previous plays.
That doesn’t make sense. If they couldn’t stop the Chiefs then neither a field goal or TD at that point would have helped. They needed to burn more time off the clock by getting a first down before scoring. The sooner the Bills scored the easier it would be for the Chiefs.
@@DoctorBiobrain The bills scoring and leaving KC with enough time for a FG? Where have we seen that before.
Missed a wide open in the end zone? Wake up and smell the coffee!
Truth is this a dumb ass comment how you get the truth outta of a opinion did you go to a universe where he made it and they went down and scored naw i dont think so so there is no truth to that at all
@@Typzical Nice we ran the clock off to 6 seconds left, theres no way we lose now
There are 3 certainties in life. Death, taxes, and the bills losing to the chiefs in the playoffs.
As a Bills fan, you're telling the the truth.
Mahomes owes Allen child support 😅😅
Use to be the Cowboys and now it’s the chiefs. Wild West themed teams slaughter Buffalo.
They should make it 4 certainties in life.. 4- Dallas choking in the wild card round.
@@Fredrique66
Mahomes: Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?
Allen: F**kin kill me..
Mahomes: Why are you hitting yourself! Why are you hitting yourself! Why are you hitting yourself!
Allen: DO IT!!!
@@darthsilversith667Cowboys don’t usually choke in the wildcard. It’s most often the divisional, just happened to be wildcard this year
Yeah that last drive was not well thought out. They had time to discuss and the information should have been shared with Allen, that if there's no play get the ball to the other side of the field.
What I wanna know is why'd the playcaller decide to run long throw schemes. You should try to drain the clock in this scenario: run the ball! If you throw, short throws! Even if you don't get the first down you should still get closer to make it easier for the kicker while burning time/opponent time outs. They even had a 2 minute warning to consider it...
Not to mention if ANY of the Bills could catch something longer than 15 yds, Bass never would have been in this scapegoat situation.
Right! They were able to run all game, why stray from what’s working with the game on the line?
@@GoodNews-px2im Because it's rigged....how often does this have to happen before people realize it?
it's josh allen he's not throwing the ball short. He's all or nothing. He had an easy 5 yd pass to his #1 reciever Diggs for a 1st down, but he decided to take a shot for the endzone.
coaching is absolutely horrible in the NFL. One of the advantages the Chiefs have is Andy Read who is a great coach. You are 100% correct in everything
you say here. It's mind boggling that a coach can't realize it.
It was not just the damn kick the team blew it at the end!
In theory, kicking from the right has should actually widen the area he can kick through with his left to right fade (not draw). But that requires actually starting it at the left lost.
The instant Romo and Nantz started talking about how much the Bills head coach trusted Bass, I knew he was going to miss the kick. Way too much praise for the jinx gods to ignore.
As soon as I saw them fail to convert on third down and bring Tyler Bass in to kick the field goal I knew he was gonna miss it. He hasn’t been trustworthy all year.
As soon as the pre-game show focused entirely on the Chefs, I laid down money on the Chefs. Watch the pre-game show.. They telegraph who the winner will be.
@@jeycee32facts
Very well done brotha
Man's got more of a fade than my Big Bertha.
Not wide right again!! Oh the humanity!!
Lol.
my thoughts exactly
His first point-after even drew comments on the broadcast. He looked wild all night.
the setup
He looked wild all season
1:41 left, even if he makes it, Bills lose. They were not going to stop the Chiefs from scoring. Allen needed a TD on that drive.
How true! If that FG was good it would’ve simply set up the inevitable. Mahomes and company would’ve driven for the winning FG. Too much time left. Allen and the Bills needed a TD and to chew up time! That was a terrible drive!!!
Love these videos man
We knew too man, we knew too 😐
Honestly even if he did hit it by some miracle, I feel like 2 timeouts and over a minute on the clock was sufficient for Patio Homes to get at least a FG for the win....
Appreciate that breakdown...
Also, Tyler 'scapegoat' Bass lol
Did everyone notice the ball Josh threw into the ground with the Bills receiver wide open in the end zone
I think he was hit on that play
Dumb play calls led to a kick. You would think that Buffalo would be aware of the approach by now.
Going nowhere until they fire this coach.
Nicely done.
I said this to my wife as we were watching...set way to the right and the wind blowing to the right...I was yelling at the TV lol
Good call !
How common is it for kickers to have a preference between kicking from the left vs. the right hash?
Totally agree, so many games are lost on teams putting their kicker on the wrong hash. It's like bowling - where you line up is the most important part.
As a former competitive bowler, I appreciate this reference
Wiiiiiide Right; Reborn
History, pain and we can't have nice things actually describes perfectly the on going life of every Bills fan since the 90's.
Any comment on the placement by the holder? Should the ball be straight up or should it lean to one side. It looked like the ball was leaning. Not sure if that means anything.
A "laces out" moment
That's not a draw. It's a fade. Professional kickers know their ball flight and take that into consideration when lining up the kick. He just didn't start the ball enough left to compensate for his natural ball flight plus the wind (plus the ghost of Scott Norwood yelling "Laces out, Finkel!!!).
From what I understand of kicking mechanics, isn’t it the case that a lot of the direction of the kick is based on where you make contact with the ball in the arc of your kick?
Another problem with your theory is that in order to hit the ball to the left, you line up on the right (hash) & aim at the left third of the target area (if it has been established that a crosswind is influencing ball flight). Were he to line up on the left hashmark, his entire target acquisition changes and he's left with the thought of ' I absolutely cannot hit this left of the upright bc the wind might die', so he's kicking safely inside the left upright somewhere, and his ball flight is already going left to right. The wind only exacerbates that error, and he still misses wide-right. He might could duck-hook it for a hard right to left ball flight, but that's no guarantee it'll work & it's not his natural kick. Hard hooks tend to come out on a low trajectory, which is also problematic.
A lot of this is science, coupled with the influences of human nature & natural tendencies. Just ask any professional golfer about tee shot alignment strategies.
I'm a casual football fan from the UK so forgive me, but how does the ball get put on the left or right hash for a kick? How did this kick end up on the right instead of the left?
It depends on where the previous play ended. That's what determines which hash the ball is spotted
Laces out, dan
I knew he was gonna miss when Jim Nantz said that he was the guy you want in these situations and when the graphic of 9/9 career FG for a potential game tying or lead changing kicks late in the game. The graphic and commentator double curse right there.
The Bills Wide Right curse.
The flags on top of the goal posts show a strong wind from left to right.
The kicker did not compensate Q
The whole problem was 💯the wind…..go to the replay from behind the kicker…the flags on both goal posts were close to horizontal to the right…..and the way that ball practically jumped to the right shows just how strong it was……so many tin foil hat conspiracy theorists blaming being rigged…..just sore loser bettors most likely…..
Did I see correctly that Minnesota ranks above Chicago in wind speed as Minn plays in a dome?
I think the more important question is why Josh didn't see his receiver running over the middle wide open well short arming it to the end zone to another wide open receiver two plays earlier......
Or why Kansas City had 8 plays of 20 yards or more & Buffalo had 0 such plays? But yeah don't let me get in the way of you blaming the kicker🤦
You don't have a video up about the packers kicker?
Working on it, I have a more nuanced take on him than most
Not a kicking expert by any means so correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that hold also a little wonky? Seems like he had the ball at a bit of an angle instead of up and down. IDK maybe that is meta now
Kick was from the right hash.
Right footed kickes
Sliced it
And the spot was where a right footed kicker usually wants it at.
The right hash.
I think it would have made more sense to just go for it on 4th down like we did two years ago so that we could have at least regained the lead. But then again, the Chiefs would have likely scored another touchdown in less than a minute and with how our defence played all game, it probably would not have mattered.
Ray Finkle probably would've made it.
What if the laces aren't out?
@@jeremyquiros5483 that dang Dan Marino.
If kicking is anything like golf you can see it in how he contacts the ball with his foot. He hits it with his foot swinging from the outside of the ball and contacting the ball from out to in. In golf if you do that you will slice every time.
Maybe not. I wasn't convinced that his right hip turned enough (counter clockwise) . As a result, the ball was pushed.
I new he was gonna miss it
A lot of older Bill fans were reminded of Scott Norwood right there.
With a curve like that, he should try out for the Mets.
He doesn't have a draw ... he has a fade.
That's a fade not a draw, but he needed to do what bad golfers everywhere have done for ages: aim way left (or right) and let the curve bring it back to the intended target.
Homie also almost missed the first kick to the right. I wasn't surprised. Glad we've got Butker not Bass.
Mahomes to Allen is Brady to manning,just can’t beat the guy 😂
I said "wide right" before the ball was snapped, my wife wasn't impressed.
So this kicker has the Zoolander effect, he can only kick left
It's actually the placeholder's fault for tilting the ball to the right. You can also blame Green Bay's placeholder for doing the same thing only tilting it left and Clausen hooked the ish out of it.
True, wrong term but the analyzing was spot on...
Magnetic balls will do what they are designed to do. That balls going in then magically sharp hooks right.
Crushed Bills fan here-can you make a video explaining the idiocy of having Sam Martin punt with a hamstring strain instead of a healthy Matt Haack?
Makes you wonder if they should’ve just gone for it on 4th, especially when you consider the very real possibility that Mahomes scores a TD next drive (and honestly, a field goal is a certainty)
So many eyeball ice cubes fell last night in Buffalo. I really feel for them.
But....Go Chiefs!
I saw where it was placed, it looked odd to me...still knew before he kicked, he'd miss it.
Are you going to address the abysmal punting by the Bills? The 30 yard punt?
I hate to dogpile, but DAMN. Poor Bills fans.
yeah punter was injured against stealers.. why thers not a back up punter i dunno. also bass punted once i n the game ffs...
@@BenevolentDrums I didn't know that. In that case, he did a great job.
Exactly; I honestly feel both teams played to a draw of offense and defense, but the special teams play was horrible for the Bills all night. Close games are almost always decided by special teams play, and it definitely shows in this game.
Its the Bills. A team steeped in a tradition of missing big kicks.
The Cigarette Smoking Man, from the X Files, must still be alive.
The ball from that angle looks slanted right
i somehow hate the postseason more than i ever have before
that sucks for him. he is a good kicker.
next do a video of the catch that went through a pro bowl reciver hands. Diggs
Yehh I have no idea about kicking generally but looking at the flags showing the wind I have no idea why they would line it up on the right hash!? I'm a bill's fan (from the UK so not die hard) so this was so disappointing. Also that Diggs drop oooofff.
You don't have a choice where you line it up, wherever side the ball went dead to is where the ball is placed
The good news is: by running down the clock, the Bills kept K.C from getting another score. The bad news is: K.C was already ahead.
Yeah. The Bills are the AFC version of the Packers.
Except that the Packers won, not lost, four Super Bowls.
@@jimroscoviusI mean in the fact of always losing to a rival in the playoffs.
@@twobrosgamers8426 Oh, I hear ya. Sucks, doesn't it?
I don't know kicking. Can someone explain why he cant aim to the left of the goalposts?
He can, the problem with the Right hash is that the uprights are out of your vision, so to compare it to a quarterback you're sort of throwing it across your body and to aim closer to the left post from the right hash is just an EXTREMELY uncomfortable angle for kickers, likely he was trying to get it back over there and just didn't hit it clean enough.
I get it man, at my wedding i said i do..... big mistake
If the offense and defense played better they never woulda been in that position
Lol. Can't this be said of EVERY game ever played?
The curse or Scott Norwood lives on .
It's not a draw, it's a fade.
Good point but it's a fade, not a draw.
Never played golf apparently.
Yeah I also knew when they brought in the fg unit there was no chance of making that kick in those conditions. I would have been amazed if he somehow did. I was hoping they knew they needed to milk the clock getting much closer and in better position for a game tying field goal. As phenomenal as Allen played his bad decisions on that last set of downs was what did them in. That and the Bills defense sucking all game. Honestly should have been over after that moronic fake punt attempt..
my comment on this. HE WAS DOWN BY CONTACT.
so, you advocate wasting 3rd down TD try for ball placement for a field goal?
Left or right hash should make no difference. If you know the kick is going to move right, then aim left.
This was a tragidy that I did not want to see Norwood you.
Bass kicked this like my sister😂
My man... you obviously mean to say that Bass FADES the ball -- not DRAWS.
It honestly didn't matter. Even if he got the field goal, defense wasnt stopping Mahomes from just walking down and taking the lead again
I just don't know how he can't kick based on his tendencies and the wind. You can see the wind. Just kick for the left post.
It wasn't just this kick. Bills had LOTS of dropped/missed passes leading to one dimensional offense that KC handled. Also kick wouldn't have mattered if KC hadn't fumbled on the goal line.
I could tell by his body alignment it was going to the right.
Missed opportunity not going with M.C. Esher
I think he rushed it. He had no time to think about it as neither team had called a timeout.
And the Swift gravy train marches on. 😒
Worst part? The refs didn't even help the chiefs. The bills lost because of themselves.
Well that PI call on the 2nd to last drive or w/e was pretty favorable to chiefs, could have been a no call, but then they lost it on the 1 anyway so it didnt make a difference.@@matthewhenningervonada9914
@@matthewhenningervonada9914 They are habitual self foot shooters.
@@royconestoga7326 Cursed since 65.
I'm just here, waiting for your analasys of the fake punt and in particular the motion of the ballcarier and how the KC Defence read that perfectly.
That's going to get a deeper dive
nice @@IsaacPunts
With all due respect, the kick didn’t miss because of anything technical. The kick missed because it was the will of the Curse. At this point, there’s enough volume and quality of evidence to prove it’s existence. I will be publishing a video in my new series making the case for it (literally treating it like a court case lol)… probably around Episode 10-15ish.
5+ billion people around the world believe in religion… if that’s ok, then acknowledging something supernatural and nefarious targeting the people of Buffalo is real needs to be ok as well.
you didn't show the other goal post that the flags weren't even moving! I say remote controlled ball
Hooks and fades etc notwithstanding. Look at his body lining up. Yes I know they up off to the side. But. yeh.
OJ strikes again.
I knew it would miss. Now I know why. Thanks.