Lessons from my time running a fixed wireless Internet Service Provider or WISP OntarioHighSpeed.ca
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2022
- In this video I go over some things I learned running a fixed wireless ISP.
Hopefully you can learn something from this. Even if you're not in the industry.
I would apreciate more feedback below in the comments. I can make a few more follow up videos if you guys want.
If you guys don't like it this will be the last one.
I left out boring stuff like network segmentation because its so obvious that you should never have more than 50 clients per broadcast domain or else you will have lots of issues especially if you do pppoe. - Věda a technologie
Oh man, I really dig this content! Hell I was just enjoying you going off talking about any detail you felt like talking about and then towards the end when you were getting a little ranty all the sudden you just jumped off quit talking. That sucked I was into it man way into it it's like one of the best conversations I've ever had in a long time and I didn't say a damn word. So obviously I subscribed I'm going to go start looking through the rest of your content for the same type of shit! Keep it up man I dig this I really do. Hopefully you'll come out with some more ranting and just nonsensical meanderings of your mind because it was fun to listen to and really informative. Best of luck to you many many many many thanks.
cheers,
- Robert
Hey im glad you enjoyed it.
I made a few more purely technical ones that explained the technical videos I never uploaded. I might go and edit them together and upload them at some point. They re very dry compared to this one.
edit: One thing I hope I got through explaining was the stupidity of rural broadband grants. Both in the USA and Canada. Nobody cares to fix this they just care to hand out money to help people build mini monopoly's. Biden was really bad about it in his last round of them down south.
The solution is to reduce everyones costs to cover/expand to these areas through middle miles rather than give people piles of money.
I Really Appreciate this, I'm considering Building small cell sites, I commission and integrate for major carriers and work with Alot of the equipment you mentioned
I would like to work for myself building and commissioning Sites
I learned so much with this video. Thanks for taking the time out to explain
You would be perfect for wireless consulting
Thank You, I consult for a few Wireless ISP's right now. I also may have something rather major in the works that if it pans out and gets funded will be a real game changer for the quality of service provided in this industry.
I also have a patent pending on another system that extends service of cell phone providers, fm radio stations, uhf television, police radio, and mmwave services through fiber optic cables.
Once its approved I am hoping to start shipping equipment based off of it and upload some demo videos. Its stands to change the world as well as enable wireless multi-gigabit service everywhere.
Just noticed a mistake in here, When I say -65 becomes -64 dbm when the AGC is triggered it should have been -55 becomes -64dbm.
Hey Rob, Have you used any Mimosa equipment? I am a wisp for a campground with 365 potential clients using Ubiquiti AC m units connected to AC M Pros. I didn't set it up, it came this way. Looking for something that works. LOL
How did you make that WI-FI coverage? Please send me the site or application you used to do that on!
I used the ligowave link calculator, exported it to google earth format. Then edited the first site google earth file to include all of the other ones. The formatting was very simple and self evident.
www.ligowave.com/link-planner-calculator
In your experience with higher-frequency links, like 24/60 GHz, how much of an issue was rain fade? And on a related note, do you consider 60 GHz gigabit point to multipoint systems to be viable for residential and SMB customers, given the potential for rain fade to degrade the links?
Hey somehow I missed this. 60ghz is viable for short distances for PTMP especially when feed with fiber to the node wireless. Its very suitable to replace the drop from the pole to the house.
Theres rain fade calculators, I used 24ghz sparingly not wanting to risk outages from rainfade.
Hey, great video! I am thinking about setting up a greatly scalable wisp and I have some questions. Is there any way I can reach you directly?
There's an email address on my youtube page if you dig around. I think its in the about tab.
Did those base stations and CPE receivers have MIMO, secondly, I am trying to buy ip transit from Hurricane Electric which hosts in the same data center that I am at, in Djibouti, africa, I am trying to start wisp, i bought cisco asr 9001-s 60G bandwidth router and couple of cataylyst switches, I am trying to test an israeli wisp equipment manafcturer (Radwin) and I got an ASN and block of public ip addresses with /16, my question is the spectrum usage, I have no idea how such wireless technology works, what I know is installing multiple base stations at the same tower would lead interference and other major problems, 😅
these have 2 spatial streams (2x2 mimo). mimo is a marketing term, but effectively the radiowaves are polarized like light can be in a DWDM system to let multiple optical transceivers share a single fiber optic cable. They were unlicensed other than the 3.65ghz link.
Back in my day you reduced power and installed RF shades (like a lamp shade but for RF) to prevent the other equipment on the same tower from having signal overload and the signal getting distorted when one thing was transmitting and another receiving . (This cost you 64QAM and 256QAM when your other gear was transmitting if you didn't)
Now they have GPS sync on pretty much everything made for this so RX and TX doesn't happen at the same time on different antennas so its not an issue.
I still highly recommend the RF shades, I was using RF armor. They bolt on the antennas and block out most of the signals outside of the antenna beam. They can drop your noise floor more than 20dbm in high noise environments. They are especially key if you want winder bandwidth channels.
The next generation stuff with the new qualcomm 802.11BE stuff is going to be a real game changer.
The stuff in the Qualcomm dev portal says were getting standardized TDMA with Qboost. And there is an ability to offload some of the reid solomen encoding for error correction over to a second band (ie from 6ghz to 5ghz, or 2ghz). This lets it work better in high noise environments with a weaker signal and effectively eliminates the need for retansmits.
4 spatial streams is going to be the new norm for outdoor PTMP. beam forming seems to have been dropped because nobody got it working quite right other than cambium with medusa. (Their secret was to transmit out all antennas and rx where it had the highest signal level to the client).
You're getting right in before this stuff is about to hit a new high where you will even be able to interoperate your equipment from different manufactures with the same chips without losing TDMA support.
With consistent latency and speeds rivaled only by fiber optic cables.
Are u in canada.
And if so what permit u need to start and we're u get internet to buy to resell.
If you stay in unlicensed frequencies (5ghz, and 60ghz are the ones you want to look at), you dont need a permit. To buy resellable internet, call your local ISP and ask for a fiber DIA.
I have WISP 14 Meg Down / 3 Meg up and it is horrible...You cannot game because of 20% Packet Loss...It takes up to to 2 to 3 minutes to load even Yahoo Email . My speed test do not show too bad....but....the packet loss is pathetic and as a gamer I am totally frustrated as I simply cannot play. My Transmitter is on a 40' Tower with extension pole at the top and the Receiver , I was told was a few blocks away in line of sight. Is there anyone who can come and help . I am a 70 year old senior but still enjoy a competitive game. I live in Camborne Ontario.
Why did you get out of WISP and what do you do now??
We priced out service too low, our cost increased to provide services year after year and were too stubborn to raise the price. Then an opertunity to work for a famous insane person came around (John McAfee). I wasn't going to pass up on that. That ended up with me staring down the barrel of a gun after he got back on the MVDP. (A meth like bathsalt)
These days Hardware and software development. Some IT consulting too. A few wisps as clients.
edit: We sold the business and the guys who bought it tripled the price and became quite profitable.
What is the reason you are not a wisp any longer?
We priced out service too low, our cost increased to provide services year after year and were too stubborn to raise the price. Then an opertunity to work for a famous insane person came around (John McAfee). I wasn't going to pass up on that. That ended up with me staring down the barrel of a gun after he got back on the MVDP. (A meth like bathsalt)
These days Hardware and software development. Some IT consulting too. A few wisps as clients.
We sold the business and the guys who bought it tripled the price and became quite profitable.
Hi what router can use to start a wisp and to limit customer speed?
I used a Cisco VXR, but its since been replaced by the ASR series. You can pass AVpairs via your radius server in the attribute field. It is defined on a per user basis and impacts their PPPOE session.
If you don't want to use PPPOE you can police/rate limit on the vast majority of the layer 3 switches from Cisco such as the 3750/3850 and the nexus line.
This is done on a per IP address basis and requires you're using the switch as a layer 3 switch. (Router)
If you went to college did you get your whole CCNP training and CCSP or just CCNA ?
I can link you to some things if you want but they are useless if you don't have the training and experience to back it up.
There's also a number of less capable hobbyist platforms I can point you too if you don't have any Cisco training. (Im not talking about their consumer/small home office gear with web interfaces).
edit: Have you already sourced your fiber connection and ip address space ?
What do you have terminating your BGP session right now ?