Soldier Charged $4K for Gear Left During Afghan Withdrawal
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Maybe you were demonetized for promoting DIP.
Military can and will enforce border security but its politicians and Congress who are reluctant to use deadly force to achieve its goals of subterfuge and treason. So your wrong, its politics.
You’re getting hammered for promoting a BS story. Maybe you should do 10 minutes of research before promoting libs of TikTok.
Actually they could if there was a government in place that was willing to deal with it.
also the gear was destroyed so it was still a lost cause
I’ll say this as an Iraq/ Afghanistan combat veteran with 7 deployments, the worst enemy that I’ve ever faced is the United States government!!! Thank you to all of my fellow vets 🫡
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war is when your government tells you who your enemy is.
revolution is when you figure it out for yourself
Thanks Brother...
The worst enemy to have is incompetent leadership always has been always will be.
@@LrdBxRckThat's your government👽
This is how we support the troops. Then people act surprised that nobody wants to enlist.
On top of that, the U.S. spent 20 years "nation building" in Afghanistan, under the auspices of "liberating the Afghan people from tyranny and oppression". The majority of the Afghan people wanted American forces to leave their country the moment the first wave of troops arrived on their soil.
You’re being fed lies. This soldier is nothing more than an irresponsible liar.
@@user-assoul_possibly. It could just be incompetent
@@klaiken989Jake Broe did a great breakdown of it.
They are doing this on purpose. They want us weak. Globalists don’t want resistance.
“a private who loses a rifle suffers far greater consequences than a general who loses a war.”
- Lt. Col. Paul Yingling
Can't imagine leaving over 85 billion dollars worth of gear to the enemy
Almost seems like it didn't need to be that way. And it was deliberate.
The Afghan army ran away from the Taliban ,, drumph released those Taliban from jail !
Well you don't have to imagine it, it actually happened!😞
@@catherineharris4746 pmsl ,, yea it was nowhere near that buddy 🤣 , anything tech wise that was abandoned by the Afghan chicken army was made useless by the just in case American rear guard American spook operatives !
@sircolinlesleyrowling what proof do you have. You are calling this soldier a liar. Wow
The Government: "leave all of the equipment in Afghanistan."
Also the government: "WhY dID yOu LeAvE YoUr EqUiPmEnT iN AfGhAnIsTaN?"
Traitor Joe left 86 billion dollars worth of US equipment that fell right into the hands to our enemy .
havent seen anybody typed like that since the AOL chat room days.
@shoeprano27 where have you been the past 5 years? That typing has been popular since the SpongeBob meme 😂
@shoeprano27 where have you been the past 5 years? That typing has been popular since the SpongeBob meme 😂
@@MilkN8utterCZcams still hasn’t fixed the double send comments? Nice
In the eyes of a young person considering enlisting, seeing our government leave billions of dollars worth of equipment to the Taliban and then charging a young soldier for this definitely makes you reconsider.
Be an officer. Enroll in ROTC to earn a commission. Officers are treated way better than enlisted soldiers. If you can suck up four years of college indoctrination, the return on investment is ENORMOUS as an officer. Most cadets are getting one of their top branches these days (infantry, armor, aviation... those are branches). You have a more personal relationship with your branch manager, and you can influence change in your organization. However, enlisted soldiers are at the whim of the Army for most of their careers, at least until they pin E-7 or E-8. Pick a super cheap college, like Black Hills State, Winona State, or Chadron State.... or some other cheap state university. Their ROTC programs are excellent, and you can get a scholarship through ROTC that will cover tuition, or possibly even allow you to pocket a little cash if you use the stipend, rather than the tuition & fees option. You can apply on an ROTC scholarship during senior year of high school (until mid February). But, you can also apply on campus.
Wait until the full story comes out. The big green weenie is true but this story makes no sense. Chances are, he screwed up and is seeking an easy way out.
@@user-lh8ct7zi7p for discussions sake lets say he did screw up. The fact that the US government screwed up, left millions if not billions of dollars worth of equipment over their for the Taliban, and is making him pay (while those at the upper end face no consequences) is messed up.
So the thought it might cost you money is more likely to make you not join than the FACT that all Americas wars have been illegal and murderous for the local innocents.. nice... 😒
@@hobgoblin4614 The US government always leaves behind billions every where they go. Nothing new. However individual accountability is something too. Ever see how much stuff soldiers lose because they are careless? Hold them accountable. Not my job to hold the brass accountable. Unless you include voting. Don't complain to me. complain to those that can make a change. Now, try to get thru my CIF lane. No-go. Not clean enough.
They left BILLIONS behind for the Afghans, and now they charging this guy?? 😂😂😂
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Love the mini talk about the VA hospital system. It's never changed no matter how many promises were made otherwise. God bless our veterans, they deserve better.
The VA is a government within itself, and no President (who even cares to do so), has ever been able to do much in the way of changing that VERY corrupt bureaucracy.
Like many of the Alphabet Agencies, the Veterans Administration needs a top to bottom cleaning, with most of the upper (and a great many of the lower) echelons being fired, and never be allowed to work in any form of government again.
It's purely disgusting how the guys, and gals, who gave up so much to protect the rest of us, are treated by these corrupt officials.
This needs to be the new Army recruiting campaign
"be all you can be and pay us when ya leave"
Couldn't be any worse than their current campaign.
Be all you can be means never stop thinking for yourself. Trust is limited. Be not the fool. If you think it is an unlawful order don’t obey it!
@@JF-fx2qvyou're funny...
Believe me the younger generation knows how crooked the government is
This how we treat our veterans? This is disgusting.
No, this is a guy trying to get out of responsibility. He was using training plates in Afghanistan?? That seems unlikely. He claims the gear was gear he left in Afghanistan, but in 4 years he was in several areas. Other troops aren't paying for gear left. It seems unlikely he is telling the truth
@@corvanna4438maybe he wasn't using it obviously. They were probably in a C bag or something. Of course, I'm just speculating. Just like you.
@@corvanna4438 man idk how long you were in, but if you didn't see guys genuinely get screwed over like this, its cause you were looking at your own feet the whole time.
@@bobsaggater3454 Ryan Mcbeth covers this well.
@@bobsaggater3454this is the truth
There are some Active Duty service members and veterans who are questioning this soldier's story. One of the reasons, is because nobody else in his company is reporting a similar claim about being charged for the gear they left behind.
Ryan McBeth has a good breakdown about how this probably E4 Mafia nonsense being used in misinformation circles online.
Good insight. There is probably more to the story.
Thank you. Ryan McBeth also made a clip questioning this.
It's frustrating that people never question these things, especially from tiktok and from a guy asking for money.
Don't forget also him claiming he left training plates in Afghanistan.
If you're wearing training plates in a combat zone you've got a lot worse problems going on 😂
Anyone who has ever served, knows this happens ... especially when you get careless like this guy.
There is SO much he's not telling us.
The fact that his training plates are listed (those are handed in prior to deployment ffs) tied with the fact he's trying to blame everyone else, tells us he lack self discipline.
@@CamAteUrKFCthis. Can we get more attention on this please? Why does he get a pass just because he's peddling a narrative people want to hear?
@@Skyried Ryan McBeth has a pretty good breakdown on this. He does a lot of videos about DIP (Deceptive Imagery Persuasion).
An E-4 lying about lost gear and trying to put the blame off onto somebody else? Call me shocked and surprised at the same time..
@@beldinalanti1850this guy is lying to the American people for a quick buck
It's definitely an exit fee for not re enlisting
green weanie inserted
Did you not hear they are now trying to recruit unvaccinated soldiers they kicked out now.
@@JamesonsTravels The guy is scamming and you fell for it.
@@williamhamill813 Explain. 🤨
@@williamhamill813doesn’t take away the fact we left weapons to terrorist
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A no win situation. If he protests too much when it's happening he'll be threatened with insubordination.
nothing new here except in the context of what biden left its very fck'd u
what are you even talking about lol@@JamesonsTravels
@@RealistOmega are you unaware of the amount of equipment left behind during the Afghanistan withdrawal?
@@RealistOmega do you have a problem understanding English, Einstein ?
@@bmjv772 wrongs don’t make a right. He knew better and should’ve AT LEAST requested a hand receipt.
Notice that there aren’t a hundred other men in the same situation, and just him?
This is INFURIATING!
Our government left Billions in Military Equipment during the Afghan, Charlie-Fox Withdrawal. Who will be charged for this gear?
And these people in charge of the military wonder why younger people don’t want to join the military, look what they do to their own, our government is a disgrace
"All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.”
~ Orwell
And people do nothing.
@@Gonzo.S.Thompsonthey always do nothing, because our scenario of revolution, to most people, is not worth the effort, when we consider what we DO have, we live 1984, but nobody is ready to let go of the hand of the government, and modern society
"why does nobody wanna join the military"
1: you get screwed mentally
2:you get screwed financially
3:you get screwed physically
Ryan McBeth youtuber did an excellent video on this guy. All "is not" as it seems. He was a soldier and is responsible for his gear and should have made sure a FLIPL for the equipment was process 2 years prior, not at the last minute just before you separate. But you are correct the optic on this "one sided" surface do not look good.
Really? A Specialist is required to initiate a FLIPL?? Nah. That's not how that works. Commanders are required to initiate the FLIPL....not junior enlisted. Ridiculous statement.
Isnt all of that equipment paid for by us taxpayers? Can you imagine leaving $10B in equipment in Afghanistan then getting billed for leaving small items by someone who didnt even pay for it?
As a Vietnamese man who has grandma used to serve in NVA and uncle serving for PAVN (People's Army of Vietnam) currently, this is absolutely disgusting. No soldiers are forced to pay government's mistakes while their government can get away with it. No wonder why US Army is complaining about their recruitment is going downhill.
Call it what ever you want, but above all it's just standard practice more than anything. Just the way things are.
@@knschwaz2597If that’s just the way things are then the US army deserves to lose recruits.
@@knschwaz2597sounds like slavery but with more steps
~RICK SANCHEZ ~
Sound like your government has accountability.
@@knschwaz2597"just the way things are" in the usa. Nowhere else. But..does that case mean joesama biden will personally pay foe all the equipment and weapons he gave the taliban?
last year, my son was approached by several recruiters - He told them he would join when military decides to actually takes care of its soldiers instead of the "shitshow it is now."
He’s enlisted so he cannot be charged more than one month base pay. His statement on the DD-200 should note that he was ordered to leave it. Then refuse to pay, tell the Acountabde Officer (AO) that you should not have to pay and a Financial Liability Investigation for Property Lost should be conducted. AO appoints a Financial Liability Officer (FLO) to conduct the investigation. AO is the decider but this will all have to go through the Staff Judge Advocate.
It's clearly equipment he lost after Afghan (training plates etc). Look at the list!! Also two years without an equipment check?
No good deed goes unpunished. Some young up and coming terrorist was denied their gear FOR FREE and he needs to pay for it. smh
"Combat Loss". Fill out the form (DA Form 200) and have it signed. We lost all sorts of stuff and never got charged. If your Unit pretends they don't know what "Combat Loss" is, file an IG complaint with a DA Form 1559.
@@coreydailey4939 he failed to fill out the forms. His Unit failed to advise him of the forms.
Ah that is probably the most current information... times have changed since the 1990's. Good advice!
@@hawkuser604 we filled out forms in the 1980s after deployments and had them signed off. Make friends with Supply, Admin, Motor-T, Cooks, Comms, everyone. You never know when they'll come in handy.
@@coreydailey4939he was a private and fairly new to the army when he deployed. You think he is going to know that and not just trust whatever his leadership tells him?
@@lucusceballos181 I’m assuming he didn’t inform his squad leader or platoon sergeant that his gear didn’t make it on the aircraft.
Having to pay back $4000 in gear because he had to leave it back in Afghanistan and yet what about the billions of dollars military equipment the US left for the Taliban to then take over with. When my dad retired all he left with was a couple flight jackets, four flight suits, a flight bag, a C-130H dash one flight manual and personal uniforms.
This situation is lacking context, of course. He should have requested a hand receipt.
Funny that it’s just him apparently, right?
Considering that you constantly hand out stuff to such guys, you should have gotten used to this a long time ago. This is a good tradition of Western people.
@@jasonbisdead Nah, it isn't funny at all, actually. This regime leaves billion upon billions of equipment in country and this dude is on the hook for $4k? GTFOutta here
@@Nightdiver20, Have you ever wondered why the regime does this?
@@ahoramazda6864well America waste over 800 billion a year. So America alone spends almost more money on warfare compared to all other countries combined
I’m a supply NCO. All it takes is a MFR, FLIPL, and sworn statements for something like this. ( from a stand point ) there’s so many things wrong with this bullshit. Really pisses me off
Thanks for your service, were gonna reward you with debt. NEVER ENLIST.
My father-in-law was one of the last men off the beach at Dunkirk, he left by the skin of his teeth, without his rifle and some equipment. He was charged for some of the equipment, my wife has the receipt for what he was charged for. So this happened 83 years ago, seems nothing changes.
Probably worse feeling knowing your own government was leaving $85 billion in equipment to the enemy.
Wow that's harsh! I've seen pictures of what was left behind at Dunkirk and whatever your father-in-law left behind was VERY small and insignificant. As you posted, nothing changes...
Yeah, and it’ll be used as a political point against the current administration, which is so incorrect and short sighted. This is much deeper issue that has been going on much longer, it’s just being seen more now.
Geez you know you’d think people would have some humanity and not care about this when it was either the gear or the lives of the soldiers. Gear can easily be replaced or recovered later but a soldiers life can not once that man or woman dies that’s it you’d think they would do well to remember that but it seems to be the perennial issue with government in any form and throughout history to only care about the perpetuation of the state and the power and wealth of those who run it rather than it’s citizens whom it is supposed to serve. These people need to held to account and voted out of office or put in jail for the things they rain down on their own people. It’s disgusting
Wow….now that’s a load of bull.
Don't worry, 10% of your money is going to the "big guy" and he really appreciates it.
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Over thirty years ago met a Falklands Vet, who was issued a Individual weapon site ( equivalent to a starlight scope)
On the third day on the Falklands got involved in fire fight, and a 7.62 round past through the IWS.
Spent the next three weeks carrying a busted scope on his rifle, as he had signed it out the armoury, and did not want to pay £2,500 for losing it.
Same in all armed forces of the world, whatever Century you are in !
He was a fool to do that then if the story is true. However, think on. Why would you carry on in a war with a busted scope? You need that scope to carry out your job, if it is busted, you cannot do your job. The story is BS. He is BSing.
@@cplcabsCan tell you never served in military regular or reservist.
CFAV at best
It’s his own fault for not being responsible with his own gear he was issued nuff said.
he was ordered to leave it
@@INFOWARSUSA several leaders already came out and said the guy was irresponsible and mishandled his own equipment…. Notice how no one else is in this position and for the ones that are is because they weren’t keeping up with the equipment they are issued…. And that’s any branch really when you are issued stuff it isn’t yours….. your renting it for the duration of your contract… so when it’s time to return it you better have it or your paying for it…. Many people go through this especially in the army because this equipment isn’t getting thrown away it’s getting handed to the next guy who needs it… they recycle a lot of gear it’s always been that way. Be responsible.
@@darthxeno3434 Typical liberal spreading misinfo and liking his own comment
@@darthxeno3434 irresponsible and mishandled his own equipment how does that factor into him being ordered to leave it behind?
@@jamesbrown5262 Because he wasn't ordered to leave it. My younger brother was in that withdraw and wasn't ordered to leave his equipment nor was he billed for anything.
My son was hit with an IED IN SADER CITY, IRAQ. DURING RECOVERY AT FT. HOOD, he received a notice on his disbursing chit that his pay way docked for the personal equipment “blown” off his body and destroyed. Later a large package delivered to his door contained the burned and riddled, blood stained gear.
That is an outrage 🔥
I'm surprised that he wasn't charged for shipping!
Well turn it in then, sir.
Then he just needs to turn that package in.
That’s sickening
"They say that in the Army, the pay is mighty fine...They give you a hundred dollars, and take back $99!" Central Issue Facility at FT BRAGG gets you every single time.
Had to call that at MCOLS, except it an Air Force Version of it.
"They say that in the Air Force the biscuits mighty fine... One rolled of the table and killed a friend of mine..."...
Yep! The 82 inches
Why did he have training plates in a war zone.something wrong with this story
The sad thing is this guy could end up with a dishonorable discharge for speaking out on the lost equipment.
We left a 38000 acre base full of equipment, a base that is bigger than most towns, and this is what they worry about
Went to a military funeral yesterday for a guy who had 2 tours in Afghanistan all a local man did was complain the funeral had cancelled his meeting...
The audacity of some people to die when you have meetings is staggering
sound about right
You can thank Obama for that attitude towards the military. He didn't have the balls to serve but he sure knew how to disrespect.
@@senosabnot usa pal
@@plumduff3303 still, he brought an attitude to the world stage. Disrespect is contagious among the ignorant, and when a world leader displays no respect, it catches on.
It’s a tale as old as time. The golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules. Our Government is a complete disgrace when it comes to how they treat our soldiers and vets.
And recruiters wonder why their numbers are so low. This is a great example why nobody wants to join.
Nobody wants to fight for a dishonest and untrustworthy government.
As a small Aussie who had family serve that's disgusting for a government to even think about giving him a bill
@mrozboss your country is trying to give a veteran life in prison for exposing a war criminal who shot and killed civilians in the Middle East….” As an Australian” doesn’t mean much just saying
The thing is... there is alot of theft
so how do you counter that? You make it harder to steal. That's fine. But the problem some in the military have is that they are not able to account for equipment that was left behind in time of war, attack, retreat or FOB theft. So they go after the last one assigned the stuff.
BUT the good news is you can have this overturned.
My son served and this happened to him when he was asked to provide the stuff given to him but he was air lifted from war site so he didn't know what happened to it. We had to write letters, emails and make calls to get it straightened out. Some have to go to court to get the money back if it's directly removed from a deposit account.
But this is the process -
because of theft
@@connorlyons2376 What are you talking about? Do you have link or something I'm interested?
I’m not trying to be rude but THAT’S the complaint you have with all the Australian government has done to its people over the last few years? They essentially treat you as though you’re still a prison colony. 🤷♂️ Clean your own house first before making such remarks about others.
@@connorlyons2376Like that's a uniquely Australian thing, USA is still gunning for Julian Assange for exposing war crimes
Not sure how many caught what he said about serving his country vs serving our government. When you serve our country, you serve the people. When you serve the government, you serve the corrupt powerbase whose only goal is to control us and destroy our lives. This man has honor and integrity.
None of our military serve the people, they serve only the government and the military industrial complex war machine, the only people that seek to destroy our liberty are within our own country in dc which the military serves and protects, they allowed a coup of their own duely elected commander in chief, they absolutely do not serve the people of this country.
Corporations buy congress, and congress dictates to the military and sends them off to steal resources. Where's the patriotism in that?
Did you caught the part where two years later it was still missing. He got it replaced then sold it as he got ready to EAS, and hope to claim it was the same missing gear
You catch the part were he claims he lost training body in a combat zone?
Amen!
Ryan Macbeth will pay the bill if this guy’s telling the truth
Wonder if any of the Taliban will be charged for any equipment they lose?
And they wonder why retainment & recruitment is in the gutter
partially due to everything being on video. most of the stuff is old news just documented in 2023
Refuse to sign the 362. Force them to do the FLIPL. More than likely, your CIF is just going to drop the gear off the books. Worst case scenario, they charge for one month's base pay split over two months.
good advice.
This is 100% the soldiers fault. There’s a lot of the story he’s left out.
@@jasonbisdeadReally? Do you know the soldier personally to make such a definitive statement?
It is widely documented that troops were told to drop gear. That's on Command, not the grunts.
@@jasonbisdead Hahahahahaha! WHEW, someone missed the news 2 years ago!
How are soldiers charged anything by the govt? it’s my belief that no soldier that saw combat should pay for anything ever again.
The Army Brass have really caved in this time. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It is just another reason to not vote for the people responsible for this kind nonsense. Good job.
there were plenty of reasons not to vote for these people way back in 2019 as well...
both main parties do that. so it means really research the candidates, no matter what party
Lol you guys think voting actually isn’t rigged 😂
Which army brass? Don’t they still have tons of vacant positions because of republican Tommy Tuberville?
@@Caveman125haha yeah most Americans believe in the integrity of our elections. Seems to be the losers of the last one having a hard time with it.
If you aren't on a government watch list. You aren't doing your job.
It’s weird that the gear he left behind in Afghanistan was training gear that he wouldn’t have taken to Afghanistan in the first place.
what's the difference?
One word… CONGRESSIONAL!
He needs to file a Congressional complaint and make leadership file a FLIPL.
Who is going to be accountable for the murdering our Soldiers?
of course no one charge.
@JamesonsTravels One day, hopefully, the truth will come to light, and Joe will be held accountable.
@@ChiefGibson Okay, I'll bite. What are you on about?
My unit was permanently missing a Kevlar. So whenever a new guy got to the unit he would give his to the guy about to get out, and it was just an endless cycle. Probably still going on today😂
meanwhile supply depots burn excess in September.
Crazy!
@JamesonsTravels civilians actually ran our gear and CIF turn in at that duty station so there was no making friends with them either.
Our unit must have gotten the extra one...
@@Rasdawg915yep, same, all the men were prior service old Mexican dudes and all the women were black
As much as we pay in taxes for a big military budget,why does are soldiers get charged for anything.!?
Those ''leaders'' don't deserve their soldiers.
This happens to one of my buddies in my last unit. He got the bill and was so pissed he just broke into the supply depot after hours and tactically acquired whatever he could to turn back into them and make the $3000 charges go away
That's kind of funny
Good for him
Well, the government steals it from the taxpayers so why not! Tit for tat!
@@PeterAngles-jq7grlmao what are you talking about it's fucking hilarious
@@halonut96I’ll take things that never happened for $3,000.
So when is Obiden going to pay back for all the gear they left behind in Afghanistan ?
Everything he said was spot on they don’t give a flying fook about our service members
Thank you for posting this. Maybe, just maybe, this will help things change.
Ryan McBeth did an analysis of the video and concluded the lost equipment most likely wasn’t lost in Afghanistan.
This is how the military helps recruiting by letting everyone know not to join. Super smart!
A lot of us who aren't recruiters would tell you not to join.. what do you mean 😂
Thank you for showing us what is really going on.
That was the best anti enlisted video. For $3500 the army just lost 1,000s of volunteers. FJB
That 4 grand needs to come out of Joe's account. He can cover that easily with one of his Chinese checks.
10% to the big guy
This isn't a Joe problem. This is a problem of every political side. Left, right and center. This is a problem that has gone back for an extremely long time. This is a problem of the American people not paying attention when they vote. Ask any 20 random people, not your friends and family, random people, where their politician stands on the Patriot Act, or the VA and then look at the politicians actual voting record. Those 20 people will either say they don't know, or will just be wrong. Until we start voting with actual facts and logic, this will continue. Anyone who says "oh this will be solved under (Trump, or Biden, or any other politician)" and honestly believes that if the ONE person gets in then things will change, is just lying to themselves.
@@andrewhemphill8999I definitely want Trump over any of the Democrats but you are right the problem will not be solved by one man. Just like Trump thought he could drain the swamp then got into office only to realize it's a fucking ocean of bureaucrats , a cabal that have been around for a long time controlling the federal government.
@@andrewhemphill8999What wars were happening when Trump was President though? Zero.
@@JamesonsTravels This is a scam
And the government left hundreds of billions of dollars in choppers and hummers and everything else for the taliban to get and that's okay? Us paxpayers want our money back we paid for all that back.
Wow ! Can we now bill the government for all the military equipment left behind in Afghanistan.
This is outrageous!! Im fed up with our government being corrupt. We have spent the same giving to ukraine than we did in the afghan war. How does that add up?
My son left the Army almost 15 yrs ago. Was a medic. They claimed that his and his fellow soldiers did not turn in their gear. They took basically every cent away from them all that was owed at the completion of their deployment.
He shoulda said something cool out the door. Some sh*t like
“ keep the devils lettuce”
& they WONDER Y recruitment is DOWN(except 4 the Corp,theirs is up!!)
Gear turn-in in the Army is all done through Central Issuing Facility and it's run by civilians. It's not uncommon for them to be rude to LTCs, much less a SPC. There's no "making friends" with them. The most you can do is be polite and organized when you're turning your stuff in and hope fortune smiles on you.
Spot on. It's worse than the DMV.
Any office run by civilians on a military base is an absolute disaster. They hire from the bottom of the barrel and it’s nearly impossible to fire them once they’re a DoD civilian.
@@letzrock1675 Usually they are retired military.
SOME of that gear. Not all of it. Some, like NODs and comms are issued at unit level by S-4 or arms room, just like the weapon.
You are correct!
Wouldn’t it have been prudent for him to take this up with his CO the second he returned stateside and not 3 years later?
Politicians prove every chance they get that they don't care about you
The withdrawal in which we left modern equipment for people that only used AK’s? Thanks Brandon
and if people dont vote we get more of biden
@@JamesonsTravelsregardless if we vote or not they'll find a way to rig it
@@JamesonsTravels I'd bet quite a bit we get more of the same regardless. You can't vote your way out of tyranny.
@@jacobgalfi1420so fking vote anyway. It only takes a few minutes out of your day. The more people that vote the more difficult it makes it for them to rig it.
@@jacobgalfi1420get involved to get people registered to vote if you really want to make a change. Help with local campaigns and doing some ground work. Can’t play the game if you’re sitting in the bleachers.
Your life is not worth wasting for Uncle Sam, he will bill you for your service.
How about 17-1/2 years kicked out of military after being found innocent following a 2 year investigation.
Bro this is you're best show !!! Please keep spending the truth .Hey we thank you all we think all the services ones for the services!!!! Thank you don't let them keep your spirits down.Every where you go you are loved and they can't take that away from you 🎉
They're charging him a petty amount (to the Army) for gear he was ordered to leave behind. If he said hey I'm trans give me surgery, they'd be taking him to $30k surgery in a limo.
Once again as a United States Navy veteran THIS IS EMBARRASSING 😡🇺🇸.
Have you heard about the SS Liberty it will shock you even more. Thanks for serving
The Navy has a shocking record for screwing personel over
The army is the same
Taking a training vest and plates over seas and losing them is more embarrassing.
The guy most likely forgot that he lost a whole bunch of stuff and now is going to be court marshaled when a commander sees his video.
Ryan McBeth did a very thorough investigation and concluded the guy is in a lot of trouble.
It’s always been this way, this is the world we have fought for. You are a slave
Look at the list of stuff he’s being charged for. As a United States Navy veteran how are you not intelligent enough to look at the list? What fool is taking training vest plates over to a war zone? Come on, man. You’re being played.
Angels be with you always Sir
He should call his Congressman and or his state Senators and ask for help document the orders to leave equipment behind.
Gee, why on Earth is the military falling short of recruitment quotas?
This happened two years ago, and no one noticed that he was missing nearly $4000 worth of gear? Something does not add up.
They knew. They just waited for the right time to screw him.
They knew. It's not their problem.
At least this former uniform understands the difference between seving the government and serving the country. Hes already more vise than 99% of veterans.
This requires national exposure & condemnation. This is wrong on so many levels & is absurd upon consideration of the Billion$$$ in equipment that military brass left for our enemy to use against us!!! 🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡
Joined July 2018 straight out of high school & got out August 2022. Currently in the IRR & if they want me back call a swat team on me.
Praying for this brother.
Careful, they will take that as a challenge. :D lol
Don't go on social media! Write your local congressman, and get a civilian lawyer.
he can't afford a lawyer. come on
Most lawyers won't charge, unless your gonna win.
And very few congressmen would care. Even the Repubs, who you’d think would care. They don’t, because it’s a Uniparty. My comment will probably be censored for saying “Uniparty.”
@@JamesonsTravelsgood call. And a lawyer would do NOTHING
@@andrewcanady6644. Yep, BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES SUCK !!!
This is unreal!! They leave entire squadrons of planes, artillary, basically all the equipment you need to start a army behind and thats ok!! But charge a soldier fir what he left😡😡
And this administration is surprised that every branch can't reach its recruiting baseline.
Our gov. has gone far and above DISGUTING!
We returned from Afghanistan and processed thru Ft Bliss for turn in, physicals, etc. Ft Bliss had us, our entire company, put all gear in shopping carts and put them in big storage building to do turn in later they they would take care of. About three months later we are having a big layout inspection and our supply people told us we were missing gear and had to pay. Statements were taken, investigation done and no one had to pay anything.
The guy is trying to make a few bucks he will regret it.
@@williamhamill813what do you mean?
Yeah, something about this story is off. He would have needed new gear to be issued after returning home two years ago. And nobody asked him what happened to his original gear at the time?
That's normal for a normal deployment. They were worldwide rapid deployed. There would have been no proper in processing and we know the evacuees from Afghanistan did not get a proper out processing.
@@txsicshooter maybe so, but its two years later and the guy has all that kit apparently missing. Has he been under a rock since then?
Real good recruiting tactics America . What are we doing?😂
If anything, The taxpayers should be reimbursed for everything left in Afghanistan during that withdrawl.
Thank you all for your service, first and foremost, if any of you served. And the pentagon can’t find 3 trillion dollars?! Come on man! FJB.
We know where the money went because it is still going there..
Donald Rumsfeld gave a speech on 9/10/01 about 2trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon. The next day an incident occurred and nobody ever mentioned that missing cash again. When it comes to holding anybody accountable it is like playing 3 card Monte with a guy named Slick.
As E-4 Mafia, I'd replace the gear from an officer's gear.
Theft is not the answer.
@@MS-1994tell that to congress
@@MS-1994 Yes it is
@@MS-1994It's called "reappropriation".
@@hthompson2237 two wrongs don't make a right.
No way he had TRAINING PLATES in Afghanistan, he lost them and is trying to blame the government.
What are training plates? We never had them!
You have to follow up when this kind of thing happens. Stay in your PSGs ear, remind him over and over about it. They have a lot going on, especially after a deployment, and it's up to you to make sure you get taken care of. Always look out for Number 1!
Ryan McBeth has a really good breakdown of this. One of the line items on that page is training SAPIS. He would not have been issued training plates in Afghanistan with the 82nd.
or a Heisman, lol.
Ryan Mcbeth's video is correct. This E4 mafia member was trying to pull a quick venmo scam with this sob video.
This page has always pushed flat out misinformation. It was no surprise Ryan’s video was completely opposite what Jameson has uploaded.
My buddy was in the withdrawal and went with training plates
@thehunter9149 was your Buddy with one of the best and most prestigious units in the army? What was their MOS? There's lots of factors there. But this is the internet, so I'm expecting seal team 9 to be your answer
Yes that’s what my uncle told me to do make plenty of friends while you are in the military trust me.
always make supply clerk a drinking buddy
supply, cooks, commo and S1 are some of the best friends to have
Shame of the decade besides the lost warriors we had over there.. leaving all that equipment.. and the service dogs behind. What a sick leadership we have
I’ve seen some other content contradicting at least part of this E-4’s story, such as not turning in “training plates” for his plate carrier, etc., that he wouldn’t have even taken to Afghanistan, meaning he lost them didn’t think they’d care.