I was at this event and I still frequently think about eisenman’s answer to the intern question all these years later. What an evasive and dishonest answer. He’s smart enough to know he’s wrong, and you can hear it in his scrambled defense. Fuck any practice that is built on unpaid labor. Especially starchitects with multiple homes and insanely top shelf lives.
People shouldn't celebrate architect's who allow this practice. It is a slap in the face to the profession and under-values our work. Under-valuing architect's work is professional suicide.
Its complicated, sometimes they pay with the experience of being there not only with money... the curricular value is enormous when you work in that offices... im not saying i support unpaid labor, im just saying that there are other payment methods.
An interesting conversation. It's the first time I see Jacques talk for longer periods of time. He seems to be the most interesting person at the table. Well moderated.
This is a really essential talk about the various concepts of architecture, and I agree that it's well moderated and it is an important juxtaposition of two major architects. But I'm so annoyed that you record this - as i interpret it - for the purpose of publishing, and then you don't plan for the sound to export properly. Some crucial points actually get lost, most importantly the key part where the audience joins the dialogue. I really enjoy your videos, but it seems to be a recurrent problem. And it's not just your productions, I see it a lot elsewhere too. So, a bit of formal criticism, but nevertheless, thank you for your good work.
44:51 you don't want to read the same book . This is boredom and persian culture is anti-boredom . In young cultures boredom is problem but in the old cultures boredom is not a problem when you go under dome of the great abbasi mosque and see the pattern and hidden geometry behind it in unconscious way showing it self to you and you can sit there and watch it for hours and hours and don't become so bore . I believe the cultures must meet each other . Understand the logics and become unified .
PE trys to win a childish discussion (you do this and that i do this, like pointing the shit we dont care, or using words like right or wrong...), and hides (i dont know what?!) behind jokes JH never stop thinking and tryin to be honest
39:20 Stop the discussion, everyone go out and change the world. THIS IS IT. This is the only thing that needed to have been said, yet there is 1 H and 35 minutes of bullshit around it. Architecture (aka design) as a new language, to take over for the languages of math as math took over from the written and spoken word. This new language of design will allow us to answer deep seeded esoteric questions: What is consciousness, why do we need self esteem. It will allow us to discover and understand higher level principles that we don’t currently have the ability to understand through our current language of mathematics.
This is very surprising to know that PE is so closed-mind. All of his actions are just trying to point out that he's right and he's win. Like you talk to an arrogant old man. Not Intellectual at all.
I was at this event and I still frequently think about eisenman’s answer to the intern question all these years later. What an evasive and dishonest answer. He’s smart enough to know he’s wrong, and you can hear it in his scrambled defense. Fuck any practice that is built on unpaid labor. Especially starchitects with multiple homes and insanely top shelf lives.
People shouldn't celebrate architect's who allow this practice. It is a slap in the face to the profession and under-values our work. Under-valuing architect's work is professional suicide.
Its complicated, sometimes they pay with the experience of being there not only with money... the curricular value is enormous when you work in that offices... im not saying i support unpaid labor, im just saying that there are other payment methods.
An interesting conversation. It's the first time I see Jacques talk for longer periods of time. He seems to be the most interesting person at the table. Well moderated.
Horrible audio
Thank you for sharing this interesting conversation!
Thanks for your videos!! But the audio is really bad!
AMAZING DEBATE !
Wo ist Mies...the open corner for instance?
what were they talking about?
This is a really essential talk about the various concepts of architecture, and I agree that it's well moderated and it is an important juxtaposition of two major architects. But I'm so annoyed that you record this - as i interpret it - for the purpose of publishing, and then you don't plan for the sound to export properly. Some crucial points actually get lost, most importantly the key part where the audience joins the dialogue. I really enjoy your videos, but it seems to be a recurrent problem. And it's not just your productions, I see it a lot elsewhere too.
So, a bit of formal criticism, but nevertheless, thank you for your good work.
Good Job Harvard!
no se oye
44:51 you don't want to read the same book . This is boredom and persian culture is anti-boredom . In young cultures boredom is problem but in the old cultures boredom is not a problem when you go under dome of the great abbasi mosque and see the pattern and hidden geometry behind it in unconscious way showing it self to you and you can sit there and watch it for hours and hours and don't become so bore . I believe the cultures must meet each other . Understand the logics and become unified .
PE trys to win a childish discussion (you do this and that i do this, like pointing the shit we dont care, or using words like right or wrong...), and hides (i dont know what?!) behind jokes
JH never stop thinking and tryin to be honest
Uttarayan eisenman thinks by disagreeing aloud
This video completely changed my mind about Eisenman, his childish ways of answering and ignorant opinions was shocking
39:20 Stop the discussion, everyone go out and change the world.
THIS IS IT. This is the only thing that needed to have been said, yet there is 1 H and 35 minutes of bullshit around it.
Architecture (aka design) as a new language, to take over for the languages of math as math took over from the written and spoken word.
This new language of design will allow us to answer deep seeded esoteric questions: What is consciousness, why do we need self esteem. It will allow us to discover and understand higher level principles that we don’t currently have the ability to understand through our current language of mathematics.
Great debate. Eisenman can't touch social issues and architecture, if he maintains that fuckshit answer on upaid interns.
*BLACK/WHITE? WHITE/BLACK? NO ORANGE!!!!!*
This is very surprising to know that PE is so closed-mind. All of his actions are just trying to point out that he's right and he's win. Like you talk to an arrogant old man. Not Intellectual at all.