An Armenian Genocide Survivor's Story | Lucine Z. Kinoian | TEDxBergenCommunityCollege
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Lucine Z. Kinoian’s talk will be on the circumstance and luck that allowed her paternal great-grandparents to survive the Armenian Genocide in spite of the demoralizing suffering they endured, and the looming, inevitable fate that took the lives of their relatives and loved ones. Kinoian’s talk will focus specifically on her great-grandmother, whose story is that of abduction and abuse. Kinoian believes that who we are as individuals is a product of all those who came before us, and that we have an obligation to ourselves, to our society, and to the world at large to know, acknowledge, and learn from the stories of our past. Over a century has passed since the events that mark the start of the Armenian Genocide, and in telling her great- grandmother’s story, Kinoian hopes to be the voice of a generation that is long gone and in danger of being forgotten.
Lucine Z. Kinoian is a third-generation Armenian-American who is active in the respective New York and New Jersey Armenian communities. She holds a Bachelor's degree in Comparative Literature and Philosophy from Rutgers University and a Master’s degree in English Education from Columbia University. Kinoian currently works as an English teacher in the Tenafly, NJ school district.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx
They have no problems condemning the Germans and Japanese so why do they have problems here?
Because Turkey is important geopolitically, it is near Russia - ideal for missile bases and at the crossroads of Europe and Asia. It is large and industrialized hence they want it as ally although it has a plethora of immoral hiddeous atrocities troughout it's history.
Ivan54321 AND they have the fifth largest military in the world...
@@johnnysomething153 9th
Because Islam is being used by the globalists to created chaos.
They want to keep Islam in the picture so they can use it in future.
At least germans don't deny it. Nor did japan ever make it illegal to talk about it.
This made me cry,lucine, I am grand daughter of orphaned Armenian babies. 2 of them. They all passed away and im finding out my roots via dna tests for the last 2 years. They kept some of those orphaned kids to raise as Turkish after their families were killed. I see Aleppo to Marsellies all the locations our Armenian relatives lived. May our suffered ancestors rest in Heaven. Thank you for sharing your story
On the 106th anniversary of the vicious slaughter of 22,900 innocent Muslims at the provincial center of the City of Van on April 21, 1915 by mutinous Armenian gangs (Hunchak, Dashnak and alike), We, The Turkish People around the world, would like to commemorate our martyrs with compassion and love, bowing down in front of their honorable, loving memory with respect.
The VAN massacre originates from the mutinous attitude fanatical Armenian gangs acquaired in the depths of history. Similar massacres committed by Armenians were witnessed throughout the Ottoman-Russian Wars of 1828 and 1877-78, due Armenians’ cooperation with the enemy, as well as other major massacres Armenians committed on their own.
During the early phases of these Russian invasions, aiming the realization of Russia’s historical ambitions, some Armenians who knew the region very well as Ottoman citizens and whose second language was Turkish, led the Russian forces into Turkish territories, causing them to raid Turkish forces and massacre many Muslims. Armenians have repeated similar practices in the VAN MASSACRE.
@@gaybana2000 Genocide denier
@@gaybana2000 Shame on you spreading your propaganda, I looked up what you are saying and it was nothing like the armenian genocide how can you live with yourself comparing these 2 horrific things with each other. Nothing Turks will say will justify the genocide on 1.5 milion armenians greeks and assyrians. If you were in front off me I would spit on you and your family for lying to you for all your life.
I am not Armenian. But I feel a connection with Hayastan. I attended the commemoration of the Armenian Genocide with the local Armenian Community. Armenians are a strong and resilient people. I will be giving a 7 minute speech on the genocide for my class, to spread awareness.
Artsakh is Armenian
Long live Hayastan from a Hispanic
You don't have to say hayastan its Armenia but you can say that too though
Love you bro. I lived in los angelos my whole life and have many hispanic friends. A hispanic fighting for armenian genocide. Love you bro.
I respect you bro thank you for spreading awareness I am armenian and my great grandparents are stil alive and they tell me story’s about how there parents survived the Armenian genocide
ThyGreeeek...However, you deceive yourself with these lies :)))
@Yh I’m Pakistani Yh I’m Pakistani Hey, pakistani, how could unarmed children and women massacare the turkish armed forces? Have a little shame. Even Turkish some decent writers tell stories of horrors the turkish army committed over Armenians.
Azeri here show support to all nations. We should make dolma, not war and live in harmony finally.
Nappi Nappi thanks
@Aab V what's wrong with you ?
@@KayaneGavrilof everyyhing
Not "Azeri".They are Azerbijian Turks.
Amen dude - thanks for showing compassion and understanding
I wish the world could acknowledge what happened so we as Armenians could heal and move forward. As long as people deny our pain it will never heal.
What pain?
Just move on. There is nothing holding you! Promote peace and positivity!
You just want money from Turkish goverment lol. Poor liars. Nobody loves you and your country in middle east. This is why you poor NOBODY LIKES YOU!
@@Aussder people like you are threat to humanity
Her fake cryings make me proud with my grandparents. Good jod grandpa. 😃
I’m a 3rd generation survivor also but I’m a Turk. I wonder who killed my great grandmother. But it doesn’t matter because she was a Turk and Muslim right!
Nazis looking for sympathy. So funny. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am Armenian and your story important too. Not for a second I think that just because your are Turk or Muslim your pain is less. ❤️
Her death matters, but the Armenians are talked of more because they were killed for being Armenian.
@@thatcherleblanc9980 where is the logic for that? Are you saying Turks waited for about 1000 years to Kill Armenians? Obviously Armenian thought that The Turks were weak and with the help of west and Russians they could carve a piece of land for themselves.
@@caligulathemademperor3457 Who said anything about sympathy? The truth is the truth, she pointed out the propaganda.
My great grand father Khachadour Khazandjian was from Sivas too. He survived the desert marchs assisted by Beduins. He was 15 yo when he saw his parents and people around him vanished of hunger and thirst. He managed to come to South America where he seeded in Argentina and Venezuela his family. I had the chance to meet him and be blessed with armenian blood in my veins. Thanks Lucine for being brave enough to stand there and tell your grandma story.
We, Indians can understand what you had gone through, we also had gone through so many incidents like this at the time of Independence 1947 😭😭😭
🙏😞
judging by the pajet population it's actually made
@@saymyname10 Chuslim detection
Opinion Rejected.
This is what happened to algeria....the french killed one and a half million algerians it's very sad
Đəßţîñəßîå there is 1 difference, it is really happened in Algeria.
But France acknowledged the genocide
@@amirataibi8174we didnt do a genocide. if we look we are like a brother with armenians. But russia is lied to armenians. and they started to kill civil people.
Maria Puder the armenian genocide is a fact you moron
@@_.-jen-._ stop believing fairy tale....
Lucine, you did a terrific job of describing the pain and anguish of your great grandmother in simply trying to survive the barbaric and inhumane treatment of Christian Armenians by the Ottoman Turks. I am proud of you , as I know your dad and grandmother Helen are, and know your grandfather , Vartkis, is looking down at you with tears of joy. Thanks for doing this.
There is only barbarian here is you
we are Barbar? France killed millions of people in algeria : Britain was biggest colonist empire and we didnt do a genocide.
Armenian extremists have long been feeding the fabricated illusion of establishing a "Greater Armenia" from the Mediterranean Sea to the Caspian Sea. Inspired by the materialization of this mythical idea, they intermittently committed widespread bloodshed against the Turkic-Muslim population in different spots of this geography - particularly in the Caucasus and Anatolia. Likewise, Azerbaijan was no exception. Between March and April 1918 armed Armenian formations mercilessly killed tens of thousands of innocent civilians based on their ethnic and religious affiliations, destroyed hundreds of Azerbaijani towns and villages and ravaged numerous cultural monuments, mosques and cemeteries. In that period, only in Baku, extremist Armenian armed units murdered and tortured about 30,000 Azerbaijani civilians, including women, children and elderly. Mass graves found in Baku were full of corpses of Azerbaijani women with ears and noses cut off and bellies torn open. The city hospital where 2,000 people had sought shelter was burned as well. The brutality of the armed Armenian thugs was also reflected in the reports of foreign diplomats and military officials posted in the Caucasus.
Armenia's first Prime Minister Kacaznuni's Dashnaklarutyun
Party confessed; '' Genocide claims are not realistic, '' he said. sheds light.
Kaçaznuni made a self-criticism of the previous period in the Report and
described the essence of Turkish-Armenian relations as a state of war between
1914-1922. Reports in Turkey, is doing Kachaznuni evaluation; 'Severe Armenian
gangs and the administration of the TASNAK are guilty.' '
God bless you guys. I wish nothing but peace, love and happiness for Armenia. Stand strong.
They were the murderers if turks then, and then later again. Crocodile tears and pure gaslighting.
My heart aches for the Armenian people... forgotten tragedy, lost in our history.
@@immcha5175 The brainwashed Turk has arrived.
Turkey and Turkish people should be ashamed of themselves.. They killed armenians and have the audacity to deny it.. Own it up, to start your own healing..
Miranda Elaine its not forgotten!!! As longer as we are alive we will remember and demande!!! And our generations will remener and demande !!!
Enes Bugra we have been thought that way your govenrment lyed to you they wont tell you the truth but those turks who can think who study and find out the truth they never deny 27 countries inclouding Russia France Germany .... recognized the Genocide as a historical fact and fact shoud not be drsscusrd!!!!
@@seda8853your and our media is having propoganda . you must go to erzurum and see real things.
Your story made me very emotional and I thank you for having the courage to tell the story. My grandparents were also Armenian Genocide survivors. I join you as a descendant of an Armenian Genocide survivors. Thank you!
My grandmother related these horrific atrocities to me. She witnessed them first hand, having witnessed her brothers slaughtered by the Turks. Ironically she was saved by a Turkish woman. The woman branded her with tattoos on her hands identifying her as Muslim. Eventually in the diaspora making her way to France and the the U.S.. Man's inhumanity to man continues to this day, we must never forget.
Forgiveness helps everyone.
@@ruthgallagher9584asking for forgiveness would help too. Unfortunately Armenians have not been apologised to. Moreover the same barbarism continues today and another ethnic cleansing and massacres happened just last month.
@@hrachuhisarkisyan4878 The ANCA is a great organization. I sent a letter to my congressman on this.
@@hrachuhisarkisyan4878 do you think Betraying your country and neighbours is Normal ? Minor asia is full of mass turkish graves not armenian your ancestor tried to established a country and failed ... Of course there were innocents we had so many armenian soldiers doctors in the army It was your country but most of you betrayed ... what goes around comes around
I am a third generation survivor. My grandparents ended up in Iran after the genocide. We ended up migrating to the US in 1979 after the Islamic revolution in Iran. Unfortunately my grand fathers past before I was born and my maternal grandmother passed when I was four. My paternal grandmother decided to move back to Armenia, when I was 6 years old, where she peacefully passed away at age of 103. However I never got the opportunity to talk to them regarding the genocide. My regret is that that story has been lost in the sands of time but their memory remains. I am told that I am a spitting image of my paternal grandfather. I enjoy hearing these stories because it helps me to better understand my grandparents and be able to recreate their own story that they were unable to tell. May god bless you and your family.
Armenian government refused to open their archives related to this tragedy requested by Turkey? All Turkey asked was to have independent study to be done, and refused by Armenians? Something is really fishy with this genocide claims.
My father's grandfather were a Greek's genocide survivor and I'm aware of stories like that...Only Greeks,Armenians and Assyrians could understand you by speaking about that stories....Thnx for sharing this story with us..We have to be proud for our ancestors...!!!God bless you my lady
You are the ones who killed civillians, you are the ones who burned izmir as you flee . How come you accuse us with genocide
So , you mean that your fathers grandfather was a great swimmer?since passing all the egea sea, possibly very difficult
Who burned izmir and killed many civil Turkish? Why do you always think you are so innocent? That's make me crazy.
Thank your telling your family's story. God bless you and all people who suffer. Love, Hope
which god ? imagine believing in a god
@@saas52948 imagine not believing God and facing him on judgement day
@@saas52948 which armeanian genocide. imagine believing in armenian genocide and not allah or jesus or even budha who cares
I have some respect for both they are people who don't believe in God and few believe in God. Don't try to force others into your beliefs he or she are following.
''you say you want to keep this story alive'. ok, keep repeating the story that your grandmother's mother told you. But please doublecheck with real history, especially if you are to tell it in such a biased way!
Just a hint; 'Ottoman Turkish officials'.. that is not even a real term - such a pact has never existed, as we/ Turks were against Ottoman Empire!
And another hint for you; about the so called your grandma's mother 'abductor' ...what is that about 'harem' concept you mention? that you describe as 'including 15 and/or 20 young girls...' . This alone is a fact that you have no idea what you are talking about. Harem is an arabic culture fantacy! Look at the political, social culture in anatolia at that time! this story has so many historical flaws and manupilations.
Distorting the facts as you do, leaves no choice but to think that you just are looking for attention.
Selin Sertel read some books from historians
I would suggest you to watch this youtube channel called the Great War were a historian Indy Neidell covers the events of world war one week by week and also how various factors led to the armenian genocide , pretty convincing
terms aside. Anyone worth their salt from any part of the world would not even dare to deny the fact of genocide .
Bal gibi anlatmışın abla
@@edwingeorge5433 everything you watched in CZcams is not true hun
from PERSIA with Passion
Viva Armenia Hayestan
BehrooZ Abshar thank you our Persian brother.
death to Iran
@@freemen3434 death to Turkey and Azerbaijan who is younger than coca cola
as a student from Turkey we are taught about the Armanian Genocide and all my friends be like "haha we are the best". im not one of them 1 like 1 pray for Armanians
Thank you. I pray the official line in Turkey will be as you understand and know.
if what you say is true then you have given all of us reading your post and incredibly rare insight into what is taught to Turkish school children. look at what he says reread it carefully and see the logical conclusion
Aslında biz değil Ermeniler bize soykırım yaptı. Kazım Karabekir paşa şöyle diyor. "Erzuruma o kadar yaklaştım ki insanların dişlerini görecek kadar yakınlarındayım gülerek beni karşılıyorlar. Biraz daha yakınlaştığımda bir gariplik hissetim. Daha yaklaştığım zaman ızdırapla gördüm ki her biri canlı canlı kazığa oturtulmuştu. Izdıraptan kasılmıştı yüzleri gülmüyorlardı. Allah benim gözümümün gördüklerini dünyada hiç bir göze göstermesin." Kaynak: Kazım Karabekirin kızı Timsal Karabekir.
@@jzle07 dogrudur. Ic savas vardi ama Turkiye bugunden sonra asla topraklarinda boyle bir seye izin vermeyecek. Atalarimizin koruyamadiklari soydaslarimizi biz koruyacagiz
Lampeh the lamp ArmEnian it is very important
Kudos for your courage 👏. And well done to Germamy, U.S.A and especially well done to France for acknowledging the Armenian genocide in 1915 by the Turks.
France ? France has the biggest genocide rate in History....
Thank you for sharing your story, Lucine! My Great-Grandparents were from Sebastia in Greek, Sivas. I am Pontian Greek. They did the death marches for the Pontians too. So sad. Too sad. Lots of love to you! ❤️ Your Great-Grandma was so brave!
Sorry but Sivas is in Turkey, not Greece.
@SuliemanTheGreat if we start talking about what turkish did at Greeks UNTIL 1919, we will need an entire encyclopedia.
I am From Madagascar. They did the death marches for the Madagascar people too by Ottoman Turkish. It’s soo sad 😩😭
@@enesmalikcamldag8275 how is Madagascar related with the Ottoman Empire?
@@enesmalikcamldag8275 so, you talk about lies, while you have told so many lies that you make Pinokio seem like an angel.
I'm third generation Greek genocide survivor. Greeks and Armenians were massacred in 1922 in Constantinople and Minor Asia.
Seriously !
@@sametguren9576 Αre you proud?
Greek killed many Turkish in İzmir and in Girit island. Don't play innocent.
How about the innocent Turks you killled in Western Turkey after WW1?
My friend's grandfather killed by greek in WW1
it only happened if I told you. why armenia is not willing to open archives ? Why does it not allow impartial historians to examine it ? Think about that.
Don' t worry the Vatican openned their archives about the Armenian Genocide. Don't deny the undeniable.
@@y.kaloian6324 Vatikan is not related with so called armenian genocide. Genocide should take long time to eliminate certain race. But you know your armed gangs killed Turks anf Kurds in eastern anatolia. We have Ottoman and Russian archives and General Harbourd report this. What you got? Lies .. and grandma stories.
Please speak more and more about this genocide. People should know more about it. Turks must be punished.
I know her! She was my middle school English teacher! What a great story :3
tms i presume?
What a great lie ?
Also my teacher
yarinbels Truman middle school
Lucine that was a moving presentation !! Hats off to you !!! My family and me were tears hearing your Story !! This summer I will be taking my Family to your beautiful country to see the amazing Culture your Community Possess. God Bless You !!
Abraham.
Give urself and ur family a favor
Why don't u visit Turkey as well since u come very very close.
Visit Turkey and u will realise if there is any substance in Armenian claims.
Do yourself a favor and examine the history objectively. Do not waste your time with such imaginary stories. They are afraid that the lies of Armenian history are full of lies, the year is 2020 and they still do not dare to open their own archives.
Please read about Khojaly Genocide before your visit!
@@cemasti4524 visit Turkey to see all the Armenian churches destroyed or turned into a mosque
@@tanerkurt0133 The Armenian archives are open. Your archives are also open but God knows how you manipulated the archives by destroying what doesn't fit your narrative. Why are you here commenting on this video? Are you conflicted within yourself knowing what your people have done to the Armenians?
Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek genocides: never forget
Aab V 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕shove this and be happy
i am from Turkey and i recognize the armenian genocide
nosferatu488
Thank you
nosferatu488. traitor!
nosferatu488, if you are from Turkey, i am from mars. As usual, master of liars..lol
Great White don't insult mars like that ever again.
Sürü psikolojisine kapılmış bir salak
What about the Turks women, childrens and elderly people that was butchered in Van, Kars and any other region by Armenian rebels while the Turks youngmen sent to frontline of their country defending their land, facing their own death against the British allies?
"No matter what you do, you can not convince brainwashed people, they are like walls. You can talk to them but they will not respond. But patience is a virtue. We will eventually prove (to the world what true) history is about" EY
On the 106th anniversary of the vicious slaughter of 22,900 innocent Muslims at the provincial center of the City of Van on April 21, 1915 by mutinous Armenian gangs (Hunchak, Dashnak and alike), We, The Turkish People around the world, would like to commemorate our martyrs with compassion and love, bowing down in front of their honorable, loving memory with respect.
The VAN massacre originates from the mutinous attitude fanatical Armenian gangs acquaired in the depths of history. Similar massacres committed by Armenians were witnessed throughout the Ottoman-Russian Wars of 1828 and 1877-78, due Armenians’ cooperation with the enemy, as well as other major massacres Armenians committed on their own.
During the early phases of these Russian invasions, aiming the realization of Russia’s historical ambitions, some Armenians who knew the region very well as Ottoman citizens and whose second language was Turkish, led the Russian forces into Turkish territories, causing them to raid Turkish forces and massacre many Muslims. Armenians have repeated similar practices in the VAN MASSACRE.
Thank you!
Incredible! Thank you for sharing.
Full of bullshit. How dramatic
Great White
Are you back? You freakin nightmare. Get lost, you nasty Turk.
F....ALLLLLLLSS TURKS...!!!!! jzpatelut...
f..........alllllllllllllllllll You turks.....jzpatelut...
@@cutiepie4041 Please don't cry armenian.
Thank you of sharing Lucine, you did a wonderful job!
My heart is broken still.. When will our people have justice.
MOBIUS PAW when Will Two miljons Kurds killed by Armenians have justice?
When Will have Karabağ Turks have justice...
When Will hundreds of thousands murdererd Turks in the Ottoman time have Justice Who where murderd by Armenians.
Of you seek Justice without giving Justice you can wait very long time.
Turk Turkic ourash eshek
@@turkturkic7015 ok
1-whe never killed 2 million kurd if whe did they hate us you know that ottoman payed money and promised land to kurds if they kill armenians
2-you know that morr than 90 percent in karabagh are sided with armenia and it belong to us and eastern turkey too it belong to us
@@turkturkic7015 how whe killed turks
An empire with guns money generals ect horses motorized cars got killed by us is this a joke and dont tell me the russians helpd us if they helpd us they would gave us more lands and didnt conquere us
@@turkturkic7015 and whe wont forget the genocide even 1000years later
Justice for armenia
You killed innocent armenians but you will pay for what you did armenia will rise again just like he did many times before
Incredible story. It is always a shock to learn what human beings are capable of doing to each other. Although I was aware of this horrific period in history, this story brings it to life. It makes it personal. Thank you.
Watch ‘The Endless Corridor’, it’s a documentary film
There are many historians for both sides, but there is 1 thing they all agree at. That Russians promised land to Armenians if their population is higher than Turkish population at those lands..
Therefore the bloodshed began, while Turkey was at war with many countries who are trying to invade Turkish lands, Armenians that lived in those lands, that Turkish people called brothers for hundreds of years, started to attack and kill their neighbors / friends even block the paths of the Military and feed them poisoned bread. (There are countless documentaries about in how bad conditions the Turkish Military was at those times after the attacking Nations confiscated all the army's weapons. - There are many letters from those people that say all their bread finished and they have nothing more to eat, and how freezing it is)
At that point, already weakened Turkish army who are at war with many nations, that doesnt even have anything to eat or wear to their feet at freezing cold, had to move the Armenian people to other places, either that, or the remaining Turkish people on those lands were going to get killed by Armenians and those lands were automatically going to get lost without even a fight.
Moving Armenian population was the only choice and the hardest though, since there were nothing to eat and the weather conditions were harsh, many people died from both sides, it was never planned as a systematic kill, it was never meant to be that way, it was never the intention of Turkish people to start a fight against Armenians in the first place. All started with Armenians wanting more land to their own and if they had the population % more they were gonna get it so they started the killing.
People believe these or not, ALL the Turkish Historical archives are open, even the Military Archives are open (which is quite Radical for a Country to open their Military Archives to all the World, in the whole world there is not more than a dozen countries that can do it proudly), Turkish Governments have been issuing an unbiased scientific/historical meeting for decades, and asking Armenians to open their Historical Archives to the World so there can be a conclusion at last. But to no help..
Armenians doesn't open their Archives, and even arrested many people who tried to get in, in the past. (Why show the Truth, while you can get a lot of money and land, by Political means and by begging to the World right?) If they have NOTHING to hide, open the pages of History and let's see what really happened. Not just do that, also if you are heavily supporting the Armenian cause, go to İstanbul and check the Historical and Military archives for yourselves for the truth. They are open to public and to anyone 7/24.
İ have questions about it, where is the documents about it proving this story, and how many of the people died of hunger and sickness? Thank you.
They don’t have any documents, but Turkey has open archives where you can read the real story
There are plenty of documents on the US embassy websites showing pictures as well as stories from the genocide,
@@coldriches ur a problem by existing
Such an incredible presentation, very moving!! Someday the whole world will recognize it, it’ll only take a few more decades probably
Thank you for educating all with hard facts and the true history. Well done.
Thank you very much for sharing your great grandmother’s experiences with us! We need to make sure that the Armenian Genocide is taught in primary & secondary schools from now on. I only learned about it when I attended college.
I am also a 3rd generation survivor my great grandma although I'm not sure how came here at the age of 8 and married my great grandfather at 8 years old. Thank you for sharing about the Genocide many people to this day are unaware of this tragedy
My grand parents are survivor of Armenian terorism (1918-1920) in Eastern Anatolia.
GENOCİDE HASNT DONE... WAİT US SON OF A
Please share this with as many people as possible.I am heart broken to hear about this and if the world does not know the terrible pain, horror and massacre the Armenians faced , they need to recognize. and not let it just slip away like it did not ever happen. If we do not support them 1.5 million lives will be swept under the table, and those brave Armenians will never be known to exist.
My great great-grandma made it to France too! This was in my great-grandma's side. I'm named Paris for a reason.
@@turkishultranationalist ok little online edgy 13 year old nationalist
@@turkishultranationalist no thanks
i may not be armenian but what happened to the armenians dosent sicken me any less
The Turks should formally recognise the genocide and pay reparations to Armenia
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Not just Armenia, but also to Greece for the genocide of the Greek population.
Thank you for raising awareness of the Armenian Genocide
@Yusuf Isa LOL the only evidence you have is "there wouldn't be any Armenians left if it was a genocide" you are so funny
@Yusuf Isa Armenia has no documements about genocide because it was happened in Ottoman Empire
@Ani Mosinyan
"History is Written by Victors" such a true quote
in 1453 When Fatih Sultan Mehmed Conqured Istanbul
The Ottoman Empire Didn't killed them nor Forced to be assimilated into Islam they were allowed to be prostecuted under their own religious laws and not held against Islamic ones
Why Would They do that if they were a genocidal empire it's not like they ravaged the place took everything valuable and then eighter killed anyone who didn't bleive ot took the rest as slaves (Great Britland)
When ww1 Started Armenian People joined forces with France and Russia to start an uprising within they attacked us together with french and russians but While Ottoman Empire Was Falling to it's knees Atatürk Kept the Turkish people From Their own extinction but as the quote suggests
"History is Written by Victors"
Omg.Armenians aren't innocent.We knows everything about dashnakcutyun.They killed a lot of people even in Turkistan.
@@eltn2610 so the baby killed horribly in the story not inoccent too ?
Nice fairytale armenian screamwriters ahahahahha
My great-Grandpa Frank Ohneasian told me what happened to his family, himself. He and his brother survived. Later they discovered that their sister was forced to marry a Turk. He last heard his mother tell him to run and escape and find his brother in town. He turned to see his family inside killed. I won't say how. I won't revealed what happened later on in my grandpa's life, but he luckily found happiness. He ended his life with great depression when he lose his own children from unfair illnesses.
I feel bad
Hi Andrea
I said in my article above, we, the Turks, the events today in eastern Turkey in 1915 and who lost their lives in the event that we are sorry for all Ottoman citizens. We all died there. not only Armenian or Turkish, but Kurdish, Arab Circassian citizens died there.
Why did the Ottoman state force its Armenian-origin citizens to the south, to the present-day Syria, for forced migration?
I don’t want to give you a history lesson here and explaining the reasons for this forced migration.
I do not want you to think that I am insensitive to the suffering of you and your family here.
No reason is above human life. This is exactly why we Turks want, some Armenians want to create a garden of hatred for Turks around the world, Those Armenians have to respect and be sad who died in 1915 in the event, we want to those Armenians express sorry for all the Ottoman citizens, not only for Armenians citizens.
Andrea, I want you and your family to visit Turkey. Turkey is the land where your family came from. Turkey depends on the country you're at with your family history.
Take care of you.
Hi Andrea
Finally I found you.
I am the descendent of ur great grand Pa"s sister.
She married to a Kurdish.
We r happy here now.
Everyone has another story.
Some has Arab some Turkish Persian yezidi background but we don't care.
We r all Turkish citizens now.
I hope u doing well.
Come visit ur family if u can
Mi tnov chenq, mi halov enq, hargelis.
my great grandfather was a survivor of the armenian genocide and we have several books on it in my house one day in world history my teacher mentioned it and said he really knew nothing about it which is upsetting to see that not a lot of people know about the horrors that happened
ND1R if i searched a little, my great grandfather fled from armenia to syria and later to the united states he watched family members, friends, and neighbors die. my ancestors were murdered and how does what the british and french do change from the fact that the turks killed my family and still won’t acknowledge that.
ND1R mate wtf is your problem?
HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHA
@@lilianatchiblakian7656 Well, The massacres committed by Armenians against Turks before 1915?
Massacres and genocides against the Balkan Turks?
1.2 million Balkanian Turks had to leave their lands. Hundreds of thousands of Turks were killed in the Balkans.
Thessaloniki Fire?
Concentration camps where Bulgarians imprison Turks?
@@karakalama7317 Ok, so did Turkey, for "self defense" or not, partake in the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group, in this case the Armenian nation?
We didn't execute armenians. We called" Millet-i Sadıka" to Armenians in the past. But Armenian authorities executed history.
RIP all the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians murdered during this period.
where were Turks 1500 BCE when Armenians had a kingdom by lake Van.
No area on the globe is so fascinating to present-day scholars as the Near East; fascinating because it was the cradle of some of the oldest of civilizations, many of which are now but little more than names to us. In ancient times this part of western Asia, mostly mountainous, with fertile uplands and valleys, was a scene of frequent bloody turmoil in one part and another, being overrun by foreign invaders. Nations, kingdoms rose and fell, sometimes through centuries of struggle. Throughout all this, the most persistent, and longest lived of these nations has been the Armenian.
lmao pathetic, atleast we dont build a whole nation on lies and fairytales GET REAL
which Turks you referring to? Turks in Turkey or Turkic nations in the Caucuses and central Asian region? If you want to say that there were no Azerbaijanis or Uzbeks before I can tell that these nations adopted pan Turkism whether by Ancient Albanian Caucasian and Udins in the case of the Caucuses and Turkism was born in central Asia and has always been there.
On the 106th anniversary of the vicious slaughter of 22,900 innocent Muslims at the provincial center of the City of Van on April 21, 1915 by mutinous Armenian gangs (Hunchak, Dashnak and alike), We, The Turkish People around the world, would like to commemorate our martyrs with compassion and love, bowing down in front of their honorable, loving memory with respect.
The VAN massacre originates from the mutinous attitude fanatical Armenian gangs acquaired in the depths of history. Similar massacres committed by Armenians were witnessed throughout the Ottoman-Russian Wars of 1828 and 1877-78, due Armenians’ cooperation with the enemy, as well as other major massacres Armenians committed on their own.
During the early phases of these Russian invasions, aiming the realization of Russia’s historical ambitions, some Armenians who knew the region very well as Ottoman citizens and whose second language was Turkish, led the Russian forces into Turkish territories, causing them to raid Turkish forces and massacre many Muslims. Armenians have repeated similar practices in the VAN MASSACRE.
Why so many hates among Middle East nations? Muslin, Christian, Jewish all pray the same god. They should love each other.
This girl needs to speak about atrocities of armenians committed in Nagorna Karabakh toward Azerbaijany civilians....
May God bless you, beautiful and courageous Armenian-American young woman!
My great grandmother shares the same story, she was abducted from the march and taken to the arabian desert where they gave her or "sold" her to nomadic tribes. we don't know much. maybe she was a part of that harem you spoke of
Hehe keep telling your lies this makes me laugh
@FBI-Exoticzz ignore this troll. don't give it attention its too pathetic
@FBI-Exoticzz there was no genocide just some people have tried to be with Russia and gave information to them and let them in Turkey so turkish people stopped them in a nutshell that all but it sounds weird to me cuz I only know this side of coin. I know this cuz there is evidence and in turkey there is millions(76.000+) of Armenian people heck I count as a half this thing happend in 1915 there was no Turkey only ottoman empire turkey doesn't have to do anything with it I curious what did they say to you and I said I am laughing but actually I couldn't sleep cuz armenia wants half of my country and big amounts of money from every citizen tf cuz heyo it's not ottoman its turkey and I did not do bad things to my grandfather
@FBI-Exoticzz yes I am Turkish my grandfather armeni. You are telling just your story but armenian government wants to have Azerbaijan and half of turkey.
@FBI-Exoticzz oki
1915, today Turkey's east live there during the sad events that had just not died Armenian citizens. there died in Muslim citizens and they were of different ethnic groups. Turkey a few years ago "Is that the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians?" Turkey called on Armenia to establish the inquiry committee consisting of Armenian and Turkish historians on the subject. This commission will prepare the report will accept the result will be reached in line with the announced. Armenia has not accepted this offer in Turkey.
We Turks feel sorry for all the Ottoman citizens, Turkish, Armenian, Kurdish, Circassian and all other ethnic groups who died in those sad events of 1915. human life is above all values such as religion, language and race. We have never tried to make the genocide decision in the parliament of every country by turning the pains of the Turks in 1915 into a means of exploitation. we will keep our sorrow for all our citizens who died in 1915. we have never committed genocide against anyone at any time in history, and we will never admit that we committed genocide for the events of 1915.
We do not grow hatred and hatred over the past suffering. we feel those pains that have been experienced in the past, and we believe that it is possible for both societies to build the future together by putting on ointments to reduce those pains.
You say, in 1915, only we died. We say, we're all dead.
You say, we were innocent.
We say, no one was innocent there.
You use the language of hate and you travel the assemblies of all countries to make the world a garden of hate.
We use the language of peace, those hate gardens are trying to make a garden of peace. we keep the persecution and injustice in us, and we do not engage other country assemblies with the language of hate.
You teach your children to hate the Turks.
We teach our children respect, love and tolerance.
You have been crying out loud last for 100 years.
We cry 100 years for all the ottoman citizens( Turkish, Armenian, Kurdish, Circassian, Arab, Syriac, Georgian ) who died in 1915, and there is no one to hear we cry.
Thank you everyone.
HOCALİ GENOCİDE? 1992? NİCE TRY
yes hocali genocide is was heppen
@Turqut Tarverdiyev biliyorum neden söylüyorsun? yanlışlıkla soru işereti getirmişim
226 deaths is a massacre, not a genocide
@@moesirwan4307 aRMENİAN LİARS.IN NO TIME, 1.5 MILLION PEOPLE DID NOT DEAD. ARMENIANS WHO LIVED IN TURKISH SOVEREIGNMENT FOR 1000 YEARS LAST TIME SUBMITTED. THIS HISTORY IS PRESENT IN THE RECORDS.
@@astayuno3061 chill it's not even 1000 years it's only 500, just because you're screaming doesn't make you right
Human sadism knows no bounds. Worse than this is the Turkish refusal to apologise
I think, problem is that you believe this lie.Who will apology to slander ?
Do you apologise to couse millions to die, by destabilising the whole region, coused one indipendence war, and destruction of 600 year ruling empire. And most importantly 500 years friendship and cooperation. Armenians without turks, are poor. Your grandparents wanted union, and wanted a christian one. Whilst you dont have brave turks to give you precious land. For me its just a bad political move coused suffuring of too many people not one. Armenians want turks to accept genocide. Turks already confirms the tragical events happened to both nations. But armenians are sooo innocent, just like serbs. Soooooo innocent.
@@MNAr-uj2bn which country is the goat country and which on is the sheep
yh use armenia as a scapegoat to justify evils. No one is saying armenians are holy people
I started to cry when she started to mention the horses go over the babys
Does it feel good to kill babies with the courage you get from Russia?
@@asakura5110 You're ignorance level is off the charts buddy, congrats. Russia doesn't help Armenia. Russian troops left during WWI and that's why the genocide happened in the first place. RUSSIA was the one who declared a cease-fire in 94' to stop Armenians taking over more land from Azerbaijan. And I don't know who you're kidding, because Armenians never killed innocent civilians, we're Christians, it's just not how we roll. There is absolutely no evidence for what you are saying.
@@uncoverthetruth6171 afsfafsf lolll
@@uncoverthetruth6171 im soilder in turkey-armenia border my poor buddy. you're watching on TV, im live. there are no Armenian soldiers, only Russians .
instead of learning from history, you're people with a sense of revenge and hatred. Great pity
@@asakura5110 No one hated on you, YOU did. And I never said I was an Armenian, I just stand up for the truth. And ya, the truth is that Russia is on that boarder. But it's also the truth that Russians haven't crossed that boarder, and no "killing babies" happened. You're saying Armenians aren't on the boarder, Russians are, and then you're saying Russians are aiding Armenians into killing babies. If there are no Armenians there, how are they killing Turkish babies? And I did site history, I explained everything and how Russia is the reason Azerbaijan exists today. If you can disprove me by fact checking me, go ahead.
Your grandma's story reminds me of what my grandfather from Pontus told me about their genocide. The same methods were used to exterminate all Christian population of the area. We need to remind the people of the Armenian, Greek, Assyrian genocide in order to never ever repeat these mistakes again
yeah man you gotta all remind armenian greek assyrian kurdish and alien genocides but you all gotta remain silent when time comes to speak about "hocalı" "Tripoliçe" "Cyprus" and much more... Because this is your two faced humanity I guess...
Why you dont talk twice face
Now tell us about the genocides committed by armenians against turks and azeris, and by greeks against turks. Hypocrites.
Thank you for sharing your family story I couldn't imagine what they went threw stay strong and may there memory live on.
Great job Lucine!! I'm so proud of you
Thank you Lucine for telling the truth.
Yusuf Isa you will be Punished if not in this life and the next life for sure for not recognizing the Armenian genocide
Yusuf Isa historians have prove that the Armenian genocide has happened as well as many countries around the globe agree and approve the genocide. But unfortunately since turkey is to chicken to admit the truth or should I say to turkey 🦃 we as Armenians will continue to fight until justice is served.
Yusuf Isa Turks and truth and never combine some friends I have who are Turkish are honest enough to admit the truth but clearly you’re definitely not one of them
Yusuf Isa I hope this wasn’t too truthful to hurt your feelings. 👍😂
Armenia was a huge country but Turkish killed 1.5M Armenian people on the name of Religion.. this is really inhuman
How did you learn the history ? Turks and Armenians lived in peace since 500 years and suddenly Turks killed them for just religion ? Do you believe that ?
@@sertanakdeniz6514 they doesnt know it they just see some TV shows and think it was like they say in t'he TV show.
300-600 thousend Armenians died and 2,5 Mio. Turks died in Eastern Anatolia..
BEAUTIFUL SPEECH, proud to be Armenian ❤️
Vax tsavet tanem kur Jan! You kept me at the edge of my seat and I adore your relentless pursuit of keeping our ancestors’ voices heard
She wouldnt pass an inquiry or an simpel interrogation.
You cant blame every death on killing.
There was famine , WW1 , massemigration to newer lands like Nort America , South America , Australia , France etc
There was diseases from poverty , wardiseases and the Spanish Flu who took 50 million lifes worldwide.
Even the infant mortality is blamed on Turks as genocide.
Let there be an real investigation and take those factors above as consideration.
Your claim is biased. Please check your archive. Armenian killing among each other with the help of Russian trying to break from Ottoman Empire. Even as a Singaporean I learn the history from the fact. Source Justinian Mc Carthy - American Historian And Demographic Professor
I’ve heard this claim before and this is not just Armeniphobic but blatantly wrong. There is almost no information to prove your point. McCarthys article provides no evidence
In Southamerica we had survivors from that genocide. There stories and memories of such horrible massacres are more valuable than any piece of paper. Even Erdonang in 100 years anniversary of those events recognizes the hundreds of thousends deaths, of course he doesn't recognize murders, but he says "they died of hunger and thirst".
That's why Ottomans deported Armenians from Izmit, Adana, Antep, Marash, Diyarbakir, Sivas, Kayseri and as you can see in the map, all those cities were hundreds of miles away from Ottoman-Russian border
Thank you for taking the time to so eloquently tell your family's story and give people like me the opportunity to be educated about the unfortunate realities of the Armenian Genocide.
Just saying one thing, this is subjective af. You dont know if its true or not. This is a subjective story with no actual documentation or proof. So bs
@@unknownv1065 stop denying testimonies, there are overwhelming documents
proof everywhere
jut look at the maps before and after how armenia is
Beautiful💖this Nation however once burnt down rise from it's ashes over and over!standing tall and flying high...love you.
Karmen Sittama Tarina thank you
No no no sweetie you are wrong I can clearly still see ashes
Thank you for telling this story!
There are millions of stories. 😢
My grandmother was also a survivor of the Armenian Genocide, while her family was slaughtered by Turkish troops.. She used to sit down and tell us of the countless horrors her weeping eyes had seen, and then she'd stop and say "I can't say anymore, it's too hard"! .. It's time the world acknowledged the Armenian Genocide, and held the terrorist state of Turkey accountable for its heinous crimes against humanity !
hearsay, forgeries, embellishments, or political propaganda materials
It was the Ottoman Empire, not Republic of Turkey which was founded AFTER the genocide and AGAINST THE OTTOMANS by REVOLTING TO THEM obviously your poor grandmother forgot to educate you about that part. TURKS AND KURDS OF TURKEY TODAY TOTALLY AGAINST THE GENOCIDE and NEVER LIKE TO CONDUCT SUCH A INHUMANE ACT AGAIN. But people like you will make Turkey never accept the genocide officaly as you are not anti genocide or after the genociders, you are against a country built with peaceful intentions even against the genociders.
Justin McCarthy
Death and Exile: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Muslims, 1821-1922
@@otgunzit's literally happening today too in Artsakh. And why exactly Enver Pasha who was convicted war criminal by the Turkish Court is still being glorified by the current government?
Great presentation. My great grandparents saw their parents get murdered in from of them and grew up in orphanages. It’s sad that the Turks still deny this even happened
@@kazmuz4586 armenian aren't just tashnaks you know .....
yes the tashnaks did horrible things to armenians as well
Saying lies about your people poor for you.
this is so tragic 😥 and heart felt so many things I feel and want to say after listening to this but they did not win you survived the hardships and sacrifices our ancestors made was not in vain
Harbiden de kız aynı sivaslilara benziyor :)
KlarundWahr False lol
@TURKISH POWER 💙🤍💙🤍💙🤍
Actually, her story is very common, it's not only happed in Turkey, but it also happed in every country invented by the Muslims in the past, such countries are India, Israel, Spain, Iran, Syri, Egypt, Pakistan, Bangladesh & some African countries. That's why none Muslims especially whether he is Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist or Athiest never like Muslims.
Thank you for sharing your story. It's so awful what the Ottoman's did to the Christian minorities in their empire. They were the ISIS of their time
Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK we never helped the ottomans, we absolutely hate you
Long live Armenia and Armenians and Christianity. 💕💕
As a turk, this story really brought me into tears. happy to see such grandchildren like you who tell their stories. i'm sure they would be proud of you if there would still living
Thank you
@@cdahdude51 no need to thank me, it's totally normal and natural to think about such sensitive topics like that
Yea “as a turk” xD
@@kayraylmaz1507 :) wow you can read. great
@aylardır ölüyüm dogru ya kesin degilim
Let the old man explain the story if it's true, not an populist woman.
You know the "genocide" was not at Sivas right? .-.
My outmost solidarity and respect to you from someone with roots from Kurdistan. Some of us committed the horrible mistake to participate in that genocide which really is a dark chapter in kurdish history, however, we have also suffered alot on the hands of the turks.
So I feel your pain and I hope your wounds heal.
Lmao is there even a kurdish history?
I hate the fact that because people don't know about this, any video about it has so little views. Breaks my heart.
Armenians are not innocent too. They also killed many Azerbaijani children and Turkish citizens. Search, Hoxali, and Adana, Maraş,Erzurum murders by Armenian.
Now watch the documentary ‘The endless corridor’ about the genocide committed by armenians in Khojaly and tell me if your heart breaks
Lucine,
My name is Eric, I met your father tonight by pure luck and am very greatful I had the opportunityto do so. he is a great man and I have nothing but respect for him. I am truly greatful he shared your story with me and I thank you for taking this step forward to tell your family, our Armenian family's story.
Sincerely,
Eric
Great story and thank you. More people are going to learn about this horrific event since first American president will finally publicly acknowledge it was indeed a genocide.
My grandfather's uncle killed by armanian soldiers on 1914! Armanian killed Muslim without tears! Too. On this age Ottoman empire also lead by ARMANİAN PARTİES.
Merak etme kardeş bu utanmaz yalancıların oyunu çökecek
Don't be Cry Baby
269 thumbs down. Why?
You really don't know????Turkish people will never accept their mistakes...they're the ones disliking.
Do you have proof ? Is there evidence ?
Yes, Talat pas,a's book about it and pictures, what else do you want
May God bless this Woman, and give Eternal Rest to all those Armenians who suffered so much for being a Christian. Yesterday we Celebrated All Saints Day, and HEAVEN was full of every Armenian Souls killed being satans army in this wicked world. Long Live JESUS CHRIST and his PEOPLE. THE VICTORY IS OUR'S FOR ETERNITY. YOU MIGHT HAVE ENJOYED 5 MINUTES OF FAME HERE ON EARTH, BUT ETERNITY IS LOOKING DAMMED TO ALL THOSE WHO PERSECUTE SOULD WHO BELONG TO CHRIST AND HIS CHURCH. REPENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.LONG LIVE JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY TRUE GOD.AMEN.MARANATHA.
so many questions I have- 1) how number of victims grow exponentially (only 1 m couple of years ago), 2) how a 13 yo old escaped the place in the area she did not know and found armenian churches, 3) she could have left her own children with her 'horrible' husband and re-marry and leave to America (what about mother love?), 4) how she connected with her daughters in Turkey
Right! How did they get her address or know her name at the age of two?
Wdym 1 million a couple of years ago? It’s always been 1.5 million
Thank you for sharing this story. I teach Genocide Studies to Grade 11 and 12 students, and we are currently finishing up our study of the Armenian Genocide. I will be sharing your family's story with my students today, as a part of reminding them that people resisted and survived, and that it is vital that we continue to listen, believe, and respect the stories of survivors.
Thank you for teaching this generation about the horrors of genocide
I'm from India... We've a lesson in grade 11 English text of the stories of two armeniyan boys in America named " Summer on the beautiful White Horse "by William Saroyan
I too teach my students about the Armeniyan massacre and genocide 😢
I've seen children with tears after the class😢cruelty towards our brothers and sisters😢let time cure their pain🙏
Armenian genocide never happened. False info. People think they lived through the time 😂 no one talks about how many armenians killed turks before they kicked them out 😂😂😂
Justin McCarthy
Death and Exile: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Muslims, 1821-1922
Wow, my great great grandparents went from Sivas to Aintab and then France to America in the 20s as well. I’ve been trying to find out what happened, just using ancestry and online research to put the pieces of the puzzle together, so hearing this was very interesting and emotional for me.
Tears are coming down my face
@Aab V sure I will. Those are chocolate ice cream emojis, love :)
you should watch azeri genocide
Fact check armenia ....you should check who is liar..
This video is too underrated. More people should see this.
Plus, she is in her 30s and claims to be a survivor? Lmao
"gen.ocide" is prop.aganda. Even the new york times starting using this word in 2005,lol.and also there were literal legions of the Russian Army made of Armenians. Another thing is that it is not a muslim-christiann probpem, because the ottomans at the time were allies with Christian powers like Austria Hungary and Germany. Impe.rialist pro.paganda
@@ARM4170 She did not say she is a survivor. She was telling the story of her grandparents. She says that in the video
@@unnamed7225 so you responded to that and left my other reply?
@@ARM4170 what do you mean? Do you mean the one with gen.ocide is prop.aganda.? what do i need to say about that one? I think it is accurate.
I am Armenian Canadian and I wanted to talk about this in my Ted Ed talk to
sylvana Okajian , not again ,,another session of lies and fabrications
Will you tell us another fairy tail?since i dont like that one
Aab V it’s not lies you piece of shut it is fact
x they were in their country
@x LOL. Learn history.