Staedtler Mars Technico 780C Lead Holder Clutch Pencil & Carbon Leads UNBOXING & First Impressions
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- čas přidán 9. 04. 2023
- Unboxing of a Staedtler Mars Technico 780C Lead Holder Clutch Pencil & Carbon Leads, my first impressions of using and holding the pencil. This pencil was bought for the purpose of being a secondary thick line pencil for working with architecture/engineering/mechanical technical drawing.
Technical drawings are created with the use of various line types including thick and thin lines. Instead of having to change the lead form of one pencil again and again, I bought this second pencil to be formed as a thick line while my other pencil works as a thin line.
At one point I mention how the pencil struggles in the Staedtler Mars Carbon 502 lead pointer tub, however I found that I just needed to empty the tub. The pencil works with the tub sharpener just fine.
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- Staedtler Mars 2mm Carbon Leads HB: amzn.to/3JQNpvO
- Staedtler Mars Lead Pointer Tub: amzn.to/3JTFqOI
Note: About the pencil's compatibility with the Staedtler Mars 502 sharpener/lead pointer; I later found that I just needed to empty the tub which was very full and it caused problems when trying to sharpen the pencil. There's no problem and the pencil works with the 502 tub sharpener perfectly fine.
The "spare" end cap is a color code...
Any grade of lead have a different color. So you can put it on the pencil for fast recognition
I watched someone else’s video and found that too, thanks for confirming.
The problem is when you do that you lose the sharpener in the metal cap!
how much did it cost? I like the 2mm staedtler mechanical pencil a lot, it is my favorite. However, I can't find the black color mechanical pencil , only in the blue color. Where did you get it?
Here, I found the black pencil on Amazon for you: amzn.to/3NOeaCf
Very nice >>>>> Thank you .
Faber has a little tiny sharpener just like the typical one thats for 2mm leads it costs less than a euro or dollar or just two coca cola caps. The staedtler one is good but its to expensive to be honest, but I just refuse to use the cap not because its bad, but because the graphite dust will end up everywhere eventually.
But seriously how damn hard are you pressing to break a lead like that, if you like some darker lines try the Kaweco leads.
I have the little faber one, it's fine, the staedtler one was a gift, I wouldn't have bought it either. And I agree about using the end cap sharpener, it will ruin drawings at some point, only for use as a last resort if needed. I was pressing hard on purpose to feel how tough it was. Thanks.
The m+r is the best of those tiny 2mm sharpeners.Then follows KUM. Unfortunatelly Faber Castell makes those in China,so the quality and performance suck.
Iv'e been using Steadtler for decades and have never broken a lead, that includes the softer 4B as well. Perhaps you extend the lead to far when you write, i never have more than 1 mm past the sharpened part of the lead beyond the grippers.
Hello, yes I understand, I just wanted to feel how hard the lead was. A worthless test, but I was curious.
@@DrawingTechnical You just need to learn how to use the pencil by the sounds of it. Abusing it won’t achieve anything useful. Get some different leads and try laying down different tones. You’ll leant how great these pencils are that way!
Yes, I need to learn how they're used. I have heard many great and famous designers of luxury cars use them and who knows who else. Just need to practice.
@@DrawingTechnical There are 2 basic ways to use this pencil. Writer’s grip (between finger and thumb like you write and then there’s the more weird “artists grip” which is basically holding the pencil as if you are picking something up (you hand is like a pincer). The artists grip is typically used for charcoal but pencil artists use this a lot too. You extend the lead out about 1 inch and then used the pencil on it’s edge to lay lines and shade down. It’s a very light touch on the paper and you typically use your arm and not your wrist. This is where these pencils excel and you should try this artists grip (AKA overhand grip). I think you’ll enjoy the pencil a lot more when you use it this way.
Thanks for the info, I will have to try this.
Here’s the issue. For a very fine tip you should not be pressing hard. The PSI is incredibly high on sharp points. You should be using the other less pointy sharpener in the tub. Also look at the lead you are using. Harder leads means more pressure = tendency to break if you want to achieve a dark line.
I have a set of 2H and HB leads, for construction line and finish line drawing respectively. In this video I broke the lead on purpose just to feel how hard it is, I don't normally break leads when drawing.
@@DrawingTechnical Got it!
Merci pour ce partage .
You’re welcome :)
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When I was younger i feel in love with staedtler products brand for some reason I can not remember, maybe the brand aesthetic seemed to be profesional at first sight, mostly mechanical pencils, but watching this product (which I intended to purchase years ago) I feel like the brand made just the bare minimun in this design... not a proper lead grade indicator, nor a proper lead pushing-forward mechanism as all decent mechanical pencils, nor a decent grip or needle point for technical drawing with rulers... Thank good I didn't buy it because it was very expensive compared to similar alternative brand studmark with better features.. I guess they went straight into a vintage minimalistic design
Can you give me a suggestion for a good mechanical (or preferably a clutch) pencil? I clearly have no taste because I like this pencil a lot. I’m a modern day CAD/BIM user who never has to really use all these tools but I have a hobby of doing technical drawing the old way. Thanks.
@@DrawingTechnical Hahaha don't worry mate, we all have our own taste on pencils :D Maybe I was too hard judging this product... I guess it fulfills its function anyway, I could not suggest better models from my own experience, but I am quite sure I have seen on reviee videos some models that have all those features, maybe the problems is they are hard to find/High price-high quality/Limited editions.... Also after reading what I said, I feel like i was comparing two different products, for Clutch Pencil vs mechanical pencils Have their differences in functionality and design
As example, the Staedtler 925 25 in 2.0, Studmark 3750 also in 2.0
Also, I recently saw a few models of the brand Rotring, 800 and rapid pro, hope you find something interesting
Thanks my friend :)
I'm not much a fan of mechanical pencils, I discovered clutch pencils were a thing a while ago and now stay away from mechanical pencils because they're too flimsy I think. I found this Staedtler and a faber castell that I use as good clutch pencils. I need to do more drawing however, I hardly get the time...perhaps I need to make the time.
For technical drawing, Faber Castell TK 9400/ TK 4600 are far superior For general use and precise line work, Staedtler 780 is way better. So, for free drawing, either go with Pentel Graphgear 500 and Faber Castell TK 9400 combo, or if you want a one tool option, choose the Staedtler 780. TK 4600 with the clip removed, becomes a better TK 9400 pencil! Those I mention,are by far,the best drawing pencils you can get.With Faber C. I suggest their leads.For Staedtler, I prefer either Kitaboshi/Penco or Mitsubishi Uni leads.
Thanks for you comment, a very useful advice 👍
@@DrawingTechnical I dont agree with people saying,that its all about the skill of the artist.Its also the tools that add to that. The pencils i mentioned,provide control and precision,that no other pencil can.Glad I helped!
I have the TK9400 (2H leads) and I love that pencil, I use it in combo with the 780C HB leads. I've yet to draw something serious, but I have to say that holding these pencils is very comfortable.
@@DrawingTechnical Very stable grip too! Best pencil for both technical and free drawing! Fbate Castell 2mm HB and 2B leads, are what I use most.
For me Staedtler 780 is my work-horse and then I use GG1000 [0.5mm] and GG1000[0.3mm] for detailed work as required. 780 is great for everything but you have to keep sharpening it for detailed work whereas the finer tips stay sharp since the leads are thin. Each to their own. They are all great tools TBH.
Also, if you tend to, don't have so much of the tip out. In the video, it appears as though the lead is out of the clutch much more than needed. Just a thought.
Hello, I was just testing how hard the lead feels.
It is not possible to break the lead.. It takes much, mush more force than should be used to draw. ... If anybody use that much pressure they Will also make big mark on the paper... several pages in a sketchbook. ... Relax when you draw.
Thanks for the tip, I’ve had a few instances where the lead breaks.
You’ve got FAR too much of the lead exposed, probably why you’re snapping leads
Yes I understand, I was testing it out to see how hard it feels
@@DrawingTechnical gotcha
You have quite a lot of lead out while drawing. A shorter lead will break way less
I was just testing how hard the lead feels.
Breaking leads, really? As an artist and writer who only exclusively uses Staedtler pencils - specifically the lead holders. I haven't had any lead breaks in the 16 years I've been using the lead holders. It could very well be you're applying too much pressure when you sharpening - or it could be as simple as a defective sharpener.
Hello, yes in the video I was trying to see how hard the lead is, i made it break on purpose out of curiosity. I am confident that lead pens won't break from drawing pressure. Thanks for your comment. Also with the sharpener, the tub was full, that was the problem, solved now.
Regarding the black cap in the end of the lead package,it matches the black stripe on the end of the package showing the lead hardness is "HB". On my package of 2B hardness lead, the cap and colored stripe showing the hardness are both lavender. I think Staedtler intends the include cap to be used to denote what grade is loaded into the holder by changing the cap. This may work but is not very good because one has to have the package to know what grade corresponds to the cap! There are much better ways to tell the grade of lead in the holder directly!
Yes, it would probably bet better if they printed the lead grade on the cap itself, I think you can get a set of these Staedltler pencils for the purpose of setting the grdaes marked on the clip.
7:00 Well why not just stick with the traditional pencil instead.
Because it’s interesting and different, and I’ve grown to like them
@@DrawingTechnical Well then... I guess we all agree that it does serve the purpose it was designed for 🤷🤣
@@pgsibilo hah, agreed
@@DrawingTechnical ❤️🙏