The M1 Abrams Scandal
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- čas přidán 23. 12. 2023
- While the American M1 Abrams main battle tank is generally regarded as a well-designed machine today, it was the center of a lot of controversy when it was developed and first produced. In this essay, we'll take a look at the common theories to see just how true to history they are.
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The M1 Abrams Scandal
This was in the making for a while, so I hope you guys like it and have a Merry Christmas 🎄
Merry Christmas
You too, friend!
Day #6 Italian M15/42. It's horrible when it get uptier
Merry Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas Spookston.
Spookstoon you should try the American T-34 heavy tank. The thing nukes everything in down tiers and it super fun over all
Um ackshually the american T34 doesnt have a hyphen🤓
@@whohashamburger855 UMM!1/1/111 ACTUALLL!!!YYy the pee34 is rusain (joke)
@@starisgonethe pee34 is actually Soviet not Russian!!11!1!!!11!!!!111!!! 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
It was my favourite heavy tank until I bought Somua SM.
for i moment i thought there was a American T-34 from the USSR
In the summer of 1984, I was walking down the tarmac at APG when I heard a clank-clank sound behind me. I turned around and saw an M1 creeping up behind me. You couldn't hear any engine sound from the front which was amazing. I was at APG supporting Bradley testing and was accustomed to the sound of the diesel. Every Army tanker I've spoken to love the M1. Thanks for bringing back memories for me.
Maybe you don't here him but you see him from space....engine exhaust are toooo hot....
This tank was good 30 years ago maybe
@@krunobockaj464Well, considering it was built 30 years ago, that’s a pretty great time for it’s base design to have been good.
Your comment strikes me as saying “the Spitfire wasn’t a good fighter because it was easy to spot and shoot down in 1975.”
I was based at APG but in the mid 90s
As a retired 19kilo, ie .. M1 Abrams crewman. I agree with this comment. IMO choosing Chryslers entry was the best decision made. Loved, loved, loved, loved every Abrams that I ever served on. BTW that 1500h.p turbine won because of longevity! She also had a 6 speed Allison transmission. The turbine was also quieter than a straight diesel, this idiot is only cherry picking!!
I was an engineer on the Bradley program and spent quite a bit of time at Aberdeen Proving Grounds supporting the test activities. Later in my career, I worked in a joint venture with GDLS and got to know the M1 engineers fairly well. They are definitely proud of the M1 and all the soldiers I've spoken with, love it.@@RandomGuy17768
The ammo stowed being in the turret being only 12 rounds for the Leo vs 35 for the M1 to me is a HUGE deal that people tend to gloss over.
Would be interesting if this was modeled in game.
@@Cyrops It is modeled though?
The Leo can only fit 12 rounds in the turret, the Abrams holds 35
@@StealthySpace7leo2A4 have 15* rounds in the 1st stage ammo rack, Abrams has 17
@@larshenrik8900 to be fair, the extra shells are just on the other side inside the Abrams turret. There are 35 shells that can be easily reached in the turret
@StealthySpace7 well the count is modeled but not the way it has to be loaded. Like mentioned in the video on screen and irl once a leopard2 has fired its first stage ammo the turret needs to be rotated and locked 90° to the right to allow the loader to remove the rounds from the hull. Imagine if that was implemented into the game how annoying that would be
I thought this was gonna be about the current WT controversy… but this is more fun
far more interesting
@@brettchadwick4124a lot more
As the current issues with Gaijin is just stupid
Tho I wish people would make just as big of a deal as the inaccuracies with the Italian C1 Ariete, which actually is missing nearly the same amount of armor in comparison
same
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Well, Italy has like 200 mains, so it is no wonder their voices drown among the whining of US mains. Also, Italy mains are already accustomed to suffering.
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 i find it very interesting how the ariete's are getting heavier but firepower and protection remains identical
As a 19k il say it’s a fine fighting machine but your ability to utilize it determines what happens same as any other weapon platform
As a 19K who wrangled an XM1 for a couple of years (later replaced with a brand new M1A1), I agree 100%... 😁 (Also: The Leo 2 has some cool features, but I prefer the M1 crew compartment.)
@@AbramsGunnerWhat does the leo2 do better than the M1 in your opinion? Better ergonomics, handling, etc.?
@@StrikeWyvern Leo is faster, consumes less fuel and has a slightly longer operational range, whilst carrying less fuel
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Yea but the US military is perfectly with that, plus the turbine just works better for the US needs
ft bliss first armor brig 4/70th batt. treat em rough
Your sourcing and reliance on academically sourced primaries is exemplary, thorough, linear, and concise. You draw a clear image of the developmental arc of each program that is simple to follow. This is easily one of your best educational efforts, and it is to be commended. Well done.
Also the background music slaps.
If I am not mistaken some if not all of it was from "Gunner, Heat, PC" which is a great game and a good choice for the topic.
Shut up
Someone please translate this sentence to babby please
I bet Boeing is involved somehow…….
I was a young private in 78 and going to school at APG. I remember marching past the shop and getting a chance to see the XM1. Hell we didn’t even know what the name was at that time. I asked my platoon sergeant and he knew nothing about it. I told him I’d love to drive that thing.
Two weeks before graduation I was woken up at 0330 by my PS. Myself and another private were take to the shops. We were give a short 30 min block of instruction on how to drive the XM1. An hour later we were driving the massive tank. We may not have been the first private to drive it but we were one of the first.
The next day we return and drove down tank trails to a gun range. There we drove while they fired that main gun. I was hooked for life. At the end of my four year enlistment I re-enlisted as a 19K20 and sent to Fort Knox. I spent 16 years rolling all over the world in my M1.
I don’t know if it was better than those others but I do know it took us to the Fulda Gap, Fort Irwin, and in 91 it took me to Baghdad and back. So yes I believe we had the best tank ever seen on the battlefield.
Great story
Did you see any combat
I’m so glad to see you doing another historical video, hope you do more ❤
Well done Spookston. Your historical videos are always welcome as far as I'm concerned, and I hope it was a welcome change of pace for you. Merry Christmas, and I hope you can remain in good health and high spirits.
IIRC wasnt there further controversy with the US Leo, where during driving tests it was found that the Leo was rather fast, faster than what was initially believed which lead to a full inspection of the vehicle which found that the tank had completely lacked its composite armor which negatively impacted the opinion on the Leo and its actual capabilities?
He mentions the missing armor in the video.
The early Leopard 2A2 was actually designed around spaced armor proof against up to 35mm autocannon (and also had only passive light, not thermal like the Leo 1A3) and the Leopard 2AV was a Leo 2A2 with some cheaper components. The German version of Chobham armor and the thermal sights did not make into the Leo 2 until the Leo 2A4. All Leo 2A2s were brought up to Leo 2A4 standard by 1986.
Not sure about how these comparisons were set up during the M1/Leopard competition, but when I went through Army acquisition training in the late 2000s, we were strongly urged not to set up any sort of quantitative comparison. No points systems. No weighted averages across the various criteria. Systems met or exceeded the criteria. Rolling that up into a specific selection was the job of the experts on the selection board so that the lawyers and vendors couldn't try to reverse engineer the competition so their favored system won during a lawsuit.
Another military personnel using secret military information to win a Internet debate lol
@@matthewfox1561General government systems acquisition strategy is not classified. In fact they basically have to tell the vendors this.
Easily one of my favorite videos from you! If you ever feel burned out from making War Thunder content, I would love to see more of these!
Man, if there's ever a story of military procurement where there isn't some degree of scandal I'll be genuinely surprised.
You did great with this video.
There's always a mess. Even the M1 Garand was a fiasco lurching from one major design flaw to another but right when it needed to be it worked and was the first standard issue semi-automatic rifle.
Probably is a thing in most big projects honestly. Having it be government lead just introduces obvious complications and incompetence. Being that it's the government there's also tax payers that expect some kind of accountability and transparency.
The Garand had quite a few tribulations in development. The caliber change, the problems with the gas trap gun and the ammo being just a few. Also, politics. You had Melvin Johnson muddying the waters with his rifle, which also brought an Army vs. Marine Corps aspect to the party. The 1941 Johnson was a better rifle than the Garand in a number of ways, but the Garand had already been adopted, was in production, and was being steadily improved. Moreover, Johnson himself was a freewheeling asshole who alienated just about everyone he came in contact with.
@@davefinfrock3324 Ian McCollum has been pretty lukewarm on the Johnson overall, it had a lot of fundamental flaws like being reloaded with two stripper clips rather than a single en-bloc clip.
The Garand rifle was a fundamentally sound design that had faults that could be fixed. If you could identify the faults in time to fix them.
The strippers were considered a positive from the aspect of using already existing clips and bandoleers. Also, higher mag capacity and the ability to top up without ditching unused ammo. The biggest advantage the Johnson had was if you had access to barrel blanks and tubing, you could make the thing in your garage. It's main problem was it just came along much later than the Garand. And Melvin Johnson.
The MBT 70 also turned into the Leopard 2, they split but each then developed the tank into what they wanted, with most of the r&d done with the failed tank.
hardly a failure... it spawned both the Leopard 2 and the M1
This is the first historical video I’ve seen from spookston and honestly I think it’s my favorite of his videos I’ve ever seen. Can’t wait to see what else he covers in the future
M1 abrams irl:🗿
M1 abrams in warthunder:💀
WT nerfing the M1's armor by half for balance...
@@thorinth3079ah yes game balance like how veiw optics or driver hatches can block 88mm rounds when they wouldn't even slow it down...
@@thorinth3079not by half, they removed it entirely 😭
@@emulation2369 it's war thunder, tell me why can a t34 driver's hatch block a long 90mm
@@TankboiDeng tiger hatch can block it as well so stop b1tching
Day 4 of asking spookston to play the arl 44 tank destroyer
I think he already did that. Although it is a very good tank if you angle the front well and not expose your sides
@@xemus30 I'm just asking for him to play it cus I really like playing it
@@Meez2.0 same bro. French AP based
Never even knew there was a scandal about the M1. Super informative, well edited and all around enjoyable. Good job, Spooks, I hope you can do more of these historical vids again in the near future.
I genuinely enjoy your historical videos Spookston. I appreciate they take a lot of time and work, but I hope you bring us more in the future!
Who else thought this was about Gaijin not adding DU to the hull of the abrams?
“The Abrams Scandal” can be interpreted one of two ways
The historical videos are wonderful! I really love seeing you stretch your legs with the production effort put into this video, I know it isn’t easy. As far as a suggestion goes, I’d love to see a deep dive into the M551 replacement program, from the Sheridan itself all the way to the M10 Booker today.
And on a related note,an explanation on why the military was so in love with the Shillelagh.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 mmm that’s a great idea, would love to hear about that from someone more dedicated than I.
The Sheridan was a really good looking tank, it would have been a winner if attractiveness was important 😊.
General Dynamics was the primary designer of the M1. Considering it was a offshoot branch that was owned by chrysler, is only a side point.
I worked on aspects of that tank when it was in Prototype phase mostly on the bearings and bogie axles. I close friend of mine, who had been on John Dynamics list of Consulting Engineers and still is to this day, was instrumental in the design phase of the turret, but slightly more attuned to the Metallurgy and the function of how the armor would function and the specific Metals involved plus he had to get them to understand that if you're going to heat treat the entire turret at one time it will take a number of days, not just several hours. Some of the engineers did not understand how metal has to be tempered because of the sensitive nature of our work neither one of us knew we were working on the same overall project because we're working on different aspects of it. But both of us did run into Engineers who didn't understand some of the things they were doing with the metals that they were using. In my case there were certain bearings that were coming in that had to be ground to a very very low tolerance dimension that had flaws in them, sometimes very serious that were caused by quenching it too soon after the forging process while the metal was still somewhat molten in its interior. To the point where up to 20% of them were just plain junk, I did machine them and I sent them back to them and they had the audacity to say that it was myself who was causing the flaws in them. When I was taking them out with my bare hands, showing that I was not getting the metal near hot enough to cause any such damage. When representatives of the company showed up to the shop, I opened a brand new box of a slightly different alloy, that was one of the things they were testing, and found three of them in the top row alone that already had the damage on them while still in the box.
There was no argument after that point. The reason it was not being seen is because they had put a black oxide coating on it that made it very hard to see these rather clear flaws that showed up immediately as soon as you started Machining them. I could see them because I have really really good vision. Plus I had to handle them and when you handled them you could feel the imperfections in them and you would literally cut yourself if you were not careful in handling them. If you handle them only from the outside while packing them, you may never see the flaw on the interior.
As for the overall design, I was familiar with the design of the General Motors application, and the General Motors was not anywhere close to the capabilities of the M1. I had worked on General Dynamics designs on the aircraft in the air force, and some of those computers were the same ones that were in that tank, and they were Flawless for their application
I straight up forgot you had another historical video in the works. Happy to see it, thanks for the early Christmas present. Also happy to hear some genuine debunking of theories of suspected corruption, no often that happens nowadays.
Spookston, this video is a real treat for us! Such high quality and very good narration by you. It is a real step up from your usual gameplay content which is also good, but this is just on another level. Thanks and congrats!
I like the style, realy good intro. And i like how you explicitly show page and text from the documents you use for sources. I heavely respect that.
I love how the Abrams is completely different in War Thunder in the way that you can hear them from 3 maps away completely
So much for realism lol
It just an game sure it more realistic but it not a sim also if you compare it gunner heat pc the game is more realistic but it only has 80s era tanks while war thunder have wwii to modern and plane same with dccs its more realistic than war thunder but wt is more accessible it on ps5 and Xbox and who know maybe on the Nintendo console
IRL look what Ukraine is getting. Do we really even know what's up with those 31 tanks or so. By the time we see the Abrams actually fighting...well Russia will have won the war.
@@gags730the unit operating them is in operational reserve. Training and waiting to respond to a Russian breakthrough in their sector.
@@gags730 "Russia will have won the war." Not likely, they invaded nearly two years ago and were pushed back to the far east. Since then they have made no meaningful progress.
@@l3ete1geuse WRONG! After I explain a few things to you I will literally explain how you know Ukraine is losing, actually LOST... The Westen media is the ones to unknowingly prove it without stating it. You my friend have no idea... None. They filled Your head with propaganda and now thats all you mumble.
The first thing you need to do when it comes to Ukraine (or any conflict for that matter) is to understand the geography because it is by far the most important thing to a conflict for a myriad of reasons. In Ukraine, East of the Dnipro it's basically one huge farm with scattered villages, few large towns, and few cities. If you live in the US you would find these cities to be more like towns than large US cities.
The next issue is that there is not a lot of forested area and the geography is quite flat. Then you have the physical soil/ground that is a nightmare for vehicles when the land is wet or not frozen and there is cloud cover and actual seasonal weather.
Combining all these factors and fighting a modern war in Ukraine is a complete nightmare that is very challenging to solve. Once you understand the geography and the weather you will better understand the decisions made in the conflict. It is a Slow-moving conflict. Ukraine has had the better part of a decade to fortify a defense in the Eastern half of the country.
This conflict is not a 'Blitzkreig' and it never has been. When the SMO started and Russia went in, it was to force Ukraine to the table before a full conflict kicked off and there was turning back. Common sense shows us that Russia could not take a city like Kyiv with the small amount of men they had.
They know this, Ukraine knows this, and most people with common sense know this and fully understand this. Sadly the communications broke down. (negotiations were ongoing in Turkey).
This was totally blown up with propaganda that Russia could not take Ukraine or Kyiv when the sole purpose of the initial invasion was more like a scare tactic...and it failed because negotiations broke down. Personally, Putin did not expect that and this was his error. That would change as we have already seen in hindsight.
The reason why the area controlled by Russia shrunk from the invasion of Ukraine is simply common sense and logistics. Russia's goal in all of this is not to take all of Ukraine, it never was...repeat never was. It does not want it.
What Russia wants they have made very clear before the SMO. The propaganda by the West is to make you think they are the Germans of WW2 on a blitzkrieg and have failed. That is not the case and it never has been. War is fluid and Russia caught on to the best way to defeat Ukraine. It's very simple. Slow Down and Wear them down.
Remember their goals are not the goals of the West. Russia has completely different goals than what the News airs on Western News -TV and Media. If Ukraine is on the Offensive and attacking then the casualties for Ukraine will be extremely high. That is a fact, that is what happens in war. All Russia does is apply pressure to the front line and in response Ukraine feeds them into the meatgrinder.
Its a simple formula Ukraine seems to not get the problem or the answer because they keep feeding men into areas where they are outgunned exponentially and the excuse from Ukraine is that their howitzers are more precise... Really?
So you would rather be on the side that shoots 4 rounds than the side that is going to shoot 20 rounds at you. The excuses and reasoning are complete BS and displays the incompetence.
When do you wake up and understand the next bigger, badder weapon will not work and that the excuses they give for failure are just pathetic... Some favorite excuses have been - there are too many land mines...or the grass is too high! Really?
How do you KNOW Ukraine is losing?... from the Western Media.
So if you pay attention to the war a few things have been mentioned by Western news sources. With a little common sense and math, Ukraine has lost the war already.
Pay attention to the number of people that have joined the Ukraine Military. I dont care how they got in the military, that is not important only the numbers are.
So when the conflict started Ukraine was estimated to have some 1.1 to 1.3 million men (published in Wikipedia). So since Feb 2022 they have been adding men to the military. Over time we saw the standards drop so that Ukraine could get even more men. They started to take what is deemed the 'sick, lame, and lazy'. These are people with HIV, Hepatitis along with people that had physical issues and even people with mental disabilities.
Now pay attention to the 'Western' news. They claim that Ukraine only had about 170K casualties (Dead and Wounded) The Guardian and the NY Times both dropped the article on Aug 18, 2023. Followed by an article by Le Monde (France) on Aug 24th. Going by that rate let's say they lost 250K for the start of the new year. If you started with over a million and have been actively recruiting the whole time...Almost 2 Years!... then HOW are there articles stating that Ukraine is low on men?
HOW is the average soldier in the Ukr military now Over 43 Years old?? If you only lost some 200K men you would NOT have any issues with manpower. NONE ... Let that sink into your brain... Think about it a different way... Let's say the only losses were from men that joined in the last 18 months... even if all those men got wiped off the face of the plane you would still not be low on men.
UKRAINE has Exhausted it supply of men. The propaganda machine can spit out anything it wants but the outcome has been determined. War is Done when you do not have men left to die...
Haven't finished the video, but glad to see another one of these! Always love seeing them!
Unsure if you do requests, but I think a fun tank to research would be the FV510 Warrior.
Yes please. The Warrior had such a peculiar development cycle
Merry Christmas Spooksie! Thanks for being the beat WT creator out there. You made my teatr better.
Amazing video, not just the content, but also the editing, and the delivery. I love these types of historical videos so much! Informative, sourced and to the point. I am not going to say I'd like to see more, because it is pretty obvious it takes a long time to document and put together, unlike a vehicle playthrough video.
Grew up in Lima Ohio. Served on M1 A12 and M1A2s for a decade. Worked every position on the beast plus Master Gunner. Loved riding the turbo battle tractor. Best job I ever had.
Really awesome to see Spookston do another historical tank video we always appreciate it and quite a nice early Christmas gift too!
*Merry Christmas To Everyone! And Thanks Spookston!*
This is great! I used to really enjoy your 5minute video essays during the pandemic, I really love these kind of videos
I missed this format of videos. Perhaps when your health condition improves you will be able to intereview more tank crewmen, it would be interesting to hear about more unique tanks such as the K2 Panther, Type 10 and Merkava.
I play Battletech with a former Abrams crewman and he’s a super chill guy.
Amazing video. Appreciate the in depth discussion around tank selection. I know this is unlikely to be one of your most viewed but it is one of my favorites on your channel so far.
$1,000,000 in 1970 has the same purchasing power as $7,753,608.25 today, meaning if the MBT-70 went into immediate production, it would be a very expensive tank. Good video!
Spookston you should try the T55amd-1 i find it fun at that br as it has a good lineup and can be very overpowering especially in down tiers
Ngl these history videos are the reason I'm subscribed. You don't do them often, but they're always worth watching when you do.
I love to see these videos about history more now its great, keep up the great work spookston.
I wish there was a breakdown video like this for the YF-22 vs YF-23 ATF competition. Great video.
Yessir a history video, and it’s 20 minutes long!!??🍿merry christmas spookston
Please do more of these! I love reading the background stories and developements of the vehicles we know and love
one of your best videos made to date
don't let the length scare you, and I hope the analytics do well enough that you can make more!
Fantastic video, these are myths I'd always wanted to look into myself and you did an amazing job of summarizing but still being thorough. Hope to see more videos like this in the future!
Really like the video and hope to see more like this in the future. Compared to your earlier vids, your speaking ability, confidence, and overall video quality has significantly improved. Keep up the good work Spook.
You should do more historical/informational videos like this! Keep up the good work spook, and have a merry christmas!
great video spook! i loved how you showed the sources on screen, it was very informative
I love that you used the GHPC soundtrack.
I enjoy your old historical videos and this reminds me of your old videos so i really like this
This is such a great video. I love your normal stuff, but you have a talent for these history videos. Don’t let yourself get hung up on the editing.
As always just amazing work Spookston! Keep on keepin on brother.. love your content, whether it's fun game play or suffering, or even just history and facts on vehicles.. thanks again
You have a gift man. A lot of wisdom, speaking and teaching ability. I appreciate seeing you in your element.
I was alittle sad cuz I had thought you stopped doing these... glad to see you still are. I like the warthunder content don't get me wrong but I love these even more
I absolutely adore your historical videos. I know a lot of people won't view them as much as the more immediate gratification of War Thunder content, but, I just wanted to say how much I appreciate all the effort you went into here! Merry Christmas!
All the dedication and research you`ve put in this video/documentary is amazing. Love your historic videos, please keep up the amazing work and have a Merry Christmas, wish you all the best!! 😁😁
they should make a movie about it, GM VS Chrysler , like Ford VS Ferrari
the GHPC soundtrack is just fire with this video
Very happy to see you return to this form of video. I understand them to be labor intensive but they are very worth it from the viewer perspective. Look forward to your next one
I am so glad that we have finally gotten another historical video, thank you so much Spookston! It was a great 20 minutes, which felt like a lot less.
I love these types of videos. Have you thought about doing this type of video on the development of other tanks like the challenger, leclerc, ariete, etc btw?
In 1980 I volunteered to go to APG Maryland to undergo training on the Chrysler XM1 Tank. After training, I went to to the US Army Cold Region Test Center at Fort Greely, Alaska. I was on one of the three tank crews to winter test the XM1 Tank. The weather conditions at Fort Greely was super cold and windy. The snow on the mobility test route became slippery because the packed down snow became icy. The tank had massive traction issues. I was the driver, the tank crashed many times into trees after losing traction. The requirements of the mobility runs was to go round and round the course putting miles on the tank. The tank had data recorders which stored information about how the tank was performing.
The next phase was firing live 105mm 735 Sabot rounds. We did not shoot training rounds. We fired during the day and at night using the thermal sights. Because my tank crew gunner had to return home to Fort Riley, Kansas, I moved to the gunner position. At the completion of winter testing, I returned to Fort Polk, Louisiana. My MOS was changed from 19E20 to 10K20. I was transferred to Fort Knox, Kentucky to the 6th Armored Cav which was one of the first units to receive the XM1 Tank. The XM1 was adopted by the Army, it was renamed the M1 Abrams.
In 1981 The son of General Abrams was at Fort Knox. He was a West Point Plebe. The Lieutenants in my Tank Company kept calling Abrams name so I could see he was destined to make General one day.
The XM1 Tank we tested had a Auxiliary Power Unit which could start the Tank if the battery's were depleted. The cost of the APU was $1,000,000. The Army did not adopt the APU Unit. During Testing there was over two dozen Chrysler Defense Engineering Reps there observing the testing and making necessary repairs. The thermal sight failed and had to be replaced. A new unit was flown to Alaska. The Chrysler Mechanics replaced the sight. The tank continued doing mobility testing until the sight arrived. We had to sit around doing nothing while the tank was being repaired
The GM Tank was the better Tank and so was the German Leopard. Because Congress would never allow the Army to purchase main battle tanks from Germany, the Leopard never had a serious chance. Chrysler was awarded to contract which helped to bail it out of bankruptcy. The US was not going to allow Chrysler to fail. During the Winter Testing the only two tanks there. One was a M60A1 and the other was the XM1. There was no tank from GM to winter test. This meant that the decision was already made to award the contract to Chrysler.
Very interesting, thank you for the comment
That was really cool, I don't know all the nuances of the development of these machines. I hope you keep doing historical videos Spookston. Merry Christmas!
Merry Chistmas Spookston. Thanks for all the video's you have made over the year while batteling with your health! You are a great example to us all!
I am fairly new to the channel and thought you only did WT videos so this was a very pleasant surprise. This is pretty cool to learn about the history of such an iconic tank so I appreciate it. Although I am curious if you are/had been in the military at all? (Not that it would matter tbh)
nope he hasn’t? If I remember from a qna a while back
Glad to see a return to the longer vids about history and misconceptions 👍
We waited a long time for this, thank you spookston! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, spookston! Enjoy your content and watch all of it, i thank you
Another history video awesome!
Ret. Col. Douglas Mc.Gregor former tank commander finds m1 abraham engines stupid.
Retired Col. Douglas McGregor is often wrong
amazing video, extremely interesting!!! love to see historical video again! Also, I love the length, it includes crucial details but constantly kept me focused cuz the content is interesting for a tank nerds like us!
congrats Spookston you made imo the best video on CZcams that talks about the creation of one of the best tanks on Earth. Merry Christmas for you and thanks for the video
banger of a video as always Spook. Love your historical videos. Merry Christmas
Fantastic as always, keep up the good work!
Well thought out and presented. Gladly shared. Nice job, Spook.
This is a hell of a Christmas present, well researched, well documented, informative, and interesting. Thank you! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Spookston Glad to see your historical vids again keep it up:)
Fantastic video man, I could watch you do documentaries all day.
Absolutely love the old CRT tv used to play the video, keep up the great work Spookston.
Merry Christmas 🎄
Merry Christmas, Spookston! Thank you for a great video
I've been inside of an M1 and a Leopard 2, and I can say definitively that just based on how much room the crew members have inside, I would much rather be in an Abrams than in a Leopard.
very odd considering the leo weighs more huh
@@peterl3417and the Leo is bigger.
During cold war testing the M1 and Leopard 2 traded blows for who would come out on top, it was only during tests where the crew had to stay fully sealed in the tank for long periods such as during NBC tests that the Abrams pulled away.
Hmmm in overall performance the leopard outperformes the abrams 🤷🏼♂️
@@Future183 Other than fuel economy everything else is unknown about the two 🤔
Another day for asking spookston to play the m1a1 click bait.
Thank you for your many hours of informative and diverse video content Spookston. Merry Christmas to you and yours. Our lives are built upon the memories we build. May yours be filled with much laughter and love!
your historical videos are extremely informative, thanks for all your effort
As always, great work. thank you for this amazing documentary.
i loved this video, i would love to see more longer informative videos like this one. keep up the good work!!!!!!
I love the long videos spookston. I love how much you go into depth. Although I thought you were going to talk on the topic of the abrams true armor values and things missing to the one in war thunder, this was a very interesting video.
Great video. The "M1 Scandal" was always something that i considered interesting. This video simply put more fuel to the flame. I always love the historical videos. I would like to see you make a video on the late and post WW2 american heavy tanks such as the M103, T32 and the obscure prototypes. Merry christmas🎄🎄
i love the design choice of the tv from what look likes the 70s instead of just videos in the background
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I would love a podcast where you just talk about stuff like this.
great and informative video. i love your gameplay videos, but this format is a breath of fresh air and i hope you start making these kind of videos again
Great stuff - love the variety and sourcing!
this felt like watching a movie. this was one of the best video's i may have seen the past year! Good job mr spook!
God I love these type of videos. Keep it up
Really informative and entertaining. It’s clear you worked hard on this, thank you. Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Spookston, thanks for the awesome video.
Very interesting to actually learn about the history behind the Abrams rather than just the rumours you generally hear about the turbine engine etc, would like to see one of these about the challenger I’m very biased to see it do well but honestly don’t know anything much about it
Can you do a video on the design and history of the CV90 family?
Spookston, this video was amazing. Your mix in comedy was great. Thank you. Merry Christmas 🎄
Thanks for all the hard work put into this christmas gift from you. Very well done Vid mate!