Trex Arms Vs. Tier One Concealed - Axis Vs. Sidecar. Side by Side Comparison.
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Trex Arms Vs. Tier One Concealed. The debate that will never die.These two holsters seem to be what everyone is deciding between. I have carried both for years. Two great Appendix style Holsters. Thought this video might help you make a decision. Both great Holsters. Axis or Sidecar what did you pick?
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Trex arms gives you a discount if you do your duty to carry everyday, pledge to legally carry, and promise to protect yourself and others. Now if that isn’t American, I don’t know what is 🇺🇸🦅
Carrying is always legal, shall not be infringed
@@blbreptiles4126 Not if you're a felon.
@@percyfaith11 Why are you out of jail of you sren't fit to own a gun?
@@percyfaith11 shall not be infringed
@@percyfaith11 well that's not very 2a
"You're gonna buy 3 shitty ones than buy this one anyway"
*looks down in shame*
I just went straight for vedder. Only ever bought 1 holster, only one i needed
@@stillrob97 Vedder is one of the few exceptions to the cheap holster rule.
@@mikelangelo2020 their customer service is awesome too. I bought their owb holster and ordered the pancake clips but they missed them in my original package and when i messaged them about it no questions asked they have a set in the mail for me already
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In regards to the pricing, if anyone needs justification... here it is: "Buy once, cry once!" OR "Buy NICE or buy TWICE!". Especially for something that's gonna be carrying a firearm that may potentially save your life... (or anything really relating to firearms/tools being used for self defense) GET QUALITY SHIT. DO NOT get UNCLE BOB'S/MIKE'S Leather holsters from your local outdoor sporting goods stores... they are garbage and sometimes even dangerous.
Well said Drew! Words of wisdom
I wish I did this from the start. I’ve wasted so much money on cheap products.
Agreed on the price topic. I wish price wasn’t even factored in when comparing the 2 models. Certain things are important so I think in a world where everyone is walking around with a thousand dollar cell phone in their pocket, the price of a holster should be irrelevant. Great video!
POV- me replying on my iPhone 6s
I work in IT, and I find the idea of anyone spending anywhere close to 1k on their phone to be hilarious. Oh, you bought 1/20th of a gaming computer for the same price? Very smart.
I will definitely try one of those holsters, I also appendix carry. Greatly appreciate the time, and work to put this video together. As with the real facts, and opinions on good quality products.
Good job bro. Explanation along with side comments base on your experience was spot on. Yes, it really depends on the end user but a frank review really helps in sales of the individual product. Rock on!
I think you answered every question I had. Awesome video man. Tier 1 for me but Lucas and T Rex are great. Thanks for the help dude
Thank you for doing this video! Now confident in my choice! 🙌
Plan to appendix carry here very soon and excited to try it out!
You’re welcome!
I absolutely appreciate the detailed explanation of your business relationship with each company at the start of the video. Automatic thumbs up!!! Keep it up and people will appreciate the transparency!!!
It's missing or incomplete in most of YT videos
First time I see your video, love the analysis, honest review and truth to the viewers when they're "not always right". I see this vid is a year old so I hope you didn't switch your style
Thanks for watching!
Transparency is everything
Glad you mentioned the claw slipping a bit when wearing cheaper belts on the Tier 1. Not a big deal but I noticed this as well. Very helpful video for those shopping around.
Robert Woodall thanks for watching Robert!
On the topic of belts, my "gun belt" is 1.5" wide, but the Tier 1 holsters are equipped with 1.75" clips... so there's room for slop. I'm wondering if that slop is acceptable for most or if I should either get a holster with 1.5" clips instead or a belt with 1.75" clips... Thoughts and what do you wear?
@@anonypersona3189 I have only used a 1.5 inch wide belt with my Tier 1 holster and haven't had any issues with "slop" in regard to the clips. It is not noticeable and acceptable at least for me. My first belt was pretty flimsy but I have a Blue Alpha Gear belt ordered so hopefully that will help things a bit.
@@robertwoodall8871 Glad to hear! Yeah, I ended up ordering a Tier 1 but I've heard some people complaining about the 1.75" clips when using the common 1.5" belts while waiting for the order to be fulfilled. I did some searching around and worst case I'll buy some 1.5" aftermarket clips to rig with the Tier 1. Thanks!
Have you tried the ulticlip? That’s all I’ve used and they don’t move. Maybe it’s because I rarely wear belts so I’m in a different category.
Very underrated content, covers shit no one is talking about that are details that are quite significant. Love your videos bro. Subbed.
Appreciate the love man! Welcome to the channel.
Good stuff Ryan! Disappointed with the lack of idiotic comments so far though lol! Love my T1C holsters and will never switch!
This guy is my favorite of the Franco brothers.... all jokes aside, awesome review!!
Great review, I've had the axis elite for my P365 for 2 weeks now, first appendix holster. I have had zero issues and see no reason to try anything else. Little gun I know also 6'4" 215 and even in a solid color light weight shirt that thing damn near disappears.
Keep up the good work Ryan 👍
A little gun that punches harder then most full sized guns, dont be ashamed I carry an XL & sometimes an M18 depending on what im wearing
I honestly find that for me, appendix carry is way more comfortable than any other method of carry. I think the only method I haven't tried yet is belly band and shoulder holster carry. Plus, it feels more comforting knowing that my gun is on the front of my body where I can easily control access, instead of my 4-5 o'clock where it feels a little more vulnerable. Finally, it's so much more comfortable when driving compared to hip carry that I can't stand carrying on my hip while I'm in my car anymore. Not to mention that with AIWB in my car, I can actually access my gun without having to take 5 seconds to do all sorts of gymnastics lol great video, I can't say it helped me make up my mind, but I can now rest assured knowing that no matter which one of these I choose, I'm going to be very happy with it and it will be money well spent.
What are you considering for belly band? I'm brand new to edc so picking holster now but have seen belly band options and since I wear gym clothes a lot I've wondered whether this a separate "holster" altogether or which company makes a solid AIWB holster/band combo.
Man, possibly the best and most helpful review I’ve seen yet. Thanks so much! :D
Thanks for watching! 🥂
Thanks for doing the video, Ryan. Job well done on the comparison. Came your way via a comment about Trex Arms over on John Lovell's Warrior Poet Channel. Was 95% of the way on the Axis Slim. You made me feel confident in my direction. Like how you break things down. Looking forward to checking out your other stuff. Stay Safe.
I’ve seen John run that holster in person and it’s very impressive!!!
Thank you!
Tier 1 has always been good to me. Love their customer service and they’re always there to reply to a DM.
“The sidecar has been the sidecar the whole time”
Truth! I love trex arms but it’s like they refuse to adopt any changes to the sidecar that didn’t come from their brains in house. For instance they say they don’t do a Flex sidecar because of lack of consistency or keeping it together during force on force but it’s been my experience (and the experience of a lot of other people) that that isn’t necessarily the case. imo they don’t adopt the idea because A. It’s a pride thing for them and B. It’d be costly production wise. But there’s definitely a market for it and a lot of people are switching to tier 1 (myself included) and they’re definitely shooting themselves in the foot with all that.
Edit: I’d like to add that if Trex arms had a flex sidecar I 100% would’ve bought it over a tier 1 because I love Trex arms as a company and there are other features on the sidecar that I like over my axis slim. That flex center is just such a game changer that ultimately it’s something I couldn’t ignore and it’s definitely what drove me to switch.
They original had a flex or corded option.
You’re in luck now…. They just revamped the holster
I believe they came out with one now that can change
@@oatmealwheatgrain But they had to one up on Tier 1 with that hinge pin lol, if they're going to copy someone by God they're gonna greatly improve on their competitor's innovation..
Exactly the video I was looking for. Thanks for going super in depth into this. Subbing and looking forward to more videos! Maybe an edc..
Thanks Jake and welcome!
What did you go with?
Just got my holster. Took 3 days to ship got here in 2 days. Sidecar is fantastic and is really comfortable.
An excellent, informative video. Thank you!
Great thorough review! Thanks!
Awesome video, good detail
Thanks for reviewing these
Great review, very in depth! Couldn’t you argue T-Rex arms kind of created this type of platform and tier one is innovating off their design?
Nick A thank you and yes definitely. Trex was first and tier one made it better IMO
I never knew about t-rex, but t1c is expensive and worth every penny.
Great video, can't wait for tier 1 vs QVO wingman
Best holster review I’ve seen. Thanks.
Thank you Spencer!
i will say, those who want a Trex holster a little cheaper, they do sell their blem holsters and 2nd hand (probably returned) on ebay. i got mine from ebay and it works great.
Good call! Just found one on eBay for $90
@@Twinturbomach I'm glad i could help man, mine has been working well every since.
I still bought mine from Lucas, I’d rather pay a little more and support his company
@@lukasrosa9974 it is supporting his company buddy. Trex is selling their blems on Ebay lol
@@g23tog19 I see what you mean now. I read that wrong
I just checked and everything is about 100-110 per holster
Ive just recently gotten the tier one slim for my Sig P320 carry. First time ever to carry Appendix style. and I have to say I cant even tell i have it on. sitting driving bending over ive even laid down and went to sleep with it on and never even knew it was there. I love it.
Do they have sweatguards?
Does your p320 have an optic? I have a Vedder Holster that I love but going to upgrade my slide of the P320 Carry to the P320RX(which I think is literally just a slide with a cut out and romeo1 optic added on). My current holster isn’t optic ready
You must don’t like your dick with appendix carrying that gun
Thorough comparisons, thanks for this
Thank you for watching!
Found your reviews a while back and purchased Axis elite for G43 and G45. I recently got a T1-M for the G43 for unique situations and love all my holsters. I’m sure you’ve seen on the Non-light bearing Elites the concealment claw is more of a wing and I haven’t had any issues with mine slipping under or above the belt. I’m 6’4 220lbs so I really enjoyed your perspective, thanks for the reviews!
David Morgan thanks man!!!!!
Great review brother, super detailed!
Much appreciated!
Excellent breakdown video, thank you sir... was wondering if you could do an Extar EP9 review.
I just ordered a bravo concealment torsion 3.0. Good price & They have a good sale right now, and I liked the flexibility of choosing an appendix configuration or a strong side configuration. I’ll probably upgrade to a t1c axis slim eventually.
thats what i use when i carry my 19 MOS, its a great holster but i just ordered a tier 1 because im putting a tlr1 on my gun so i have to get a new holster anyway, might as well go big.
Pretty good video man you earned a new sub👌🏾
The Sidecar is my EDC for my SigP365XL. Works great and the spare mag being canted is very nice. Also the fact that it is a single piece means a slightly less possibility of failure. Buy once, cry once.
First video I watch from your channel, damn I loved the channel name
Welcome!
Trex arms is the originator of this design. Trex customer service is also top notch.
Agreed
I believe “last line of defense” was the first to make a pistol/mag carrier holster
@@920Tactical maybe. But that design originated from trex arms. They even stated that they did not patent the design to let other companies produce it or innovate from it.
🤣 trex arms has thee worst customer service I've ever dealt with. They sent me a holster that had absolutely no retention. I was told to " make it work ". They refused to fix it. They are most definitely not top notch. It's awesome you had a good experience but they literally did me the worst they could have.
@@allmyscars9039 agreed. Was a little disappointed to see how rude they can be
I have a Tier 1 for my p365 and love it. I looked to see if the made a holster and side car for my P220 legion in 45 and they do not list it. P226 ok, 1911 ok, but P220 nothing. T Rex does however. And it’s less expensive. Well done!
Thank you, friend for an excellent video. Thumbs way up
Thanks for the visit!
Thnx.for taking the time .
Great comparison 👊🏼
Another great vid Ryan! Keep it up. Hey you have any early thoughts on the Max-9 or the Plus? Are you gonna do anymore gun reviews?
That was a very fair assessment. I’ve been on the fence on buying one or the other, as they both seem very comparable in performance. And one might add more weight to one your categories over other considerations.
Excellent description of lead time
Thanks for the info great breakdown.
Thanks for watching J!
Subbed for the shirt!!!
Would love to see a new comparison with the Trex Sidecar 2.0!
Yes me too
Very nice presentation of Facts and Opinions.
FYI: Trex Arms now has a totally redesigned 2.0 holster out with a hinge and the ability to attach other things to it besides just a mag carrier, so I would check out videos on that vs the Tier 1 before making your decision. Both are good holsters.
I have one for my 365xl. It's real nice
great review, keep it up!
Thank you Pat!
You look super young bro keep it up 👍🏼
People who accuse other people of having a biased opinion are usually just butt hurt you don’t agree with them.
@Jacob Landrum what is 2A if you don't mind me asking
the phrase "biased opinion" is redundant
all opinions are biased, that's what makes them opinions
@@star.soaked.wanderer shut the fuck up
@@jacklewis3444 or what
@@star.soaked.wanderer or else he’s gonna write angry comments on the Internet
Nice video bro! Now compare the new sidecar 2.0 to the axis elite! So much more modular! I’d love to see that video!
Just got my tier1 slim using kore nylon belt. So far love the fit and the stability when I purchase- my time is improving
Congrats man! Thanks for watching
I did exactly what you said. Bought 4 holsters that were 40-80 and just ordered the T1C axis slim! Now just 2 months until it comes in. If it works. Worth the weight.
Did it ever make it?
I, personally, don't like Glock's ergos-- never have, no matter the model. But I'd be in denial to say they arent the benchmark for every pistol out there.
So... #1) I'm glad your doing your comparisons using a Glock cause we're all familiar with it's size & weight-- For now, I *still* carry a PPS which is easier to conceal than a 19. (Although, I'm thinking about 'upgrading' to a duty-size Smith). So, I know your opinions will probably be more than valid, at least for me
#2) All the holsters you're comparing here are good, quality holsters that you just cant go wrong with. I, for one, am glad to hear your 'real world' input-- even if a little biased (I dont really think so, tho)
Have both and I use the Tier 1. Nothing against Lucas and TREX. TREX does have great support and good shipping. My Tier 1 did take a while but worth it.
What do you think about an affordable tier 1 holster? (Xiphos 2) $65
How much of a bulge does the Axis Slim with a light option(tlr7a or any other light that doesn't go past the barrel) have over one without? Can you even feel the difference?
That shirt tho
Great review!
I have a trexarms sidecar on the way, excited for it.
Thanks man. Super helpful
🥂
Love the shirt
Have you done a comparison like this with the T-Rex 2.0?
Can you attach the trex claw to the tier 1 holster?
Thanks for the info
I've never been a fan of the dual clips, I've ran Last Line of Defense holsters for a while and they're great. Give them a look sometime! LLOD
They are garbage and the dude that makes Them is a fucking douche
@@eastcoastflooring4624 why are they garbage?
Why don't you prefer the dual clips? Looking at getting a new holster rn
The LLOD holsters are good, but there are others of better quality yes. I like the single clip, smaller design and it’s more comfortable, with a small gun it’s not the best though. Two clips is more sturdy and consistent IMO
@@cannonsmith7429 I'd think it would be more comfortable too, though I can see 2 clips being more sturdy. Thanks!
Is it possible to use the Trex claw on the T1 holster? Are the bolt patterns the same?
No. I tried it... The tier I bolt hole are closer together.
After research I ended up ordering an axis slim for my Glock 20 in 10mm. Fingers crossed it all works out. Thanks for the video!
How did it work out? I have a Glock 20 and am shopping for the right holster option
@@MrJBARRON Honestly it worked out really well. The holster fits great. I use it on my Blue alpha gear cobra buckle style belt. I ordered it with the TLR-1 configuration. Great holster. I’m impressed so far. Only regret is not picking a cooler color😂 If you want I could make a post on Reddit later on with pictures.
@@Not.22Man That's outstanding to hear, thanks for sharing your experience with it!
You were calling the Tier 1 the Tier 1 Concealed but on their website they don’t have anything with that name. The Tier 1 Axis Elite or the Axis Slim looks like what you had in this video. Which one was it?
Have you ever looked into the Tenicor Velo4?
I had the T. Rex Sidecar less than 24 hours before I returned it. Quality product, just not comfortable for someone who is 5'9 195 with a dad bod-ish type body.
Do they make these to fit the hellcat? I looked on trex arms. Idk if maybe I need the one for the 365 or ppq and it’ll just fit it.
What does the Tier 1 with no sweat guard look like?
I know this holster is made for appendix carry but can you try the tier 1 slim at the 4 o’clock position and let me know if it would also work this way or not?? Thank you.
It will not but that make a sweet holster for that that I’ll have a video on this spring
Great video
Thank you Ron!
Ahhh! Subscribed for Life.
What do u think about the LLOD holster?
T-Rex arms hands down one of the best holsters on the market. I run the sidecars for pretty much every one of my edcs
Agree. Great people, great products
@@Hangfire79 I have it too. No ones perfect. I try to not judge. We all own things by companies with less than stellar records. Be careful.
your shirt and then "ive been quarantined" lol
I have a loose G43x I’ve noticed with my new axis elite. It moves side to side about 2/3 mm left and right. Does your Glock do the same? Awesome video brother keep it up!
Cole H hey man thank you ! No mine does not. Try tightening the tension screws. Let me know if that helps. A little movement isn’t a problem as long as it’s not a retention issue
What is the difference better the slim and Agis?
Do they make left handed versions?
That shirt is 🔥
good job
I was looking at T1C May 22, and they now have some quick ship options.
I have a glock 20 gen 4 with a TLR-1 streamlight on it. Do you have a holster for this weapon? Thanks.
Yes Tier 1 offers a holster for that pistol model and light combo , even if they did not have it. Contact them and they will make it to your specs.
Thank you so very much, God bless you and yours
Have you done a vid on the new T Rex holster that has a bendable hinge and options?
What do you think would be the appendix holster for me ? I’m 5’6 170
Check out wild gunner holster rentals and try them out! On instagram or google
Some of have very little choice if we are left handed have a weapon light and don't use glock or Smith and Wesson. Tier 1 is the only sidecar like holster of quality that offers left hand draw while supporting a web light I have found so far.
Great video! You mentioned that people or companies would allow you to rent them. I have carried appendix for that last 10yr and looking to go with the combination style. I would like to try look or possibly try them before buying just because the price. Are there certain companies that you know of that could possibly do that? Thanks again and great video.
Danielshorsemanship thank you so much! The wild gunner is the company I follow and see
Embrace the Recoil thank you for the info. However, the only Glock 19 holsters they have for they T1 are gen5 and mine is a 3. Are there other companies that you know of or a place that sales 2nd hand holsters?
Danielshorsemanship I don’t I’m sorry. Try tacswap
Actually I'm comparing both of them to the TXC holster that I have
Bought a Tier One axis, has broken 5 times and been replaced 3 times. Bend radius cracks along pistol ejector on slide. Broke at 3 months, then 1 year, then 5 months. Finally quit replacing it. Holster is now jb welded heavy in two places where bend radius cracks kept forming. Would not buy again. Quality and improved design needed. The bends are on the T Rex have wider radiuses and seems a more durable design.
The pistol make was P229. Tier 1 did replace the holsters at no charge, but who wants to replace the $140 holster every 6 months or less? 6'3", 185#. T1C is a fast draw and fairly comfy, conceals quite well. Design just puts too much shear stress on the slide bend and claw when I squat, move, or sit ( I drive 3 hours a day) and forms cracks. Just my experience.
I usually lean towards trexarms but ya can't go wrong with either IMHO.
Mjacksonian 1 definitely agree
Love my Tier 1, but to let other CZ P10 F owners know. The Axis for the P10 F with a TLR-1 does not work lol. I believe it could work without a TLR-1. It makes the holster just long enough to stab you when you sit. Granted I’m the dummy trying to EDC a P10 F with a giant flashlight on it. No grudge on Tier 1, super high quality!
I’m wondering if wearing this holster with gym shorts will cause the gun to either be drawn down or pushing outwards?
Unless it’s a very small gun this will weigh you down too much in my experience
Tier1Concealed during normal demand have lead times of 10-15 days. Their lead times have continued to increase as people panic buy guns and ammo because of Covid. Hoping that comes back down soon.
Don't worry, we'll get back to a good lead time. Thanks for being understanding 👊
@@guns_n_graphics I know you will!! I totally understand that you can't decrease lead times without exposing yourselves to issues when demand returns to normal. I'm just glad I got my new Axis Elite before it got up to 5 weeks!
Colin Nielsen I ordered the Tier 1 slim last night, John Lovell sold me on it. This video is reaffirming my decision. Lol
@@Real_Josh_King that's awesome!!! Super happy to hear that and welcome to the fam👊
@@tristan4543 yeah it is wild in the shop right now! We're attempting to expand building operations so that we can get our lead times back down to a reasonable time frame. I'm excited that you're excited! What did you order?
I am a trex customer and love them.
Shootbang76 yea great dudes and company