WAS I TRIPPIN?! | The Joker vs Pennywise. Epic Rap Battles Of History (REACTION)
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“As far as Mr King goes Im a shining man, wink” is also a flip on how Jack Nicholson played the joker and the dude in the shining
Also calls to how King hated that version
Actually, this is a dig on Stephen King, who HATED the Kubrick version of the Shining, which took some liberties with his book, and yet remains the most popular version, despite King trying to remake it TWICE. That is a swipe at the author!
@@joevarner9447 it's a double so both y'all are right
Yeah, it counts as the one Nicholson reference (the rap pretty much hints at least at each of the actors who played the Joker once - including Mark Hamill).
I was just about to say that too! Jack Torrance is the character in The Shinning! Love that line.
"I leave scars, guards at arkham..." Skarsgard played Pennywise, so the line can read "I leave Skarsgard at Arkham". Dope wordplay.
also if anyone saw "Castle Rock" 2018 Skarsgard played a character that was locked in a hole for years so...."I leave Skarsgard at Arkham"...
And in the video, he wraps and unwraps his hands around the bars as he says it, as if he's trying to let you know those lines "wrap around" themselves, i.e. they're basically all one line from start to finish. Idk. I overthink shit a lot too 🤷
It's not even just that, the line before was "shoo you down the drain so fast they'll call you Tim Scurry" Tim Curry played the first Pennywise, so they referenced both actors in those couple bars
DAMN I didn't even catch that! Nice one!
Also says “scars guards in Arkham would admit I just killed IT” is saying even you would say I just killed you.
"You're supposed to be The Man Who Laughs" from Pennywise is a play on the 1928 film "The Man Who Laughs" which served as a partial inspiration for the Jokers character design. A really nice big brain film punch on that one if you catch it.
"You're a John Doe in my Dead Lights and You're about to fall from a new height" is also a punch at Jokers character origin since the Jokers identity is not know "John Doe" and comic cannon is he fell from the high catwalk at Axis Chemicals into a chemical vat giving birth to the Joker
@@Stratimone in the Telltale games the person who eventually becomes Joker is called John Doe so that bad is like a triple
Not just that, it's also the title of a comic by Ed Brubaker that is the modern version of Batman's first encounter with Joker.
@@callumcurry2984 they chose the name John doe because John doe is for an unidentified body in Wich joker is as noone knows his real name
@@Stratimone "and You're about to fall from a new height" can also be a reference to the fate of Jack Nicholson's Joker in Batman (1989), who falls from a belltower to his death.
"I'm the poster boy for missing person's posters." Is kinda gnarly ngl
I think people sleep on Pennywise’s last couple bars. This one and the John Wayne Gacy (famous serial killer who dressed like a clown) bar are fire.
@@alvarodiaz779 people do that because they like Joker more, Pennywise had so many petty, funny, and downright amazing verses.
Plus his flow was just better.
@@alvarodiaz779 yeah, “I’m the John Wayne of John Wayne Gacys” is a big flex.
The “Im a Shining man” bar was cause Jack Nicholson was in The Shining and also played the Joker in Batman 89
And the Shining was the most popular film adaptation that King made, even though King hated it.
Absolutely
@@Roosauec specifically that is the extra dig.
@@youtubesucksbutts And the extra extra dig King made his own made for TV adaptation and it is panned. So Jack Nicholson (Joker) can do King better than King himself.
"We live in a society" has been a punchline for pretty much anything for a while now. Basically a way to say "the world's fucked but we live in it."
We live in a society, meme.
i thought the punchline was simply the sarcasm of Joker saying it, since he is anti-social and the joke is very choerent with his crazy attitude of flipping things up without taking anything too seriously.
referencing the meme
It could also be a reference to the Jokers unusual patriotism In a marvel crossover. He was working with red skull. Then he found out he was an actual Nazi. He then proceeded to turn on red skull stating ‘I may be a lunatic but I’m an American Lunatic’
The whole thing is kind of strange; Lenin wrote in one of his books "One cannot live in a society and be free from society."
So I'm actually wondering if whoever came up with the "We live in a society" meme used that line and shortened it (since, well, I'm pretty sure Lenin was first), or just had a very similar sounding idea, though I'll say, on face value, I personally like Lenin's line better, since it implies that you can indeed be free from society, but in order to achieve it, you can't live in one.
The new ones just states what we do live in one, and... It's kind of lacking, in comparison. Just my personal thought, though.
The John Doe bar is so underrated I appreciate you breaking it down. The Joker at times has actually been called John Doe too so it is a little diss at him too (I think it was the telltale series)
Also, the reason why Pennywise follows with the line about "Falling from a new height" is because John Doe in the telltale series falls from a building, iirc.
@@delmattia96 also Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger in their movies
@@delmattia96
1. Jokers biggest fear is being killed by a nobody, and Pennywise is basically saying “Not only can I beat you, I’m also the god of fear.” Basically insulting Joker while proclaiming his status that Joker won’t beat him because Joker will never not be scared of being killed and forgotten. (Hence John Doe because John Doe means unidentifiable dead body)
2. Doe also means Female Deer.
It also just kinda says "hey you're a nobody once you're in the deadlights"
@@delmattia96 Also an allusion to Joker's origin of falling from a catwalk into a Ace Chemicals vat.
Now this I agree with. I do think Joker gets the single hardest bar with the PG-13 thing, which is incredible considering it's up against the Heath Ledger line, and Joker is all witty and classy in a way that makes his pen stronger in general -- but Pennywise is too mean, too petty and too consistent. It lives in the sewers, what do you expect.
Joker is more of an elegant villain while pennywise is part of the sewers lol
What does that PG 13 line means
@@rojaerobinson8324 In the original book the Loser's Club had an orgy to help beat Pennywise, and they were 13 at the time. Cocaine is a hell of a drug and King loved to play in the snow back in the 80s. It shows.
@@rojaerobinson8324 The original IT novel is infamous for featuring a passage where the Losers run a train on the only female of the group while they're all still really young. Hence "how about a little more PG and a lot less 13?!".
@@rojaerobinson8324 And if you don't get what 'Run a train' means, basically Beth allowed all the Losers to fuck her silly in order to help bond the group so they could defeat pennywise. And they were all roughly 13 years old at the time.
"Harlequin of Hate" is not a reference to Harley Quinn- it really is one of his nicknames in the comics, albeit a more obscure one
Why can't it be both? I don't think anyone's disputing that it's a reference to the nickname, it's just usually also considered a Harley Quinn reference.
@@RandomPerson-fg1jf It predates Harley Quinn, and I don't think anyone "usually" considers it a Harley Quinn reference since the nickname is so obscure. Epic Lloyd is just a comic book geek so he knows this stuff.
@@jonathancampbell5231 Nobody is saying that it's not the nickname. It is the nickname.
But it is also a Harley Quinn reference. It's both.
@@RandomPerson-fg1jf ...why?
@@RandomPerson-fg1jf Except it just straight isn't a Harley Quinn reference. What, joker is saying he's also Harley Quinn? That's stupid. The name Harley Quinn in itself is a reference to harlequins. It's stupid to say that it's a reference to her. I'm guessing you have no clue what a harlequin is, since you're trying to say that it's a reference to the girl and not the idea of a harlequin.
Thats "youre as pale as the moonlight you can dance with the devil in" is a hard line.
Its a reference back to the first batman movie with Michael Keaton as the bat and Jack Nicholson the joker. In that movie it was a younger joker who killed Bats parents. When he killed them he asked "have you ever danced eith the devil under the pale moonlight" then blamo-ed them.
Later one Bruce is in his gals apartment when joker and his crew bust in and before he shot Bruce (he had a vest on so he didn't die, just pretended he did) joker asked him the same question about the dancing with the devil under the pale moon light. Bruce finally had all the answers hes searched for about who killed his parents and they became arch enemies from that line on.
Plus there was the duality where Joker "made" Batman by killing his parents and Batman "made" Joker by dropping him into a vat of chemicals.
and that reference in the batman movie is also a comic reference. I believe it was when joker caught robin and threatened to kill him at one point.
fucking blamo'ed them makes me die
He used a metal tray to stop the bullet
Pennywise already killed that Joker when he said “fall from a new height” since that Joker, who was also in the shining (so it references the Joker’s “I’m a shining man”), fell to his death
Joker got a hit in when he said
"I take smiles and I leave Scars
Guards at Arkham will admit"
There was an actor named Scarsguard who played Pennywise.
Additionally, the "We live in a society" was done for the meme. It may have been a Jared Leto thing, but it was the best thing to come from the Jared Leto Joker, and so he's owning it. Which also kind of takes some of the wind out of the Jared Leto punch Pennywise made.
Bill Skarsgård is the name of Pennywise's actor for the movies.
@@Kiss_My_Aspergers Thanks, I wasn't sure on the name, I just knew he was Scarsguard.
"We live in a society" is Joaquin Phoenix joker, not Ledo.
@@RedHood410 Don't remember Phoenix saying it.
@@RedHood410 Nope. It was a meme associated with edgelords who love the Joker for a while (but he never actually said it). Snyder was the first to have Leto say it in the reshoots for JL. Joaquin's Joker never actually says "we live in a society..."
Two of my favourite brags from ERB are “I’m the John Wayne of John Wayne Gacys” and “I’m the poster boy for missing persons posters”. There’s something so evil about them without being graphic or violent.
Joker's pen was way better in this. But in a 1v1 battle, his punchlines didn't have enough direct punches at Pennywise. If it was a cypher, "Ask Robin if I drop bars" would be the hardest line here, but in a battle, it loses a bit of the impact to win.
nah
“Ask Robin if I drop bars” that gets me every time 😤
Still one of my favorite lines from a battle just because of how purely cold it is 😭
The “John Doe in my Deadlights” line is multi-layered. First, deer in the headlights implies that Joker is going to freeze under pressure. The Deadlights are the supernatural extraterrestrial force that It actually “is”. And “John Doe” is what unidentified human remains are often referred to; In other words, Pennywise is calling Joker a nobody compared to him.
Everyone sleeps on the "Beep Beep" in this bar. Of course it ties into the "John Doe in my deadlights (headlights)" line but in both the book and the movie when Richie tells a bad joke, the other Losers say "Beep beep, Richie". He finishes this off by calling Joke a bad joke which raps up the whole verse starting from "Why so serious"
"John Doe" Is one of Jokers specific pseudonyms as well, The 'beep beep' also implies he's driving the car that's about to 'John Doe' him
Maybe undernoted verse but I really like the cask of amontillado bit. Feels like like a throwback to King vs. Poe because it's a King character using Poe's literature. Always thought that was cool.
It's a *killer* bar but I dunno if this is the battle for it. Kinda muddies the scheming.
@@PROTAsoloproject Oh it for sure felt out of place, just nice on it's own. I don't hear people talk about Cask a lot though, so maybe I'm just biased.
@@PROTAsoloproject it felt pretty spot on to me, thematically. It's about two clowns fighting, and one seals the other behind s brick wall in a cellar to die a slow and terrible death.
I didn't even put it with the King v Poe battle. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why he went into a Poe reference even though it was a decent bar.
The "You're a John doe in my dead lights" plays off no one knowing the jokers real identity
Damn that's one hell of a diss
Joker was also named John doe in the Telltale batman game
@@enchantedskullbit underrated Batman game
That bar has so many meaning also like joker once he gets caught in his deadlights he’ll never be found and be indentified as a John doe
Glad you got that “This battle is like poker, the joker is useless” line. I remember you talked over it last time.
Lol I gotta say, your first analysis was about as wrong as I'd ever seen you be. 😂 And you pretty right-on 99% of the time. I'm so glad you revisited this battle! I think it has to be the most aesthetically well-balanced and accurate one they've ever made.
To be fair he didn't get like a third of Pennywise bars back then. In the first viewing he said he was lacking during those verses and the rewatch he talking about how those are some of the hardest verses in the battle.
@@axelmok4_channel391 oh absolutely. But like I said, this video is absolutely a redemption lol
... sorta think he just changed his opinion on who won just because he knew people didn't agree with him enough to have him revisit it. Strongly disagree with you and his new opinion.
@@richardashendale922 I don't think Scru is the kind of person who would care enough to do that.
Aww, you missed the hidden pun of Skarsgard (the guy that played IT in the new movie)-"scars guards" in "I take smiles and I leave scars, guards at Arkham will admit that Joker just killed IT" so it sounded like Joker is so good at rapping that the actor that played as IT admits that he killed "IT". Blew my mind years ago when i heard and still blows my mind even today!
Plus the Killing picture comic reference!
But I’ll say pennywise won but this battle was fair and good
@@Jarkkokyy The name of the comic is "The Killing Joke" so you're close.
@@rexford6260 I think he means the cover of joker taking a picture
Crazy how Penny countered Joker's Arkham (Lovecraft) reference with an Edgar Allan Poe reference, since Lovecraft looked up to Poe for inspiration, like a Robin to his Batman. Crazy.
I’m surprised he didn’t mention the “when I flow, I go Mark Ham” is a reference to Mark Hamill playing The Joker in the animated tv show. And when you “go ham”, you go all in. That’s a bar.
Mark Ham, with Ill zingers.
Mark Ham-Ill.
He also plays joker in the Arkham games
"Zeus Vs Thor" needs a revisit, that one needed to be on the Top 10 of the best ones and personal favorites.
All the Lego animated ERB's are prime choice for top 10 lists.
4:14 “you’re a John Doe in my deadlights.”
That’s actually a secret triple bar. The obvious ‘deer in my headlights’, as well as the ‘John Doe’ saying after I’m done, no one will know who you are. And the Deadlights refers to Pennywise’s power that when you look into the lights, ya done son!
That’s not just a bar, that’s a bar to the 3rd degree! 🤘🤘🤘
Plus in some canons Joker is referred to as John Doe before he goes nuts.
@@StellaStarfall is that a hint of the infamous Quad Bar?!? o0o
@@StellaStarfall but during is meaning he is going crazy then after he does his performance goes sky rocket and make it uhh jokerish like
Is this a quintuple bar???
@@DountEater the Barception is a thing to be feared and loved ò3ó
Scru: Who do I think won? Joker, not gonna hold ya.
Re-Visiting the battle
Scru: Pennywise ate it. Hands down.
It’s clear that pennywise has many deep bars that most ppl miss.
Go through Joker’s last line phonetically. “I take smiles and I leave scars. Guards at Arkham will it admit that the joker just killed it”
The actor that played Pennywise in the new IT movie is Bill Skarsgard (scars guard)
13:35 I don't think he caught it but the January ember flame line was reference to a scene where Ben wrote a poem to Beverly, describing her hair like January embers, meaning that she is the warmth comforting beacon of hope to him, in the rap battle it implies that Pennywises lines are fire, the source of fire of in context to the poem.
I’m glad he caught the “Joker is useless” bar. Always bothered me that he missed it the first time around!
The joker prefers the shining because Jack Nicholson played the joker and was also in the shining.
Pennywise may have been punching more, but the two lines I remember the most in the battle are the Joker's.
- "Tell your author ... little more PG and a lot less 13"
- "Ask Robin if I drop bars"
I also enjoy the chaotic and unnerving flow Pennywise has. But none of his bars hit as hard as those. Joker has it for me.
Now, that was rude.
The first boy blunder had some manners.
I suppose I'm going to have to teach you a iesson...
...so you can better follow
in his footsteps.
Nah, I'm just gonna keep beating you with this crowbar.
The John Doe in my deadlights will forever be my favorite line because the Jokers only fear is being killed by a nobody, and being forgotten, John Doe means basically a forgotten person, an unidentifiable dead body, a nobody, and Doe also means female deer, plus deadlights is a play on headlight.
It’s also important to note that because Joker still has a fear, penny wise can beat him, since he feeds on fear.
I especially think it’s important because there’s so much to unpack, he’s making fun of Jokers fear, while also saying “I can beat you. I’m the god of fear.”
@@PhysicallyAwake I am so fucking glad someone else knows that the term "John Doe" is used when a body cannot be identified. It's been killing me that so many people missed that part XD
@@TrueDiegesis Everybody knows that, mate.
As much as the Robin bar is always a good swing for me (It's just brutal as hell)
Pennywise had him on the ropes with his consistent blows
Love your breakdowns, but the volume on your mic was too low this time. I could either hear the battle and have my ears blown out, or try my best to hear your comments at a whisper.
“I’m the John Wayne of John Wayne Gacy’s (Clown serial killer) the underground clown posse, my flow’s insane!” (Insane Clown Posse being an underground rap group) Is the hardest hitting line for me. First off, the flow is immaculate. Second, as an ICP fan, having them being referenced in a rap battle between two clowns is not only perfect, but required and executed beautifully.
You were really sleeping on this one the first time. I will say that "you talking about some H.P Love Potion type ish" one of the funniest things you've ever said XD
One more thing you might want to work on adjusting your mic volume, can barely hear you when you talk during the video playing.
Honestly, this is the best ERB, hands down. Almost every line is a double entendre and the insults were vicious.
I've been watching erb & rewatching & rewatching countless times, since 2010. I'm a huge fan. I've shown them off to anyone I know that appreciates comedy or rap or both. K so I just found a random erb reaction video of yours. & I Binged ALL of your erb reactions over the past 2 days. Right off the bat I loved your energy. You remind me of my homeys with your attitude n shit. & Youre the perfect person to do these reactions .. these are literally the reactions I've been looking for over the past 12 years of showing erb around to anyone who will watch. Watching erb with you is almost like I'm watching them for the first time. Scru, you are so insightful. You catch stuff I didn't catch over a decade of watching. I know a lot more about battle rapping than I did 3 days ago, that's for sure. You could teach a class about it. also i was more than a few videos into it, when I realized that ur the guy who played Mansa, but It really made me so so happy when I did realize it. The fact that you got onto ERB ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
"I’m the John Wayne of John Wayne Gacys" is such an underrated bar. If you know the history of John Wayne Gacy, it hits different outside of referencing the real life killer clown.
John Wayne Gacy was named after John Wayne because his dad wanted him to be that pinnacle of a stereotypical man, so what Pennywise said was "I'm the pinnacle of Killer Clowns".
“I make the Justice League look like just a bunch of super schlubs” I don’t think people realize how great of a line this is. They showed Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman from other ERB videos when he said it. All three of them got destroyed in their rap battle while Joker demolished Pennywise in his.
@Ronald Nygma Not false
While Joker demolished Pennywise from his view. From where I’m standing Pennywise won.
@@ferratorr1033 how did pennywise win?
@@KFP_Fanboy I mean I feel like I should start by saying neither one “demolished” the other. They were both hitting extremely well and on point the entire battle. But from a raw standpoint I think Pennywise had the better disses. There are other areas I believe he was better in as well, but he won if you break it all down.
@@ferratorr1033 pennywise had a bad last verse, he had no disses
That "You're john doe in my deadlights" has so many layers. One of my favourite bars in this.
Yooooo this was SO much fun to watch! I love ERB so much and you gettin hyped up on the bars is *chefs kiss* 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
Dude just yesterday I was thinking about how you should revisit this! I'm so glad
I love that your reviewing them! I powered through your erbs and was bummed they had to end! DON DEMARCO!!!!!!! I might have to snatch up a DM hoodie and wear it out to my next super fight
One of the best joker bars, as far as penmanship goes is "I take smiles and leave *scars, guards* at Arkham will admit, that the joker just killed IT" pennywise was played by Bill Skarsgård (scars, guards) in the new movies
I just learned something amazing to me😮
"I'm montresour, gonna make you my fortunado. And seal this battle up like it was the cask of Amontillado"
This is an Edgar allen poe reference. in the book The Cask of Amontillado, The main character lures a man named Fortunado to his basement. Gets him insanely drunk and then chains him up behind a wall and seals it. Leaving the guy to die😅 this makes that line pretty hardcore😆
So glad this is being revisited
This battle was another one of those battles from ERB where it was mostly clever lines and flow vs mostly attacking the other rapper and in this one I always felt like Pennywise was cleaning his clock. The PG 13 bar was one of the only bars that felt really strong from Joker, the rest was just heavily layered wordplay or light jabs. Pennywise started a bit slow but then went on the attack and really didn't stop. You've said it multiple times that good wordplay does well for cyphers, but for a rap battle you want to actually attack the other person. Joker fell short here.
Honestly, I feel like IT got more actual lines. Sometimes shots don't land, but if you have more lines to shoot with, then you got more chances.
This was a fun revisit! Yeah you hit some deeper stuff this time around. Very fun
Your reactions to great bars is absolutely extra, and I love it
This one was so good, the subtle punches are hard to catch but when you catch them, absolutely solid!
Yesess I was waiting for you to react to this
Ive been waiting broooo 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
One you missed was 'fall from a new hight' which is a reference to how Jack Nicholson's Joker died.
Something you missed too is when he said "you're supposed to be the man who laughs" he is referring to the character Joker is based on, called The Man Who Laughs.
The line "I am a shinning man" referring to Jack Nickelson who played the joker as well as Jack and Jack is from the shinning! They didn't wink they shined. The wink was because he was referring to Nickelsons character in the shinning.
If you didn't get the "John Wayne of John Wayne gacy's" , it's a reference to the famous American serial killer/ sex offender who killed at least 33 men and boys, who was known for performing at children's parties as "pogo the clown".
Something you also might've missed here was that "As far as Mr King goes I'm a Shining man, wink" was MAJOR DISRESPECT to Stephen King, because King absolutely despised the movie adaptation of his book The Shining, which was directed by Stanley Kubrick and considered to be one of the best films of all time and it's almost universally preferred over the book even though the movie has little to do with the book, which is why King hated it. As well, Joker referring to himself as a "shining man" is in reference to the psychic force in King's novels that some humans possess called "the shine", in the comics Joker is said to have "super sanity", meaning basically the reason he acts so crazy is because he's actually AWARE he's in a comic book, which is why he winks at the camera, it's a fourth wall break. Also that "Arkham, ha, you stole that from HP Lovecraft" is actually kind of a trash bar because almost the entirety of King's works is HEAVILY taken from Lovecraft's, including the concept of Pennywise itself as being this cosmic incomprehensible being tormenting humans so he really was the pot calling the kettle black in that case so to speak. I feel like the fact that Joker threw punches at Penny AND Stephen King throughout his verses edges him out over Pennywise, but it's a clooooooooose battle.
Haha thank you!! I was thinking about “the shine” as well that bar hit me hard. And agreed with whatcha said about the Lovecraft bar, but in hindsight I feel like Joker spreading so many bars to SK instead of Penny lost him the battle.“No one dying to play Joker, expect maybe Heath Ledger” was the nail in the coffin 🤣 but Joker absolutely was punching
@@SkoloT Hey like I said it's cloooose, so you're definetly not wrong, I guess it's down to whether you prefer the meta disses or the directly in battle disses!
@@pUrpLEsnake325 100%, not trying to say I’m “right”, I definitely enjoyed Joker’s verses and this was just my own verdict on the battle. Subjective! 🍻
@@SkoloT Hell yeah brother!
I thought the shining bar was also a reference to Nicolson starring in that movie and also he played Joker, hence the "wink"
He's quoting the Synder cut of the "Justice League." Jered Leto's Joker says "This is Earth you space demon, we live in a society." The line is in a throw away scene after the end credits.
YESSSSSSSS! I was dying for another rap battle video.
Freshy's Doctor Strange vs the Doctor video was fire, you should do that one.
watched both It movies old and new. Freaked me out so close.
You know you need to go back for the Hilter vs Vader Trilogy. Between the bars, how iconic, as well as how many people first got into your ERB Reviews was that video. Bonnie and Clyde vs Romeo and Juliet being another of course.
The "rapraprapraprap" portion is a reference to the remake movies where Pennywise scares one of the kids with balloons and he keeps going "pop pop pop pop" as the balloons pop and Pennywise comes closer :D
12:01 “I take smiles and I leave SCARS..
GUARDS at Arkham will admit..”
SCARS GUARD = Skarsgård
damn that’s a clever wordplay
The big thing about Pennywise in this battle was that his heaviest bars were more direct than The Joker's. Most of Joker's best lines were either bragging about himself or taking shots at Stephen King. Pennywise's best bars were either dissing Joker directly, shitting on Joker's actors or finding creative ways to talk about killing him. They both had crazy material and wordplay, but The Joker was aiming all over the place while Pennywise was aiming at his opponent's head.
Yeah, joker here was a preformer while pennywise was more a motherfucker.
lets go! scru is back with more erb. hell yeah
“Shining man” bar is also a nod to the fact the Stephen King hated the Kubrick adaptation that Nicholson was in.
Missed the fall from a new height reference from Tim Burton batman film. I missed that up until now. It's amazing how these flows go hard when you get the reference.
Jack Nicholson played Joker in 1989 and Jack Torrence in The Shining which is what that bar was referring to, also it was "you're like a John Doe in my deadlights" referring to Pennywise's true form as lights that can petrify or even kill you if you see them and one of Joker's aliases as John Doe and that no one in the comics knows his real name, not even himself until The Killing Joke
The Shining bar is referring to Jack having played the Joker as well as having starred in the shining... 🤣🤣
one of the actors who played the joker also played in the shining man
Joker leans into the society meme for many reasons:
One, because it's still a meme about him, and Joker is absolutely the type of person that believes that any publicity, even "bad" publicity, is good publicity.
Two, since the meme comes from Let, oit could serve as a reminder that the Joker doesn't care and isn't ashamed of that. He's owning the Leto version, which takes the sting away from the Tekashi line.
And 3, because it serves as a continuation of his previous line. Joker saying that for as bad as he is, he still lives in a society and is still more decent than Pennywise, who came from the twisted mind of a man that would imagine that gang bang. After all, Joker is evil, not a sicko.
The line hits on multiple levels.
Personally, my favorite is when they drop a bar that would hit crazy coming from anyone, like “Im the poster-boy for missing person posters”
"I spit January ember flames" - refers to both a haiku in the novel, and also y'know "spitting fire". I love that bar =) and what he's slightly, and I mean slightly, lacking in flow and actual punches, he makes up for with delivery, intensity, and true-to-character creepiness. Like the first time I watched the video I was both humming this and feeling icky for like days lol. It's overall just fantastic.
But yeah, Pennywise knocked this one out the park, I agree. Glad you have it a re-listen bud =D 🤜🤛
pennywise with that heath leadger bar was the end of the battle tbh, there wasnt realy much the joker could say to come back from that one.
I think the pg13 bar mirrored that enough to cancel each other out
@@SuperDababy2 No I think the Heath Leadger bar was more stronger than even that bar, considering it took a shot at something irl compared to the PG 13 Gangbang which was fictional
@@SuperDababy2 i agree the pg13 bar was good. but no one is "DYING" To Play With Joker, Except For Maybe Heath Leadger was just too crazyy.
I never thought I would be arguing the logistics of effectiveness in a rap battle of a Pedophillic gangbang bar
@@Zilthrax I'd argue that the pg13 bar is better simply because you can't fight it like you can for the other. Like you could argue that any actor that plays a character will die so eh, but no matter what that pg13 bar can't be debated
Man I remember when they dropped this and still dope
Bro got that comfort haird down style, and it's a vibe.
YES! More ERB stuff!
I love these “revisit” videos.
"... you're about to fall from a new height." Is a slight at the last look we got on heath ledger's joker hanging upside down over the edge of a building
Thanks to you I hated rap battles but because of you I enjoy it all thank you and I want to see you more ERB but love to see you against nice peter
John doe in the headlights also refers to jokers alter ego(unkown) and its "deadlight"
I know I'm just speaking for myself here, but I watch every ERB reaction you put out, including the revisits, so if the revisits that you've done so far seem to be making The Algorithm happy, I'd say you should do at least a few more.
The Cask of Amontillado is a story by Edgar Allen Po. Montressor is I believe a wine specialist and Fortunado was dressed as a jester for a carnival in the city of Italy and while drunk, talked trash about Montressor so he invited the jester to his basement and said to the jester his best wine was in the room in the wall, so they went inside, and Montressor knocked shackled Fortunado to the wall and sealed the hole up to leave the jester in the room until he died. I read about it back in highschool and wish more people knew about that bar.
Bruh I'm glad you caught THEE bar this down
2:29
“I’m catching them, don’t you ever disrespect me!”
*Missed the main reference of Jack Nicholson being in The Shining as well as playing The Joker in Tim Burton’s Batman movie*
It's OK he did a very good job compared to the first watch, plus as a huge Batman fan I didn't even notice the Skarsgard wordplay bar until like the 20th time
Hmm there hod other great bars he missed also
you did give it to joker last time. funny to see this rereaction and honestly really cool you came back to one of my personal favorites
The dance with de devil's line is a reference to a phrase that Jack nicholson says while playing the joker
Loved the whole review, but what made me give the thumbs up was your recognition of H.P.’s Cthulhu
I was hoping to see another analysis of this.
Also Pennywise was referring to his Deadlights too. The gods in his Universe locked him in there and its basically a Cthulu like dimension. Even Joker would go insane if he saw it for one second.
It’s funny I would love to see you react to your initial reaction after learning all the stuff because this was a layered battle
I am high as hell, you just released a new video. Life is pretty good today lol
There was a line in the original Batman movie from 1989 “dance with the devil in the pale moonlight” that The Joker says in the movie.
About the "You're a John Doe in my deadlights" line Pennywise actually means that he will control Joker to the point that he decays and is unrecognizable there for making him a John Doe.
99 red balloons is a reference to 99 Luftballoons by Nena, a German singer. Ich liebe Nena (I love Nena).
The John doe bar hits so hard on so many levels. It’s genuinely one of the best bars in ERB.
The jokers real name is John (supposedly)
A doe caught in the head(dead) lights of a car.
And the term “John Doe” is what they use for and an unidentified dead body. - since no one knows the jokers true origin story.
Pretty sure its not John, but Jack Napier which is arguably Joker's most accepted 'true' moniker.
That "I leave scars, guards (Skarsgard) at..." Bar goes over heads
First and glad this was revisited
The "I take smiles and I leave scars, guards at Arkham will admit..." Was a reference to Bill Skarsgard, the actor who portrays IT. Skars-gard--------Scars-guards.
The bar when he says about living in a society, it’s about jokers role within society and a line from the dark knight when the joker talks about Gotham’s society calls for a higher level of criminal
The society bar is a reference to the joker vs the twisted windmill party from the conics
The John Doe line also could be referencing the fact in some crime shows they are calling the unknown victims John Doe,so he said I killed you and nobody found out who were you,so a DEADlight could be a continuous reference to this as well