Line 6 Pod HD500X as in-ear-monitor mixer/amp
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2018
- How to use your Pod/Helix or other multi-effects unit to mix your in-ear-monitor headphones or powered floor monitor mix.
Diagram:
drive.google.com/file/d/1AbxG...
OR if you're using an amp with the pod:
drive.google.com/file/d/1QQ6W... - Hudba
Thank you for posting this! I’ve been wanting to go ears, now I can thank you!
So useful. Thank you dude!
Very useful video. Thanks a bunch :)
great video. thanks for the info 🤘
Thanks great video
wow thank you MAN!
I just discovered an even simpler way to use the FX LOOP so that you don't need a fancy cable (TRS STEREO to DUAL TR MONO). If you set the FX MIX to 0.0, then the guitar signal will pass through to the PHONES OUT even when you use a regular mono cable connecting the FX SEND to the DI box. Here is a diagram:
drive.google.com/open?id=1AbxGT5_2zRM6Rl4GyToxiaKcgTLHKCTE
Henry Dueck hey dood can you help me figure out what I need to do to just get my own guitar in my in ears and be able to change the volume of my monitor from the pod without affecting the mix going to PA or FOH?
I just want to be able to hear myself through my in ears.
This setup should allow you to do exactly that. When you use the FX Send as your output to the PA, the master volume will not affect the output level.
Thanks a lot, Henry! Quick question, will this still work if I don't have a DI box and send the output directly from the FX send to the mixer?
metalforlife4ever Yes, you can send a 1/4" cable from the FX Send right into a line input on the mixer (or into an amp). The DI box is only important if you are sending the signal a longer distance (like more than 20') or if you are going into a mic input on the PA.
@@henrydueckmusic Oh I see, thanks a ton, Henry! You've got a new subscriber!
Thank you so much this will help me a lot for my church set up.. Can you do a video base on how to load preset on HD500..
Could you give us a video where you show us how you set up your hd500x please? I have so many questions, like why would you want to turn your amp on and off, why is there a reverb before the amp, should I also use 2 delay pedals. You seem to be one of the few guys on YT that really knows what you’re doing with this stuff
I don't have the Pod HD500X anymore, as I'm now using the Pod Go, but I can try to answer your questions here. 1 - An example of why you might want to be able to turn off the AMP BLOCK on a preset would be if you were using the same effect chain for acoustic and electric guitar, and you needed to turn off the amp block when you switched to acoustic guitar. 2 - REVERBS are typically used after the amp block, but there are not really any rules to this. Some people like the sound of a reverb before the amp as it will react differently when placed there. If you like the sound, then it's not really wrong. 3 - DELAY pedals can be stacked to create more complex delays. Stereo delays can also be used to accomplish this. The reason I stacked two delays was so I could set one at 1/8 and the other at 1/8d. This way I could easy toggle between the two note values, or turn on both for more complex "U2 - Edge" style delays.
Nice video, I had no idea that the FX Send on the HD500X is stereo. But I think this setup works in a particular set of scenarios, especially since you're using the Master control for the Phones output. I've got my HD500X hooked up in a 4cable method to my Mesa Boogie Mark IV, and I'm primarily using it as an effects processor. Because of this, I need my Master output level to be at 100% all the time, to match the input from the effects loop (send) on the amplifier. This means I might need some additional gear to control the headphones output.
Also, if you have multiple patches, you need to reconfigure all of them, and to make adjustments on multiple patches in a live situation might be tedious and error prone.
But all in all, a nice idea, I will have to check this myself.
Yeah, if I'm using multiple patches, then I start with a baseline patch that has the FX loop set up for in-ears, duplicate that patch for the number of songs I'm doing, then tweak each patch to fit the song.
Hello quick question with maybe not a quick answer. Is it possible to do this when using XLR out to the console and 1/4 in from the monitor send? This would help me a lot. I’m playing mostly at my church where our “stage” area has XLR sends permanently installed in the floor for mics and instruments and 1/4 sends mounted in the floor for monitor feeds running to several small stand monitors or monitor feed for IEMS. Right now I’m running mono from the XLR out to 1 Chanel but will be soon running stereo out using both XLR outs.
You can use either the 1/4" aux input or the Mic input to receive a monitor signal (just go in the settings and set the appropriate input for path B). BUT if you use the XLR out instead of the FX LOOP, then your monitor mix will be output through the XLR outs along with your guitar signal (creating a feedback loop - that's bad). The reason I use the effects loop & a DI to send the guitar signal is so that only your guitar signal is sent back to the mixer. One thing you could try though, is to pan your AUX monitor input all the way to one side, and send the opposite side XLR guitar signal out to the mixer. That way you won't create a feedback loop with your monitor mix, but you will only be able to have your monitor mix in one ear.
Hey man, this is pretty cool
I was thinking of buying a pod to use as a basic vocal effects box, but then thought about the ability of using it as an in ear system. Either for myself so i can hear myself on stage better, or trying to get as many of my band mates sounds through it as well.
Do you think its possible to run this as a vox processor, and running in 2 guitars (and maybe a bass) at once for an in ear signal? I dont think id need the POd to emulate guitar rigs, since they run an AxeFx 2 and a joyo zombie. Figured i could maybe just run an out from both of those to the FX loop return and use the mixer to do that?
Was trying to choose between the 500/500x floor board, the HD bean, or the HD pro. probably looking at the board or the pro.
thanks!
The process outlined in the video should do the job for what you're planning - all you need to modify is to set the input for path A to the MIC input, and use vocal effects instead of guitar processing on path A. The monitor mix coming back in through the FX Loop can have as many things in it as you send into a monitor mix from your sound board. As long as the unit you're buying has an effects loop that you can place at the end of the signal path, it should work. : )
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Hi! Great video and information. Hope you can help regarding running my guitar which is a mag/piezo (two outputs in guitar) and if I can run both signals thru the HD500X with a dedicated preset being possible to run the electric guitar to my cabinet and the piezo direct to PA.
Yes, you could do this using the two signal paths (one to process the magnetic pickups, and the other for the piezo) but that means you won't be able to use one of those paths to process a monitor mix for in-ears.
In order to use both pickups separately, hold down the VIEW button to get into the settings and set the input for path A as guitar, the input for path B as AUX, and plug your MAGNETIC cable into the GUITAR input and the piezo cable into the AUX input. Then separate the signal chains and put in the effects and/or amp models that you want for each separate path. Next, go to the mixer section and pan path A to 100% LEFT, and path B to 100% RIGHT. Now you can send your magnetic signal to your amp and your piezo signal directly to the PA. If you use the XLR to send your piezo signal the PA and you want to use the 1/4" output to send the magnetic signal to your amp, then you may need to have something plugged into BOTH of the 1/4" outputs for it to work correctly. (Because if you have only one 1/4" cable connected, it will use the Left output as MONO, but if you have something plugged into the Right output, then it will have both active as STEREO)
@@henrydueckmusic Thanks for your fast response! Sounds easy to accomplish, I appreciate your help.
This is a great video and very useful!! I set it up but when I record something on the LOOPER feature I can only hear it on my head phones but not thru the PA System. How can i fix that?
Grupo Exito Bachata unfortunately the looper will not be able to function well with this setup. At least I have not been able to find a way to do it.
@@henrydueckmusic bummer, never the less its is a cool set up.
Hi man, thank you for this tutorial! I have some question. Can I do this on my Line 6 X3 Live? X3 Live have mono FX send and software for FX chain is different, I can just choose PRE or POST. I play with band direct to PA, no amp, DI is optional or?
Euro Neuro If the FX loop is at the very end of the signal chain, then it should still work. You can get your guitar signal back into your ears by either setting the FX loop mix to zero, or by using the Thru output of the DI to send the signal into the Pod’s FX Return
Thx for fast answer! So if I send my signal from FX send i need DI box for PA?
I try this option when come home.
Euro Neuro Yes, you will have to use a DI since the the FX Send is not a “balanced” output
Can you please clarify where you plug in to the PA? is it just any input? How does the rest of the bands signals come through to the in-ears?
There is a diagram linked in the description of the video that should help with that.
This is really cool, and I like your thinking, but it’s kinda hard to give up even one block to do that. Plus, you also have to go through and do this to all of them : /
Very true, it does require reworking your presets. And you can't use the looper with this setup either. The main purpose for it is if you don't have access to a separate mixer for your headphone monitors (I usually use a small Yamaha or Behringer mixer and run the monitor mix from the house into that), but if you have to travel light or don't have another mixer, then this works as a backup.
Hey sir I git a dt25 and pod hd500x paired via link l6 ! Do you got any idea how to set the in-ear monitor (cabling and ...)
If you can somehow send just the FX send out of the L6 Link, then it could work. Otherwise you might have to use a 1/4" out from the FX send to feed your DT25 - and possibly another 1/4" from the DT25 back into the pod's FX return if you are using the DT25 for your amp tone.
Hey Henry I am new using the hd500x, I just want to ask you if I can use a pro D2 sterio box
Yes, if you want to have a stereo signal going to the PA, the FX SEND is stereo and you could use a a stereo di box like the Pro D2 with a Stereo Y cable.
Great vid, I do have a question. I have an A6 Ultra and wanting to make a fly rig out of the pod, which I am yet to purchase.
Can I add 1 input to guitar and use for electric sounds, 1 x input into Aux I n for acoustic and mic in for vocals alp running there own effect chain.
This seems easy enough for me to do, there is just no information available before I lay down some coin for a pod.
Thanks in advance.
JJ
The HD500X has two signal paths, so you could do guitar & mic, OR electric & acoustic, but not all three. The second signal path can be either Aux OR Mic (or same as first path).
To do what you’re describing and with one piece of gear, you probably need a full Helix.
Though it would be cheaper to get a separate piece of gear for your microphone, and use the pod for guitar sounds.
I’ve moved to. Pod Go now, which only has one signal path, but has the same sound engine as the Helix, and sounds quite a bit better than the pod for the electric amp modeling.
If you are not using electric and acoustic at the same time, then the pod HD500x will still work. You can use the Guitar In for the acoustic as well, and just turn off the Amp and Cab modeling.
Could you just run straight to a mixer from the xlr output? I currently run xlr output to headphone amp to mixer
Yes, you can totally do that if you are using an external headphone amp. The method I’m describing is if you want to use the Pod’s headphone output as your headphone amp, and still have independent control of the headphone volume.
Excuse me ...my English is básic.I only want to know if I can I use the podhd as a sound card.I broken my old external audio interface and I need to record the guitar and listen In my studio speakers because I don't have an amplifier .will I have any latency problems ? What do you recommend me ? I don't have more money
Yes, the pod makes an excellent sound card/interface. Just plug it in with the USB port and select the pod to be both your audio input and your audio output. Since the guitar signal is processed by the pod and not your computer, there is zero latency.
Would it be possible to get a diagram of the hook up? Thank you in advance
here you go:
drive.google.com/open?id=1AbxGT5_2zRM6Rl4GyToxiaKcgTLHKCTE
Sounds very helpful.. But does the balanced in that's coming into the Pod through mic in will get back out to the PA or not?
No - because the signal going to the PA is coming from the FX Send, not from the main outputs, the mic input signal won't go back out to the PA.
But I tried with the simpler technique the one you posted the diagram of... Not returning back ta FX send to FX return. But now when I'm turning on the FX the sound is coming from the PA and when turning off the sound is cutoff to the PA but coming to my monitora.. it's getting vice versa. Where did I go wrong ?
Luman Sthapit Did you check the FX Mix level on the FX Loop block? You have to change that level if you are not using the FX returns. The FX Mix is what let's the signal pass through to your ears when you use the simpler cable to the DI method.
Thank u so much . It actually worked . Can't thank you more. 😊
Nice video, dude. I am playing in a band and we have a behringer x32 rack, so left and right xlr cables go from POD to mixer, what is the best possible way for me to manage wired in ear monitor system? Can i do something with behringer powerplay p2 headphon amplifier? Wireless IEM's are too expensive... Thank you
If you already have a headphone amp like the powerplay, then you don’t need to use the pod as your in-ear system. Just send one of the monitor mixes from the X32 ouputs directly to the powerplay headphone amp for your in-ears.
@@henrydueckmusic Thank you for the very fast answer!
One question and this might be stupid but I'm not that well verse in this aspect of the game lol. Will this work if you bypass the cab sim? Thanks so much!!!
Eli Johnson If you want to bypass the cab sim (or the amp model altogether) then I would set the FX Loop mix to 100, and send the FX Loop to an amp, mic the amp, and put the mic’d amp signal into your monitor mix (which comes back from the sound board into the mic input of the Pod).
Henry Dueck thanks for the quick reply! I can't wait to try this at our next show! Thanks for putting this up!
Eli Johnson You’re welcome!
Hi can you still do this if using the 4 cable method?
Chris K Guitars, not on the Pod HD, since you have only one FX loop. But if you have multiple FX loops (like on the Helix) then it should be possible.
@@henrydueckmusic that's really helpful, thank you Henry.
If I want to add pedals in the fx send and still want the in ear monitoring is it possible?
I believe it should work if you connect it like this: run from the FX SEND into the pedals, from your last pedal into the DI that goes to house, take the THRU output from the DI back into your FX RETURN, and set your FX LOOP MIX to 100% I think that should make it work
@@henrydueckmusic thank you! I will try, I understood the routing but hope pedal fx won't affect the in ear monitoring.. Kinda hard to think.. But you're so great to come up with a great solution likr this.. Thank you for sharing God bless you :)
@@prady4music You're welcome!
Nice idea :) But the quality of signal is bad (esp distortion) when compared with inEarMonitor (ex: Behringer PM1 etc)
Any idea if there's a fix or can't do anything abt this built-in amplifier
When set up correctly, you should be able to get a nice clean signal from the POD's headphone amp. I would recommend checking the level of signal coming into the mic input from the soundboard. If that level is set too high and over-drives the mic input, then you whole monitor mix will sound distorted. Another option would be to try using the POD's aux input instead of the mic input for your monitor mix (just remember to set the aux as the input for Path B).
@@henrydueckmusic Thankyou for suggestion... Initially I was blaming my ear piece (Shure SE215) assuming it's incapable of handling high's, mids's & lows.
But the same monitor mix signal when I was testing by feeding to POD's MIC-XLR-IN & Behringer-PM1 simultaneously, PM1 has decent sound quality so I realized by tweaking POD's-MIC volume knob & POD's-Master-Volume knob for sweet spot but couldn't find one...
Also during concert if I feel the instruments are getting louder I need to end up tweaking master-knob.
So, I don't think connecting to AUX should help as it has no volume control handy.
Suggestions please...
@@maheshchintu I would start with the POD's mic level at about 25% and the OUTPUT of the POD at about 50%. Then set the level coming from the soundboard to the volume you like. This should give you some headroom if you need to turn up the mic input level.
Will try this, Thankyou Henry :)
What is the best way to connect line 6 in mixser and amp for live giging, amp. Is just for monitoring on stage.
Great question! That's actually what I've been working on the last few weeks, because I've always struggled with finding a sound I liked when using a Pod amp model with my actual amp. I think I finally found a solution I'm happy with, so here's a diagram: drive.google.com/file/d/1QQ6WPZ_k9lI7JHOwvaf-F2PA_hDnhYtC/view?usp=sharing
@@henrydueckmusic theks men I will try.
I's it sefe to try xlr right in mixer and fx send in return of amp. I have marshall 100hdfx hed.
Damir Avdic If you are using the Marshall amp just as an on stage monitor and not part of your tone, then keep the Pod’s CABINET model ON, and change the FX MIX to 0.
Yes, you can use the Pod FX send to feed the Marshall’s FX RETURN, just realize that you are sending a “mic’d cabinet” simulation into your amp/cabinet, so it won’t sound totally natural.
The best option for the signal to the PA would be to use a stereo Y cable and send the second output from the FX Send into a DI box. That way you can still use the Pod to mix your guitar signal with a monitor mix for your in-ear monitors.
If you’re not using the Pod’s mic input for a monitor input, then yes, you could just use the Pod’s XLR out to the PA.
@@henrydueckmusic thenks man.
can cabinets be used on this?
Absolutely! You can set your Pod's guitar signal to be appropriate for feeding your cabinet, then place the FX Loop after that point and send it to your amp/cab.
You may have answered this before but could you just use a balanced output straight to the PA instead of the effects send? Then just have the return from the PA to the Mic input just the way you have it. Or do yo have to take the signal from the effects out?
sean toner The problem with that setup is that you either have to pan each signal hard left and right (which doesn't sound great in your ears) or you end up sending a blend of your guitar and the monitor mix out through the XLR output creating a messy loop
ah right cool I get you! thanks for the quick reply buddy
Why not run the monitor mix signal into the mic input Instead?
You could do that if you set the mic input as the input source for path B, but you have to be careful to not overdrive the input - start with the mic level really low.
Would it be possible to do a video on how to connect the Pod to the computer and use the tones on it in place of the Rocksmith tones?
What if you're using the 4 Cable Method?
I don't think it will work with the 4 cable method since you need the FX loop as your final guitar output (in order to avoid getting the monitor mix in your main outputs) and the Pod only has one FX loop. The Helix with multiple FX loops should be able to work that way.
How to plug xlr cable Only during live performance
With this setup you would not use the xlr output on the pod, because it would include both your instrument signal AND the monitor mix going back to the sound board.
Has anyone found any thing like this for firehawk?
I have not used a Firehawk unit before, but from looking at the inputs of the Firehawk FX, it looks like the only way this MIGHT work is if you could use the FX Loop to send the guitar signal to the PA, and try to incorporate a monitor mix coming back in to one of the 1/4" FX RETURNS.
How to plugin while playing live concert
This is the setup that works for live performance
@@henrydueckmusic does this produce a good sound quality??
How about XLR cable,can you give a picture how to plugin please
I just bought my podhd500x last week but j don't know how to use it
there is a link to a diagram in the description
Funktioniert sehr gut, leider mit Störgeräuschen über die PA!
Christian Wentzel it shouldn't have any more noise than using the XLR outputs. Try setting the output switch next to the FX Loop to "line" instead of "stomp" and make sure the DI is not set to pad/attenuation if it has that option
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Would this diagram help?
drive.google.com/file/d/1AbxGT5_2zRM6Rl4GyToxiaKcgTLHKCTE/edit
is easier just to put your headphones in to the headphones out [ that's what it is for ] i have it that way in my headphones... L output is my guitar, and R output, my vocals , you just need a long stereo cable for the headphones attached to the guitar cable ...and that's it.
Call me crazy but i think you jacked it all up and made it way more complicated.
All you do is plug headphones into the headphone jack. Thats all, nothing else.
Your effects loop you can use for external effects etcetra. Now if you want to hear something from your computer the you simply run stereo cable from computer into aux in of pod.
Not quite sure what you were smoking but i might not smoke anymore of it.
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I get what you were doing but i think you put way too much thought into it
It look 👀 its only good if you play alone cause you won't hear any other member when not à one ☝️ man band !
That's where the monitor mix return comes in. The signal of the other band members comes back from the sound board into the mic input of the Pod, which you blend together with your guitar signal in your headphones.