The Players (Mostly) Win Again - Huge Ground Battle Changes Reworked [War Thunder]
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- Gaijin listened for the most part after a poll, and will implement the most popular ground vehicle changes... for now.
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Official Dev Blog Announcement: warthunder.com/en/news/8860-roadmap-results-of-polling-on-the-new-points-in-the-road-map-en
Video Going Over The Proposed Changes: czcams.com/video/c4wNVi4agB0/video.html
We've won this battle, but the war still goes on.
Yeah but gaijunk just made air RB 7.3 to 10.3 unplayable from 8.3 to 10.3. They fucked an entire BR bracket with their braindead decisions
what did they do? just goofy br changes?
@@BigBinks remember the compression around 6.7? yeah they moved that clusterf*ck up and made it worse. Basically the technological difference between br brackets is like 10-20 years. Its also split in two since noone really plays 9.3 so you have 7.7/8.0-8.7/9.0 matches and 9.3-10.3 in my sweedish 8.7 lineup I almost never see uptier, maybe a few 9.0 soviet tanks. This 7.3-10.3 range could be expanded to 4 BRs.
@@BigBinks mig 15 and sabre can now face spitfires ☠☠
@@allorfh2495no one plays 9.3? Lmfao, 9.3 is one of the most popular br brackets, that’s why they lowered br’s under it, bc poor 8.3s were getting shit on. Don’t think it’s the right thing to do but that’s why they did it.
@@allorfh2495 i remember the G91 at 8.7 having an obscene winrate. Im currently grinding the sweden tech tree. the constant 9.3 GRB uptieres to 10.3 was so annoying.
POV you didn’t even know there was a poll
There was a poll? lol... I only saw the news and waited for the poll invite
@@Orodreth888 I had no idea did they even talk about it on Steam? Which 50k players is not alot for WT so this poll is not very repersentive.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough 50k is more than enough to get reliable data from
that pfp 🤢 yuck
@@GreenBlueWalkthroughthey did, the poll was on steam.
I have had enough PTSD from World of Tanks stunning mechanic
Yep, exactly the same here
Same, it is so lame.
Same, remember being a sandbox tester for it and thinking oh no this is bad
I see a fellow former sufferer from arty
"Your gunner would not be able to fire for an additional second or so" While I don't love the idea of stun, this isn't what it was described as doing. The "concussion" caused screenshake and sparks to appear on screen if any crew was hit, and if a round hit >but did not kill< your gunner, the "stun" would temporarily move the center of your aim off center from your mouse within 1/4 of the screen. It did not cause any "pausing" of input. I don't love the described effects, Helldivers has a simpler method for "concussion", and RNG is bad, but overall you still technically had complete control to fight back.
*SOME control. Good luck hitting a 2a7 breach at just a few hundred meters while your gunner is having an epileptic seizure.
@@touchgrass7834 Screen effects have no bearing on control. You don't lose the ability to aim, to drive, to turn, to shoot. A screen shake or sparks does not in _any way_ take away control. The effects are annoying, but if I've been shot, I often already know where it came from and am turning to shoot. The effects will already be cleared in the 1-2 stated seconds as I'm aiming at the target and still before he finishes reloading. This will have the most affect if somehow someone gets a shot off and I don't see where it's at, finding the target will be harder, which seems to be the intent.
The mouse RNG is a little control loss granted, and I'm all against it, but completely "freezing" input is _leagues_ more hated than simple throwing off aim slightly.
@@matchstick21 you get tinnitus, flashbans and the mouse input change is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
@@touchgrass7834 No it's not the dumbest thing. The dumbest thing would literally be taking away control from the player by freezing inputs, which isn't what the "stun" is and is the entire point of my post. I've _already stated twice_ that those effects are annoying and I'd rather have a simpler alternative, but that's besides the point.
@@matchstick21 the seizure I was talking about in my first comment was me commenting on both effects and movement. Yes, screwing with the controls isn't *the worst* they could do but my point is it's pretty fucking annoying. The visuals suggested are also annoying as fuck. The solving light vehicles issues point they are trying to accomplish could be solved with a better damage model and increased spall with apds and heat. Apds only produces few big chunks that don't travel far. Now I don't think a gunner is alright just because the one chunk of metal gaijin did take into account didn't hit him. If the round hits close enough he should be dead by all rights, or at least *unconscious*. On top of that are of course the misterious ways spall works in in general. See ammo not going of, even when main calliber apfsds passed through it just because there was a fuel tank in front who ate the spall but not the main shell. You are not going to fire a shell with a hole in it! That's the end of my rant. There seemed to be a misunderstanding. I hope I've made my position on it clear now.
We are far away from winning, there are still many things in this game that are more important to add like BR decompression up to 12.7 for ground battles, fixing ghost shells, HE and HESH rework because they still often don't work like they should, RP bonuses for completed tech trees (supposedly in next major update) and many, many more
HESH is coming in a soon update, testing is being done on dev server.
@@MemekingJag yeah I know and as far as I know it doesn't work much better but we will see. I dont have any expectations about it right now
I think In the original April fools for modern vehicles, t90 and abrams were fucking 15.0, so it’s very possible to do high decompression
@@aynersolderingworks7009i just checked screenshot from april 2017, they were 13.0 not 15.0. however the helis were 14.3 br
I sure hope they make FPE charges recoverable then because it's bad enough you only get two fires before having to J out
number 1 thing that needs change is making a full up/down tier 0.7 max variation
nice to see development continuing to genuinely involve the community. they still need to overhaul how they handle BRs, obviously, but we’re still rolling in the same good direction we pushed this game into last year.
So, they will add what we chose, and still add what we don't want just at a later time.
For a good company this can be useful to recover feedback and improve the suggestion
But for gaijin? We have to wait to see if they do it correctly
At least it isn't an EA/Ubi/Overkill moment of "my game my decision"
@@michaelruiz0621 As a Wargaming Vet the direction Gaijin has been going in since last years boycott has been a godsend. A gaming company actually listening to its players and willing to take their opinions into account, regardless of the extent? A genuine marvel!
This is one of those "we gave you the illusion of choice but didn't think you'd vote the 'wrong' way" scenario.
I wish they also gave us an ability to select what modules crew prioritizes during repairs. Sometimes I'd rather have the crew prioritize fixing the tracks so I can retreat and fix my gun, other times I'd rather have my gun fixed first.
That's a good idea. It's already implemented in naval and works well enough
I'd also like backups that you can only use on one vehichle (for example the 20 backups you get for buying a premium) to have an option to change vehichles. I'm sick of needing backups for ground and having 35 just sitting on my f5c
I voted on this pool, and i'm very, very happy, that the stun mechanic didn't won, glad that majority of the war thunder community didn't fall for that bait
The changes should be good. More mods to set fire for that are concrete (oil tank, battery) will be good. They should increase the amount of extinguishers from 2 to 3.
Players lose no matter what. We get bribed with shiny expensive toys and shitty mecanics. Gaijin loves telling us what we need to think. They tell us that the wait time would be too long for a better gaming experience by adding a BR or 2 and decompressing the trees. Yet they want to asd more RNG mechanics that will be most definitely broken.
Yeah the stun mechanic was the only no-go option for me.
are they gona give us more fpe and the ability to replenish it?
The stun mechanics seemed the most egregiously badly thought out imo. It makes the benefit of prioritising specific modules/crew members nullified, because no matter who you hit, all tank capabilities are down. Should you take out the engine/driver first, and immobilise the enemy to stop them getting out of sight, or focus on the gun/gunner, and stop them returning fire? With the stun mechanic, doesn't matter, because either way, tank's not moving or shooting for a few seconds. It actively reduces the skill ceiling by making shot placement less important.
The game distinguished itself from its main competitor, World of Tanks, by making the destruction of enemy vehicles dependent on a complex module system rather than a simple health bar -- this proposed change takes a step backwards.
'Mini Fires' is also a straight up dumb idea. The only situation I could see it becoming relevant is when you survive a penetrating shot, you survive with minimum crew, thankfully no engine fires, but instead of the last ditch chance to recover and save yourself from destruction (one of the most satisfying things you can do in ground), you suddenly just die from tiny DoT ticks because Gustav's oily flannel got a bit smoky.
POV you do not understand how the stun mechanic was going to work
@@russman3787I didn’t like the stun do to well spaa’s
@@russman3787 You thinking you knew how it would end up working by going off of Gaijin's poorly worded explanation of how it would work is hilarious.
@@aflyingcowboy31 It's pretty clear that the crew members need to actually be hit to be stunned
@@russman3787 yes by literally any hit i.e. shrapnel works as well:
"Any hit to a crew member causes a stun effect"
Meaning as long as you don't aim at the engine block you will stun/concuss crew members.....
Regardless, once again it is funny you actually think you know how it would work in game just because you read the post.... You need to actually test that that stuff in game to know how it works.
Even though the ones voted down by just over 50% are going to be looked at in the future means that the company doesn't grasp the fact that HALF of the players are against it. The point of having a poll and saying we'll look at put it in later make the whole idea of having a poll a moot point!
just turn of F RTRD autoaim for console and gamepad users... and everything will be fine :)
thank god the majority said no on the stun mechanic.
The only thing that change would achieve is to make it more frustrating to play, ESPECIALLY for new players.
Cant believe there are so many people saying yes to that, absolute brain rot.
i remember one of the first memories I have of playing ground in WT was racing across a map in some low BR wheeled vehicle, taking a shot from a tank ahead of me killing the driver, and skidding past him so fast I out-rotated his turret and got a killing shot on him from the side.
if I were playing with that new mechanic implemented, I would have gotten shot, and then had to sit in frustration as my fully functional gun and gunner do nothing as I wait for that tank to deliver a finishing shot.
odd reference, but more than anything it reminds me of the malaria mechanic in Far Cry 2. Realistic, annoying, constantly bugging you, and that added no additional enjoyment to the game.
@@MemekingJag I know exactly what you mean far cry 2 was good but frustrating as hell, there is a good reason why the less realistic far cry 3 sold so well
Sometimes more realistic doesn't mean better.
I've played enough Planetside 2 infantry combat to know concussion and screenshake don't belong in online shooters. One tank shell hitting near you making it feel like your aiming your gun in a 9.0 earthquake. That's one guaranteed way of making people not want to log into the game.
@@BallBusta As someone who has also played many, many hours of Planetside 2, I honestly have to disagree. I think it makes the all-aspect warfare much more immersive. I would prefer the screen to blur for concussion, and for inputs to be delayed/slowed when the gunner is injured, but not the reticle moving around, since the crew being stunned shouldn't affect the canons position unless it's stabilized directly by a person.
I think gaijin knew it would be an unpopular option but still threw it in to add more than 2 choices
I couldn’t care less whether stun gets implemented or not but I really was they had chosen a more realistic way of implementing crew recovery.
I kind of wish we got an event or test server, and could give feedback on what about the mechanics we like and don’t. Doing a poll based on information from one dev blog seems a bit minimal for how big the changes are.
Also concerning how many people STILL don’t understand how stun was going to work.
I didn't even know there was a poll but there are 2 likely reasons (without typos) for it to not add to 100% - the first is that there was a third option of 'I don't know/care'/'no opinion'. The second is that they filtered out some responses from players who may have had fewer than x number of battles - either because they maybe are 'too new' and wouldn't understand how the game works at all or more likely an attempt to weed out any bot voting to try and force the poll a certain way and so only legitimate player votes are counted. 'World of Warships' did something similar when they were implementing their garbage CV changes - albeit that was also because they had an agenda and needed to toss out like 20% or more of the votes that took the 'approval' of the changes from whatever low as hell number to I think 38% approving it so they shoved it down our throats.
Also - they're saying that they'll drop the stun mechanic entirely if the other changes essentially deal with the 'ineffective hit' issue with the larger tanks/simpler models. And I'd assume - because it's being rolled out in stages and because it'd be BS to muck with and start an unneeded fire in the community, that the max repair times stay the same - it's just there's more things that can be broken. Which I'm fine with basically having more detailed damage models and things that can catch fire catching fire for a small penalty. I mean - yeah that one low French heavy could be annoying hitting an open space cause the round was a little left or right but my bigger issue with 'ineffective rounds' is honestly BR placement/Valance with tanks that are way too high with way too weak guns/rounds or more often tanks with armour that probably shouldn't be at the low BR are they are, most belonging to one particular nation, with some outliers in others like UK (where I have sat laughing in Churchill's the same as when I play some Russian tanks as 3+ players shoot at me even point blank and can't punch through the armour).
Please note. The stun mechanic will be postponed for now and will return later, thats what is written in the devblog
If stun is added then the game will die off just like World of Tanks.
If that happens f gaijin ima quit
Absolute W from the voting community for voting against the stun mechanic. Gameplay NEEDS to be prioritised over realisim when push comes to shove
3:29 boy that guy was carrying the ammo of the entire eastern front
3:14 this would make spaa’s pure cancer
Imagine getting stun lock by autocannon
ask the russian tankers getting fired at by Bradley chain guns, they ll tell you how unbearable it gets inside the tank cuz of all the noise.
@@wulfheort8021yes. And real Russians like it less
They wear special head gear that dampens noise though. This has been the norm for tankers since at least ww2. At most they would hear little plinking sounds but it would just allow them to see where the rounds are coming from.
you wouldn’t you’d only be stunned once before the gunner/ driver/ whoever gets killed
@@BoleDaPole Do you have any idea how hard a 30 or 20 mm shell fired from a high velocity cannon impacts? And how unbearably loud it sounds when you 're in an acoustic chamber of metal? Even the best protection for your ears would still do a minimal job at reducing the sonic chaos. That T-90 that got fired at by the Bradley in the Ukrainian war didn't suffer any internal damage, but the hits rocked the crew so bad they got all confused, not able to return fire, eventually the Bradley damaged the optics and the computer system of the horizontal turret drive and the crew drove the T-90 into a tree before abandoning it.
Instead of having stun, they could just add more smoke when the round explodes. It actually bring in another use case for the HE round in regular tank combat (which is just entirely neglected at the moment...)
There are already tank parts that are modeled, like gun sights, view ports, that do nothing but increase repair time when damaged.
So does ”injured crewmembers” include the ones that are dead aswel or just the ones that are damaged but still got some health left?
I checked the forum but I didn't see a way to vote...
I would just like new gamemodes and no I am sure they won't split the player base too much.
hm. i knew about the changes but somehow it went by me that there was a poll ... too bad they didnt do a popup ingame...
With stun mechanic Gajin went slightly overboard with it. It could be just simple screen blur when large shell hits a tank, and nothing when say autocannons are hitting. That would be simplest and most non invasive way to implement it.
It was only going to happen when your crew was injured by a hit.
Any form of stun will ruin this game. It destroyed World of Tanks.
I do want the stun/concussion mechanics, but instead of a reticle sway, it would make more sense to blur the screen and/or slow inputs like CoD's concussion grenades, especially since tank cannons are, for the most part, mechanically aimed and not very sensitive to the gunner himself moving around.
While this is the better of the available outcomes with crew stun and so on, what we will have now is grounds for a magnitude more of faulty hit detection and the frustration from it. Remember the infamous Tiger's driver port eating rounds? Now think of that but a lot more components to fuck up your shot. And healing? Why in any world is that a better choice overall compared to just a better Crew Replenishment?
Also notice the wording of the notice here, Gaijin hasn't dropped the idea of stunned crew or internal fires yet, they want to tweak it and present it forth again at a later date.
That just sounds terrible air time if the stun thing happens
T90m beyblade turret would be sick
I’m glad most players said no stun/concussion
I am kinda seeing them making german tanks catch fire for hits to the transmission like they did to german tanks in WoT
Proposal sim gets rebranded as highly or ultra realistic battles with these things
This game is already a pain to play, there is a reason I left it but adding a stun mechanic would make me want to remove the game from my library completely lol
We got what we wanted for the most part, now let's just hope they keep their end of the deal and not backstab us later on.
I think they could implement some of these features in the different the game modes, arcade should be left basic with no change to make it fun, simulator would be half of the new changes and realistic should be all the things they talked about, otherwise it will become super frustrating if it becomes to complicated, ie how will it determine a concussion or internal component failure, some WW2 tanks just crapped themselves without being hit. Modern tanks have better internal linning to eliminate possible concussions, so there's a lot of factors that it would apply to some tanks but not some at same time... Humm if they rush this it will become a major stuff up.
You switched sim and realistic. Sim is more closer to real life than realistic is
New modules 85.54% yes 13.6% no
Heal wounded crew 85.67% yes 13.92% no
Stun/concussion 40.99% yes 58.29% no
New fire sources 47.95% yes 51.08% no
Discrepancy could if there was an indifferent option maybe? Which could have been from another polling method, or just simple non response
Fixing lightly damaged components is something that should be fixed
I think they should have add on armor for more vehicles and i also think they should let you put the armor where you want up to a certain weight limit, it would also be cool if you could use different materials like sand bags, logs, water filled jerry cans.
They need to allow more decorations and decal slots too. Maybe limit the amount of camouflage one can add to 4 -6 with 15 slots total.
What is CAS spam :)
Ngl i thought the healing mechanic was already in the game
since the vitality description for ground units says something about their recovery
depends on how you look at it, but either way it just reduces damage taken by crew members being hit. whether you see that as a bigger health pool, 'armour' of some kind, or that they 'recover' HP after being hit, I don't think it's the same healing-over-time gaijin suggested.
@@MemekingJag no I mean
That one is the main point of vitality but also, the description said that it reduced the time for the crew to recover
It didn't specified if it was to replace someone on a point or for health
But still, something that made me think for a while
@@michaelruiz0621 it could be that it currently does influence the crew respawn timer you can use on capture points, i'm not sure. I know filling in for a crew slot takes the agility skill, but yeah, if that mechanic were added I'd imagine vitality would influence the hp/sec you would recover.
Crew does recover, but insanely slowly and not even noticeable if the dude is almost ded (red)
It probably exponentially grows the more damaged the specific dude is, but I've had a light yellow guy return to normal
Most of those crew stats do absolutely nothing.
All you need is the stats to maximize the vehicle, like reload, accuracy, repair time, crew replenish time, arty call time and accuracy, that's about it.
What happened to the APHE rework???
Nice
still no air vehicles excluding ground rb mode.
or increased spawn points for planes.
idgaf ....
All these mechanics will make the British tech tree with its solid shot much better.
I just feel like these changes are not really anything anyone wanted at any point. It's cool that they want to develop the game further, however all of these changes would make it generally easier to kill someone, given that you've penned them. I feel like only light vehicles and helicopters need a change.
I have a question. What can I do after I accidentally lost my 4 year login streak because I was 3 minutes to late?
Nothing. Maybe a sign of god...
Can’t wait for the new modules to eat entire shells
Also far more detailed leaked documents 😍
thank god
Maybe rework of ux and clan stuff?
One day, there will be changes to Naval and Coastal, and they'll be good....BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY.
Honestly allowing recovery seems a really bad choice. It will just help campers and snipers to stay behind cover and even heal crews. In real life a crew member doesn't heal, he just survives. Reload rate is still bad, driving is bad,... you do not recover from an explosion on your face. You just survive
anyone know what the wishlist feature does when you right click on tanks and stuff?
It ads the vehicle to your wish list, somebody can buy it for you.
@@number7red619 another useless thing, prob will never use it
Ground wont ever get a win until they do something about air in game. Dont completely remove it but there shouldn't be planes within the first 2-3 minutes of the game and there shouldn't be more planes than ground vehicles
Bro... War thunder adding stuns is basically like : lets play world of tanks
People thinking stun is a good idea will just be pissed when it's implemented and we just have more unbalanced ways to die. In theory, it's not a horrible idea, but it's Gaijin we're talking about.
interesting interesting
You never win against the snail you just dont lose
What if they made polls for their br changes 💀
So the players voted NO to have additional sources of fire and gaijin is going ahead with doing it anyway lmao
You should do a video on console war thunder. We're basically the forgotten middle child of the ports for this game and we need some recognition for the suffering we've been through 😂
World of tanks stun doesn’t need to invade, you don’t want it trust me
Stun killed World of Tanks. If they force it in the game in any style then War Thunder will die off. Stun is also unrealistic.
I'm glad people mostly voted no on the stun proposal. Why would Gaijin even poll that? I don't think the 42% of monkeys that voted yes on that one even understand how fuckin horrible that would be. There are some games that concussion is fine in, but I promise you, War Thunder isn't one of them.
Yeah, let's not ask AB players about air mission in ground battles destroying the game all the time with lawnmowing bombers.
"Going to be implemented slowly"...TRANSLATION: We won't give it to Russian MBTs until we are forced kicking and screaming because despite us claiming we are a Hungarian company our loyalty still lies in Moscow's 🟥.
I just destroyed my closet.
Just want maps fixed. --------->
I wouldn't mind stun in Sim battles, but it would be too frustrating for RB or AB
The should have added to stop the Russian German bias in the poll
All these updates are just making me worried
these dmg models changes and br changes
Just cant trust gaijin with models and shiet
"The players (mostly) win again"
These were super divisive polls, some people really do and don't want these mechanics. To say that "the players" won implies that everyone won, which isn't true given there will be players walking away from this disappointed
take into account the casual players that knew nothing of the polls, they come out winners. the new flight mechanics makes heli pve almost unplayable for casual guys, this would make tanks unplayable for casual guys, its already incredibly skewed to the point where I and many of my friends are moving to different games, the hackers and pro players would lose their canon fodder with these changes. the sheer number of players running to get their planes in ground battles, I repeat GROUND BATTLES, is making the game unplayable to a great extent
@@jameslivingstone7428 Sir, I'm making a statement that since not everyone agreed on the polls, there's going to be people who are disappointed with the results
You are 100% right, there will never be perfect agreement
Everyone: Celebrating this poll thingy
(the Cheating problem joining in the celebration party)
So.. they cherry pick some pre-determined areas to "re-work" then give players a chance for a simple yes-no response.
Are any of these (apart from crew healing) that important to the majority of players? Has there been considerable, continuous discussion about these? There are certainly a lot of areas that have constant discussion (read vitriolic argument) but are still avoided by Gaijin.
It's just a bit of candy so that they can say "we conversed with the player base to get their opinion" and go ahead and do whatever they like.
Poll?
Can we please, for the love of all that is Holy, get a game mode where there are ground vehicles ONLY. So many games now where people run to get a point, J out, go into a plane and start bombing ruining the game for those that only play tanks, or they die and leave the game leaving your team really short on people.
Also, the new flight mechanic for choppers and planes has made flight impossible for casual players, I always enjoyed Heli PVE, now I can barely move my chopper, it also kills low level flight towards targets to avoid gepards as it is so incredibly twitchy
I think the proposed stun mechanics would go quite well in sim battles and just leave it out of RB
Also when did the mobile Sherman get its special tag back?
Honestly, I would love to see another pool about the stun mechanic but splited into 2 pools, 1- if you agree with the 1/4 aim off, 2- if you agree with all the other things. My theory is that the people only don't want to lose the aim when hit.
2s38 still at 10.0 yay
M18 still 5.7, YAY
@@GrenedearProductions It's going to 6.0 ya know.
@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933I swear people think the M18 is OP or something, at best it should be 5.3. It’s straight up the worst tank on my Italian 5.7 lineup and now it’s getting moved up
@@Iden_in_the_Rain I was just stating that it wasn't 5.7 anymore, then you start whinging.
@@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 I wasn’t aiming the comment at you, it was meant at the br change in general
I think I m the only guy who want see how it would play out with these stun and the fire one
As an event or something maybe
I honestly think stun COULD be implemented, but for only specific shells like HESH, Solid Shot, HE, etc, but only if it's done RIGHT, and it's not fucked. But knowing the Snail, that won't happen
The majority of players say no, so scrap the idea. Don’t keep trying to force the square into the round hole. No means no, I hate this r@pist mentality Gaijin has with shitty mechanics. Why even ask if you’re just gonna do it anyway?
I don't like the healing thing, why would you vote "yes" on that?
It's realistic my guy. Crews usually have medical supplies to treat injuries
because currently it's better to have 4/5 crew members, one of whom dies and can get fully replaced at full HP on a cap point than survive with a 5/5 injured crew that will die to the tiniest bit of spalling from an almost non-pen HEAT round.
We can repair complex internal modules in our tanks from being completely broken, shouldn't the surviving crew at least be able to bandage themselves up too?
Personally I think it should only be on non-autoloaded tanks, or at least be most effective on them. Autoloaders can’t be damaged currently, so buffing non-autoloaders is fair
@@hyrumzaugg5749 in real life you have bandages to go back to the hospital, otherwise you fight in a really bad shape ! For sure you don't recover from red crew member to white one with passing time... recovering crew members will just help campers and snipers
for fuck sake do not make this game like wot , damn , its good like it is , let it be like the way it is
First!😂
Nick gurr🤬🤬🤬🤬🔥🔥🔥
wish we had stun and concussion mechanics :(
tank gameplay has been getting stale
did your mom drop on your head?
how would stun and concussion mechanics make combat any more interesting though? It makes the game more braindead by rewarding any penetrating hit with a complete stop on all tank functions. previously, you had to put conscious effort into where you placed your first shot, especially with non APHE focused nations/ranks. Now, whether you shot the driver or the gunner first, doesn't matter, tank is dead in the water.
Idk wat u be playing, maybe top-tier. It's not stale at all lol. Top-tier definitely is
@@MemekingJagthat isn’t how stun was going to work at all. Only injured crew members would be stunned so you still need to hit them.
@@russman3787 except you wouldn't.... because by that wording any shrapnel "hitting" a crew member would cause this effect, hence you would no longer need to aim well as any shot that is made where the crew are would as I stated set this effect off as shrapnel will hit 1 or more crew members.
The players will never win.