Is This Character A Joke?? | Anti-Lad Is A Bit Awkward
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- DC Comic's Legion of Superheroes were a team hailing from the future with a large cast of characters including Superboy and Supergirl. However the team was also known for rejecting applicants, sometimes they would form their own team for them, like the Legion of Substitute Heroes. Sometimes rejected Legion hopefuls would become super villains, and sometimes you would have strange cases like the tale of Anti-Lad. Coming from the Bronze Age and the early transfer period between artists Dave Cockrum and Mike Grell would come a tale with a character who I may need to censor. Was his design on purpose, and what was his story? Learn all about Anti-Lad here on Casually Comics!
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What would you call a Superboy Biography?
Certified Cool Guy:
The Unauthorized Conner Kent Story
Wait. Wrong Superboy.
Funnily enough The Big S would be a great superman biography title
Growing Up Kent 🖖🏾
The once true story of the original Superboy: Not the murder, or the clone, or his adopted son or his biological one
The man with the big S
Actually, Anti-Lad was the most popular character in the history of comics.
We just all forgot. 😊
Actually, I believe that was Superduperman?
So HE was the original Sentry? Whoever that was?
Grell was known for his "What's holding it up?" style of costume design. Adhesive swim wear, corsets and boudoir kink are all street legal in the 24th (?) century.
I always assumed Shadow Lass was stark naked all the time and her "costume" was just patches of darkness she'd whipped up for the prudes.
And we are grateful ❤
30th, but hey. :)
Maybe the idea's that Anti-Lad's meddling caused Superboy to fail the intiation tests for real, but then Anti-Lad convinced the Legion they needed to have Superboy join anyway, so they made up all that stuff about purposely sabotaging the tests as a hazing ritual ... but once they've done that, now EVERY new inductee has to be brutally hazed, and thus a horrific ritual was born.
I like this idea
How else is he going to penetrate the space time continuum?
Carey Bates isn't the most fondly remembered Legion writer for multiple reason, his bad grasp of canon by far not the worst reason (hi Tyroc).
Later Legion stories actually establish that Supergirl and Brainy did in fact join before Superboy - the Legion was too nervous to directly go to their idol and had to have practice run first. In later reprints of Adventure #247, some background characters are even recolored to look like actual Legionnaires, including Brainy. The chronology during the original backup era is convoluted, and not just because it involves time travel (hi Silver Age DC editors)
Canon is exhausting.
Yeah. I've even speculated that Superboy and Star Boy each had already met the other when they met for the "first" time, due to time travel. (Star Boy introduces himself to Superboy as a new Legionnaire while visiting the 20th century, but when Star Boy joined, Superboy was already there). Big joke on each other.
There was no retcon, however, that could save Tuska's flashback panel in Superboy 173, depicting Matter-Eater Lad, Light Lass and Mon-El all present at Superboy's swearing-in. All three definitively joined after the Boy of Steel -- with Ayla coming on board as Lightning Lass.
Now I'm curious about the biography he was writing
Lol me too
Yes, I remember Anti-Lad and his interestingly-shaped head. What concerns me about him and other super-future characters (the Green Lantern series sometimes visited the 57th century or something crazy like that) is where did those futures come from (or go) with all the rebooting the DC universe has endured? I don't even know anymore how many distinct versions of the Legion there's been now, at least four (and counting?).
At last count there are seven. They are:
- Version 1 (V1): The original. This version ended shortly after the Five-Year Gap.
- Version 2 (V2): This version succeeded V1. Similar to V1 but reflected the changes due to "Crisis on Infinite Earths" (COIE). Came to an end with "Zero Hour".
Version 3: This featured split-timelime teenaged duplicates of the Legion members. Were known as Legionnares. In conjunction with "Zero Hour" this version fused with V2 and were deleted from History.
Version 4 (V4): Introduced after "Zero Hour". This was a new version of the LSH that started from scratch.
Version 5: This was another version of the LSH that superceded V5. Known as the Threeboot, it turned out that this was the LSH from Earth-Prime, the same Earth as Superboy-Prime.
Version 6: This was a version of the LSH similar to V1 but COIE never happened. Due to this, the characters are much older.
Version 7: This version came out of "Doomsday Clock" and is a complete reboot of the LSH. As far as I know this is the current version.
I always joked that the editor must've said to Grell, "Hey, can we get rid of all that pink in Cosmic Boy's costume?" and Grell took him literally...snip, snip, snip...
Mike Grell is my FAVORITE Legion and Comic book artist! My deep respect to the late great Dave Cockrum, but it was Mike Grell art that got me into comics and the legion (my first issue was #203) And he's a better writer than artist (Warlord, StarSlayer, Jon Sable and Green arrow: long Bow Hunter) and this was a great issue for us bronze age babies! Long Live ANTI -LAD! Seriously, I was always hoping as a kid that they woudl bring him back.
I liked both Cockrum and Grell. Cockrum deserves the credit for his artistic revamp of the Legion but Grell was a more than competent artist to follow. The one thing that often stood out to me about Grell's art though was his penchant for the "spread-thighs" heroic stance. As he became further removed from Cockrum (Grell was inking Cockrum before he left) these spread-leg stances appear more often. I can't understand why this is a thing in the 30th Century. They look actively painful. Maybe you could do a show on them?
I think the Grell's over enthusiastic heroic stance is his trade mark!
I love the silver age and see you obviously have a great respect for them too but I actually grew up in the bronze age and the Legion was my absolute favorite so I'm glad to see this being covered on your channel which I just subscribed to after seeing the show on Satan Girl. Long Live the Legion!
Anti-Lad. The superhero who never wore a turtle neck and always had one unblinking eye on crime.. and maybe Supergirl's big S.
So wait, he's got a hypnovisor? Why didn't he just show up, give them the command "Give Superboy another chance" and then leave?
I don't think the "inaccuracies" mattered back then. Look at those original Legion costumes (Cosmic Boy in a helmet, Saturn Girl in yellow, etc.) I'd say they were "retconning" the old ("dated") elements, albeit temporarily. As for the girl with the "big S," look at the panel you chose and the insignia on her cape. Pretty darn big!
Cockrum would be my favorite Legion artist, with Grell a close second. Cockrum had a tough time getting good inkers compatible with his style, while Grell had better luck (except for the many times he was inked by Colletta).
Yes! I love both of their work and as you touch on it, I nearly want to cry every time I think of Colletta’s inking on the tabloid - I think Grell feels much the same way 😐
Colletta was the worst. I'd love to see a reprint of Warlord inked by someone else.
@@JohnMinehan-lx9ts lol. You're a better person than I am.
This was my first issue of the Legion, and my third comic overall.
Yes! Mine too. Not my first purchase, but the first Legion comic I read.
It was my first issue too, although I didn't starting collecting it until Issue #210.
I don't know if that was a good or bad thing. I was still hurting by the exit of Dave Cockrum as Legion artist. Grell had his moments, but I think his later work is vastly superior to his Legion work.
One of my favourite joining pieces was Polar Boy freezing Energy Lad’s (?) energy give so it falls to the floor with the sound effect “FLUNK”
Its kinda refreshing to see a fan not turn out to be evil and only go out of the way to help their heroes.
That's a thing?
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 read the Flash....he had a famous rival used to be fan of him and then turned to a Super-villain named Reverse-Flash
YAYYYY!!!! Thank you so much! A true Legion video at last! Years of waiting have finally payed off! Legion Playlist! Legion Playlist!
I think my favorite is when they created that legion academy and then bumped all the substitutes into the academy. Then they literally ended up going nowhere
Thank you for a great episode. One way to make this story fit into the continuity - the way Superboy was hazed and treated explains why Superman was later such a jerk with Lois Lane at times. He was just carrying on the cycle of abuse and shame! :)
Regarding the "Supergirl and Brainiac 5 would've had to have joined first" situation, it was commonly known after a certain point that, yes, Supergirl did join before Superboy did, even though the stories were therefore told out of order. And in fact, in reprints of the first Legion story, one of the background nameless Legion members is usually recolored to look like Brainiac 5.
ok. Now do the Braniac 5 and Supergirl story from that issue! Also, there's a lot of sinewy teens getting tied up, in chains, or being "dominated" in Grell's art.
Let's take a moment to remember that Grimbor the Chainsman was created by Grell and Shooter. The bondage just comes with the territory over at DC - right Mister Marston? :)
I got into the Legion post the Grell Era though I've got memories of the 'intense shading' in the 80s. I'm team Cockrum for costumes but already biased as an X--Men fan. That being said, Grell's Warlord and Green Arrow are iconic!
It’s not an S, on her world it means Hope… So when she walks in with that itty bitty waist, and puts that round S in your face… she’s just trying to cheer you up lol
She sure does Hank, she sure does
Does that mean Powergirl, lacking an S, has just a large S-hole?
Cranium, Richard Cranium, not Johnson lol🖖🏾
Can't a guy evolve a cleft on his head without people's minds going into underpants land? Okay, I saw it too, lol! The Legion is always a good time. Sasha, I think you'd really enjoy "Elastic Lad Jimmy and His Legion Romances" from Jimmy Olsen #76. Loved the vid as always! You're the best!
Your recommendation for further reading put my mind *deep* into underpants land.
@@TitularHeroine 😂
No way I just bought a random comic Superboy 204 the other day which happened to be his first appearance, first time hearing of the character and now u made this vid. I too was concerned about his head shape 😂
This was really good fun. I'm thoroughly enjoying these stories from the Legion. Please keep 'em coming.
Mike Grell is the better artist, hands down.Maybe I am a bit bias, this comic came out right around the time I started reading comic books and was one of the first comic books I ever bought. This era of the Legion, The Warlord and Green Lantern/Green Arrow really dominated my early comic book collection. I would really love to see him to another run on Green Arrow.
Agreed. I even followed over to the smaller publishers for Starslayer and Sable Freelance. Some good stuff.
Absolutely loved the Warlord & his Green Arrow!
Hmm. 70s Cockrum easily beats 70s Grell, but by the 80s, Grell has probably surpassed Cockrum as a penciller. Cockrum was the better costume and character designer.
This was one of my earliest S/LSH books. #201 was another great one. Introduced three applicants, two of which later (much later) became Substitute Heroes
I started collecting comics in '74, the year Anti-Lad made his appearance. I remember thinking he had a cool costume and - although there's a hint of Riff-Raff in the sweeping shoulder pads [shoulder pads? epaulettes? whatever they are] - for a Grell design, at least he's doesn't look like an escapee from Greenwich Village [I'm looking at YOU, Warlord]. However, I confess any phallic-headed innuendos slipped right past me at age 10!
It never occurred to me that Anti-Lad's head resembled a phallis until your video! Then again, I was only 11 myself at the time, living in the backwoods of Colorado. We still had comic books though!
🤣🤣🤣An absolutely hilarious video with great double entendres and puns. Love your wit and humor. I hope your voice is rested and you feel better.
Long live the Legion!
This video made me consider a timeline where the Legion of Superheroes ends up in a scenario where they put Lobo through the recruitment tests. He was already a "member" of L.E.G.I.O.N. but I'm fuzzy on whether the two groups are related in anything other than name.
Originally, L. E. G. I. O. N. featured members who were the ancestors of members of the Legion of Super-Heroes. They included Virl Dox (Brainiac 5) and Lyrissa Mallor (Shadow Lass).
Loved Mike grell artwork still an underrated dc team fantastic stories
Talk about not being remembered!! I had that issue, but completely forgot his story. I do remember the Brainiac 5/Supergirl robot story, and thinking how heart broken you had to be to build a robot of your ex.
Heart broken, insanely creepy, frustrated about Kara saying "no" to trying a threesome sometime...something like that.
I could not unsee it even before you mentioned it.
Reminds me of the hero Wildstar, or ERG-1, that died while trying to join the Legion. They did not accept him because he all he could show them was his ability to mimic the other members powers. ERG-1 "died" by draining all of his energy trying to save a member. He does later reconstitute himself where he picks up the name WildFire.
I love for you to do an video on ERG-1\Wildfire.
Every instance of hazing I see reminds me why it's gone 😂
My dear, you are SUPERB! Your channel stays on topic! (P.S. Comic book movies and TV Shows are under The COMIC umbrella and their for is fare game. 😊)
I LOVED Grell's art...particularly Cosmic Boy's, Chlorophyll Kid's and Tyroc's...ESPECIALLY Tyroc's!
Grell loved his beefcake. Just look at Warlord and Starslayer.
Some of his poses were so static, but his design for Chlorophyll Kid's new outfit was possibly his best Legion design. His worst would be the short pants and slippers look he gave to Colossal Boy (didn't last long, thankfully).
Grell's work on " Warlord" is a favorite of mine.
Thanks for doing this LSH series! Although I became and remained a Marvel Comics fan for most of my life (I’m turning 59 next year) my earliest memory of having a comic, reading it and understanding the story and being able observe and appreciate the art work was with Superboy and the LSH by Mike Grell! I loved Grell’s work-I still think his superboy “S” emblem is the best version!
Continuity wasn't such a big thing back then, especially under Boltinoff so they got away with fudging little things like who joined the Legion first.
I like Cockrum better, partly because his changes in design were so sharp and dynamic. Of course, he was only the Legion artist for a brief time so you get the feeling that you missed his true greatness.
Grell was ground-breaking when he started out. But after a few years, you could tell his heart wasn't in it anymore and he preferred to be on other characters.... mainly his own creations.
I'd like to write a Legion reboot that includes various obscure rejected/expelled Legionnaires like Anti-Lad, Storm Boy, Dynamo Boy, Command kid, &c.
I am in my fifties and love the Legion and resd it as a kid!!. I cannot unsee this. (sob!) That head. (choke!)
Very nice Ep. Long Live the Legion!
THANKS for this - these LSH & Superbly stories were my favorite comics when I was a. kid in the 1970's. - I liked Mike Grells work . including JOHN SABLE
Sable was good stuff for quite a while. You read Starslayer as well?
I wonder if he made use of any of Kristin Wells' observations of Superman from the 29th century.
I liked the art of that era. Holy Sh*& , those stories were profound. nice outfit/hair 🤔
It would be great if a new drawn version of ANTI-LAD could get made now, and have this old classic character, appear a few times in the new DC cartoon shows.
The girl with the big S broke me 😂😂😂
10:57 Bates blew it. Matter Eater Lad is there, and he joined later. Also, Light Lass has the feather emblem way too soon.
this was my first favorite comic. i may have had comics before this, probably did, but this is the first one that i actually remember remembering.
ThankyouthankyouTHANKYOU, Sasha!!!
Legion content! I'm so happy! And several mentions of Cosmic Boy's glued-on Grell costume.
The Supergirl Love Doll that Brainy made also makes an appearance. Ah, the 70s. LOL!
TV Show Lightning Lad would be like:
"So, why did Anti-Lad look like a dom with head of pen-"
And then TV Show Brainiac 5: What are you talking about?!
Oh, I love the Legion are there many. MANY reboots lol
Kinda sad that because they get rebooted so often that the characters you fall in love with will get erased back to Phase 1 every time some dumb-dumb decides to make the timeline their b****. I'm looking at you, FLASH FAMILY.
@@luigiboi4244 Don't remind me, I know that pain too well.
I honestly want to get into the legion comics (i only saw the cartoon) but i don't know where to even start because there are so many
Haha 😂" Pepperidge Farm Remembers"! I love that.
Looking at Anit-lad reminds me of a line Biff says in Back to the Future: "What are you looking at, butthead?"
Hmmm i don't know if he's a joke, but he's making me aroused...why are the Legion of Superheroes such a bullies? 😂
"Because we're trying to save the galaxy, not your precious feelings!" _-Matter-Eater Lad_
I love the single mindedness when it comes to their rules.
“Sorry Superman 2, Our rules say no repeat powers so we can’t let you in even if you have the exact same set of powered abilities as Superman. We’ll be accepting Disco Dance Party Boy instead”
@@nilus2k This happened with Ultra-Boy AND Mon-El.
I was amused how the Legion would use technicalities to get around their admission bylaws. Each member was required to have a UNIQUE super-power…so what about having Superboy, Supergirl AND Mon-El on the team? Well, Kal-El and Kara Zor-El lived in the 20th Century, so were technically part-time, RESERVE members.
And Ultra Boy’s powers (seemingly identical to Mon-el’s -but limited to only ONE power at a time)? Well, Ultra Boy’s X-Ray vision (excuse me, “Ultra-Vision”) could see through ANYTHING--including lead.
The later Legionnaire “Blok”? Just another invulnerable, super-strength character…EXCEPT for his virtually never-used ability to absorb (and then discharge) energy attacks used against him.
And Timber Wolf? Super-strength, reflexes, etc…but not nearly at Mon-El’s level. Still, Timber Wolf (originally “Lone Wolf”) was admitted into the team because…well…er…
He was just REALLY COOL, okay?
The Legion had no rules that they weren't able to waive with a, err, wave of their hands.
I can't believe Superboy got the shaft initially.
Lol I can't breath, the censored thumbnail😂
About the same time this comic came out Piers Anthony put out a book about a telescope that could look back in time, "Macroscope" and because of the pervy uses it could be put to the engineers working on it called it 'the super-dooper-pooper-scooper'.
Man, that was a long time ago. Piers Anthony hasn't written scifi in decades, nothing but a Xanth mill for ages now. His stuff was always a little peculiar, but he didn't start out as the formulaic hack he's become.
One can make the strong argument that early Legion stuff has the first real meta experiment's in the context of mainstream super hero comics.
Hope your throat feels better soon. I Never get my head out of the gutter.
"It's the 75th century, triangles have taken over!"
Ummm...character being called to his son's *cubicle* in the same panel you're freaking out about. Think we can safely conclude that the purge of parallelograms remains an unfinished work.
You, go girl, and unearth more obscure comic facts!
Dominoes already date back several hundred years, but no one today calls it "the ancient game of dominoes".
Polar Boy being rejected was great. Man had ice powers that’s epic
He got rejected because he could not adequately control his powers.
@@Solitaire001 he got rejected because he used his powers and solar boy told him that he was worried other legion members might get too cold when he uses his powers. They just didn’t want to be inconvenienced by him
The Swinging Seventies Supergirl costume 😮
You should do the story of Grimsbor the Chainsman, a legion foe from Superboy 221, and his partner Charma. Classic Mike Grell art on that one too. Ah, Charma! Wonderful gal, Charma, was. She had the power to charm any man but had the big weakness that any woman would hate her and try to kill her.
Once captured, she was sent to an all women's prison where, surprise surprise, she was killed be either the female guards or prisoners.
Great Mike Grell art though.
The inconsistency that I noticed as a kid was that the pose Anti-Lad's shadow has on the cover doesn't match up with his hand pointing at the Legionnaires. I loved the Supergirl robot story, still remember feeling so bad for Brainiac.
I love how Superboy linked the Founders back on the anniversary of his induction.
Just think. the Legion gave us the entire explanation of the Mandela Effect long before it was a thing. Some of us remember when Superman and Batman got along. Mandela Effect for sure.
The final test being how someone handles rejection feels like how Batman would determine who should join the Justice League. AND I totally buy he could convince the others, even Superman, to allow that as the final test. However, Superman and probably Black Canary (at least the Young Justice version) would probably push for, "Well, if they fail to join the JLA, but otherwise qualify, surely they should be recommended to join the Teen Titans or something for a couple years until they're ready to try again?" And I would love to see that be a recurring thing in DC comics going forward. Despite all reboots and everything, always have Batman give THAT final test, and then them either passing, by responding like Superman would, or be recommended for a "junior team" like Teen Titans.
Carey Bates was a bad egg. In a JLA/JSA team up Bates journeyed to Earth 2 and killed several members of the JSA. They got better .
Great editing on this video! The cuts to other clips and images were all super funny
Anti-Lad will henceforth be called Censored-Lad.
Well that explains why Sensor Girl showed up covered head to toe! Clearly didn't want the name change.
Speaking of Mike Grell, how about a video about The Longbow Hunters and his run on Green Arrow? My introduction to Ollie Queen, and in introspect, I was probably WAAAAY too young to be reading it.
On the subject of futuristic/evolved characters having enlarged craniums, did you ever read "Lois Lane's Super Brain"?
Indeed, his name was Richard Johnson.😊
Another adorable glimpse into the comic book past, as is your wont, Sasha. My only comment would be: Cockrum or Grell? Why, the correct answer is Curt Swan (which works for any book that contains a big red "S")!
Sasha. Head in the gutter GIF was so appreciated!
On the 75th century, Angleman is king.
This one was one of my first ever LSH comic book. And Mike Grell is one of my favorite LSH artist
Am I weird for being more stuck on the name "AntiLad" than on his, um...head?
Lol he had no time to plan a name
I'm more weirded out by the potential for homophonic variations. Ante-Lad, whose superpower is gambling. Auntie-Lad, whose superpower is being your mother's sister no matter who or what you are. Ant-y Lad, whose superpower is being sort of like an ant but not really, you know, super strong and can climb stuff pretty good - but not shrinking, that's the other guy.
Bates stories are interesting because he usually had a 4 Legionnaire limit. It did allow for more character development
He was a master at writing small adventures that put a spotlight on characters and made you excited to learn more. And i keep repeating myself, but that's something i was sorely missing in Bendis' run.
@ I think the problem that newer writers have is that they are trying to create the whole team immediately. The original Legion took years to develop, and it wasn't until the Levitz Years that they started to develop real personalities.
*"I stumbled upon him on accident."*
*Yeah, sounds about right.* 😏
Funny. My initiation into the Legion was just a quick look at my browsing history. It....didn't go as badly as one would think.
I wondered if you were going to try Dumb Superguy voice even though you were sick. Soldier on!
Dave Cockrum was okay, but I was never a big fan of his artwork. Mike Grell, though, I really liked. Even in his early days of questionable proportions and rubber limbs. And everybody's holding in their stomachs! The real shame was that Grell rarely inked his own pencils, but when he did, it was that much better. I really liked the early issues of Warlord because you can see Grell's artwork improve every issue, plus he had a lot of story to tell in those early issues. I must admit I never cared much for Grell on Batman, but then, I'm pretty picky when it comes to Batman art.
As for Cosmic Boy's newer costume, yeah, I noticed how similar it was to his previous costume, but I really think they should have just changed the pink to a different color instead of exposed skin. But 30th century moral standards or what ever. Cos was probably popular at parties.
No this is on purpose, they were clearly going for the "he's a dickhead" angle with the writing.
I'm surprised a certain joke of his appearance and behavior was at least hinted at.
Where do you be getting these quotes though
(I'm always impressed)
You should cover Tap Dance Killer
Oh, so Forget Me Not from the X-men must be a distant ancestor of Anti-lad…maybe?
Why does Cosmic Boy make me shiver with.............
Anticipation?
😆
Cosmic Boy’s corset look 😍😍😍 We need more male superheroes dressed like female heroes.
You're going to want to look at more of Grell's work, then. Man loved his beefcake (and cheesecake, to be fair - equal opportunity baker). Cosmic Boy's conservatively dressed compared to Warlord and Torin over in Starslayer.
Agreed. That costume is great
Yeah read this story. Poor feller, Anti Lad could not even get a DC Who's Who entry
I think Anti-Lad should have been named Phallic Lad. I like both Mike Grell and Dave Cockrum's art on Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes. Did you know that when Dave Cockrum left Superboy and the Legion of Superheroes he took two characters over to Marvel Comics All-New, All-Different Uncanny X-Men? Originally, supposed to be Legionnaires was Nightcrawler and Storm. That would have changed comic book history.
Just don't rub Phallic Lad. 😁😆😅
1) Cockrum, yesterday, today & tomorrow.
2) I believe, Anti-Lad, and, Weirdo, both made a return in a crowd scene during the, "Legion of 3 Worlds".
3) Always a hoot to muse on Kara's big "S" and, Anti-Lad's, phallic head. 😆
“I Love You Anti-Butthead Lad!”