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Ahaha. don't want to yell* but maybe just to tell not only the author but everyone that this is going to be green, like a garden, that's not growing in my physqe coz I don't have money. Ahaha, now. lol, it's a different me. Like feasting down lumber trees on freeze frame am I right mrs mayuko. Bdw, just painted my mental portrait here. Makes this one everybody won't forget on thier foreheads, ahaha. Don't hold back consider this one a contest but non violent. Go for it Your a Full Tiger :)
Life is a harsh reality of hustling. You either choose to chase financial freedom by working hard or you work less strenuous jobs that aren't too good with retirement plans. You can of course be self employed which is usually what I would prefer.
But what if the only reason you want to be alive is because you want to change something in society? Then it feels like the definition of work changes into something that's difficult to articulate.
@samsong samsong so how do I pay bills then? I think this is an easy thing to say but that isn't feasible. We need food, shelter, etc. If you have only that job for income you can't just quit and try something new because you will end up homeless.
Modern society preaches "hustle", but husting needs a lot of energy and stamina. Not everyone has the same high level of energy. This leads most of us to burn-out, depression, and loneliness. I for one always was a shy, quiet kid. I loved my time alone with books and movies. Being in the CS forced me to run faster than my ability and left me thinking I was a handicap in comparison to other extroverted, fast-paced students. Now I have come back to myself. I put my feet on the ground again and going with MY flow! Not society's.
I have a question: Can you survive in CS when you don't hustle? I'm not sure if CS is right for me, I just chose it, because it's interesting and I don't know what else to do. I feel kinda lost.
@@haifutter4166 In my experience, you do not have to necessarily hustle. Just keep moving. Keep learning and keep your eyes open. No matter how slow you move, you will get the reward for your work. I did get it and i saw many others get it as well! It doesn't matter if you do not get to the top in one job, you will get your reward in your next job. Just keep learning.
I hustle to live my best life, which includes plenty of sleep, water, exercise, time to play music and videogames and meaningful learning and work. I hustle everyday.
Linkedin plays a huge role in promoting hustle culture. Much like instagram promotes an unhealthy self-image for many, linkedin promotes unhealthy standards for peoples' relationship to their work.
Can't agree more. My friends are starting to create linkedin account, put their achievements there and use it as a SOCIAL MEDIA to flex 😭😂 anyways i've just deactivated my account and i can continue my life peacefully without any feeling of insecurity.
Yup! Especially when you live in a place like NYC. Recently one of my friends moved to NYC...amazing person. But she's having a hard time because people find her "lazy" for just wanting to go on a simple walk daily instead of doing something more "productive."
its glorified a lot because ppl have big dreams but most don't hustle enough to get there. So they end up complaining about why they're not getting their dreams.
Yessss welcome to the no hustle life. Toxic productivity is truly a curse and I am so tired of everything making us feel like we need to be going at 110% all the time and that making money is the be all and end all. As someone who severely burnt out to the point long term, life changing disability - it’s not worth it. I used to work 5am-11pm, travelling all over the country. And now? I’m lucky if I get 1 hour a day out of bed sat up. Our lives are more precious than our achievements.
Very real - I can relate. I got hit with an undiagnosed chronic illness out of nowhere. Made me realize there's more to life than always getting another promotion, having another business, and always "getting ahead" in some shape or form. People have got to learn how to prioritize self-care more.
@@jjong0711 I couldn't agree more. I have also been neglecting my own health in this very context so it hits quite hard. Always working extra hours to get ahead on a project, always taking extra care to help someone else in the team out but as a result taking on way too much. Stressing about deadlines and thinking about work 24/7 due to the amount of tasks and projects outstanding. Worried about taking leave/taking time back as don't want to be behind with work. This is certainly no way to live but I feel like its the norm in big companies and it really has to change. My health has also declined significantly in the last months and I am pretty sure work pressures played a key part in that. Our company has recently made it clear that meetings should not be booked in people's calendars over the lunch hour as the shocking reality has been that most people just don't even get a chance to have a proper break in the day. I fully agree that it's people's responsibility to prioritise their health and wellbeing but the businesses need to stop pushing employees so hard as there is always another urgent project/task/meeting. I think managers overall have a big role to play here.
@@ayumisae6864 I agree your work culture & environment will play a huge role in all of this. Take care of yourself and I hope things get better for you.
Totally agree! I used to be 200% work kind of guy because I used to work in film commercial industry which requires a lot of overtime work. Then out of no where I got blinded 3 times and I have to change jobs because of the recovery periods. All these incidents leads me to be more self aware and always care about my health first. Now I’m living with one eye but able to organize time better and care about love ones more. :)
THIS. There is something to be said about people who choose to work as though they have no money and people who actually do work their asses off because they have no money. Some hustle as some sort of means of self worth while others hustle because they'd be homeless if they didn't. For those of you who can afford to take time off for yourselves, DO IT because there are too many of us out there who don't have that choice.
@@silenthunder19 So true. I am blessed enough to have a good amount in savings at 24yrs. It has been a blessing to be able to take time off without worrying about if I can pay my rent/buy food/just relax if I take a break from working. I never want to lose that freedom!
@@cosmiccrush22 It can be excruciating, devastating, and sad, but everything has its opposite in life; life can also be exciting, breathtaking, and full of joy.
I totally agree. I mean, what's the point of working so tirelessly day and night if you don't get to enjoy the fruits of your hard work or enjoy life itself?
My friend left his tech job to teach at a tech boot camp for inner city kids who can't afford to go to college. He laments about being "poor af" now, BUT I haven't seen him that happy in years
Eh, I've did the poor af thing. That gets old if you're having trouble making ends meet. Also, if an emergency happens, you're screwed. You need to strike a balance.
im 24 and i also work in tech. I have been going back and forth to the doctors for different health issues for the past year. This past months, I have developed anxiety attacks. Last week, I was told to prioritize another task when I have something more important to do. But I cant say no. So I worked without breaks. While shaking and crying from time to time. And so I realized, i am getting paid well but its not worth it if my health is being compromised. They can replace me so fast if i quit. But i cannot replace my good health and time if i continue.
Yup. I'm currently on a one year self-break after a hectic year of managing as a tech-lead at a startup. Make good money but ended up visiting the hospital due to lack of sleep and insomnia.
It was pretty early on I realized no company in the world gives a flying fuck about any of its employees. You could work for a company for 30 years and do everything asked of you and they would still drop you without a second thought if they wanted. Why be that loyal and work that hard for an entity that doesn't care about you? Don't harm yourself over something as ultimately insignificant as a job.
@@darellarocho5729 it's a place where you deposit pre-tax dollars so others can gamble with it on the stock market. Usually on Blue Chip stocks. Example. If you invested $1000k in Google ten years ago that money would now be $4000k. Now you could forgo the risk and just save $40 bucks per month and you would actually have $4,800 after 10 years. The only real benefit is if your employer contributes to your 401K
"Influencers" and other people in media pretty much only show themselves to us when they are being productive, so it's always nice to think about the other side. Makes me curious to hear Hank Green's take on hustle culture and his own image as an unstoppable idea/business machine.
^big same. The feeling I get from Hank and John that feels unique to their content is that it seems like their content is more... fun? Like, I love that they have their curiosity lead them to places that might not be traditionally be seen as "productive" or a "good business decision", but they do it because they want to (and can). I stan that vibe so hard.
Many of my friends are so highly influenced by social media. It truly affects their mental health...EVEN though they know that what most people put for the public is positive/traveling/ always being productive and that's obviously not 100% what life is like.
I've always found the whole "hustle" branding to be really horrible and disingenuous. Real progress takes time, and burning yourself out to help other people doesn't help anything.
During university I was under-slept and relied on coffee to get through. I was starting to get depressed but wasn’t sure why. My first job as a programmer meant I had to get up earlier to commute everyday so I was even more exhausted. This increase in my depression plus a job which required it’s pound of flesh nearly sent me over the edge (literally). I am so glad that period of my life is over, while I still work in IT in a job I'm so happy with. Rest, happiness and self compassion is most important to me now
@@ic3beartv650 I'm working as a Support Engineer for a big player in cloud. I still have to meet their set expectations to work there, but it is very reasonable and balanced. Plus I get to do a lot of coaching and mentoring
Such hipocrisy. Stop misleading. You landed a job as a programmer precisely because you worked hard in University. Now you advice others to do the opposite. Lol
@@equbalfatmi860 If I could do it again, I would still work hard a university. Though I would do things very differently. Such as made sure I got 8 hours sleep minimum, drank less coffee, and listened to my body for burn-out. I still work hard in my job now, but if my company started setting unrealistic expectations on work output I would resign. No job is worth killing yourself for!
Have definitely felt that way in the last few years working in tech right after graduating. It's also often driven by seeing my peers "succeeding" or doing so much with their time. I tried to emulate that culture, but in the end, I feel so stressed and have had more anxiety than I could ever have. Reflecting on these events, I have come to realize that I don't need to hustle and bustle or "do more now" just to make an impact in the world. Yes, we should work towards a goal. Yes, we should value our time. Yes, we should use our skills to make the world a better place. But that doesn't mean we can't take it in pace. That doesn't mean we can't walk and slowly leave our mark. Just because we aren't doing "great" things or "many" things at the moment, does not mean we won't. Every person's journey is different. Some people make impacts in later stages in life, some do it when they're young. That is to say, we should value our own journey and not be pressured to "go with the flow". We each have our own river to follow. Thank you for posting this video. It makes me feel better to know that I am not alone in feeling this way about the "hustle" culture.
Absolutely love your comment. I will come back to this everytime I am comparing myself to my friends and feel small for not earning as much as them when I damn well know that I like doing things at my own pace.
I agree with everything you just said, besides the leaving your mark part, why do have to leave a mark? We always put so much pressure on ourselves to be remembered or something, when people eventually forget anyway, we all have a hand in the changing of times with our contributions to the economy and society, just live "your" best life, have fun, do everything you want, work to live dont live to work.
As someone who worked as a teacher, this hits HARD. Especially the tendency to glorify the bad work-life balance. Plus, there's the added guilt and bullying you face if you try to put up boundaries.
I only "hustle" when working on my own projects. If im working for a paycheck from someone else your not getting more than 40 hours a week. Fire me I don't give a fuck. Did that 7 day a week shit before, not worth it.
Amen. I almost worked myself to death for a company and they didn't even have the courtesy to fire me in person. The new person just showed up. It turns out that they were firing everybody to hire minimum wage people. SMDH.
@@latatiwari6172 for me it's THREE 14 hour shifts (3 days) and then the rest of the 4 days I pursue what interests me. Right now it's Programming (to make video games in the future for fun), and another hobby/passion/hustle is Stock Trading (this is to make a few extra cash on the side!)
My wife and I were just asking each other this evening what a perfect day would look like. I wrote down everything we said on my whiteboard and it was surprising how pretty much all of it was really doable. Like every day doable. Good food, good coffee, laughter, the woods, hiking, being near water, time with family, good music, etc. We realized there's no reason to not try and hit as many of those targets as possible every single day, even if we just get a single one in. This video really resonated with that for me - pursuing the quality in life. I really appreciate your channel and the content you make. As someone of a similar age in the same industry, it's been really rewarding to watch your journey and I've learned a lot from it. Thank you for being so honest and generous with your story and your growth, it has and continues to help me navigate my own.
Wow, thank you for sharing this. I love that you and your wife did that, that’s a great way to reground and readjust. Maybe I’ll try that out soon too. Thank you 🥰
I used to want to fit into hustle culture so badly! I’d get such bad anxiety because I couldn’t get myself to pick up side hustles, do well in school, and have a full time job. Which is completely insane! It’s been tough, but luckily my partner has helped me so much to understand that what I am doing is enough, and that if the things that I do decide to work on make me happy, then those are the things that I should be doing ❤️
I was so unhealthy after college and I hustled hard for low-paying art gigs just to make ends meet. Eventually I made it out ok, but I really should have developed healthier habits at the time, because my body and mind was a mess. Get your sleep! Eat a vegetable! Spend time with friends. Go for walks.
The sad thing is, not many people know what self care is. They may ONLY think of self care as painting their nails or putting on a face mask. Although that IS part of self care, so is closing your laptop early once in a while. People underestimate the smallest things like: taking a 5 minute break and going on a walk just to get some sun. Or calling an old friend that used to make you laugh so hard.
I totally agree! We are called human "beings" for a reason and we have worth in just existing. Self-worth is a concept not discussed enough. So thank you for sharing, I love your content! ❤️
Mh hm! I used to think like that when I was younger...just because all of my role models were always working, always busy. But the older I get, the more tired I am. The more I appreciate the smallest things in life.
I got hired for a big corp, nice salary and strict abt no overtime, and everyone is nice, learn new things, work, and go the fuck home to their families. I'm very thankful!! I worked that hustle life in a startup, and the 80/100 hr weeks was killing me on the inside
overworking is the norm in this industry, example, the agile method continuously measures how much you can get done in a sprint and always pushes for maximum productivity
@@arvinsim Yes! also suddenly decide 'actually we don't want this feature/it won't work for us'. They don't understand how much work and thought goes into planning an implementation.
balance & boundaries are SO important - but it's so easy to believe opposing messages from society/culture (which often say that those things are harmful/signs of laziness). thank you for this message! 💛
OMG, I also got panic attacks at my first coding job. It was because I hated being in the office. I work remotely now and it's sooo much better. I still hustle though, but try to do it more smartly without sacrificing my health.
I'm still in my last semester for Grade 12 and I already feel overwhelmed by how the world wants me to be. I don't want to be a robot or a slave for one man to become a billionaire. I'm losing passion on all the things I used to love doing. Now I just want to rest all the time. I'm so tired and I don't know what course I'll take in college. I don't know any job/career that I would love to do. Before, the only thing I want to do is to play video games. Now, I can't even last more than 5-10 minutes playing a game. I'm so lost. I'm constantly looking for things that will potentially be fun for me, and so far, I haven't found any. Good thing I have a loving mother, aunt, and a girlfriend (although my girlfriend's experiencing way worse problems than me like being mentally unstable and shit). I just make myself believe that life will be better and this feeling of loneliness and emptiness will eventually pass.
i feel similar getting out of uni this year, being 25 ... i feel like i am forced to become sth i never wanted to be, and maybe, cannot be. i regret not having had much job experience, just have these degrees (like, second one not earned yet lol, but actually, it doesn' mean much to me, doesn't feel like much to have this one already). i feel incapable, paralyzed to go on from here. at least i still enjoy being with my friends, i enjoy painting, i enjoy being in nature. these are the things that fulfil me. and i don't feel that the seven years of higher education taught me as much as my personal relationships taught me, and the spiritual seeking i have been doing. The inner work i was going through. I feel like my education was useless, in a way. but at the same time, i feel more full of life than when i exited high school, more content with myself. so i don't really know what i wanted to tell you with that. i can advise you to go travel and see the world once covid is less of a problem. get out there into the mess, get crushed and destroyed and build yourself up from the ruins. this is what i intend to do, too. and this is what has transformed me and made the colors much more vibrant. (edit: i don't think it doesn't matter as much what you study exactly as long as it feels in line with what you value and are interested in. the important thing is to just jump into life and get messy and never forget what you want, but at the same time be open to life's surprises. you never know. the best things come unexpected. and if you don't know yet what you want, you'll find out once you jumped. just start somewhere that feels vaguely correct. or do sth else entirely before you pick a course)
I'm sorry you feel this way. Ive been there and still deal with depression and being unmotivated. If you have a chance maybe travel before going to school. Even if it means just a road trip down to Mexico , up to nova scotia or just across the US. You don't have to make your mind up right now whatyu want your college major or career to be. You don't even have to go to college, you could go to trade school if you want. Take your time. ❤ especially if you have supportive family.
As a 1st year student in computer science I’m already experiencing the feeling of doing my work all the time, because I felt like im not doing enough. Thanks to Mayuko and her community I realised to enjoy the little moments in life and enjoy my work more than ever. I’m luckily now taking more care about my well-being and I’m doing a lot better now.
The message in this video really hit home. I am still part of this culture. Having a family to take care of, student debt to pay off (almost done thankfully), and trying to make it and survive in my industry.been there. My brain shuts down often and I often find myself not wanting to get up in the morning. Thank you for sharing your experience. Just hearing this lets me know that I am not alone in this.
Love these new types of videos. All these tech you tubers never talk about the emotional aspect of tech. I appreciate this as it reminds us to be human
I'm so glad I came across your channel some months back. Your content can be really sobering for someone getting in to this field and trying to overcome the mental and physical hurdles/stigmas attached to it. I appreciate you.
I agree, it's really important just to take time to be still, take in the moments, and enjoy life. I feel like working in the tech industry makes it especially easy to get caught up in the hustle culture since you're always looking towards the next big thing.
Mayuko, as a Vietnamese studying abroad in NYC, I understand the struggle of hustle culture & covert status rival with friends. You're very honest & we thank you for that. I assume you're not hustling that much anymore? Because you look genuinely very happy & excited about life! Tell you what, I decide to drop out of a prestigious Master of Public Policy program today to live life more, since I'm 26 and I start see through the detriments of hustle culture on people, it's like the secret 4am anxiety and crippling low self-esteem people often have, that nobody would really value them out of what they've managed to achieve this quarter. It's crazy, and I choose not to continue despite what people think or whether it not impress my parents or culture. We all deserve to exist! Yes! Thank you & I wish Mayuko a wonderful day, every day, waking up feelig excited about the day's endless possibilities, not just "hustling to stay on the hedonist treadmill"! Cheers!
I’m in college right now and I’m scared that if I don’t hustle, are there bad consequences? Some kids stay up without sleeping to study for tests, and I don’t want the same feeling when I work. I have many hobbies and I’m active 💭
It’s really important to develop healthy study habits. Continuously exhausting yourself will lead to burnout and depression. Your brain cannot function properly when overworked and undernourished. You’ll get better results if you take care of your body and spirit
Good sleep is one of the best gifts you can give yourself in school. Please please prioritize sleep and rest. In both college and grad school I never studied past 11pm because after then my brain just wouldn’t retain anything more, and I would also be tired the next day and not do as well. Hustling can often be counterproductive. Things will be okay. Take care of yourself!
Like others have commented, hustling will lead to burnout and depression eventually. I don't think it's a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when." Those same kids that are staying up all night ot study for a test are only going to crash and burn in a few years time and they'll have to learn how to take a more balanced approach to life. As for bad consequences if you don't hustle, maybe a smaller bank account if you consider that "bad." Then again, you might burnout if you hustle too hard and have to quit working for a while, so your bank account may not even be larger. Either way, money isn't everything. Quality of life and the quality of the relationships you form matters infinitely more in the long-term.
Work smarter, not just harder. When I study I make sure I put all my focus there at that time and waste no time procrastinating (for example cramming for exam but still replying to text messages or watch CZcams videos). I study, and when my brain is all heated up I take a rest. I slep, eat, drink, do other things.
@@wizzyone6789 sorry if the question sounds invasive, I'm just a grad student trying to not freak out about the future, but don't employers see many "holes" (many periods of work with periods of not working in between) as a red flag? I always heard you must avoid not working (excluding vacations and off days, of course) for more than a few weeks every several years to even have a chance on finding jobs, and that people who take a time off for whatever reason have a really hard time trying to get another job again....
I loved this video. “Hustle Culture” finally puts a label on what I’ve been feeling and experiencing the past 10 years. I’m a Building Information Modeler and have struggled with how the construction industry has changed. Expectations for working long hours to meet unrealistic deadlines all driven by this underlying culture that promotes self sacrifice. The more you give determines your value. Is it worth it? Great video.
This video was exactly what I needed to hear! I’ve been “hustling” for 2-3 years now. I just turned 26 and now I’m starting to feel that burnout/anxiety part. Love your videos btw!!
I’m not very old (still in college) but honestly I’ve found that finding a balance has made me the most fulfilled/happiest. I’m in engineering right now and planning to take 3 courses a semester. That’s perfectly fine with me, I don’t care about graduating early and I am able to work and find time for my family and social life. It’s been great so far!
I did the same thing when I was in college. I took my time and enjoyed it without stress and I am so happy I did it. We have many years to work but only few years in college.
Aww I know how you feel and it sucks! It's very difficult to break from associating our value with the work we are doing especially when you get on the hustling path... At some point you just loose sight of what actually made you do tech as a job in the first place (as you mention you focus on quantity not quality). I experience the same and I'm extremely grateful for every day when I manage to get excited about something technical or manage to spend more time digging deeper into a project instead of focusing on delivering next and next task as fast as I can... and just see the life and myself as more than just my work and the story points I'm producing! Thank you so much for this video Mayuko 🤗 ♥️
I love how real these videos are getting. Man I hate the hustle culture in New York so much, people are just their jobs at the end of the day and have no personal goals which is sad.
I love NY and I was obsessed with living and working there, but when I moved out of New York I realized how damaged my mental health became. I always found myself comparing myself to someone, something else. And of course, I wouldn't ever take the experiences I had in NY taken away from me because I learned from it but I'm still contemplating if I'm ready to go back to the workforce there.
@@erindeartist it’s always been crazy to me as a native New Yorker to see people from other states wanting to come here. New York is a great city but it isn’t practical to live here. The cost of living is high, the job market is competitive and the people who are moving here don’t contribute to the economy because they are all entrepreneurs/artist that pay little to no taxes and brag about their 1 bedroom for 3k a month. I’m glad you got to experience New York and use that to grow, but the hustle culture here makes no sense compared to other places like the mid west were you can earn 60k an have property and great great work life balance.
Thanks Mayuko for making this video, I needed it... I've been hustling since I got out of highschool, working 2 part-time jobs and being a caregiver for my grandmother with mild - severe dementia. I've come from a very poor background in a third world country, so poor that I have a 100% scholarship just based on my socioeconomic status. I've also taken my fair share of bad choices in life and for years husting became my only coping mechanism to deal with my situation, now I'm in my last year of IT engineering and earning 5x what I earned before with my 2 part-time jobs in a part-time Internship. And while I acknowledge that if I had given just a little less effort in my life I would not be in big tech today, I also fully know that I missed most of my 20's hustling to validate my worth through work and academics. Maybe it was what I needed to do at the time to get to where I wanted, but now I realized all that I missed out on and everything that I pushed aside to make room for what I thought necessary. Maybe my hustle won't end just yet, but I'll reassess my priorities and focus on happiness and wellbeing without feeling like a failure.
Shit this is gold info. Me being young makes it so easy to fall into "hustle culture" too hard. I should be much more careful with how I spend my energy 😤👏
This made me realize that hustle culture means something different for everyone. I'm 19 and most definitely push myself insanely hard but its never been for some grand plan or to better anyone's life outside my own immediate circle. I don't see it as something to do forever or as a purpose of life. I just don't mind being severely toxic and 100% anti social for a year or two so that I can enjoy life 1,000,000x better in the future. And the panic attacks are real. Wim Hof breathing gets the focus back tho
i had the same way of thinking when i got into uni at 18. pushed myself really hard and it was genuine motivation so i understand where you're coming from. I'm 22 now, just graduated and I've been trying to undo the damage stress has done to my body for over a year now. it messed me up physically and mentally so i urge you to learn from me and take it easy. it feels nice to achieve little goals but learn to give yourself breaks so you don't get burnout. just put your health first basically :)
@@cherry-zg9ln U have been heard. I have absolutely no plans of hustling that hard for 2-3 years. My main focus are the next 5 months. I'm trying to set up a couple things with my income and online brands in the mean time that'll allow me to simply maintain and scale for the rest of my college years. At least that's what's on the whiteboard. College ain't really a means of getting full time employment for me. More or less just gaining the skills to turn ideas into real income producing projects. Hopefully this comment'll age well
During the beginning of quarantine, I started to give in to hustle culture, but then I got panic attacks and really sick... So now I try to get a perfect balance of school and resting haha
Hi Mayuko - Thank you for sharing. There is a lot of toxicity when it comes to the 'hustle culture'. We all need to really be honest with ourselves about what serves us and where we do not need to sacrifice our mental, physical or spiritual well being to achieve what we want in life. :-)
I hustle and struggle last year during 2020 with my busniess last year so hard just because my ex finacee wanted me to earn more money. And just when i was starting to earn more money she cheated on me and left for a richer guy. It is honestly digusting and mentally draining, makes me doubt what i was working for? I broke down, was hospitalise, had depression and struggle to keep my young busniess afloat every single day. Such videos really helps me process my pain fortunately. All i am left with is resentment and hatred. My lesson? Dont hustle just because someone force you to. Find that balance yourself.
i totally relate to this!!! i was exposed to hustle culture in HS but didn’t really feelthe toxicity until college (2015-2018). I was severely depressed and anxious in college and i couldn’t pinpoint exactly what was so toxic. it wasn’t until covid and work remote hit (2020) that i finally realized i had internalized so much self hatred for not naturally adopting hustle culture the way my peers in college had. i felt less than and lazy and like a big loser for not having the same desire to land a 6fig salary job straight out of grad and work 24/7. i felt like a total loser hearing my friends talk about their promotions and work travel stories and hearing about their grind. only then was i able to start healing. we all have our own journeys and we are all dealt different cards. we all value different things and we should stay true to ourselves to find happiness. if pursing a career and grinding to climb the corp ladder brings my friend happiness, i shouldn’t assume it will do the same for me. i’m glad that i know that now and am taking the time to figure out what actually is important to me instead of doing what my peers are doing :-). anyways, thanks for posting and spreading awareness on topics like this :-)
Omg this is so relatable. Worked at a SF tech startup that I commuted 3hrs a day to and from for almost 2 years, working long hours until I burned out and quit. Still slightly hustling, but pursuing paths that align more with my mindset: become my own boss. That startup is literally about to IPO and I'm still happy I left to pursue news content as a contractor and freelancer. It's more fulfilling to be in charge. 😌
I echo your desire for thoughtfulness and intentionality. Hustle culture is embedded within the entrepreneurial mindset, which resonates with many Americans. I get that many people want to break out on their own and not get stuck in corporate jobs, but the worship of hustle culture is unhealthy. I spent the first 7 years of my career in inside sales, which is an entire hustle culture on its own. Many people try to be the fastest in getting qualified leads and closing deals, optimizing everything to minimize the time spent working on a transaction and maximizing volume. But that wasn't my style. I put diligent work in trying to understand my clients' needs and genuinely trying to help them out. I may have had fewer transactions, but I would still hit my sales volume quota because my clients were willing to spend more money when I built quality relationships with them. I was still more successful than many coworkers who were trying hustle. Hustling isn't the only way to success.
Love how you so thoughtfully navigated the concept of "hustle culture". For me, it's been difficult trying to live in this way as it, too, takes a toll on my mind and body. I NEED balance, and I appreciate you for putting the same thoughts and feelings I've had into words.
I've always needed some time to recover from hard work or study. For example, I chose not to study during weekends when I was in university. This applies even more now that I have a job in tech, for I need to establish a boundary between work and private life / hobbies.
Some wise words there. The problem with working in tech is that there is always more to learn, more to read, more to practise...before we know it, burnout hits. We are not robots and we need rest in order to be productive and healthy.
@@ayumisae6864 I'm glad you came up with this topic, Ayumi. I definitely agree with you as I faced the problem of learning new things right from the start. I spent the first week of my first job figuring out where I was and what I didn't know. Studying new programming languages/software libraries and use them practically right away works best for me, so I'm really into learning-on-the-job. If an employer wants me to acquire new notions, I'm the kind of person that asks for a learning course (I really don't feel like spending my free time during the weekends on something that reminds me of work). Rest is essential for a healthy life style, so don't ever feel guilty when you need it. As Mayuko says, it's ok not to be productive sometimes :)
@@leqok4878 Very true! Unfortunately often the employer is happy to fund a learning course but the reality is that most of it has to be done in employee's own time as there is just too much work involved. So it's the case of do I take the opportunity to learn and improve but sacrifice my own time outside of work, or turn it down which will look really bad and probably prevent me from getting any raises or promotions as will not be as skilled as my team mates/also will look suspicious to the business as to why I don't want to grow and complete the course if it's paid for. It's one of the dilemmas but overall I totally agree with you that we do need to take rest when it's needed! :)
@@ayumisae6864 You brought up lots of good points here, some of which I didn't think about to be honest. I will start a new job in a few weeks or a month and I will definitely keep in mind all of what you said. It seems foolish but just being aware that this is a common issue among workers in tech makes me feel less overwhelmed and gives me more strength to carry on. That's really nice for me to discuss about it with other people, that's why I particularly enjoyed watching this video!
@@leqok4878 Thank so much for the kind words and I wish you all the best in your new role. I also agree that videos like this one are so important and open up that conversation which is much needed!
i remember when i had a panic attack at college. literally cried my eyes out in the middle of the lecture, after that i realized that i hated the major i was doing & the people in it
Honestly mayuko i am so inspired by the kind of personality you have in tech. I've met alot of people and they rarely think the way you do. The more i watch your videos, the more i am convinced that you are the one person i need to speak to for insight into something i am working on that i really feel lost on. I am more than willing to compensate you for your time as i understand bills gotta get paid too and time is more valuable than gold these days. I also understand that what i will be asking you might be already answered by some of your videos but honestly i really genuinely believe you are the person to speak to on what i have to say (and i can elaborate further on it before we have a call. I've tried to approach lots of people in this industry but only to get ignored or judged so i really hope i can get some of your time. Thank you in advance mayuko!
I think as long as you are aware of balance between chasing after you want, to relaxing, to versus about hustling to the point you are collapsing that you will be ok. I definitely "hustled" to the point where I collapse, but now I keep a very strict bounded box of when I work, and when to study for a nxt goal, etc, while working in time for my own relaxation and happiness. I really think it is about balance :)
@@justinwlin I recently hustled to the point of anxiety + panic attack and this is just for my own personal project. I'm being more aware of my limits now though. Thanks for the encouragement
As a tech lead and software engineer in silicon valley for 23+ years, I can say that you don’t need to prescribe to the hustle culture. There is a diversity of many types of people with very different motivations. Having managed and mentored many people in different life stages in this profession, I found that there are unique perspectives and approaches to working in tech that some people would love and some would hate. Listening to more perspectives would help you decide if this is right for you or not. Having done this for so long, I love it and gotten used to the hustle. :-)
@@harshithnarahari4677 I think it depends on the company you work at. I'm more weary of the ones that constantly tries to push progress. But I do agree that balancing work and life is important.
You don't know how much I identify with this video. Currently, my life is going through a lot (work, college, money, sleep hrs... a complete mess) and I tried to explain how I'm feeling to my friends and family but they don't understand. They ask "so, why you don't take a break?" But I don't want to, my purpose of getting out of bed is getting everything done and make sure that I'm going to be one of the best doing so, but that's so fucked. This video helped me understand a little better why I'm feeling this way and that I have to take care more of the things that mean something to me and I feel good about it. You are the best Mayuko, keep it up! Saludos, desde Costa Rica !!!
Each generation tries to come up with something that will allow the next generation to not have it so hard, and in the process it complicates it instead.
I relate to this. I’ve been hustling with work for the past years to make content on the side of my tech work. I’m finally taking some time to slow down and enjoy life more, as well as re-assess. I definitely struggle with being overly interested in my video metrics! Love this video. Thanks for sharing 🖤
bro, I lost more hair during the past 3 years than my dad did for the past 30 years, I'm just 22 and I have the hairline of a 40-year-old with 3 kids hustle culture is a disease
I'm glad you made a video talking about this topic. Growing up and especially through college, we are taught via movies, TV, mentors, teachers, professors to work hard to be successful. But the success they talked about was purely professional and financial. There was nothing about working smart or even a different definition of success. I always felt like I wasn't living up to my potential if I didn't burn myself out at work. It took me over ten years of being a working man to finally come into my own about the definition of success. I was tired of letting society define it for me. I define a well balanced life as successful. There is so much more to life than one's work and how much money you make or how high you are up the corporate ladder.
More talks on topics like this please, Mayuko! I see you as a big sister giving advice on issues like this as I'm also a young asian-american women striving in tech/research culture. I really appreciate the vulnerability you showed. Keep up the good work :)!
Do you think this is something you realized now because you’re more mature or simply because you’re sitting on a comfortable amount of money that it doesn’t really matter? I don’t think anyone actually wants hustle culture.
Truth 👏 This is essential advice for entrepreneurs. So many give everything they have to their business without leaving time for other essential things. Whether you consider yourself part of "hustle culture" or not, success doesn't come through burnout 🔥🔥🔥
So many ppl tell me how they always stay up super late just working and it’s such a turnoff. And they’d look at me like I wasn’t doin enough by not staying up. Feel like taking things step by step’s a way better approach! This content is acc so wholesome! 🥺🥺
I've been following your channel since your DITL of a software engineer video and this is my FAVORITE video so far. Honestly, there needs to be more dialogue on this topic. 03:38 to 04:10 was exactly how I felt!! When I bought into hustle culture, it made me feel like I wasn't working hard enough, ever, especially when I saw my peers succeeding over me. Especially loved the comment on the qualitative metrics (the journey/experience) 😭
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Hi mayuko! I knew this when you left your job. Thanks for reminding.
If you need new ideas for your content you have to use brain. You can find it near your head.
Wow, great video! I wish I had been mature enough to realize all of this when I was your age a thousand years ago! :D
Ahaha. don't want to yell* but maybe just to tell not only the author but everyone that this is going to be green, like a garden, that's not growing in my physqe coz I don't have money. Ahaha, now. lol, it's a different me. Like feasting down lumber trees on freeze frame am I right mrs mayuko. Bdw, just painted my mental portrait here. Makes this one everybody won't forget on thier foreheads, ahaha. Don't hold back consider this one a contest but non violent. Go for it Your a Full Tiger :)
What humidifier are you using? Seems perfect for my room!!!
I'm a few months away from retirement. No job is worth the madness... and they won't care about you when you've gone. Take care of yourselves.
great advice, thank you
Love this comment, Jim! Usually people listen more to those who have been through it. I hope you keep spreading this awareness!
Enjoy your retirement. You've earned it
Happy retirement
I guess adventure awaits for you.
This is so real. I don’t wanna be consumed by my work, I just want to be able to do things I want and be happy.
Life is a harsh reality of hustling. You either choose to chase financial freedom by working hard or you work less strenuous jobs that aren't too good with retirement plans. You can of course be self employed which is usually what I would prefer.
But what if the only reason you want to be alive is because you want to change something in society? Then it feels like the definition of work changes into something that's difficult to articulate.
Samee. Im so glad to know that Im not the only one and this is okay.
Amen, me too.
@samsong samsong so how do I pay bills then? I think this is an easy thing to say but that isn't feasible. We need food, shelter, etc. If you have only that job for income you can't just quit and try something new because you will end up homeless.
Modern society preaches "hustle", but husting needs a lot of energy and stamina. Not everyone has the same high level of energy. This leads most of us to burn-out, depression, and loneliness. I for one always was a shy, quiet kid. I loved my time alone with books and movies. Being in the CS forced me to run faster than my ability and left me thinking I was a handicap in comparison to other extroverted, fast-paced students. Now I have come back to myself. I put my feet on the ground again and going with MY flow! Not society's.
this comment is my whole life
modern society doesnt preach hustle. It just appreciates it
I have a question: Can you survive in CS when you don't hustle? I'm not sure if CS is right for me, I just chose it, because it's interesting and I don't know what else to do. I feel kinda lost.
wow, reading your comment made me realize, you really have to not care what society thinks of you.
@@haifutter4166 In my experience, you do not have to necessarily hustle. Just keep moving. Keep learning and keep your eyes open. No matter how slow you move, you will get the reward for your work. I did get it and i saw many others get it as well! It doesn't matter if you do not get to the top in one job, you will get your reward in your next job. Just keep learning.
I hustle to live my best life, which includes plenty of sleep, water, exercise, time to play music and videogames and meaningful learning and work. I hustle everyday.
i love this!
That's my kind of hustle! Keep it up haha
Love this! 🙏🏻👌🏻
IMPOSTOR
Love it! :)
Linkedin plays a huge role in promoting hustle culture. Much like instagram promotes an unhealthy self-image for many, linkedin promotes unhealthy standards for peoples' relationship to their work.
This right here! I feel like Linkedin is the new way to flex. I can barely use it now. I mean they even added stories too
LinkedIn makes me cringe.
Can't agree more. My friends are starting to create linkedin account, put their achievements there and use it as a SOCIAL MEDIA to flex 😭😂 anyways i've just deactivated my account and i can continue my life peacefully without any feeling of insecurity.
I agree. Hustle culture is so glorified nowadays that some people think it should be expected from everyone.
Yup! Especially when you live in a place like NYC. Recently one of my friends moved to NYC...amazing person. But she's having a hard time because people find her "lazy" for just wanting to go on a simple walk daily instead of doing something more "productive."
its glorified a lot because ppl have big dreams but most don't hustle enough to get there. So they end up complaining about why they're not getting their dreams.
Yessss welcome to the no hustle life. Toxic productivity is truly a curse and I am so tired of everything making us feel like we need to be going at 110% all the time and that making money is the be all and end all. As someone who severely burnt out to the point long term, life changing disability - it’s not worth it. I used to work 5am-11pm, travelling all over the country. And now? I’m lucky if I get 1 hour a day out of bed sat up. Our lives are more precious than our achievements.
This is so true. I am so sorry your health has been affected. This culture needs to change as health is way more important than the job.
Very real - I can relate. I got hit with an undiagnosed chronic illness out of nowhere. Made me realize there's more to life than always getting another promotion, having another business, and always "getting ahead" in some shape or form. People have got to learn how to prioritize self-care more.
@@jjong0711 I couldn't agree more. I have also been neglecting my own health in this very context so it hits quite hard. Always working extra hours to get ahead on a project, always taking extra care to help someone else in the team out but as a result taking on way too much. Stressing about deadlines and thinking about work 24/7 due to the amount of tasks and projects outstanding. Worried about taking leave/taking time back as don't want to be behind with work. This is certainly no way to live but I feel like its the norm in big companies and it really has to change. My health has also declined significantly in the last months and I am pretty sure work pressures played a key part in that. Our company has recently made it clear that meetings should not be booked in people's calendars over the lunch hour as the shocking reality has been that most people just don't even get a chance to have a proper break in the day. I fully agree that it's people's responsibility to prioritise their health and wellbeing but the businesses need to stop pushing employees so hard as there is always another urgent project/task/meeting. I think managers overall have a big role to play here.
@@ayumisae6864 I agree your work culture & environment will play a huge role in all of this. Take care of yourself and I hope things get better for you.
Totally agree! I used to be 200% work kind of guy because I used to work in film commercial industry which requires a lot of overtime work. Then out of no where I got blinded 3 times and I have to change jobs because of the recovery periods. All these incidents leads me to be more self aware and always care about my health first. Now I’m living with one eye but able to organize time better and care about love ones more. :)
worst is when you hustle for a shit job but at the same time, you have to hustle to make ends meet...
Yep. Capitalism drives this hustle culture, making it a necessity for many.
414k now, she's doing it!
THIS. There is something to be said about people who choose to work as though they have no money and people who actually do work their asses off because they have no money. Some hustle as some sort of means of self worth while others hustle because they'd be homeless if they didn't. For those of you who can afford to take time off for yourselves, DO IT because there are too many of us out there who don't have that choice.
@@silenthunder19 So true. I am blessed enough to have a good amount in savings at 24yrs. It has been a blessing to be able to take time off without worrying about if I can pay my rent/buy food/just relax if I take a break from working. I never want to lose that freedom!
Being alive is already a miracle. Our purpose is to live, and experience each moment so deeply.
Exactly! I like the way Carl Sagan said it: "we are a way for the universe to know itself."
Depends how you look life someone suffering from abuse hunger illness will not call life a miracle and neither do i it fluctuates.
@@cosmiccrush22 It can be excruciating, devastating, and sad, but everything has its opposite in life; life can also be exciting, breathtaking, and full of joy.
I totally agree. I mean, what's the point of working so tirelessly day and night if you don't get to enjoy the fruits of your hard work or enjoy life itself?
Nope, our purpose is to die
“Rise and Grind”
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Dude, also, hi!!! Hope you’re doing well!!
i'm done with Hustle and Tech. I'm looking into my passion of owing a farm.
Probably going to need to hustle doing both things, just in different ways
You should intern at a farm to see if that lifestyle is going to work foryou
SAME OMG
Happy for you
@@sytran666 where can I find a farming fellowship and get a farming mentor?
My friend left his tech job to teach at a tech boot camp for inner city kids who can't afford to go to college. He laments about being "poor af" now, BUT I haven't seen him that happy in years
Eh, I've did the poor af thing. That gets old if you're having trouble making ends meet. Also, if an emergency happens, you're screwed. You need to strike a balance.
im 24 and i also work in tech. I have been going back and forth to the doctors for different health issues for the past year. This past months, I have developed anxiety attacks. Last week, I was told to prioritize another task when I have something more important to do. But I cant say no. So I worked without breaks. While shaking and crying from time to time. And so I realized, i am getting paid well but its not worth it if my health is being compromised. They can replace me so fast if i quit. But i cannot replace my good health and time if i continue.
I'm an undergraduate i want to ask you do you love your work?
Wishing you all the best!
Yup. I'm currently on a one year self-break after a hectic year of managing as a tech-lead at a startup. Make good money but ended up visiting the hospital due to lack of sleep and insomnia.
Exactly girl this happened to me
It was pretty early on I realized no company in the world gives a flying fuck about any of its employees. You could work for a company for 30 years and do everything asked of you and they would still drop you without a second thought if they wanted. Why be that loyal and work that hard for an entity that doesn't care about you?
Don't harm yourself over something as ultimately insignificant as a job.
Mayuko has 401k subscribers, that's definitely life telling you to start a 401k RIGHT NOW
What's a 401k?
There's better options for your money. Only contribute enough to get the full company match. See an investment pro.
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@@darellarocho5729 it's a place where you deposit pre-tax dollars so others can gamble with it on the stock market. Usually on Blue Chip stocks. Example. If you invested $1000k in Google ten years ago that money would now be $4000k. Now you could forgo the risk and just save $40 bucks per month and you would actually have $4,800 after 10 years. The only real benefit is if your employer contributes to your 401K
@@NuEnque 40 bucks a month thats not that much, shouldn't everyone has one?
"Influencers" and other people in media pretty much only show themselves to us when they are being productive, so it's always nice to think about the other side. Makes me curious to hear Hank Green's take on hustle culture and his own image as an unstoppable idea/business machine.
^big same. The feeling I get from Hank and John that feels unique to their content is that it seems like their content is more... fun? Like, I love that they have their curiosity lead them to places that might not be traditionally be seen as "productive" or a "good business decision", but they do it because they want to (and can). I stan that vibe so hard.
Many of my friends are so highly influenced by social media. It truly affects their mental health...EVEN though they know that what most people put for the public is positive/traveling/ always being productive and that's obviously not 100% what life is like.
Im so glad that the narative is turning back to wellbeing vs the toxic hustle culture we've been fed. We work to live, not live to work 💕🌟
I've always found the whole "hustle" branding to be really horrible and disingenuous. Real progress takes time, and burning yourself out to help other people doesn't help anything.
omg sameeee! I hate hustle culture, it’s so toxic and ends in burnout.
During university I was under-slept and relied on coffee to get through. I was starting to get depressed but wasn’t sure why. My first job as a programmer meant I had to get up earlier to commute everyday so I was even more exhausted. This increase in my depression plus a job which required it’s pound of flesh nearly sent me over the edge (literally). I am so glad that period of my life is over, while I still work in IT in a job I'm so happy with. Rest, happiness and self compassion is most important to me now
good for you John! may I know what job you are in right now?
@@ic3beartv650 I'm working as a Support Engineer for a big player in cloud. I still have to meet their set expectations to work there, but it is very reasonable and balanced. Plus I get to do a lot of coaching and mentoring
Such hipocrisy. Stop misleading. You landed a job as a programmer precisely because you worked hard in University. Now you advice others to do the opposite. Lol
@@equbalfatmi860 If I could do it again, I would still work hard a university. Though I would do things very differently. Such as made sure I got 8 hours sleep minimum, drank less coffee, and listened to my body for burn-out. I still work hard in my job now, but if my company started setting unrealistic expectations on work output I would resign. No job is worth killing yourself for!
For me living in a developing country, I feel like there's no way out than to hustle.
Work towards being self employed, and work on your own time.
Correct
This is a privilege we can afford after reaching a certain point
Until then some people will have to get trampled on
Maybe don't try to get out
@@FourThreeSeven check your privilege, I'm guessing you're not from a developing country?
@@FourThreeSeven Well, sometimes being one with myself regardless of the location, does really help!
Have definitely felt that way in the last few years working in tech right after graduating. It's also often driven by seeing my peers "succeeding" or doing so much with their time. I tried to emulate that culture, but in the end, I feel so stressed and have had more anxiety than I could ever have. Reflecting on these events, I have come to realize that I don't need to hustle and bustle or "do more now" just to make an impact in the world. Yes, we should work towards a goal. Yes, we should value our time. Yes, we should use our skills to make the world a better place. But that doesn't mean we can't take it in pace. That doesn't mean we can't walk and slowly leave our mark. Just because we aren't doing "great" things or "many" things at the moment, does not mean we won't. Every person's journey is different. Some people make impacts in later stages in life, some do it when they're young. That is to say, we should value our own journey and not be pressured to "go with the flow". We each have our own river to follow. Thank you for posting this video. It makes me feel better to know that I am not alone in feeling this way about the "hustle" culture.
"We each have our own river to follow". I love this.
Absolutely love your comment. I will come back to this everytime I am comparing myself to my friends and feel small for not earning as much as them when I damn well know that I like doing things at my own pace.
@@rubysekhon475 awww, I'm glad ❤️💕 let's grow at our own pace! Have a beautiful day 🌺
I agree with everything you just said, besides the leaving your mark part, why do have to leave a mark? We always put so much pressure on ourselves to be remembered or something, when people eventually forget anyway, we all have a hand in the changing of times with our contributions to the economy and society, just live "your" best life, have fun, do everything you want, work to live dont live to work.
She’s the best! Such an honest person. We need more people like her in tech haha.
As someone who worked as a teacher, this hits HARD. Especially the tendency to glorify the bad work-life balance. Plus, there's the added guilt and bullying you face if you try to put up boundaries.
The toxic culture in education is so diabolical…I left after a decade-never again.
I only "hustle" when working on my own projects. If im working for a paycheck from someone else your not getting more than 40 hours a week. Fire me I don't give a fuck. Did that 7 day a week shit before, not worth it.
Yazzzzzz! I love how GUTTAH this comment is! Lol
Amen. I almost worked myself to death for a company and they didn't even have the courtesy to fire me in person. The new person just showed up. It turns out that they were firing everybody to hire minimum wage people. SMDH.
What u do plz tell us..so that we can also follow 40hr week
What exactly do you do for work?
@@latatiwari6172 for me it's THREE 14 hour shifts (3 days) and then the rest of the 4 days I pursue what interests me. Right now it's Programming (to make video games in the future for fun), and another hobby/passion/hustle is Stock Trading (this is to make a few extra cash on the side!)
My wife and I were just asking each other this evening what a perfect day would look like. I wrote down everything we said on my whiteboard and it was surprising how pretty much all of it was really doable. Like every day doable. Good food, good coffee, laughter, the woods, hiking, being near water, time with family, good music, etc. We realized there's no reason to not try and hit as many of those targets as possible every single day, even if we just get a single one in. This video really resonated with that for me - pursuing the quality in life.
I really appreciate your channel and the content you make. As someone of a similar age in the same industry, it's been really rewarding to watch your journey and I've learned a lot from it. Thank you for being so honest and generous with your story and your growth, it has and continues to help me navigate my own.
Wow, thank you for sharing this. I love that you and your wife did that, that’s a great way to reground and readjust. Maybe I’ll try that out soon too. Thank you 🥰
That's a really good exercise, thanks so much for sharing!
I used to want to fit into hustle culture so badly! I’d get such bad anxiety because I couldn’t get myself to pick up side hustles, do well in school, and have a full time job. Which is completely insane! It’s been tough, but luckily my partner has helped me so much to understand that what I am doing is enough, and that if the things that I do decide to work on make me happy, then those are the things that I should be doing ❤️
I was so unhealthy after college and I hustled hard for low-paying art gigs just to make ends meet. Eventually I made it out ok, but I really should have developed healthier habits at the time, because my body and mind was a mess. Get your sleep! Eat a vegetable! Spend time with friends. Go for walks.
"Do I feel like I did good work today that moves me to the future that I want?" That's such a fantastic way to look at it.
Self care should always be a part of the “hustle” not just work.
The sad thing is, not many people know what self care is. They may ONLY think of self care as painting their nails or putting on a face mask. Although that IS part of self care, so is closing your laptop early once in a while. People underestimate the smallest things like: taking a 5 minute break and going on a walk just to get some sun. Or calling an old friend that used to make you laugh so hard.
I totally agree! We are called human "beings" for a reason and we have worth in just existing. Self-worth is a concept not discussed enough. So thank you for sharing, I love your content! ❤️
I don’t like feeling like I have to be working around the clock just to “make it”. Great video!
Mh hm! I used to think like that when I was younger...just because all of my role models were always working, always busy. But the older I get, the more tired I am. The more I appreciate the smallest things in life.
I’ve never heard of a cs person that isn’t into hustling. Now I feel less alone.
Im the same! Life is too short to live only for work.
I feel that hustle culture is particularly strong in US. When I lived in Europe or some part of Asia for a while, somehow I could feel more relaxed.
I got hired for a big corp, nice salary and strict abt no overtime, and everyone is nice, learn new things, work, and go the fuck home to their families. I'm very thankful!! I worked that hustle life in a startup, and the 80/100 hr weeks was killing me on the inside
@@DMCpawn If you don’t mind me asking, what big corp do you work for?
@@samwalkins1897 a little uncomfortable saying the exact company, but it's the software dept of a large bank!
overworking is the norm in this industry, example, the agile method continuously measures how much you can get done in a sprint and always pushes for maximum productivity
So true 🤢 it can really drive up anxiety and stress levels.
Worst, some companies don't respect the sprint and force you to add more items in the middle of the sprint because it is "urgent".
@@arvinsim Yes! also suddenly decide 'actually we don't want this feature/it won't work for us'. They don't understand how much work and thought goes into planning an implementation.
Agile is communism. So of course it doesn't work.
@@mynameisnotyours that comment makes zero sense
balance & boundaries are SO important - but it's so easy to believe opposing messages from society/culture (which often say that those things are harmful/signs of laziness). thank you for this message! 💛
The only hustling I do is when I'm hungry and walking fast to the kitchen pantry.
OMG, I also got panic attacks at my first coding job. It was because I hated being in the office. I work remotely now and it's sooo much better. I still hustle though, but try to do it more smartly without sacrificing my health.
I'm still in my last semester for Grade 12 and I already feel overwhelmed by how the world wants me to be. I don't want to be a robot or a slave for one man to become a billionaire.
I'm losing passion on all the things I used to love doing. Now I just want to rest all the time. I'm so tired and I don't know what course I'll take in college. I don't know any job/career that I would love to do.
Before, the only thing I want to do is to play video games. Now, I can't even last more than 5-10 minutes playing a game. I'm so lost. I'm constantly looking for things that will potentially be fun for me, and so far, I haven't found any. Good thing I have a loving mother, aunt, and a girlfriend (although my girlfriend's experiencing way worse problems than me like being mentally unstable and shit).
I just make myself believe that life will be better and this feeling of loneliness and emptiness will eventually pass.
i feel similar getting out of uni this year, being 25 ... i feel like i am forced to become sth i never wanted to be, and maybe, cannot be. i regret not having had much job experience, just have these degrees (like, second one not earned yet lol, but actually, it doesn' mean much to me, doesn't feel like much to have this one already). i feel incapable, paralyzed to go on from here. at least i still enjoy being with my friends, i enjoy painting, i enjoy being in nature. these are the things that fulfil me. and i don't feel that the seven years of higher education taught me as much as my personal relationships taught me, and the spiritual seeking i have been doing. The inner work i was going through. I feel like my education was useless, in a way. but at the same time, i feel more full of life than when i exited high school, more content with myself. so i don't really know what i wanted to tell you with that. i can advise you to go travel and see the world once covid is less of a problem. get out there into the mess, get crushed and destroyed and build yourself up from the ruins. this is what i intend to do, too. and this is what has transformed me and made the colors much more vibrant.
(edit: i don't think it doesn't matter as much what you study exactly as long as it feels in line with what you value and are interested in. the important thing is to just jump into life and get messy and never forget what you want, but at the same time be open to life's surprises. you never know. the best things come unexpected. and if you don't know yet what you want, you'll find out once you jumped. just start somewhere that feels vaguely correct. or do sth else entirely before you pick a course)
I'm sorry you feel this way. Ive been there and still deal with depression and being unmotivated. If you have a chance maybe travel before going to school. Even if it means just a road trip down to Mexico , up to nova scotia or just across the US. You don't have to make your mind up right now whatyu want your college major or career to be. You don't even have to go to college, you could go to trade school if you want. Take your time. ❤ especially if you have supportive family.
Hey, are you from South Africa?
@@charmainephasoana6850 Nah, why?
@@CainSuzuko I was just asking, sorry
Like when my coworkers say on monday morning... ‘I coded this on the weeked...’ i am like... I watched Netflix and drank wine🤣🤣
As a 1st year student in computer science I’m already experiencing the feeling of doing my work all the time, because I felt like im not doing enough. Thanks to Mayuko and her community I realised to enjoy the little moments in life and enjoy my work more than ever.
I’m luckily now taking more care about my well-being and I’m doing a lot better now.
I can hustle for specific goal for a finite amount of time. But hustling all the time causes mental and physical health problems.
The message in this video really hit home. I am still part of this culture. Having a family to take care of, student debt to pay off (almost done thankfully), and trying to make it and survive in my industry.been there. My brain shuts down often and I often find myself not wanting to get up in the morning. Thank you for sharing your experience. Just hearing this lets me know that I am not alone in this.
I was being unproductive and cursing myself for that but then i came across your video and gosh i feel so much better.
Love these new types of videos. All these tech you tubers never talk about the emotional aspect of tech. I appreciate this as it reminds us to be human
I'm so glad I came across your channel some months back. Your content can be really sobering for someone getting in to this field and trying to overcome the mental and physical hurdles/stigmas attached to it. I appreciate you.
appreciate you for being here!
I agree, it's really important just to take time to be still, take in the moments, and enjoy life. I feel like working in the tech industry makes it especially easy to get caught up in the hustle culture since you're always looking towards the next big thing.
Mayuko, as a Vietnamese studying abroad in NYC, I understand the struggle of hustle culture & covert status rival with friends. You're very honest & we thank you for that. I assume you're not hustling that much anymore? Because you look genuinely very happy & excited about life! Tell you what, I decide to drop out of a prestigious Master of Public Policy program today to live life more, since I'm 26 and I start see through the detriments of hustle culture on people, it's like the secret 4am anxiety and crippling low self-esteem people often have, that nobody would really value them out of what they've managed to achieve this quarter. It's crazy, and I choose not to continue despite what people think or whether it not impress my parents or culture. We all deserve to exist! Yes! Thank you & I wish Mayuko a wonderful day, every day, waking up feelig excited about the day's endless possibilities, not just "hustling to stay on the hedonist treadmill"! Cheers!
I’m in college right now and I’m scared that if I don’t hustle, are there bad consequences? Some kids stay up without sleeping to study for tests, and I don’t want the same feeling when I work. I have many hobbies and I’m active 💭
It’s really important to develop healthy study habits. Continuously exhausting yourself will lead to burnout and depression. Your brain cannot function properly when overworked and undernourished. You’ll get better results if you take care of your body and spirit
Good sleep is one of the best gifts you can give yourself in school. Please please prioritize sleep and rest. In both college and grad school I never studied past 11pm because after then my brain just wouldn’t retain anything more, and I would also be tired the next day and not do as well. Hustling can often be counterproductive. Things will be okay. Take care of yourself!
Like others have commented, hustling will lead to burnout and depression eventually. I don't think it's a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when." Those same kids that are staying up all night ot study for a test are only going to crash and burn in a few years time and they'll have to learn how to take a more balanced approach to life.
As for bad consequences if you don't hustle, maybe a smaller bank account if you consider that "bad." Then again, you might burnout if you hustle too hard and have to quit working for a while, so your bank account may not even be larger. Either way, money isn't everything. Quality of life and the quality of the relationships you form matters infinitely more in the long-term.
Work smarter, not just harder. When I study I make sure I put all my focus there at that time and waste no time procrastinating (for example cramming for exam but still replying to text messages or watch CZcams videos). I study, and when my brain is all heated up I take a rest. I slep, eat, drink, do other things.
I never had a panic attack in my life until I started working in tech. I have no escape though... I'm happy you were able to escape it.
Don't stay in a job which is wasting you. I did this and it nearly killed me. Plus they will replace you in a week!
@@jworne79 its been every job in tech I have had so far. I'm 6 years in and have ages about 12 years I swear to god.
It could be the industry itself or something within you. In anyway, I am not sure when, but I promise you that you will find an escape. Been there.
If you can, work for a while, quit for some months, recharge and get another job. Works for me.
@@wizzyone6789 sorry if the question sounds invasive, I'm just a grad student trying to not freak out about the future, but don't employers see many "holes" (many periods of work with periods of not working in between) as a red flag? I always heard you must avoid not working (excluding vacations and off days, of course) for more than a few weeks every several years to even have a chance on finding jobs, and that people who take a time off for whatever reason have a really hard time trying to get another job again....
I loved this video. “Hustle Culture” finally puts a label on what I’ve been feeling and experiencing the past 10 years. I’m a Building Information Modeler and have struggled with how the construction industry has changed. Expectations for working long hours to meet unrealistic deadlines all driven by this underlying culture that promotes self sacrifice. The more you give determines your value. Is it worth it? Great video.
This kind of self-awareness and conscious choice to choose “quality over quantity” is so wonderful to see.
I agree 1000% that living a life that makes you feel happy and gets you closer to the life you want is what matters.
Its so nice to hear someone say that its ok not to be productive all the time and it can get super toxic
As Martin Fowler said, "Is Wordsworth better than Shakespeare because his poetry had more words?"
More engineers need to hear this!! Thank you for talking about this. ✨💯
I love the way you don't pretend like everything's fine. I relate so much to every single word in this video. Thank you for that ♥
This video was exactly what I needed to hear! I’ve been “hustling” for 2-3 years now. I just turned 26 and now I’m starting to feel that burnout/anxiety part.
Love your videos btw!!
Really needed to hear this! I decided to take it slow this year because I've been burnt out and depressed pre-covid and I'm ✨glowing! ✨
I never got on the band wagon, as long as I have enough to live and some savings. That's all I need to be happy.
I don't need the rat race.
👍👍👍👍
I’m not very old (still in college) but honestly I’ve found that finding a balance has made me the most fulfilled/happiest. I’m in engineering right now and planning to take 3 courses a semester. That’s perfectly fine with me, I don’t care about graduating early and I am able to work and find time for my family and social life. It’s been great so far!
I did the same thing when I was in college. I took my time and enjoyed it without stress and I am so happy I did it. We have many years to work but only few years in college.
Aww I know how you feel and it sucks! It's very difficult to break from associating our value with the work we are doing especially when you get on the hustling path... At some point you just loose sight of what actually made you do tech as a job in the first place (as you mention you focus on quantity not quality). I experience the same and I'm extremely grateful for every day when I manage to get excited about something technical or manage to spend more time digging deeper into a project instead of focusing on delivering next and next task as fast as I can... and just see the life and myself as more than just my work and the story points I'm producing! Thank you so much for this video Mayuko 🤗 ♥️
"You are more than your work" That's brilliant!
I love how real these videos are getting. Man I hate the hustle culture in New York so much, people are just their jobs at the end of the day and have no personal goals which is sad.
that feels like it can get really toxic :/
I love NY and I was obsessed with living and working there, but when I moved out of New York I realized how damaged my mental health became. I always found myself comparing myself to someone, something else. And of course, I wouldn't ever take the experiences I had in NY taken away from me because I learned from it but I'm still contemplating if I'm ready to go back to the workforce there.
@@erindeartist it’s always been crazy to me as a native New Yorker to see people from other states wanting to come here. New York is a great city but it isn’t practical to live here. The cost of living is high, the job market is competitive and the people who are moving here don’t contribute to the economy because they are all entrepreneurs/artist that pay little to no taxes and brag about their 1 bedroom for 3k a month. I’m glad you got to experience New York and use that to grow, but the hustle culture here makes no sense compared to other places like the mid west were you can earn 60k an have property and great great work life balance.
@@Aligatorxx3 it’s mentally draining. You always feel like you have to do better than someone
@@bryanmcb19 that drains me just by imagining it lol
In conclusion I will live with my parents to save aggressively so that I can retire early and do whatever I want
I’ve worked in tech startups for 8 years and I totally feel this way now.
Thanks Mayuko for making this video, I needed it... I've been hustling since I got out of highschool, working 2 part-time jobs and being a caregiver for my grandmother with mild - severe dementia. I've come from a very poor background in a third world country, so poor that I have a 100% scholarship just based on my socioeconomic status. I've also taken my fair share of bad choices in life and for years husting became my only coping mechanism to deal with my situation, now I'm in my last year of IT engineering and earning 5x what I earned before with my 2 part-time jobs in a part-time Internship.
And while I acknowledge that if I had given just a little less effort in my life I would not be in big tech today, I also fully know that I missed most of my 20's hustling to validate my worth through work and academics. Maybe it was what I needed to do at the time to get to where I wanted, but now I realized all that I missed out on and everything that I pushed aside to make room for what I thought necessary.
Maybe my hustle won't end just yet, but I'll reassess my priorities and focus on happiness and wellbeing without feeling like a failure.
Shit this is gold info. Me being young makes it so easy to fall into "hustle culture" too hard. I should be much more careful with how I spend my energy 😤👏
A moment of peace, when we realize what moves us, and doesn't. Having the self-awareness is key. Thank you for sharing your journey, mayuko.
Thank you for reminding me that “did i do work that brings me to a better future” is A WAY BETTER narrative framing device than “am i rich yet?”
This made me realize that hustle culture means something different for everyone. I'm 19 and most definitely push myself insanely hard but its never been for some grand plan or to better anyone's life outside my own immediate circle. I don't see it as something to do forever or as a purpose of life. I just don't mind being severely toxic and 100% anti social for a year or two so that I can enjoy life 1,000,000x better in the future.
And the panic attacks are real. Wim Hof breathing gets the focus back tho
i had the same way of thinking when i got into uni at 18. pushed myself really hard and it was genuine motivation so i understand where you're coming from. I'm 22 now, just graduated and I've been trying to undo the damage stress has done to my body for over a year now. it messed me up physically and mentally so i urge you to learn from me and take it easy. it feels nice to achieve little goals but learn to give yourself breaks so you don't get burnout. just put your health first basically :)
@@cherry-zg9ln U have been heard. I have absolutely no plans of hustling that hard for 2-3 years. My main focus are the next 5 months. I'm trying to set up a couple things with my income and online brands in the mean time that'll allow me to simply maintain and scale for the rest of my college years. At least that's what's on the whiteboard. College ain't really a means of getting full time employment for me. More or less just gaining the skills to turn ideas into real income producing projects. Hopefully this comment'll age well
@@7FigSaykho I’m glad to hear that. I wish you all the best
During the beginning of quarantine, I started to give in to hustle culture, but then I got panic attacks and really sick... So now I try to get a perfect balance of school and resting haha
This is so relatable, we need more such videos. Thank you, for speaking on such topics.
Hi Mayuko - Thank you for sharing. There is a lot of toxicity when it comes to the 'hustle culture'. We all need to really be honest with ourselves about what serves us and where we do not need to sacrifice our mental, physical or spiritual well being to achieve what we want in life. :-)
Many regrets taking 5 CS classes. Thanks for posting your thoughts, it's like therapy and guidance.
The realest one 👏
I hustle and struggle last year during 2020 with my busniess last year so hard just because my ex finacee wanted me to earn more money. And just when i was starting to earn more money she cheated on me and left for a richer guy. It is honestly digusting and mentally draining, makes me doubt what i was working for? I broke down, was hospitalise, had depression and struggle to keep my young busniess afloat every single day. Such videos really helps me process my pain fortunately.
All i am left with is resentment and hatred. My lesson? Dont hustle just because someone force you to. Find that balance yourself.
The relaxing music helps this to feel like a chill talk with a friend
i totally relate to this!!! i was exposed to hustle culture in HS but didn’t really feelthe toxicity until college (2015-2018). I was severely depressed and anxious in college and i couldn’t pinpoint exactly what was so toxic. it wasn’t until covid and work remote hit (2020) that i finally realized i had internalized so much self hatred for not naturally adopting hustle culture the way my peers in college had. i felt less than and lazy and like a big loser for not having the same desire to land a 6fig salary job straight out of grad and work 24/7. i felt like a total loser hearing my friends talk about their promotions and work travel stories and hearing about their grind. only then was i able to start healing. we all have our own journeys and we are all dealt different cards. we all value different things and we should stay true to ourselves to find happiness. if pursing a career and grinding to climb the corp ladder brings my friend happiness, i shouldn’t assume it will do the same for me. i’m glad that i know that now and am taking the time to figure out what actually is important to me instead of doing what my peers are doing :-). anyways, thanks for posting and spreading awareness on topics like this :-)
Ok, this video is a special one. I'm going to keep it in a special playlist
Omg this is so relatable. Worked at a SF tech startup that I commuted 3hrs a day to and from for almost 2 years, working long hours until I burned out and quit. Still slightly hustling, but pursuing paths that align more with my mindset: become my own boss. That startup is literally about to IPO and I'm still happy I left to pursue news content as a contractor and freelancer. It's more fulfilling to be in charge. 😌
I echo your desire for thoughtfulness and intentionality. Hustle culture is embedded within the entrepreneurial mindset, which resonates with many Americans. I get that many people want to break out on their own and not get stuck in corporate jobs, but the worship of hustle culture is unhealthy. I spent the first 7 years of my career in inside sales, which is an entire hustle culture on its own. Many people try to be the fastest in getting qualified leads and closing deals, optimizing everything to minimize the time spent working on a transaction and maximizing volume. But that wasn't my style. I put diligent work in trying to understand my clients' needs and genuinely trying to help them out. I may have had fewer transactions, but I would still hit my sales volume quota because my clients were willing to spend more money when I built quality relationships with them. I was still more successful than many coworkers who were trying hustle. Hustling isn't the only way to success.
Love how you so thoughtfully navigated the concept of "hustle culture". For me, it's been difficult trying to live in this way as it, too, takes a toll on my mind and body. I NEED balance, and I appreciate you for putting the same thoughts and feelings I've had into words.
I've always needed some time to recover from hard work or study. For example, I chose not to study during weekends when I was in university. This applies even more now that I have a job in tech, for I need to establish a boundary between work and private life / hobbies.
Some wise words there. The problem with working in tech is that there is always more to learn, more to read, more to practise...before we know it, burnout hits. We are not robots and we need rest in order to be productive and healthy.
@@ayumisae6864 I'm glad you came up with this topic, Ayumi. I definitely agree with you as I faced the problem of learning new things right from the start. I spent the first week of my first job figuring out where I was and what I didn't know. Studying new programming languages/software libraries and use them practically right away works best for me, so I'm really into learning-on-the-job. If an employer wants me to acquire new notions, I'm the kind of person that asks for a learning course (I really don't feel like spending my free time during the weekends on something that reminds me of work).
Rest is essential for a healthy life style, so don't ever feel guilty when you need it. As Mayuko says, it's ok not to be productive sometimes :)
@@leqok4878 Very true! Unfortunately often the employer is happy to fund a learning course but the reality is that most of it has to be done in employee's own time as there is just too much work involved. So it's the case of do I take the opportunity to learn and improve but sacrifice my own time outside of work, or turn it down which will look really bad and probably prevent me from getting any raises or promotions as will not be as skilled as my team mates/also will look suspicious to the business as to why I don't want to grow and complete the course if it's paid for. It's one of the dilemmas but overall I totally agree with you that we do need to take rest when it's needed! :)
@@ayumisae6864 You brought up lots of good points here, some of which I didn't think about to be honest. I will start a new job in a few weeks or a month and I will definitely keep in mind all of what you said. It seems foolish but just being aware that this is a common issue among workers in tech makes me feel less overwhelmed and gives me more strength to carry on. That's really nice for me to discuss about it with other people, that's why I particularly enjoyed watching this video!
@@leqok4878 Thank so much for the kind words and I wish you all the best in your new role. I also agree that videos like this one are so important and open up that conversation which is much needed!
i remember when i had a panic attack at college. literally cried my eyes out in the middle of the lecture, after that i realized that i hated the major i was doing & the people in it
i havent even watched the video but the title alone puts what ive been trying to express my whole life in a simple sentence
Honestly mayuko i am so inspired by the kind of personality you have in tech. I've met alot of people and they rarely think the way you do.
The more i watch your videos, the more i am convinced that you are the one person i need to speak to for insight into something i am working on that i really feel lost on.
I am more than willing to compensate you for your time as i understand bills gotta get paid too and time is more valuable than gold these days.
I also understand that what i will be asking you might be already answered by some of your videos but honestly i really genuinely believe you are the person to speak to on what i have to say (and i can elaborate further on it before we have a call. I've tried to approach lots of people in this industry but only to get ignored or judged so i really hope i can get some of your time. Thank you in advance mayuko!
I'm on the fence about becoming a software engineer because of this exact reason
I think as long as you are aware of balance between chasing after you want, to relaxing, to versus about hustling to the point you are collapsing that you will be ok. I definitely "hustled" to the point where I collapse, but now I keep a very strict bounded box of when I work, and when to study for a nxt goal, etc, while working in time for my own relaxation and happiness. I really think it is about balance :)
@@justinwlin I recently hustled to the point of anxiety + panic attack and this is just for my own personal project. I'm being more aware of my limits now though. Thanks for the encouragement
@@melon610 totally understand
As a tech lead and software engineer in silicon valley for 23+ years, I can say that you don’t need to prescribe to the hustle culture. There is a diversity of many types of people with very different motivations. Having managed and mentored many people in different life stages in this profession, I found that there are unique perspectives and approaches to working in tech that some people would love and some would hate. Listening to more perspectives would help you decide if this is right for you or not. Having done this for so long, I love it and gotten used to the hustle. :-)
@@harshithnarahari4677 I think it depends on the company you work at. I'm more weary of the ones that constantly tries to push progress. But I do agree that balancing work and life is important.
You don't know how much I identify with this video. Currently, my life is going through a lot (work, college, money, sleep hrs... a complete mess) and I tried to explain how I'm feeling to my friends and family but they don't understand. They ask "so, why you don't take a break?" But I don't want to, my purpose of getting out of bed is getting everything done and make sure that I'm going to be one of the best doing so, but that's so fucked. This video helped me understand a little better why I'm feeling this way and that I have to take care more of the things that mean something to me and I feel good about it. You are the best Mayuko, keep it up! Saludos, desde Costa Rica !!!
Each generation tries to come up with something that will allow the next generation to not have it so hard, and in the process it complicates it instead.
With the exception of the Boomers. They pulled the ladder up behind them on purpose.
I relate to this. I’ve been hustling with work for the past years to make content on the side of my tech work. I’m finally taking some time to slow down and enjoy life more, as well as re-assess. I definitely struggle with being overly interested in my video metrics!
Love this video. Thanks for sharing 🖤
I'm going to lose all my hair at this rate with this hustle culture lol
bro, I lost more hair during the past 3 years than my dad did for the past 30 years, I'm just 22 and I have the hairline of a 40-year-old with 3 kids
hustle culture is a disease
I'm glad you made a video talking about this topic. Growing up and especially through college, we are taught via movies, TV, mentors, teachers, professors to work hard to be successful. But the success they talked about was purely professional and financial. There was nothing about working smart or even a different definition of success. I always felt like I wasn't living up to my potential if I didn't burn myself out at work. It took me over ten years of being a working man to finally come into my own about the definition of success. I was tired of letting society define it for me. I define a well balanced life as successful. There is so much more to life than one's work and how much money you make or how high you are up the corporate ladder.
More talks on topics like this please, Mayuko! I see you as a big sister giving advice on issues like this as I'm also a young asian-american women striving in tech/research culture. I really appreciate the vulnerability you showed. Keep up the good work :)!
Do you think this is something you realized now because you’re more mature or simply because you’re sitting on a comfortable amount of money that it doesn’t really matter? I don’t think anyone actually wants hustle culture.
i thought the same. but as she said, she has this privilege.
Truth 👏 This is essential advice for entrepreneurs. So many give everything they have to their business without leaving time for other essential things. Whether you consider yourself part of "hustle culture" or not, success doesn't come through burnout 🔥🔥🔥
i don’t need to hustle when i am such an epic gaemer 😎
So many ppl tell me how they always stay up super late just working and it’s such a turnoff. And they’d look at me like I wasn’t doin enough by not staying up. Feel like taking things step by step’s a way better approach! This content is acc so wholesome! 🥺🥺
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I've been following your channel since your DITL of a software engineer video and this is my FAVORITE video so far. Honestly, there needs to be more dialogue on this topic. 03:38 to 04:10 was exactly how I felt!! When I bought into hustle culture, it made me feel like I wasn't working hard enough, ever, especially when I saw my peers succeeding over me. Especially loved the comment on the qualitative metrics (the journey/experience) 😭
Although this expression is frivolous, I must say Mayuko is really charming!
Thank you Mayuko for this. I am having crisis right now and am questioning my worth everyday because of my work. This helped