NX450+ owner here! 17,000 miles and counting. I’ve taken the car cross country and in extreme conditions (off-road, thick snow, mountain). This car has performed amazingly!!! I have a feeling the longer this car is out, more people will chime in on its versatility. I also regularly get 40 miles on the EV range. In short, Lexus undersells and over delivers in this car segment! The car is smooth as butter and luxurious. Worth every penny so far!!
As an owner, I concur. 4,000 miles on mine and the in town EV mode and powerful drivetrain on the highway are an amazing combination. Especially when you get 35+ mpg no matter how you drive.
As an owner, 14k miles here, I concur. So glad to have a plug-in hybrid with this range and yet have the ability to not be stuck with the lacking EV charging network.
Interested in hearing about your experience in the snow. I’m considering this as my daily driver and ski car. Given the apparently lackluster eAWD, I’m concerned about safety traversing highway 80 through the Sierra Nevada even with snow tires. What was it like in snow/ice at highway speeds? Did you experience much slip? Thanks in advance.
@@BigRedChico it did well in the snow. The only issue might be clearance, anything over 6 inches of snow I would need a lift. If you will be driving in these condition most of the time I would suggest a good set of winter tires. As far as the eAWD, it performed very well and seems to be dialed in really well from the factory.
@@BigRedChico i drive my NX450h+ here north of Montreal in heavy snow and icy conditions quite a lot. Owned Subaru Outback and Toyota 4Runner before. Very happy with my NX AWD performance so far. Does not feel disconnected at all.
I’ve had my NX450h+ F-Sport for a year and love it. It is the perfect daily driver. Great EV/fuel efficiency, technology/driver assist features, ride quality, acceleration, and material/build quality. It will have low running costs, be reliable, and low depreciation. No range anxiety and I drove it over 6 months before I refueled. Platform sharing with the RAV4 means inexpensive and good parts availability. Driving dynamics are fine for this segment of vehicle, it is as engaging as I need an SUV to be. I have a weekend car if I really need the ‘drivers car’ or 10/10ths driving experience. I’m sure the BMW, Acura, and Genesis are great to drive but not a contender without a PHEV powertrain. Volvo Recharge is appealing but Volvo reliability is questionable. All of these will have higher running costs (fuel, maintenance) and depreciation compared to the Lexus. Maybe a good option to lease but not as compelling for 5+ year long term ownership. I did cross shop a RAV4 Prime which is also an excellent car but the interior design and tech felt last generation and less refined. For a car to own long term, paying the premium for the Lexus quality and latest generation tech felt well worth it. If you’re looking for a PHEV SUV, I highly recommend the NX and would not trade mine for any of the alternatives cars mentioned. RAV4 Prime is a fine choice if the Lexus is out of budget. The upcoming yet to be announced Mazda PHEV SUV is an alternative worth looking into as well.
Yeah, I'm with you. In a crossover or SUV I'm not really looking for driving dynamics. Those vehicles aren't made to be fun to drive, they're made for utility and practicality. If I want fun to drive I'll take a car.
Does yours have HUD, my R4P has a tachometer only on the hud, engine randomly comes on even when in EV only mode. I think its a maintenance mode thing but does come on semi frequently, but the infotainment/dash doesn't show ICE is on at all. The dash has standard eco/power/charge , only the hud shows the tach if you change it in the options. I try to run my engine at least once a month burn off moisture/etc since I charge it nightly. I know a person with a Prius prime charged it for nearly 2 years and go to finally use gas and nothing worked. The dealer said gas turned to jelly.
@@kyrosmike Common things that will bring the gas engine on: 1) Using the defroster. 2) Using the adaptive cruise control. 3) Excessive downhill/ brake regeneration.
It's a glorified Rav4 prime. Too much money imo. I would get a X5 45e, much more refined, gets 40 miles Electric only, a lot more space, far superior tech and drive feel. And this comes form a LS 500 F sport owner.
My wife has a RAV4 Prime SE. That was about $43,000 before the $7500 incentive. It's the best around town car we've ever had with over 40 miles of usable EV range. It's also an amazing road trip car. The passing power would probably surprise most people. I'm sure the Lexus is better but it doesn't seem $20k better to me. I think they need to do more to differentiate between them. Awesome video as always!
In its class, the RAV4 PHEV may be good, but not comparable to this NX, the fit and finish, the interiors are absolutely different. No one cares or notices a RAV4.
@@kpmmsupervision1297 Both cars are fine, they are cousins, not that much of a difference in terms of 'driving'. Both offer reliability. Biggest different is price and design - user preference. I'd still pick the NX over RAV.
@@dgdave2673 may surprise you, but most people dont buy a car to get noticed, its whats best value and most practical for them, so as long as they care thats all that matters, in that sense the Rav4 definitely is a good car as you'll see in the sales numbers.
Somehow, I’m guessing “Jack hit a chair on the highway” was actually “Mark curbed it at the Kum & Go” ..but either way I loved the silence dotted with scraping plastic noises/giggling. It brought back fond auto auction memories. Hop in a clean looking off-lease whatever to drive it across two states to a dealer only to get fifty feet onto a Denver onramp and realize it’s suddenly dragging its plastic ass on the ground behind it. “WTF are we doing?” was said so, so many times.
I've had the older NX as a service loaner, and your comments about the high beltline, driving position, and tight(-er) interior are spot-on. It's a very nice small CUV. But for $60k, I think I'd go large with a GX and cope with the horrific fuel economy, knowing nothing will go wrong with it. In my area I have to worry about deer season - apparently in Illinois you have herds of chairs running out into the road. Did you take it to the local dealer for repair or just apply more zip-ties until you returned it? I think you could start a new series on the service experience you get with various brands.
totally different shoppers with other priorities. If I was looking at an NX sized electric hybrid, an oversized GX with crappy mileage is not even on the list.
Ordered it in June and still awaiting patiently for the delivery, I tried Genesis and Acura, but my Lexus loyalty overpowered them (this will be my fourth Lexus since 2004). As the reliability and quietness of the Lexus are the most important to me, so I am happy to stay in Lexus family for the years to come. NX450h+ is the car suits me the best, even better than the new RX.
Hyundai is a dead brand to me as are KIA and Genesis. When problems surface, they deny them, and told me burning a quart of oil every 500 miles is 'normal', and when the engine blew at 120k under extended warranty, that was due to 'normal' wear and tear. Lexus treats me like their favorite customer, even though my 06 GX470 has 225k on it. I always get loaner Lexus when I get service, rides to the airport, and after a recall, they detailed it and filled it with gas 'no charge'. To me, paying more for a Lexus is worth it.
Good point, have you kept all 4 cars since 2004? The reason is one of my friends says BMW is super reliable, but he's always leasing a new car every 3-4 years. So he wouldn't really know how reliable BMW is beyond 3-4 years.
Same here. Our Hyundai Sonata and Kia Sorento went into dealership so many times before hitting 100k miles. Our Toyota Tundra with 210k miles and Lexus Es300h with 130k miles had zero issue. No more Korean brand for our family and close friends.
@@TheBreakfastLoverBMW=Broke my Wallet. Empty $ pits over 5 years old and/or 50k miles. These are facts not opinions. I had one (2013 X5 w 94 k miles) bought it when it was 5 years old and it fell apart within 8 months that I owned it. Traded it in for a 1 owner 2013 ES350 which I kept for 24 months. I no longer own that Lexus I sold it for my current 2002 ES300 which is just as good if not better than the ES350
@@TheBreakfastLover lol I'm a big BMW fan, but I've never heard anyone call them "super reliable". To be fair the new turbo engines are bulletproof, and their reliability ratings are the best they've been in a long time. 1995-2019 bmw had a lot more issues. My 2010 535i is up to 113k miles and I plan on taking it to 200k if I can
My Rav4 Prime is great, this is way more money has less EV range. It does look more premium but sounds like all the styling has taken a toll on the usability and space. The prime also does not feel like a sports car, but being able to tow 1500+lbs while still getting over 27mpg is excellent.
Along the wisdom "less is more", your production becomes better by simply leaving potential outtakes in. Makes it entertaining and more relatable, because not sterile or inauthentic. Also long segments of talking thoughtfully and clearly instead of switching back and forth between two camera angles to piece together sentence fragments for 'perfection'. It is basically a meta approach of not going overkill with technological crutches. Your reviews are like the cars you like. They have character. I am looking forward to April 1st. 😁
I find the dash on the NX to be nice. The fact that the top tilts toward you means dust is less likely to collect on it and the surrounds reduce glare. With my current VW the bottom is tilted towards you so you have a nice slope for dust to settle all over the dash. It's a small detail, but very much functional.
I ordered the 350h AWD in february of last year and was able to get my mine in march 22. This was for my parents as their car was getting older and needed a change. I wanted the 450h because while it was more expensive, it was allowed to get an EV Credit which offset it, but the state I was purchasing was not a zero-carbon state. So majority of these were being shipped to California where people were paying 10K above MSRP (dealer in cali told me to just wait it out). Anyways, I'm happy with the car or rather, my parents are. I am dumbfounded by some technological choices such as how terrible the wireless charging is and that if your phone does not connect to the system, it will interrupt the screen every 5 minutes and I consider this to be a distraction issue.
Bought this one on my wife's boyfriend's suggestion, even if I already drive a 2005 Prius. Paid extra $5K ADM as well but you know what they say- Happy Wife, Happy Life!
20,000 km here and counting. What a terrific vehicle. Well built and seamless hybrid system. We fill up gas every three months with this. Fit and finish inside is second to none.
Enjoyed this video but you left out one key factor for the Lexus NX450h+, and that is availability. I have been on a dealer waiting list for the NX350h for 12 months and the dealer told me to not even try to get the 450h+ since the 450h+ was being allotted to California. The dealer would not even guess on how long I would have to wait for the 450h+ version or say that I would ever be able to get one.
I live in the middle of the USA. Lexus dealer near me told me this vehicle is a unicorn. They would be happy to put me on their waiting list, but it would be well over a year, or longer, to get one. RAV4 Prime is not any better in terms of wait list. Frusterating.
Pure EVss can make sense. Read some of the EV sites or EV channels and anyone who buys a hybrid is an idiot. Also ICE cars will be worthless by 2025. And they seem serious with these proclamations.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Insofar as the general shift to electric cars is concerned, I call bullshit... its a government mandated novelty. Why? Batteries and the electrical grid. Battery efficiency drops dramatically in cold weather. Presently, there are rolling brownouts merely because people run their home air conditioners! What happens when electric cars are sold in really large numbers? Just when will we double or triple our generating capacity? I don't see people lining up to have coal-fired or nuclear generating stations built in their backyards. BTW, China has a monopoly on materials for battery production. EV 's are nothing more than the whimsical dream of some bloviating governmental bureaucrat, owned by the Chinese, who is worrying about a crisis that doesn't exist. I could go on for about as long as it takes to charge an electric car, but, I have to go back to work, saving up for my replacement battery pack, produced by slave labor... to save the planet, of course .
Again, an outstanding review. SavageGeese is the best motor enthusiast channel on all of CZcams. About the car: Just the cost is enough to pass on this RAV4 in a prom dress. I'd rather pay the extra coin for a hybrid RX (maybe a good used one with service records or Certified). At least you'd get a useful back seat and bigger cargo area. Maybe I'll luck out and find one with a Mark Levinson sound system.
I’d rather save and get a Camry w the v6. Practically the same car but significantly more refined than the nx. The smoothness of the 3.5 simply cannot be touched by any Toyota leuxs 4 cylinder
@@MAAtx it’s a fact. The Camry w the v6 especially is Toyotas best car they have right now. The GR corolla is close but it gets way too expensive for its size. Once you drive a 3.5L v6 Toyota any Toyota 4 cylinder turbo or not will fell like a penalty box
@@naveenthemachine I agree, the 2GR is an incredible motor. I had an IS350 for a while and loved it in that. The fact that peak power comes at practically redline is also quite fun 😁
At this point Patagonia should really sponsor the Savage boys. I wonder if they call each other up in in the morning to tell each other to wear Patagonia gear.
I went from a 2020 rdx to this and won't be looking back. The Acura had serious quality issues. The pano roof was replaced 2 weeks into owning and the front brakes were replaced twice. Fit and finish and gas mileage can't be beat.
i completely understand you on the build quality as i own one of the very first redesigned RDX back in 2020 but do you feel claustrophobic in the NX now? This is also 30-40k more (Canadian) than when i bought that RDX with A Spec... so it still feels worth it to you?
I drive almost exclusively highway miles thus the electric contribution is less important to me. $60,000 for this vehicle is insanely expensive. Currently looking at the Mazda CX50.
cx50 is a huge piece of turd..not even comparable...torsion beam rear and unrefined ride, antiqudated drivetrain (be it base 2.5 ancient 4banger used in mazda3's forever or the truck like 2.5T that hates to rev , decade old 6spd slow transmission), terrible mpg and cost cutting all around inside and outside, couple gen behind on driver's assist and other tech. it's even worse than the CX5..it has nice looking design and lots of plastic cladding though.
@@gilboman So Mazda drivetrain is antiquated but a $60,000 Lexus with a 2.5-liter Atkinson 4-banger that sounds like a wood chipper and makes 180 hp isn’t? 🤔
So the 2nd from the top CX50 is around $42,000 and actually gets pretty good reviews. The criticisms are valid albeit somewhat exaggerated. The Lexus 450h is over $60,000, seems a bit cramped per several reviewers, and will never return me enough savings in gas to pay the over $20,000 (with tax) difference. The NX350 or 350h are worth looking at but even then are $6,000 to $8,000 more expensive than the CX50.
@@Ficon the 2.5 in mazdas is decades old and who tf uses 6 speeds anymore? You're trying put a plug in hybrid on the same level as an engine from the 90's because it's heard in the cabin? Idiot....
The NX 450h+ is great in EV mode and serenely quiet. That said when the 2.5L engine fires, you hear it a lot. Lexus tried to mute it down compared to the very rattly Rav4, but the fact of the matter is while the A25A-FXS is a VERY fuel efficient engine, the refinement and smoothness you expect from the Lexus badge up front is simply not there. Also, the price tag is steep for what is essentially a Rav4 Prime with more amenities and leather. For those who have short commutes the savings would be great as is the quiet ride in EV mode and the hybrid option gives it great MPG when on roadtrips, but I'm not quite sure the value proposition is here. I would be looking REAL hard at the XC40 Recharge or the more refined X3 xDrive30e for about the same money.
@@mikej238 I’ve driven other vehicles with the 2.5L dynamic force engine. It’s noisy and unrefined. The reason I know this is because we also own a 2018 rav4 and the 4 cylinder in that one is significantly smoother than the current one
@@mikej238 actually I have. I test drove a Lexus nx at an auto show a while back. I believe it was the 350 turbo. I wasn’t very impressed with the turbo. It was definitely noisier than the 3.5L v6. Didn’t feel anywhere near as refined as the v6. I could hear more nvh inside especially road noise. The interior also wasn’t very luxurious. If anything it screamed Toyota+ than Lexus. And the tech was hard to get used to especially the steering wheel controls
It’s a great CUV, however it’s for people who are single and have one pet. I think they should’ve put this tech into a IS350 and make it into a hybrid wagon!
I'll wait until this vehicle is 4 years old and has lost 35 - 40% of its value. Then and only then will it be the perfect car haha. In all seriousness, I'm a car guy through and through, but for my daily driver, I want something that's comfortable, reliable, somewhat utilitarian, and efficient. The NX fits the bill perfectly. This is coming from a guy who's dream sports car is a Superformance MKIII Cobra.
Perfect EV mileage for daily commute, efficiency and reliability. Nice to have some looks as well. Have other cars that serves other purposes. Thx for sharing!
I appreciate the work going into PHEV tech, but I will be avoiding this phase of cars entirely. I will hold on to a normal ICE or ICE+hybrid car until EVs are solid enough to go straight there. I just don't want this level of mechanical complexity in a vehicle. I love how mechanically simple and efficient EVs are, and adding an entire ICE drivetrain back in defeats the purpose for me. I'm taking delivery of a stone age simple 2023 4Runner, and I will hold onto it until sort of affordable tough EV 4x4's have hit their stride.
I drove a Rav4 Prime last week from Richmond, Va to Washington D.C. and back. I was really impressed with the electric range of around 46 miles. I would turn the gas engine on when the EV range was down to 8-10 miles and then when I hit the inevitable traffic jams on I-95 the EV range was back up to 36 miles. The 2.5l engine was a little rough, but that could just be more noticeable after driving in electric which was really smooth. I've heard people who just use plugin hybrids commuting and driving around town on all electric all the time can have issues with contaminated gas since they rarely use the engine. I don't know how much truth there is to this, but it's something I would ask the dealer about if I were purchasing. I would also consider the Lexus over the Toyota because there's not a huge difference in price. The Rav4 I was driving cost over 50k and many dealers are getting over sticker because there's limited inventory and high demand.
Can you comment on the whole “cable gate” situation in some detail? According to the internet (I know) the Lexus and Toyota cable that connects the back hybrid motor goes through degradation do to salt and water…isn’t covered by the hybrid warranty, and costs $5k to repair. Is there substance behind this or is it just a ploy to get people to cancel there orders on popular awd Lexus/toyota hybrids? Thanks.
Pretty sure Ahmed of the Car Care Nut channel covered this in one of his videos. He puts a car on the hoist and shows how the plug now has a cover, or something to that effect, to prevent the corrosion issue.
@@lookinin123 maybe the geese boys can speak to it. It has always had the cover. They re-vamped it in 2021 but people are saying the issue is still popping up. I find it a little hard to believe it’s a major issue with the pure volume of awd hybrids Lexus and Toyota put out, but people are saying outside the 3 year 36k warranty the cable isn’t covered, it costs $5k, and some claim to already be on their 2nd or 3rd cable
We love our 350h! But not for $60K..When I looked at the Toyota's/Lexus in person, at $45K for our NX350h and Safety Sense 3.0 it's a pretty good value, especially compared to $42K Rav4 hybird or $43K Venza's older tech.
Everything. More wood trim more leather, more metal trim, a higher degree of precision and build quality on the Mercedes than lexus. Lexus uses the same injection molded plastics and the same hard plastic doors as a lesser Toyota
Neighter NX or RX offer a usuable trunk, considering the trunk size of course. I do not understand the decisioning behind it, especially that BMW offers better trunk usability...
After my first newborn (he’s 7 months now) I’ve rarely driven my Lexus LC500. I love that car, but there is little point to having an amazing garage decoration. I think I will be swapping my LC for this NX
I recently purchased a NX450h+.. My only complaint is that it has a hard time with the bluetooth on my phone. However, that aside it has performed splendidly. Currently I've stopped plugging in the car because I want to make sure that the gas guage is actually working. Usually I burn about a quarter tank of gasoline a week. It seems that the car is set to EV mode so I haven't used any gas that, at least, I can tell from the guage. I also have the digital rear view mirror, which I'm not using because the image is just too sharp. The 1080p bright rear images are super clear.
Idk what is happening but Lexus/Toyota have been recalling their newer models. Lexus issued a recall order for the 2022 NX SUVs because their front shock absorbers can detach, potentially causing drivers to lose control. Also, an issue with the parking brake: the brake actuator assembly may erroneously trigger a fail-safe mode that prevents drivers from engaging or disengaging the parking brake. The NHTSA oversaw these issues of course. Tens of thousands of models were recalled.
@@rosgoncharuk2403 It's not mythical. It's actual. Toyotas are mostly reliable and that includes Lexus. There are some quality control issues and they're no perfect. But they are still quite reliable overall.
Rav 4 Hybrid is not a PHEV. I have a Rav 4 Hybrid Limited on order and a NX350h on order. No comparison in ride quality and comfort...and sound. In Canada a Rav 4 Ltd Hybrid is 51 000 delivered, the NX350h is 58 000 delivered.
@@donaldbanner2185 considering it’s not faster than a rav4 prime yet it doesn’t really handle better and it has a noisy 4 cylinder, why bother? If I drove it and compared it to my Toyota it would be a downgrade
The current trend of high beltlines and small windows is not my thing. Not only does it look artificially "sporty" but the visibility out of the vehicles is horrible compared to more conventional proportions.
Lexus NX 450h Plus or the Mercedes GLC plug-in hybrid for 80% city driving? For the rest of the time we do 10% trails and 10% going on vacation on high distance.
All steel suspension with fully serviceable arms 🤤. Relatively cool and reliable NA engine. Gearless, beltless automatic that won't burn friction discs. What is it if not a definition of reliable car that you could service and drive for decades?
Yes probably longer reliability but how long will you keep it before you want something newer..... that's what happened to me with my Camry. Got board of it and desired another.
@@michaelvella8511 , I don't see any reason why simple comfy daily commuter could bore you, I mean it's must be boring by design. It's just need to drive you from A to B without headaches and with a maximum comfort. If you seek driving pleasure, you need to have dedicated sports car. Daily and pleasure are very hard (at least very expensive) to combine, I've tried.
Lexus makes some great product, this one is not one of them. It would be fine if we called it a Toyota, slap the Lexus branding, charge an extra $15k and it's just not reasonable.
In my opinion, you must drive the F-Sport version if you want to review the NX450H+. I have 4K miles on mine and I only have one complain: interior materials are cheap and scratch easily.
How does it handle on snow, given that front and rear feel so disconnected, which I am interpreting as less competent AWD? Is it even suitable for the snow belts of North America?
The door handle system is a pain in the a** ? Next to the plastic door handle of the UX and ES, it is a great system in my opinion. We got the same system in the LBX in Europe.
It's strange that a car that costs 60K would have a dashboard completely covered in urethane and not a single leather stitch. That's really interesting!
When you sit in it it's much more premium then it appears and is very well built, It didn't feel any less premium then an x5 45e I sat in for comparison but did feel worse then the Audi and especially Genesis GV80
Yet another YT video on this that doesn't talk about availability. Many brands' PHEVs and full EVs are only available in the 11 zev states, this included. Toyota and the Korean trio are some, yet no youtuber ever states this in their videos of those vehicles. It's very important information to get out there, and they omit it every time.
Good review, but I'm surprised you didn't mention the XC60 Recharge, as they both run similar types of Plug In Hybrid implementations (ability to run "pure mode", similar AWD systems) and are priced similarly. Although that being said, the RX (when it comes out) will be a more direct competitor with the XC60 than this.
@@benjaminsmith2287 he also said the older recharges, probably the ones with the supercharger/turbo combo. We have a 2023 XC60 Recharge and everything feels really well connected and intuitive, at least in our layman's eyes. We're extremely happy with our purchase.
Why should Lexus make their own platforms when they already have arguably the best ones that they (keep in mind) codevelop with Toyota and Lexus isn’t 100% focused on driving dynamics yes they factor that In but most Lexus shoppers aren’t looking for the best handling they want something that’s more luxurious/fancy than a Toyota and will still last unlike most of its competitors
These days lexus isn’t more luxurious than a Toyota. Except the LC and ES Also if Acura and genesis can make better unique bespoke platforms why can’t Lexus?
Your comments regarding this being built on a "lesser" platform (and the Rav4) brings to mind a thought that I have had as I shop for a new vehicle....how much are we compromising for better fuel economy?
Wait wait, the RDX has better materials than this?! But i thought Acura is technically a premium brand, not a luxury brand so they typically cheap out on some materials🤔
I like this, but I find it odd that you cannot get the Mark Levinson sound system in this trim, and I think the infotainment screen looks like the Guardian of Forever from Star Trek.
It’s the answer to the problem that nobody had. This is an issue with higher-end cars in general - too much complicated crap, and it’s all going to be very expensive when it breaks.
@@naveenthemachine It seems to be the latest trend that, sadly, I think we’re going to see more of. Though my comment was about the over-complication of higher-end vehicles in general.
@@mikej238 jokes on you my 2020 Camry v6 is a lot less complex than the nx. It doesn’t have electronic door handles. Or touch sensitive steering wheel controls. Or a joystick shifter like the Prius. Plus the Camry still has physical buttons and knobs for everything from audio to climate control to having a proper Home Screen.
I'd have argued this is much less a lexus RAV4, and more a lexus venza. and funnily enough, with the e-awd talk, the NX450h+ is actually the same base MSRP as a V60 recharge in canada, to qualify for govn't incentives. sadly, both cars take premium.
I will not buy a Lexus because they only install run flat tires that I will never buy, Michelin regular tires with a spare tire and Jack is what I want. A quality tire providing the best possible ride that gives you the smoothest ride and a quieter cabin.
Toyota/Lexus only have 1 rear drive unibody TNGA platform which is GA-L (LS/LC/Mirai/S220 Crown) and nothing for the compact RWD segment or other segments, I guess that's why when they updated the IS it is still on old 3rd gen IS platform, don't know why they can't just shrink the GA-L platform like before when the GS was still around maybe because Toyota side don't need it since GR86 is not on a Toyota platform also it is too small to be IS or a rear drive based NX. They are not gonna use Supra's BMW platform to build an IS and NX off of. But then again the NX using the GA-K rav4 platform gives lexus more money to spend on other shit on the NX which is a good thing.
i only spent this much on my highlander hybrid lol, dealerships are so bad when you have no option and short notice. at least i killed them on the interest (2.75)
Old lady car! The Lexus NX competes in the Compact Premium SUV segment. According to data collected from verified new-vehicle buyers for the J.D. Power 2021 Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study, 59 percent of new Lexus NX buyers are female (vs. 47 percent for the segment), and the median age of an NX buyer is 61 years (vs. 60).
Not sure about the high beltline claustrophobia comment, when you have the seat down as far as it will go and you clearly have 8-12 inches of headroom from your skull to the roof liner. Raise your seat up, man. I had zero visibility or hemmed in feelings with the 2023 350h loaner I recently drove. Our 450h+ is on order. I'll take Lexus reliability and efficiency over MB, BMW, Hyundai, Volvo or Acura driving dynamics any day. I'm not taking my luxury SUV to the track. Thanks for the informed review. Good work.
Naw man Toyotas/lexus AREN'T known to be the most spacious. My family sold their 07 CRV and got a 18 Rav4, one of the things i hate abt it was how cramped it felt when i sat in the front, and the glove box would hit my knees when i would open it (in my ideal seating position as a 5.5ft person mind you)
You just never been in other rivals, like the RDX, it's a night and difference in the RDX vs NX. The only toyota/lexus i felt was decent in space is the new grand highlander/TX, and the toyota sienna
@Stefin770 I have been in most competitor SUVs. Question. Just what are you doing in these vehicles that you need so much room? I value reliability and great gas mileage over having room to change pants or whatever you are needing to do in your land yacht of choice. RDX fuel economy sucks and transmissions are notoriously weak. Each to his own I guess.
Does it still snap oversteer? A reminder for everyone that the mechanically identical RAV4 Prime is pretty much the only modern car to repeatedly fail the moose test, including after Toyota said they fixed ESC calibration.
The stability control is different. It will not allow for enough front understeer to snap correct like I saw on RAV4. But it was also way different conditions than last time
I come for the cars but stay for the Patagonia fashion show.
Ok that was funny as hell.
Hilarious
They were rocking the Kirkland the other day
Should have a sponsorship tbh
O m g comment of the year
NX450+ owner here! 17,000 miles and counting. I’ve taken the car cross country and in extreme conditions (off-road, thick snow, mountain). This car has performed amazingly!!! I have a feeling the longer this car is out, more people will chime in on its versatility. I also regularly get 40 miles on the EV range. In short, Lexus undersells and over delivers in this car segment! The car is smooth as butter and luxurious. Worth every penny so far!!
As an owner, I concur. 4,000 miles on mine and the in town EV mode and powerful drivetrain on the highway are an amazing combination. Especially when you get 35+ mpg no matter how you drive.
As an owner, 14k miles here, I concur. So glad to have a plug-in hybrid with this range and yet have the ability to not be stuck with the lacking EV charging network.
Interested in hearing about your experience in the snow. I’m considering this as my daily driver and ski car. Given the apparently lackluster eAWD, I’m concerned about safety traversing highway 80 through the Sierra Nevada even with snow tires. What was it like in snow/ice at highway speeds? Did you experience much slip? Thanks in advance.
@@BigRedChico it did well in the snow. The only issue might be clearance, anything over 6 inches of snow I would need a lift. If you will be driving in these condition most of the time I would suggest a good set of winter tires. As far as the eAWD, it performed very well and seems to be dialed in really well from the factory.
@@BigRedChico i drive my NX450h+ here north of Montreal in heavy snow and icy conditions quite a lot. Owned Subaru Outback and Toyota 4Runner before. Very happy with my NX AWD performance so far. Does not feel disconnected at all.
When Jack does the *nod with slow blink and solumn expression* it warms my tender heart.
OwO
I’ve had my NX450h+ F-Sport for a year and love it. It is the perfect daily driver. Great EV/fuel efficiency, technology/driver assist features, ride quality, acceleration, and material/build quality. It will have low running costs, be reliable, and low depreciation. No range anxiety and I drove it over 6 months before I refueled. Platform sharing with the RAV4 means inexpensive and good parts availability. Driving dynamics are fine for this segment of vehicle, it is as engaging as I need an SUV to be. I have a weekend car if I really need the ‘drivers car’ or 10/10ths driving experience.
I’m sure the BMW, Acura, and Genesis are great to drive but not a contender without a PHEV powertrain. Volvo Recharge is appealing but Volvo reliability is questionable. All of these will have higher running costs (fuel, maintenance) and depreciation compared to the Lexus. Maybe a good option to lease but not as compelling for 5+ year long term ownership.
I did cross shop a RAV4 Prime which is also an excellent car but the interior design and tech felt last generation and less refined. For a car to own long term, paying the premium for the Lexus quality and latest generation tech felt well worth it.
If you’re looking for a PHEV SUV, I highly recommend the NX and would not trade mine for any of the alternatives cars mentioned. RAV4 Prime is a fine choice if the Lexus is out of budget. The upcoming yet to be announced Mazda PHEV SUV is an alternative worth looking into as well.
Yeah, I'm with you. In a crossover or SUV I'm not really looking for driving dynamics. Those vehicles aren't made to be fun to drive, they're made for utility and practicality. If I want fun to drive I'll take a car.
Does yours have HUD, my R4P has a tachometer only on the hud, engine randomly comes on even when in EV only mode. I think its a maintenance mode thing but does come on semi frequently, but the infotainment/dash doesn't show ICE is on at all. The dash has standard eco/power/charge , only the hud shows the tach if you change it in the options. I try to run my engine at least once a month burn off moisture/etc since I charge it nightly. I know a person with a Prius prime charged it for nearly 2 years and go to finally use gas and nothing worked. The dealer said gas turned to jelly.
@@kyrosmike Common things that will bring the gas engine on: 1) Using the defroster. 2) Using the adaptive cruise control. 3) Excessive downhill/ brake regeneration.
@@connerthecat4758 normal hybrid uses coolant for heat, R4P has a heat pump
It's a glorified Rav4 prime. Too much money imo. I would get a X5 45e, much more refined, gets 40 miles Electric only, a lot more space, far superior tech and drive feel.
And this comes form a LS 500 F sport owner.
Since I discovered Savageese I haven’t bought a new car. However, I have bought 5 Patagonia sweaters.
My wife has a RAV4 Prime SE. That was about $43,000 before the $7500 incentive. It's the best around town car we've ever had with over 40 miles of usable EV range. It's also an amazing road trip car. The passing power would probably surprise most people. I'm sure the Lexus is better but it doesn't seem $20k better to me. I think they need to do more to differentiate between them. Awesome video as always!
Agree in terms of price difference. But, I'd still pick the this one over the RAV4. haha.
Prime SE can’t be compared to nx450h. You only need 1 min driving the nx to find out the se is a meh car.
In its class, the RAV4 PHEV may be good, but not comparable to this NX, the fit and finish, the interiors are absolutely different. No one cares or notices a RAV4.
@@kpmmsupervision1297 Both cars are fine, they are cousins, not that much of a difference in terms of 'driving'. Both offer reliability. Biggest different is price and design - user preference. I'd still pick the NX over RAV.
@@dgdave2673 may surprise you, but most people dont buy a car to get noticed, its whats best value and most practical for them, so as long as they care thats all that matters, in that sense the Rav4 definitely is a good car as you'll see in the sales numbers.
Somehow, I’m guessing “Jack hit a chair on the highway” was actually “Mark curbed it at the Kum & Go”
..but either way I loved the silence dotted with scraping plastic noises/giggling. It brought back fond auto auction memories. Hop in a clean looking off-lease whatever to drive it across two states to a dealer only to get fifty feet onto a Denver onramp and realize it’s suddenly dragging its plastic ass on the ground behind it. “WTF are we doing?” was said so, so many times.
I've had the older NX as a service loaner, and your comments about the high beltline, driving position, and tight(-er) interior are spot-on. It's a very nice small CUV. But for $60k, I think I'd go large with a GX and cope with the horrific fuel economy, knowing nothing will go wrong with it.
In my area I have to worry about deer season - apparently in Illinois you have herds of chairs running out into the road. Did you take it to the local dealer for repair or just apply more zip-ties until you returned it? I think you could start a new series on the service experience you get with various brands.
Reminds me of the Mazda CX-30. It has an extremely tall and narrow beltline. Terrible visibility.
Depends on needs. For me, I already have a hauler, don't need the GX.
this car is for someone who needs a small size car whatever the price
totally different shoppers with other priorities. If I was looking at an NX sized electric hybrid, an oversized GX with crappy mileage is not even on the list.
@@andifineprojectdespite that, they’ll sell every one they make ……and more.
Rav 4 superleggera sounds like an amazing new trim.🤣😂You guys are the very best !
Ordered it in June and still awaiting patiently for the delivery, I tried Genesis and Acura, but my Lexus loyalty overpowered them (this will be my fourth Lexus since 2004). As the reliability and quietness of the Lexus are the most important to me, so I am happy to stay in Lexus family for the years to come. NX450h+ is the car suits me the best, even better than the new RX.
Hyundai is a dead brand to me as are KIA and Genesis. When problems surface, they deny them, and told me burning a quart of oil every 500 miles is 'normal', and when the engine blew at 120k under extended warranty, that was due to 'normal' wear and tear. Lexus treats me like their favorite customer, even though my 06 GX470 has 225k on it. I always get loaner Lexus when I get service, rides to the airport, and after a recall, they detailed it and filled it with gas 'no charge'. To me, paying more for a Lexus is worth it.
Good point, have you kept all 4 cars since 2004? The reason is one of my friends says BMW is super reliable, but he's always leasing a new car every 3-4 years. So he wouldn't really know how reliable BMW is beyond 3-4 years.
Same here. Our Hyundai Sonata and Kia Sorento went into dealership so many times before hitting 100k miles. Our Toyota Tundra with 210k miles and Lexus Es300h with 130k miles had zero issue. No more Korean brand for our family and close friends.
@@TheBreakfastLoverBMW=Broke my Wallet. Empty $ pits over 5 years old and/or 50k miles. These are facts not opinions. I had one (2013 X5 w 94 k miles) bought it when it was 5 years old and it fell apart within 8 months that I owned it. Traded it in for a 1 owner 2013 ES350 which I kept for 24 months. I no longer own that Lexus I sold it for my current 2002 ES300 which is just as good if not better than the ES350
@@TheBreakfastLover lol I'm a big BMW fan, but I've never heard anyone call them "super reliable".
To be fair the new turbo engines are bulletproof, and their reliability ratings are the best they've been in a long time. 1995-2019 bmw had a lot more issues. My 2010 535i is up to 113k miles and I plan on taking it to 200k if I can
My Rav4 Prime is great, this is way more money has less EV range. It does look more premium but sounds like all the styling has taken a toll on the usability and space. The prime also does not feel like a sports car, but being able to tow 1500+lbs while still getting over 27mpg is excellent.
Along the wisdom "less is more", your production becomes better by simply leaving potential outtakes in. Makes it entertaining and more relatable, because not sterile or inauthentic. Also long segments of talking thoughtfully and clearly instead of switching back and forth between two camera angles to piece together sentence fragments for 'perfection'. It is basically a meta approach of not going overkill with technological crutches. Your reviews are like the cars you like. They have character.
I am looking forward to April 1st. 😁
I think this is the sweet spot. No worrying about range or charge times, charger locations and great fuel economy.
I find the dash on the NX to be nice. The fact that the top tilts toward you means dust is less likely to collect on it and the surrounds reduce glare. With my current VW the bottom is tilted towards you so you have a nice slope for dust to settle all over the dash. It's a small detail, but very much functional.
I ordered the 350h AWD in february of last year and was able to get my mine in march 22. This was for my parents as their car was getting older and needed a change. I wanted the 450h because while it was more expensive, it was allowed to get an EV Credit which offset it, but the state I was purchasing was not a zero-carbon state. So majority of these were being shipped to California where people were paying 10K above MSRP (dealer in cali told me to just wait it out). Anyways, I'm happy with the car or rather, my parents are. I am dumbfounded by some technological choices such as how terrible the wireless charging is and that if your phone does not connect to the system, it will interrupt the screen every 5 minutes and I consider this to be a distraction issue.
it is refreshening to hear technically competent people talk about cars! It is not the norm on CZcams today
Bought this one on my wife's boyfriend's suggestion, even if I already drive a 2005 Prius. Paid extra $5K ADM as well but you know what they say- Happy Wife, Happy Life!
She must be happy indeed. Boyfriend plus new Lexus
WTH? Your wife has a boyfriend? 😮
someone sounds whipped
KEK
am i high or im reading that your wife has a boyfriend and you communicate with him
20,000 km here and counting. What a terrific vehicle. Well built and seamless hybrid system. We fill up gas every three months with this. Fit and finish inside is second to none.
Enjoyed this video but you left out one key factor for the Lexus NX450h+, and that is availability. I have been on a dealer waiting list for the NX350h for 12 months and the dealer told me to not even try to get the 450h+ since the 450h+ was being allotted to California. The dealer would not even guess on how long I would have to wait for the 450h+ version or say that I would ever be able to get one.
I live in the middle of the USA. Lexus dealer near me told me this vehicle is a unicorn. They would be happy to put me on their waiting list, but it would be well over a year, or longer, to get one. RAV4 Prime is not any better in terms of wait list. Frusterating.
Hoping to see similar treatment for the ES300h+. With AWD.
Seeing the new Vulf album on the infotainment brings me joy. Great video as always fellas.
Such a premium album
I can relate - a special “plug” also helps me get through the day.
It's simple, the plug saves this car's day, but your videos save our day 😀 Cheers from montréal
Hybrids make sense,
Pure EV's do not.
Well Done!
Pure EVss can make sense. Read some of the EV sites or EV channels and anyone who buys a hybrid is an idiot. Also ICE cars will be worthless by 2025. And they seem serious with these proclamations.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Insofar as the general shift to electric cars is concerned, I call bullshit... its a government mandated novelty. Why? Batteries and the electrical grid. Battery efficiency drops dramatically in cold weather.
Presently, there are rolling brownouts merely because people run their home air conditioners! What happens when electric cars are sold in really large numbers? Just when will we double or triple our generating capacity? I don't see people lining up to have coal-fired or nuclear generating stations built in their backyards. BTW, China has a monopoly on materials for battery production.
EV 's are nothing more than the whimsical dream of some bloviating governmental bureaucrat, owned by the Chinese, who is worrying about a crisis that doesn't exist. I could go on for about as long as it takes to charge an electric car, but, I have to go back to work, saving up for my replacement battery pack, produced by slave labor... to save the planet, of course
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If Acura makes a PHEV RDX I will be buying that over this.
Keep waiting.
Idk why but I love how this one looks.
Is the "chair test" part of the new testing protocol for boring SUVs? That's a brilliant way to add some excitement to it.
It is when you drive on chicago highways and other people want to test their truck beds with the unsecured truck bed test. Its very cool.
Cheaper maybe. But even then why would you even bother?
Again, an outstanding review. SavageGeese is the best motor enthusiast channel on all of CZcams.
About the car: Just the cost is enough to pass on this RAV4 in a prom dress. I'd rather pay the extra coin for a hybrid RX (maybe a good used one with service records or Certified). At least you'd get a useful back seat and bigger cargo area. Maybe I'll luck out and find one with a Mark Levinson sound system.
I’d rather save and get a Camry w the v6. Practically the same car but significantly more refined than the nx. The smoothness of the 3.5 simply cannot be touched by any Toyota leuxs 4 cylinder
@@naveenthemachineA Toyota/Lexus compliment?? Shocking!
@@MAAtx it’s a fact. The Camry w the v6 especially is Toyotas best car they have right now. The GR corolla is close but it gets way too expensive for its size.
Once you drive a 3.5L v6 Toyota any Toyota 4 cylinder turbo or not will fell like a penalty box
@@naveenthemachine I agree, the 2GR is an incredible motor. I had an IS350 for a while and loved it in that. The fact that peak power comes at practically redline is also quite fun 😁
@@Big_Red1 agreed and unlike the current 2.5 or 2.4 turbo, the v6 sounds so good especially near the redline without sounding buzzy
At this point Patagonia should really sponsor the Savage boys. I wonder if they call each other up in in the morning to tell each other to wear Patagonia gear.
No need to call or text when they have a strong telepathic connection.
AFAIU Patagonia are quite unhappy with them wearing it on camera. 😅
These guys could review office chairs and im gonna watch. Never stop.
@@doctorunicorn5550 😆
I went from a 2020 rdx to this and won't be looking back. The Acura had serious quality issues. The pano roof was replaced 2 weeks into owning and the front brakes were replaced twice. Fit and finish and gas mileage can't be beat.
i completely understand you on the build quality as i own one of the very first redesigned RDX back in 2020 but do you feel claustrophobic in the NX now? This is also 30-40k more (Canadian) than when i bought that RDX with A Spec... so it still feels worth it to you?
Mr Goose and burly sidekick are forever looking for an alternative to the Nissan Murano. Makes me appreciate the year-end CRX video even more.
I think you mean the Murano CrossCabriolet.
I drive almost exclusively highway miles thus the electric contribution is less important to me. $60,000 for this vehicle is insanely expensive. Currently looking at the Mazda CX50.
cx50 is a huge piece of turd..not even comparable...torsion beam rear and unrefined ride, antiqudated drivetrain (be it base 2.5 ancient 4banger used in mazda3's forever or the truck like 2.5T that hates to rev , decade old 6spd slow transmission), terrible mpg and cost cutting all around inside and outside, couple gen behind on driver's assist and other tech. it's even worse than the CX5..it has nice looking design and lots of plastic cladding though.
@@gilboman So Mazda drivetrain is antiquated but a $60,000 Lexus with a 2.5-liter Atkinson 4-banger that sounds like a wood chipper and makes 180 hp isn’t? 🤔
So the 2nd from the top CX50 is around $42,000 and actually gets pretty good reviews. The criticisms are valid albeit somewhat exaggerated. The Lexus 450h is over $60,000, seems a bit cramped per several reviewers, and will never return me enough savings in gas to pay the over $20,000 (with tax) difference. The NX350 or 350h are worth looking at but even then are $6,000 to $8,000 more expensive than the CX50.
@@Ficon the 2.5 in mazdas is decades old and who tf uses 6 speeds anymore? You're trying put a plug in hybrid on the same level as an engine from the 90's because it's heard in the cabin? Idiot....
CR-V Hybrid is your answer.
The NX 450h+ is great in EV mode and serenely quiet. That said when the 2.5L engine fires, you hear it a lot. Lexus tried to mute it down compared to the very rattly Rav4, but the fact of the matter is while the A25A-FXS is a VERY fuel efficient engine, the refinement and smoothness you expect from the Lexus badge up front is simply not there. Also, the price tag is steep for what is essentially a Rav4 Prime with more amenities and leather.
For those who have short commutes the savings would be great as is the quiet ride in EV mode and the hybrid option gives it great MPG when on roadtrips, but I'm not quite sure the value proposition is here. I would be looking REAL hard at the XC40 Recharge or the more refined X3 xDrive30e for about the same money.
My 2020 Toyota Camry XSE v6 is far more refined and more Lexus like in smoothness than the nx
@@naveenthemachine lol 😂 yeah ok 😂
@@mikej238 I’ve driven other vehicles with the 2.5L dynamic force engine. It’s noisy and unrefined. The reason I know this is because we also own a 2018 rav4 and the 4 cylinder in that one is significantly smoother than the current one
@@naveenthemachine and you have never driven a Lexus.
@@mikej238 actually I have. I test drove a Lexus nx at an auto show a while back. I believe it was the 350 turbo. I wasn’t very impressed with the turbo. It was definitely noisier than the 3.5L v6. Didn’t feel anywhere near as refined as the v6. I could hear more nvh inside especially road noise. The interior also wasn’t very luxurious. If anything it screamed Toyota+ than Lexus. And the tech was hard to get used to especially the steering wheel controls
It’s a great CUV, however it’s for people who are single and have one pet. I think they should’ve put this tech into a IS350 and make it into a hybrid wagon!
I'll wait until this vehicle is 4 years old and has lost 35 - 40% of its value. Then and only then will it be the perfect car haha. In all seriousness, I'm a car guy through and through, but for my daily driver, I want something that's comfortable, reliable, somewhat utilitarian, and efficient. The NX fits the bill perfectly. This is coming from a guy who's dream sports car is a Superformance MKIII Cobra.
Hey guys can you please cover somelthing like some of the older Lexus LS models. I'd love to see a Lexus ls600hl video.
Perfect EV mileage for daily commute, efficiency and reliability. Nice to have some looks as well. Have other cars that serves other purposes. Thx for sharing!
I appreciate the work going into PHEV tech, but I will be avoiding this phase of cars entirely. I will hold on to a normal ICE or ICE+hybrid car until EVs are solid enough to go straight there. I just don't want this level of mechanical complexity in a vehicle. I love how mechanically simple and efficient EVs are, and adding an entire ICE drivetrain back in defeats the purpose for me. I'm taking delivery of a stone age simple 2023 4Runner, and I will hold onto it until sort of affordable tough EV 4x4's have hit their stride.
I stand up for all Lexus cars,I got an IS300h ,already done 219000 miles .To be honest I didn't change nothing underneath the car...
I drove a Rav4 Prime last week from Richmond, Va to Washington D.C. and back. I was really impressed with the electric range of around 46 miles. I would turn the gas engine on when the EV range was down to 8-10 miles and then when I hit the inevitable traffic jams on I-95 the EV range was back up to 36 miles. The 2.5l engine was a little rough, but that could just be more noticeable after driving in electric which was really smooth. I've heard people who just use plugin hybrids commuting and driving around town on all electric all the time can have issues with contaminated gas since they rarely use the engine. I don't know how much truth there is to this, but it's something I would ask the dealer about if I were purchasing. I would also consider the Lexus over the Toyota because there's not a huge difference in price. The Rav4 I was driving cost over 50k and many dealers are getting over sticker because there's limited inventory and high demand.
If you want an engaging car get a Sports Car this car is an amazing daily commuter
I’m surprised there was no mention of the Audi q5 phev in the video or the comments. Best vehicle in this segment imo
Euro CRAP had Jus' one Auuuuuudi...Check your Engine light NIGHTMATE
No sound system analysis? Did you guys at least try it out?
In our last nx video. Its identical
Can you comment on the whole “cable gate” situation in some detail? According to the internet (I know) the Lexus and Toyota cable that connects the back hybrid motor goes through degradation do to salt and water…isn’t covered by the hybrid warranty, and costs $5k to repair. Is there substance behind this or is it just a ploy to get people to cancel there orders on popular awd Lexus/toyota hybrids? Thanks.
Pretty sure Ahmed of the Car Care Nut channel covered this in one of his videos. He puts a car on the hoist and shows how the plug now has a cover, or something to that effect, to prevent the corrosion issue.
@@lookinin123 maybe the geese boys can speak to it. It has always had the cover. They re-vamped it in 2021 but people are saying the issue is still popping up. I find it a little hard to believe it’s a major issue with the pure volume of awd hybrids Lexus and Toyota put out, but people are saying outside the 3 year 36k warranty the cable isn’t covered, it costs $5k, and some claim to already be on their 2nd or 3rd cable
We love our 350h! But not for $60K..When I looked at the Toyota's/Lexus in person, at $45K for our NX350h and Safety Sense 3.0 it's a pretty good value, especially compared to $42K Rav4 hybird or $43K Venza's older tech.
In 10 years, the car pays for itself. How many years for the 350h?
PERFECT LUXURY PLUG IN HYBRID 👌🏻😎👍🏻
That chair had it comin 😤
I wonder about which premium materials do you talk when you mention GLC? GLC looks nothing special, same level as lexus.
Everything. More wood trim more leather, more metal trim, a higher degree of precision and build quality on the Mercedes than lexus. Lexus uses the same injection molded plastics and the same hard plastic doors as a lesser Toyota
Neighter NX or RX offer a usuable trunk, considering the trunk size of course.
I do not understand the decisioning behind it, especially that BMW offers better trunk usability...
Nothing says luxury like the sound of a 4-popper. 💵
Meanwhile something like a Toyota Camry v6 suddenly sounds and feels like a Lexus in terms of smoothness and quietness
You have to start covering the monthly fees these cars are coming with. Like how remote start even from your key is 8 bucks a month
After my first newborn (he’s 7 months now) I’ve rarely driven my Lexus LC500. I love that car, but there is little point to having an amazing garage decoration. I think I will be swapping my LC for this NX
The only channel I watch videos on cars i couldn't care less about.
I recently purchased a NX450h+.. My only complaint is that it has a hard time with the bluetooth on my phone. However, that aside it has performed splendidly. Currently I've stopped plugging in the car because I want to make sure that the gas guage is actually working. Usually I burn about a quarter tank of gasoline a week. It seems that the car is set to EV mode so I haven't used any gas that, at least, I can tell from the guage. I also have the digital rear view mirror, which I'm not using because the image is just too sharp. The 1080p bright rear images are super clear.
Idk what is happening but Lexus/Toyota have been recalling their newer models. Lexus issued a recall order for the 2022 NX SUVs because their front shock absorbers can detach, potentially causing drivers to lose control. Also, an issue with the parking brake: the brake actuator assembly may erroneously trigger a fail-safe mode that prevents drivers from engaging or disengaging the parking brake. The NHTSA oversaw these issues of course. Tens of thousands of models were recalled.
The age of mythical "reliability" is over, no other appeal here.
Fortunately my 2020 Camry XSE v6 isn’t affected
That was last winter, 100 NXs from Japan were recallef
@@rosgoncharuk2403 It's not mythical. It's actual. Toyotas are mostly reliable and that includes Lexus. There are some quality control issues and they're no perfect. But they are still quite reliable overall.
@@benjaminsmith2287 Which equates to them being a boring car to own. No excitement, just dull, and not much to look at.
Great review! Reconfirmed my choice of RAV4 instead of NX. Happy New Year.
The nx reconfirms my choice of a Camry v6 over the nx
Rav 4 Hybrid is not a PHEV. I have a Rav 4 Hybrid Limited on order and a NX350h on order. No comparison in ride quality and comfort...and sound. In Canada a Rav 4 Ltd Hybrid is 51 000 delivered, the NX350h is 58 000 delivered.
You sir have obviously Not driven the 450h+ "F" SPORT....your ignorance is showing!!!!
@@donaldbanner2185 considering it’s not faster than a rav4 prime yet it doesn’t really handle better and it has a noisy 4 cylinder, why bother? If I drove it and compared it to my Toyota it would be a downgrade
Mark trying to hold it together after Jacks SuperLaggera comment!! 😂😂😂😂
The current trend of high beltlines and small windows is not my thing. Not only does it look artificially "sporty" but the visibility out of the vehicles is horrible compared to more conventional proportions.
Lexus can’t stop with the piano gloss black.
WRONG My 450h+ F Sport has all carbon fiber where the black is on most!
Don't worry, I am sure eventually global design command will relay a new instruction and then it'll be all piano dark gray plastic.
Same price as the GX ! Bloody hell!
NX450h+ = 2500KG
Rav 4 PHEV = 2155KG
Tucson PHEV = 1900KG
Is it me or is this thing too heavy?
Lexus NX 450h Plus or the Mercedes GLC plug-in hybrid for 80% city driving? For the rest of the time we do 10% trails and 10% going on vacation on high distance.
Really disappointing this didn't have a larger sunroof, the Venzas prime is already on the way and I still think it's a better choice.
All steel suspension with fully serviceable arms 🤤. Relatively cool and reliable NA engine. Gearless, beltless automatic that won't burn friction discs. What is it if not a definition of reliable car that you could service and drive for decades?
Yes probably longer reliability but how long will you keep it before you want something newer..... that's what happened to me with my Camry. Got board of it and desired another.
@@michaelvella8511 got "board" of it? 😊
@@michaelvella8511 , I don't see any reason why simple comfy daily commuter could bore you, I mean it's must be boring by design. It's just need to drive you from A to B without headaches and with a maximum comfort. If you seek driving pleasure, you need to have dedicated sports car. Daily and pleasure are very hard (at least very expensive) to combine, I've tried.
Put your money where your mouth is
@@michaelvella8511 IT'S about RE-Sale value dummy!
Lexus makes some great product, this one is not one of them.
It would be fine if we called it a Toyota, slap the Lexus branding, charge an extra $15k and it's just not reasonable.
Now Lexus isn’t making great products. The LC is their only best one right now
are you Naveens other account?
@@mikej238 😂😂
@@mikej238 ??
@@naveenthemachine I like several of there cars
In my opinion, you must drive the F-Sport version if you want to review the NX450H+. I have 4K miles on mine and I only have one complain: interior materials are cheap and scratch easily.
But everyone will say it’s a Lexus. It has higher quality materials than anything else 😂
@naveenthemachine That's what I thought too ... Lexus really needs to improve in that area.
My 450h+ "F" Sport has ALL carbon fiber and Not piano Plastic...........VERY NICE INDEED!!!
How does it handle on snow, given that front and rear feel so disconnected, which I am interpreting as less competent AWD? Is it even suitable for the snow belts of North America?
Nice Review. Waiting for 2023 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV review. Is there anything planned for that already?
I'm plugged 24/7 personally.
What a waste. Cars are meant to be driven every now and then.
with a fox, wolf, or cat tail?
The door handle system is a pain in the a** ? Next to the plastic door handle of the UX and ES, it is a great system in my opinion.
We got the same system in the LBX in Europe.
Great review, love the paint!
It's strange that a car that costs 60K would have a dashboard completely covered in urethane and not a single leather stitch. That's really interesting!
When you sit in it it's much more premium then it appears and is very well built, It didn't feel any less premium then an x5 45e I sat in for comparison but did feel worse then the Audi and especially Genesis GV80
So it's literally an overpriced rav4 with less room and a more pain in the ass UX overall. I'm sold.
great if you live in an apartment with no off street charging or are uncrtain about owning an all electric vehicle
Yet another YT video on this that doesn't talk about availability. Many brands' PHEVs and full EVs are only available in the 11 zev states, this included. Toyota and the Korean trio are some, yet no youtuber ever states this in their videos of those vehicles. It's very important information to get out there, and they omit it every time.
Good review, but I'm surprised you didn't mention the XC60 Recharge, as they both run similar types of Plug In Hybrid implementations (ability to run "pure mode", similar AWD systems) and are priced similarly. Although that being said, the RX (when it comes out) will be a more direct competitor with the XC60 than this.
Lexus made a mistake making the NX too tiny.
@@michaelvella8511 no they didn't - if you wanted something larger, you move up to the RX and of course, pay more.
@@Trades46 ICYDK the new RX actually shrank inside both legroom and headroom
Mark did mention Volvo but not in a positive way. He said the front end and back end are disconnected which reminds him of Volvo.
@@benjaminsmith2287 he also said the older recharges, probably the ones with the supercharger/turbo combo. We have a 2023 XC60 Recharge and everything feels really well connected and intuitive, at least in our layman's eyes. We're extremely happy with our purchase.
Why should Lexus make their own platforms when they already have arguably the best ones that they (keep in mind) codevelop with Toyota and Lexus isn’t 100% focused on driving dynamics yes they factor that In but most Lexus shoppers aren’t looking for the best handling they want something that’s more luxurious/fancy than a Toyota and will still last unlike most of its competitors
These days lexus isn’t more luxurious than a Toyota. Except the LC and ES
Also if Acura and genesis can make better unique bespoke platforms why can’t Lexus?
What about the non-plugin hybrid? It's cheaper without much compromise.
Your comments regarding this being built on a "lesser" platform (and the Rav4) brings to mind a thought that I have had as I shop for a new vehicle....how much are we compromising for better fuel economy?
The answer is literally everything
Wait wait, the RDX has better materials than this?! But i thought Acura is technically a premium brand, not a luxury brand so they typically cheap out on some materials🤔
I like this, but I find it odd that you cannot get the Mark Levinson sound system in this trim, and I think the infotainment screen looks like the Guardian of Forever from Star Trek.
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Inb4 themed infotainment with voice output.
Cant find one without a huge markup right now. Patiently waiting.
Just wait until the Ukraine war is over. Can't be more than 20 years.
How is the headspace for taller people? I'm 6'2" and the RX is over my budget!~
Nice going jack...
I am on my 450+ for three months now and I’m actually selling it because I cannot stand the electronic doorhandles
It’s the answer to the problem that nobody had. This is an issue with higher-end cars in general - too much complicated crap, and it’s all going to be very expensive when it breaks.
@@bobcoats2708 not many high end cars like bmw or genesis or Audi have this
@@naveenthemachine It seems to be the latest trend that, sadly, I think we’re going to see more of. Though my comment was about the over-complication of higher-end vehicles in general.
@@naveenthemachine how do you know? You drive a Camry.
@@mikej238 jokes on you my 2020 Camry v6 is a lot less complex than the nx. It doesn’t have electronic door handles. Or touch sensitive steering wheel controls. Or a joystick shifter like the Prius. Plus the Camry still has physical buttons and knobs for everything from audio to climate control to having a proper Home Screen.
The spindle grill has never been good. At one point it at least had newness going for it. That was what, 2015?
Can you compare the engineering between BMW hybrid and Lexus hybrid?
I'd have argued this is much less a lexus RAV4, and more a lexus venza. and funnily enough, with the e-awd talk, the NX450h+ is actually the same base MSRP as a V60 recharge in canada, to qualify for govn't incentives. sadly, both cars take premium.
Love that colour
60k? Might as well get an RDX or X3 both my fav cars. I know no hybrid but they need to do better
I’d rather get an is500 for the same price. You get a v8
I will not buy a Lexus because they only install run flat tires that I will never buy, Michelin regular tires with a spare tire and Jack is what I want. A quality tire providing the best possible ride that gives you the smoothest ride and a quieter cabin.
Toyota/Lexus only have 1 rear drive unibody TNGA platform which is GA-L (LS/LC/Mirai/S220 Crown) and nothing for the compact RWD segment or other segments, I guess that's why when they updated the IS it is still on old 3rd gen IS platform, don't know why they can't just shrink the GA-L platform like before when the GS was still around maybe because Toyota side don't need it since GR86 is not on a Toyota platform also it is too small to be IS or a rear drive based NX. They are not gonna use Supra's BMW platform to build an IS and NX off of. But then again the NX using the GA-K rav4 platform gives lexus more money to spend on other shit on the NX which is a good thing.
So then why get an nx? Just get a rav4 limited. Same car cheaper as luxurious and more space
i only spent this much on my highlander hybrid lol, dealerships are so bad when you have no option and short notice. at least i killed them on the interest (2.75)
On a 2 year waiting list
Old lady car!
The Lexus NX competes in the Compact Premium SUV segment. According to data collected from verified new-vehicle buyers for the J.D. Power 2021 Automotive Performance, Execution and Layout (APEAL) Study, 59 percent of new Lexus NX buyers are female (vs. 47 percent for the segment), and the median age of an NX buyer is 61 years (vs. 60).
"Great I will buy one Jus for the Female Hussel / Sex I will get!
@@donaldbanner2185 sure, if you are glif! Lol!
Not sure about the high beltline claustrophobia comment, when you have the seat down as far as it will go and you clearly have 8-12 inches of headroom from your skull to the roof liner. Raise your seat up, man. I had zero visibility or hemmed in feelings with the 2023 350h loaner I recently drove. Our 450h+ is on order.
I'll take Lexus reliability and efficiency over MB, BMW, Hyundai, Volvo or Acura driving dynamics any day. I'm not taking my luxury SUV to the track.
Thanks for the informed review. Good work.
Naw man Toyotas/lexus AREN'T known to be the most spacious. My family sold their 07 CRV and got a 18 Rav4, one of the things i hate abt it was how cramped it felt when i sat in the front, and the glove box would hit my knees when i would open it (in my ideal seating position as a 5.5ft person mind you)
You just never been in other rivals, like the RDX, it's a night and difference in the RDX vs NX. The only toyota/lexus i felt was decent in space is the new grand highlander/TX, and the toyota sienna
@Stefin770 I have been in most competitor SUVs. Question. Just what are you doing in these vehicles that you need so much room? I value reliability and great gas mileage over having room to change pants or whatever you are needing to do in your land yacht of choice. RDX fuel economy sucks and transmissions are notoriously weak. Each to his own I guess.
@@rickb296 well man it's just when u come from a spacious vehicle to a less spacious vehicle, u typically miss how "airy" the other one felt
@@rickb296 True, the RDX does have terrible fuel economy
hey. do you’ll expect an all new NX for 2025?
How long would it take getting that $10k overpaid for this car back in fuel economy savings?
I think it’s more like 20k because the nx plug in has lots of markups like the rav4 prime
With the power of fool ecomomy, immediately.
Does it still snap oversteer? A reminder for everyone that the mechanically identical RAV4 Prime is pretty much the only modern car to repeatedly fail the moose test, including after Toyota said they fixed ESC calibration.
The stability control is different. It will not allow for enough front understeer to snap correct like I saw on RAV4. But it was also way different conditions than last time
@@savagegeese Hopefully Km77 can get their hands on one soon.