Explosion tuyau 2ieme etage détendeur : incident de plongee.
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2018
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Explosion en début de plongée du tuyau basse pression ( 20 Bars) du détendeur
Dive master / Badladz dive shop Puerto galera Philippines /Mindoro .
This same thing just happened to a lady at the local quarry. Unfortunately she was a brand new diver still learning. She ended up on the surface calling for help and scared. This is a good video as an example of dealing with this situation in a calm manner.
no theres nothing good about this example. calm yes. the rest - rubbish.
Ok he is calm but the standard procedure is just to ascent while your buddy provides you with air (if necessary, because the tank needs some minutes to empty).
There is no reason to remove his wing. He obviously knows exactly what the problem is and he knows that he dive is over even if he manage to stop the leak.... The rest is just show off!
Also Is more easy to ascent while wearing the wing, so there is no reason to remove it underwater in this case
I agree with the previous answers, remove the bcd could be more dangerous, depending on the weight distribution, the wing could go up and the diver go down
le calme du mec 👌
Nice dive máster reaction! Keeping calm and chilling the other divers from panic, even when his tank was gasping for air!!
I understand why he took his BC off; he wanted to see what was happening. That doesn't make it the best move, there's nothing you can do anyway on a single cylinder, and it will give you difficulties later. The considered actions for me would be to check SPG and how fast it's dropping, accept alternate air source from buddy, hold onto each other, ascend at once. Don't take your BC off, that just task-loads you and occupies what should be free hands, and it will help control your rate of ascent even if the cyl runs dry as you are of course letting air out. They didn't look that deep, certainly less than 20m, so ascent should not be a drama. Stabilise at 5m and pop the DSMB if required. HP leaks always look spectacular but the actual volume of gas escaping may not be that great. However, it could have been a major internal failure of the 1st stage and it may have rapidly ceased to supply the 2nd stage; I've seen that happen. So do the easiest thing - just take someone's octo and go up.
alot of MAMA DRAMA at 20 meter he should have about 6-7 mins before he run out of gas he could just go to 6 meter stop deploy smb and keep . breathing it with alternative of another diver in his hand ready to switch
a smarter move would be at 6 meter bring the wing in front of and further the tanks on and off ..... that will last for another 30 mins at 6 meters and enjoy the drift
Tim Gosling amine ur the men
Totally agree with you. Look at spg, immediate accent. Too much faffing about. He stayed calm which was good.
I agree
I think he took his BC because the other guys didn't know how to tell him the situatuion, so he decided to see with his own eyes, but you are right.
The beeping noise meant that the oven was almost ready for the cake
Hahaha perfect comment
😄
Safe up to the surface, good job. The only thing I'd do different would be not taking off the BCD and breathing off my own gas supply for as long as it provides gas with buddies standing by with alternate. There's no need to exhaust someone's elses' gas if you still have your own, even if it's leaking this heavily. You wait till you run out and you switch, not a problem.
The description says it happened at the begining of the dive. Take the octopus, plenty of time to go to the surface with 2 people breathing on the same tank.
The video shows that an alarm was sounding, possibly a deep-sea diver. Obviously the end of the dive came due to a catastrophic loss of air, there is no need to waste so much time removing equipment when his buddy was offering him the octupus.
@@PanamaDiveAdventure yep the alarm was maybe for a deco stop ;) they may have not planed this issue and do not have enough air to make it with the right deco time at the surface 🧐. ( Maybe )
Else i think u should just take ur budy octopus , do ur safety stop and back to surface saflely
I just got my Open Water Cert.......This was absolutely great to watch. Keeping calm is key!
OK, let's try from a different angle :-) Which training agency says that for a burst "O-ring" you remove the kit, turn it off, grab a buddies octopus and ascent without holding on to each other and not bothering to check contents or depth gauges? This guy was calm and they presumably all got out safely, but I'm not sure it's a "good example" of what to do. Personally, this happened to my buddies HP hose at 30m - quite a few bubble and a gauge reading zero - I held onto him and he kept on breathing from his primary while holding my octopus. We made a normal slow ascent watching our depth gauges. Was a lot slower and more boring, but ultimately felt very safe for both of us.
I actually think he behaved like a prime dick! Cockiness can get you killed. After identifying the issue if is reg was still functional (no reason why it should not be if it was tank o'ring) he should have continued using it till his tank was empty keeping his buddy close. The scuba unit should have been put back on (if it needed to be taken off in the first place), there was far to much multi tasking going on on the ascent (AAS use, carrying scuba unit, deploying SMB, safety stop etc). Switching air on and off as has been suggested, could allow water to enter the first stage making it unusable.
Great reply. Always want to watch these situations to anticipate what people will do wrong and hear from divers that had similar situations and did it correctly.
I totally agree. Nothing in the way he dealt with that made sense to me. Except that he kept composed of course. Feels like he was showing off to be honest.
Totally agree, he could have potential put the other divers in risk by being a twat. Check spg, accend with buddy. It was that simple. Although his calmness was quite good.
@@jonathanhall-smith9577 alternate air source is the safest way to ascend in problem situations. maybe you think it was unnecessary, but better safe than sorry
Impresive how he kept calm, congratulations and thanks for sharing the video.
Dude everything was terrible done
The stroke dude should have not take the single mount wing off but signal help to his diving body then receiving the body gas supply assessed the situation which was a failure somewhere on the first stage turn off the cycling 👈🏻 ascent end of the dive easy of course but with padi strokes that’s what happened
ego pride lacks in knowledge
Not impressed
to me he should go flip burgers at Mc Donald’s
This is a video in which you can see how you should not do it
Muy buena reacción del chico. Se nota que és un profesional. Bravo!!
Ils sont tous restés parfaitement calmes. Bravo.
He was like: "aight bro chill, i got this"
Aljaž Gasperin haha i love your comment
I had the same issue at the beginning of a dive with a quite new equipment. The sound of the bubbles is a reminder that something is going wrong...
How ever anyone would react in this situation he survived and ready to dive another day thought we was all brothers in arms in this game
une belle démonstration de sang froid ! l'intérêt d'avoir des blocs à double sortie pour 2 détendeurs !
j ai eu un problème d écriture, juste pour dire que le gars n a pas à enlever sa stab , son binôme ferme le robinet et lui propose son détendeur de secours et ils remontent tous les 2 à la vitesse préconisée et ils finissent en faisant les paliers .
Pour moi, le gars a voulu faire le beau.
Su tranquilidad ante esta grave falla demuestra su experiencia...
Great, good job 👏👏👏👏
Cool this man 👍
Excellent
"c'est prévu, tout est sous contrôle!" le mec qui gère comme un ouf, j'adore.
Pas trop bien géré je crois
Bah en faites c'est juste fin de plongée et il faut remonter en surveillant son mano . Le reste c'est du cinéma.....
way to remain calm, proud of you guys
with better equiment was better no?
Ok, mr youtube instructor. Next time this hapens to you, yo do what you want. Thise guy, he did what he had to do. Maybe is not the best solution ( i don't know witch is the best one), but it is a solution.
100% agree - It is easy to point out mistakes and say should have done this or that from the comfort of your chair and watching it on screen - I commend this guy for remaining calm throughout the whole ordeal...
This situations are good for learning. I think it's better to discuss what would be the best solution in any situation. Learning from mistakes made by us and others its what makes diving safer.
I was an instructor, and this happened to my buddy also. It caught me off guard because I was totally unaware that o-rings could break underwater, and my solution was not optimal either. I gave her my octopus, closed her valve to lower the stress caused by the bubbles, and started the ascent.. but later struck me that it wasn't the most comfortable position that I had to inflate her BCD orally at the surface.
In retrospective, perhaps a better approach would've been to reopen the valve just before hitting the surface, but more experienced divers could give their take on the best path of action for this scenario.
Did everything end up ok?
Impressionnant.
Great DM job
he stopped, thought and solved the problem in a safe way... not the best possible, but with success - very educational!
André Nikisch
What will be the best according to you?
@@BajaSurf open the harness belt to let the rig come loose (not off), shutting down the valve, breathing from buddy`s octopus and surfacing. without buddies: shutting down the valve, keep it in hand and open the valve just for inhalation, surfacing.
bravo
Stayed Calm..cool
Enlever la stab c'est moyen. S'en occuper et délaisser le 3eme plongeur(qui gére pas trop sa stab apparement) c'est plus que moyen. J'aurais tranquillement pris le premier octo qu'on me tendait et on serait remontés tranquilou a 3. Autant je peux comprendre la casse matériel, autant l'attitude qui peut conduire au sur-accident pas du tout.
Carrement ...
Eviter de perdre la stab ...
Et pour flotter en surface ??!?!?...
Minable
Et pas de parachute pour la remontée
Son air est perdu donc perdu pour perdu pourquoi ne pas la respirer ? Ils sont sur une dizaine de mètres. Beaucoup d'agitation pour rien...🙄 apparemment
And yes. Make sens to take your wing out to check what's going on. If it is the valve or the o ring, you can "throtlle" the valve, so you can breath from your own reg.
is that a Scubapro regulator?? Holly *****
Quite a common occurance where the O ring on the tank gives way, the DM is good!
Bonjour,
Très intéressant. Avez-vous confirmé par la suite que le problème venait du tuyau basse pression ?
En tout cas le DM reste très calme.
bjr oui tuyau explose/mauvais entretien du materiel/a -10m C ETAIT PAS GRAVE .. juste pour montrer
Je vais bientôt faire l acquisition d un bloc perso. Je pense opter pour doubles sorties qui peux palier aux soucis du genre. On est jamais trop prudent. Bon on voit bien qu ils restent calme et ne sont pas profond. Par contre j aurais pas retiré la stab.
Oui il a explose
@@yanntrip2324 bjr pas de souci on était juste 3dm en début de plongée ... Club chinois aux phils
..matos use.....
@@yanntrip2324 La double sortie ne règle pas le problème d'un flexible MP qui casse car une bouteille se vide en un temps record et il vous faudra fermer le robinet ce qui n'est pas évident car non accessible facilement. Par expérience l'idéal c'est une bouteille de 6 à 9 litres en plus que vous positionnez sur le coté qui vous permettra d'effectuer votre remontée même avec de nombreux paliers.
That sharky seems to enjoying the bubbles.
Wow, the many kinds of fish
Flipao!!!
Олимпийское спокойствие!
This is why you have a buddy
I assume it was yiok reg so o ring failed...form the other hand what is all the ''expert'' comments of what he should or shouldnt do. Obviously, the guy was experienced enough, calm enough to sort the problem out in the best possible manner. I didn't see any panic, and if anything else he was a bit of a show off...Now any other comment on how he should act or not is the opinion of ''I know better'' people...
le plus simple une bouteille avec 2 entrée pour les 2 détendeurs, c est ce que j ai; malheureusement a l etranger ils n ont pas tous ce genre de robinet
Il a géré la situation parfaitement même si son binôme n'a pas fait se qu'il fallait faire. Bravo
Non, il n'y avait aucune raison d'enlever son équipement.
Pourquoi tout ce cinéma. Fin de plongée et Il remonte comme ça c'est tout
J'aurais surtout bien aimer voir son équipement avant d'aller à l'eau ( Din déserrez du corps du detendeur....🤔)
Aww, that´s why you check your O-Rings before each dive and make sure the din is screwed in securely! Furthermore you should have two individual first stages, so you can close the one which is leaking gas... In germany two stages is almost the default configuration, i would guess only ~30% of people dive with a single first stage here.
Rental cylinders generally only have one connection for a 1st stage. Many still use Yoke. If you're putting together your own single cylinder I would agree that a dual connector is preferable, since it also allows you to switch your setup to twins or sidemount pretty easily.
Two first stages is only mandatory for level 4 FFESSM, don't know about the other organizations though
i don't understand, why all tanks over the world in warm seas have just one valve with one first stage connected on. in our lakes though, two of them are mounted and i am trained to close the affected valve running through a shutdown process. therefore, the problem is solved in a few seconds and i am prepared to ascend safely, including decompression stops if needed.
Nice job! I see now ( especially by some comments here) that being Millenial is a state of mind - not an age.
Hmmm.... most important part would be to monitor his own contents gauge, as no immediate danger. Once he'd decided to remove the kit he may as well have just inflated it and sent it up - things would have been less confusing with fewer bubbles and both hands free. Well done for keeping calm though.
I can see where you are coming from with this, I would counter by saying by keeping it and shutting it down, he still had access to the gas as well the bc. I also didn't see an issues caused by the bubbles but the diver try and work the problem in a controlled calm manner. I personally liked the bit he told one of the other divers to calm down ha ha
Why send up $1500 worth of gear for no reason only to never see it again? Don the gear, accept alternate air source, secure faulty air source, and terminate dive.
@@ajfuscg "Never see it again" - do you not dive with surface cover? Does your BCD not float? If the kit isn't helping you, then it's hindering you - in this instance the guy is preoccupied with the kit and not communicating or even checking gauges (didn't see him check depth, or look at the rescuers gas gauge) - nobody is securely holding him - he's in a world of his own doing his own thing - which luckily worked. His "rescuer" seems to be looking the opposite direction most of the time. IMHO, if the pair just held onto each other and ascended, then it could have been a lot calmer for all involved.
@@JohnPaulGreenwood you may not be near your surface support, there could be currents taking your gear away, and a myriad of other issues in which you couldn't recover your gear. What's more important, recovering divers and staying on scene until everyone's recovered, or chasing down a BCD?
You forget that the backplate with tank attached provides him with neutral buoyancy under water (as i can see he didn't wear any weight belt). By releasing it to the surface, his buoyancy will become positive and the ascent process will become difficult (but not impossible).
I'm a very unexperienced diver, but why does he not have an separate first stage? I learned to always use a separate first stage. Of course this was mainly because of risk of icing in German lakes but wouldn't it always be a good idea to have this redundancy? I mean, this would have solved this problem within a few seconds.
Lots of dive centers with rental gear have 1 valve. So 1 first stage
Everyone reacts differently in high stress situations, it's easy to watch, analyse and critique after the fact. All in all there really was no danger and no risk since there are 2 working scuba tanks and 3 people. At 50 to 60' deep, it's a manageable situation, they rose to the surface which is the ultimate goal at that point. I feel he had plenty of time to put his BCD back on though so that it freed up his hands. I also don't feel he should have shut off his tank valve. Twice in fact. He should have continued to try to breathe from his tank until the SPG read too low. So a few things there could have been improved. But no one here was in any danger!
Oddly, people usually do exactly as they have being trained for in emergency cases, because it is the only automatic reaction they can have.
In this case, the guy might be too calm, that’s why he tries to fix his supply underwater… Maybe they were not that deep and far from NDL.
Personally, A slow and safe ascent on my buddy’s octopus is rhe only action I could think of.
Looks like an high pressure faillure as there is only an limited amount of gas leaking. With a full tank it takes about 30 minutes before your tank runs dry. Just let it bubble, start your ascent, do your stops with time to spair. No worries but put that thing on your back before you lose it.
HY YES no trouble was close surface and beginning of dive
We have no idea about his experience level. We do know he appeared to be calm. We don't know during what part of the dive the o-ring failed. It appeared he was asking where the boat was and clearly headed against the current to go what he thought was towards it. That MAY mean they were not at the beginning of the dive. They all should have headed against the current at the beginning of the dive. As a recipient I'm not letting go of my donor ever (I would have turned off my first stage, held my BC by one of it's shoulder straps and it's inflator hose to dump air as necessary during the accent). The pressure changes are greater at shallower depths. Any number of additional bad circumstances could have come upon them. Finally the rules of physics and our anatomies don't care how many dives we have. They apply to all equally. If you post a diving video on YT you will be critiqued!
Exactly right. Focus on your connection with your donor and monitor your accent speed. You can always return on a later date for the gear if needed or even ask someone to get it on their dive. Your life (and that of your donor) is number one priority.
Just curious what's your training level.
he's experienced all right...most of the know it all divers commenting here would have freaked out. He 's almost teaching in real situation here...
👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Anyone can me explain what is the minishark that he have on the BCD? Where can I get one of that? Thankyou for share the video!
That thing will just create one more snag point in your gear, avoid. Use your money and time to buy spare o-rings and check it before the dive instead 😁👌
the shark cutoff the hose, 100%
Doesn’t matter what language you speak it’s all the same underwater. The only thing I see is they should have locked arms or held onto each other in some way . But impressive calmness.
Très mauvais moniteur qui par fierté a très très mal géré ce soucis au risque de faire prendre des risque d'accidents aux autres plongeurs. Moniteur à fuir sans ménagement.
Like a boss I mean! Great job!!
Don’t be such haters, his "arrogance” I believe was just him telling his buddies all is ok no reason to panic, and as any diver should know, problems that could be solved at depth should. Might save the dive.
Was it the best move to remove bcd? Maybe, maybe not. There was no immediate danger and no panic so why not check if it’s something that can be solved under water?
It was clear to me that these two divers where not overloaded with tasks, they where at their safety stop when camera man bolted to surface.wetsuit provides ample boyancy without weights at surface so no obvious risk of drowning .
Could he have solved it differently? Yeah sure
Ça ça m’est déjà arrivé j’avais 14 ans avec mon père et l’incident s’est passé sur son bloc au début c’était impressionnant puis nous avons partagé mon bloc nous étions à 30 mètres heureusement nous étions en descente dont il restait assez d’air pour deux.
30 m à 14ans ?
@@thaurmx766
J'ai fait ma formation premier niveau (20m) avec deux gamins de 12 ans. Je trouve ça aberrant que ce soit légal, pour moi, la plongée, ça ne devrait pas être avant 18 ans.
@@shizukagozen777 c'est vrai que la plongée c'est rapidement très dangereux si on a pas la maturité nessesaire, je pense que pour le premier niveau 16ans serai le minimum
@@thaurmx766
16 ans vraiment au minimum, mais je trouve que 18 c'est quand même mieux pour une activité aussi dangereuse, même à 20m, c'est trop risqué avec des gosses.
Doesn’t matter what language it’s in. Danger is universally understood
Definitely not going diving with this guy👌 all the wrong things even though he stayed calm
Contrary to some comments below, this was not well handled. If he had checked his SPG he would have known he had a blow out. Wasted time removing BCD when he should have ascended immediately with buddy offering up alternate and then taken that before his tank drained.
0:46
Explosion here
I see a lot of incidents: camera man is skip breathing, camera men does not understand basic scuba signs, camera man panics, camera man does not control ascent (true danger!), camera man breaks surface without a buoy with ships in the area (true danger!). The camera man acts like a novice and should have been able to make an autonomous save ascent from 10 to 15 meter. And yes, a HP hose broke. That diver stayed calm, did everything right and even managed to surface a buoy while on an octopus. No real incident here though he should have had a 2 valve/ 2 first stage to complete is Hogathian equipment.
He was lucky enough because current wasn't strong. Must lock arms with the air donor and never try to fix air leak underwater.
This happened when my instructor teach me about compas. When i perform it and boom, like someone punch my back head.
Everyone's an expert on youtube 🧐. Did they do everything correctly? probably not, but no matter what there's always some armchair expert who would be able to "accurately" critique the most textbook of emergency procedures. Most important thing here is he didn't panic.
il reste calme bravo; pour le reste c'est du grand n'importe quoi! pourquoi enleve t il sa stab? son binome lui file son detendeur de secours, il ferme le bloc et hop surface tranquillement/ là il complique tout et la dame qui sort son parachute, sur une remontée assistée! alors qu'il y a du monde autour pour le faire
Le mec avec la fuite demande qu on ferme sa bouteille , mais les autres ont 2 de tensions et doit se demerder tout seul .. bravo pour le calme
@@floriangeradon9745 mon analyse est la suivante:
-il montre qu'il a fuite à tout le groupe
- il enlève la stab pour Fermer la bouteille
- fait signe de remonter et prend l'octopus de son équipié
Mais ils ne se tiennent pas
Ou alors encore plus simple : fin de plongée et il remonte.😉
Il a de l'air, il va bien, ils sont qu'à 10 mètres et l'air de son bloc est de toute façon perdu.
Il demandera de l'air éventuellement quand son mano lui donnera 20 b....
Keeping calm is important, the second person could have held him so he doesn't drift away. and the cameraman has yet to learn how to keep control over emergence.
WHY? keep control for what ??
i was the cameraman .... i was just a customer / dive master diving in a chinese dive center ... with 2 other dives masters.... not deep, nothing dangerous... the 2 DM working there managed well their trouble...
they showed me not to help them !
i didn t needed to act more than just film this event.
I just put this movie because was worried by this Dive center who asked me more equipment than necessary ( 2 full regulators / when you travel far by plane difficult to get all heavy equipment ..... ) So they worried me about my equipment who was in perfect state and full efficient ... and their in dive center was poor and like wreck ....So it is just a movie to show than may be one good regulator is better than 2 bad !!! AFTER COVID this dive center was closed .
i m happy if so many visitors like this movie and write lot of advices there ...But divers please look other movies there some are really more nice fun and exciting .... than this incident of poorly maintained equipment
Est-ce que quelqu'un peut m'expliquer ce qu'il s'est passé (explosion du tuyau basse pression ?). Je passe mon N2 et j'apprécie ce genre de mise en situation ;)
Merci !
Oui une avarie quelconque sur le premier étage ( plutôt entre le robinet et le detendeur). Beaucoup d'agitation pour pas grand chose et tous ceci c'est un peu n'importe quoi...🙄 ils peuvent remonter comme ça !
Avec cette équipements ( S80 et un detendeur), ils ne devraient pas être très profond et plongée sans plalier et il respire normalement
Le mieux c'est d'avoir deux detendeurs et de fermer celui en avarie 🤷♀️
C'est arrivé a un collegue recement lorsque l'on assemblait notre materiel. Lors de la mise sous pression sa durite HP a pété. Il était très a cheval sur le service de ces détendeur, mais ne faisais pas attention a ces durites, heureusement on était au sec.
La durite avait lacher juste après l'attache en metal.
Quand on travail comme plongeur, il faut vraiment changer ces durites au moins tout les 2 ans pour éviter ce genre de surprise.
Pourquoi pas tout les six mois 😁
Belle gestion en tout cas, je souhaite faire aussi bien si ça m'arrive un jour. Perso je n'aurai pas decapellé, j'aurais d'abord pris loctopus de mon binôme puis j'aurais géré la fermeture du bloc. Et le parachute dans cette situation c'est vraiment Superflu et facteur de sur accident.
regarder se qui ce passe en début de plonger et humain et pas très risquer mais qu'il contrôle ça fuite avant de faire signe je vais me débrouiller et qu'il prenne un octopus que on lui présente d'abord puis il regarde il fermes et remet sa stab et il remonte gentiment accrocher a son binôme et si ils ont le temps le parachute dans certain cas pas du luxe
mais pas en tenant ça stab a une main
Bonjour OUI vous etes tout a fait 100 % dans le vrai .Merci
je pense qu'a aucun moment il ne dois enlever sa stab.... même fermer le bloc ca sert a rien, mieux vaut 3 personnes en sécurité que de l'eau dans un bloc... il devais prendre le détendeur de secoure de l'autre plongeuse et gérer la remonter avec son gilet a elle... il s'en sort bien mais de la a dire qu'il na pas fait d'erreur....
As someone said, too much drama in the comments. We all learnt during OW to remove and put back a BCD at depth. And we (should) all regularly practice the skill so what’s the fuss? Unlike what a commenter said, the bip sound has nothing to do with a fast ascent speed. It is bipping from the beginning of the video even when the diver is descending. Don’t know what it is but definitely not fast ascent. Closing a leaking valve is also standard practice for some professionals before ascending but not for rec divers. I once met a tec diver who closed his valve at 20 meters before doing a CESA and when I asked him why he did that he told me that he was a professional, did not want to scare the customers with the bubbles and that he was trained for that (he had no buddy this day but the site was busy). No one would expect the commenters here to have this kind of skills. What is standard for rec diving and accepted is one first stage and two second stages. Ok two first stages is better but two cylinders is even better. And why not a pony bottle and a stage bottle for all rec divers for full redundancy? The only thing which is no longer accepted is a single second stage. I think that a lot of criticism are based on the limited knowledge of ‘’ I know better because I have had the best training’’ type of rec divers commenting without knowing the facts. They are the ones who really want to show their knowledge off :-).
HY thznks for your words ..I M "the cameraman" of this movie and i m so surprised by all reactions about this simple movie who looks like exercise ... i made dozen of other movies .. some of them really "WTF" ... but just some visitors for them....and that movie who is just result of a poor equimpent maintenance in a chinese dive center make thousands views !!! NOTHING was bad in this movie = i was DM customer and it was 2 dm WORKING THERE for that dive = YES NOISE IS SOUND OF CAMERA and may be too computer who ring for +/- 1 m change .. BUT WAS CLOSE SURFACE and all was great . ENJOY YOUR DIVES .
Poor floaties got blown 😋
Remettre sur le dos et remonté avec binome plus proche pour l octo
C est clair
Deja on se tient avec le binome
On fait signe pour avoir le detendeur de secours .
On stop la plongee on remonte
Et on garde le bloc sur le dos
Ca évitera de le perdre sur une fausse manip...
Et en surface on gonfle son gilet .
Vraiment de la merde cette plongée ...
Les tuyaux était vieux ?
je pense
Too much drama. Suggestions for new divers: 1. REMAIN CALM 2. Remember your training. 3. DO NOT PANIC. Even if your source of air totally failed you have your buddy with octo. Grab his octo, slowly go up. Diagnose issue on a surface. 4. Get your own regulators, bcd's, spg's computer. Maintain and service it properly.
I don't know if he is the DM but as mentioned by others there is a couple of problems in his reaction. First of all the guy who is filming is totally freaking out, he is going to fast and ends up on surface before the releasing of the smb.
Second thing the guy unset his gear without checking his SPG, I would say that first of all is checking how much air you have and how fast you are losing air to react properly. One time he unset there is no sense to go up carrying his gear. Trying to deploy smb without his gear on his back (and refusing the octo of a buddy/customer) is the reason why all the divers are such splited
Yes, every1 can be smart in front of his monitor watching that video. Imagine that maybe all those guys (accept DM maybe) are fresh OWD divers... that could explain that situation.
@@tooper4616 it's always easy to answer from a computer but those videos should also be used as a way to train "what should I do in that case". The objective is not to blame the DM but learn from his mistakes.
Did he teach chuck norris the diving? 😅
Hi I bet the O ring blew out
Wow! Look at how many people are pretending to be experts in the comment section.
YES 1000 % true ...BETTER TO SEE OTHER MOVIES THERE LIKE MARINE LIFE .....ENJOY
Taking BCD off was the wrong thing to do. Should have been accending immediately, he put two other people's lives at risk by messing about like he was in a kids playground.
I disagree. Fortunately there was no weight issue (thick buoyant neoprene vs weighted BCD). I would of continued using the reg (and put it back on my back with my buddy nearby - looking at SPG would give you an idea if you would need his octo, and then using buddy oct once tank is dry) alternatively, and less advised , I would shut off the reg (creating so much bubbles, no one can see anything) and used the buddy. No point using SMB, just sling the reg back on- less task loading).
Why would he take his BCD off? Just makes him more unstable and busy, and there is not much he can do about it anyway. It would make sense if he has been too far from his buddy to find the emergency reg, in order to close and open the tank sequentially to win some air time, but it wasn't the case at all.
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Can someone plz tell me what the beeping means
dive computer
sound od camera+ BIP for computer alarm because we were very close surface ( less than 10 M) and every +/- 1 m send alarm sound with this computer when you re in decomp zone
je ne comprends pas pourquoi le gars enlève sa stab alors que son binôme n a qu a fermer le robinet et lui proposer son detendeur de secours et ensuite remonter à vitesse contrôlé en faisant les paliers
Son binôme, quelle expérience a-t-il? Si c'est sa troisième plongée de certification pour son OW, il n'aura aucune idée de quoi faire. Jamais il n'oserait fermer le robinet de son instructeur de lui même. Peut-être que lors de cette plongée, l'instructeur n'avait au fond aucun binôme, qu'il était le seul à pouvoir gérer l'incident, les autres plongeurs ne pouvant savoir quoi faire. Ici, on ne voit qu'une vidéo mais on n'a aucun contexte, aucune information sur la situation qui prévalait alors on devrait se garder une gène dans nos critiques.
Aussi, en Open Water et en situation d'urgence, non, on ne fait pas de palier
He should have accepted the alternated air from his buddies, not keep rejecting them. I give credit to his calmness tho.
I too am super confused why he wouldn't have switched and why he let the tank continue to drain other than if he was attempting to make the whole bc more bouyant on its own without having additional air (but if neutral shouldn't need to compensate that much with it). At first I had thought this was some kind of weird training dive based on his reactions.
D'où l’intérêt d'avoir deux robinets avec deux premiers étages en France pour les GP et +
Sinon fermer le robinet et ouvrir à la demande si isolé …..
The last thing you have to do in any case is get rid of your tank and BC why? because is your lifeguard at the surface specially with your weight belt on!! Basic scuba knowledge friends!!!
This is a great example of how not to dive AT ALL. the DM needs to be able to close the valve without taking off his wing /bcd etc. holding it in the hand makes it very risky for himself and other divers.
the other eivers are just not trained to deal with it and are clueless. These are things one trains on every dive if one chooses to Do it right. check out GUE and their standards its really basics here that go wrong and are handled wrongly. very risky behaviour.
yes agree / that is why put this online .. chinese dive center ... bad equipment
@@Christian-dq3ph its not about which dive center. nor equipment. its about training. equipment will fail. at some point it always will.
Great to be calm, but to take off your BCD and turn the air off whilst still underwater?
Taking it off was better, having bubbles flying around your head as you're defending is quite disorienting. Also when a tank is lighter it floats more. So stopping the flow of air helped him control his accent
Bonjour, ce Dive et irresponsable !!!
il na pas appliquer la procédure... il a attendu trop longtemps avant de fermer sont bloc. de plus le club de plongée qui l'emploi sous la supervision d'un instructeur et aussi responsable de l'entretien du matériel de ces Dive.
OK cette encadrant n'est pas le plus performant 🙄 mais il ne ce passe pas grand chose là ...
Fin de plongée à 10m, on remonte et voilà !
On parle de 40 normo-litre pour remonté ! 4 bars 😜
Même si sa fuite représente le double avec ces 50 bars de réserve il est large 😂
Pas de quoi en faire de tonne Par contre leur équipement est a revoir c'est sûr
새끼 괜찮다고 잘난척하더니 옆사람 옥토 말도없이 물어가네... 대처는 잘했지만 위험하다 느끼면 도움을 청해야지...
Bah semblaient etre a du 15 metres,et il maitrise bien le gars
As a side note, why do women have to be "sexy" even under water? Never understood that, I find it disrespectful and distracting
Vraiment très mauvaise réaction du moniteur, dans les respects du règlement on ferme directement son bloc pour éviter de faire rentrer de l'eau dedans lorsqu'elle est à 0 bar et ensuite lors du remonté avec échange d'embouts, ici l'octopus on doit tenir son partenaire toute la remontée, de plus on voit clairement qu'à aucun moment le moniteur n'a contrôlé son ordinateur pour vérifier si il y avait des paliers à réaliser avant de remonter à la surface.
Il doit le regarder dans les yeux pour pas qu’il stress s’est sa ?
Il est dit dans la description que c'est au début de la plongée. A 10m. Le moniteur n'avait certainement pas besoin de regarder sa montre pour savoir qu'il n'avait pas de palier à faire.
Apparament ils seraient en eau peu profonde, vu le matos ( plongée commercial anglo-saxonne). Il est peu probable que l'eau entre dans la bouteille avec ce genre d'avarie et de toute façon c'est secondaire. D'accord avec vous la réaction est un peu "surjoué".
1) fin de plongée on remonte
2) éventuellement si plus d'air (peu probable aussi) ben on prend un detendeur de secours d'un autre plongeur...
Beaucoup de cinéma pas de quoi fouetter un chat
Le responsable de ce bizness lucratif ce démerdera avec son matos. Il avait qu'à donner des blocs avec deux détendeurs sur deux robinets 🤷♂️
This is why i always Dive with two independent regulators, just put the second regulator in you mouth, and close the valve for the primary one, easy peasy...😄
Why remove the BCD ? It is impossible to solve that problem underwater anyway.
It would be fun to watch him do that stunt in cold waters with a drysuit and 7mm three finger gloves on😂
You're confusing two regulators (that he has, as you can see from the video, the yellow one is the octopus), with two first stages, using the second regulator by having a single first stage will not change anything. Most of the incidents that involve the first stages are due to the tank tube clogging (and it has been proven by the statistic), so even by using two first stages on a single tank will only be an hassle, it won't increase the safety by much and it would add another rupture point to your setup. What's gonna increase your redundancy is a double tank setup: two first stages, two regulators, two tanks, however you won't see this solution adopted much for the recreational diving due to the fact that it's not practical and because of the usage of the "buddy system" as an alternative to the redundancy (acceptable if it's a no-deco dive at recreational depths).
He removed the BCD for two reasons: first to check if it was fixable (a common problem is a popped o-ring and it's not impossible to fix as you said), but also because the tank leaking could reduce the visibility and the taps manipulation in a single tank setup isn't easy (as you have it in the middle).
If you dive in cold water a/o in any other much more difficult environment, you will adopt different setups and different procedures. This was a recreational dive, he was well prepared by the look of it, and he did the right thing. The fact that a newbie would have acted differently (grabbing the buddy octopus for an immediate ascent, leaving the bubbles running out of your tank, doesn't mean that is the best thing to do, is just the simplest thing to do for a non-experienced diver).
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Premier etage 0 ring ??
the pipe // incident of poorly maintained equipment
Extremely stupid to remove the bcd while ascending, absolute nonsense... holding from the mouthpiece? For what? The “cameraman´s” watch is beeping like crazy to slowdown, the “customers” or “students” (even worse) are freaking out, buddies are separated and worse of all, they will assume that this is a “standard” procedure... By the way, Divemaster here, diving for 20 years.
bullshit.... in case of emergency from 20m u can jump on the surface, just remember about breathing
Tooper I don’t know if you’re joking or you’re new to diving... I guess the second. For your information, you can perfectly get DCI from surfacing faster than 10m/m at 20m depth. Actually, depending from your diving profile and / or repetitive divings, this can happen even shallower. Therefore I CALL BS ON YOU. Closing, I would advise that people stop assuming that they know what their talking about, giving irresponsible advices to the audience. You can easily educate yourself by referring online to any major institution tracking diving accidents like DAN. In any case, good luck “jumping” from 20m to the surface, just make sure there’s a decompression chamber nearby...
@@eldiabolico3750 Thank you
@@eldiabolico3750 is it even possible to surface that fast though, that's less than two seconds right
@@ryantylerMachete my mistake, it’s per minute of course, thanks. Corrected ;)