Father Of Hydrogen Bomb Reveals Why He Said Don't Trust Oppenheimer With Classified Info
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- čas přidán 21. 10. 2023
- The speaker is Edward Teller and this is possibly the most blunt interview he ever conducted. It was recorded after President Ronald Reagan proposed Star Wars as a technology to protect America from a nuclear attack by the Soviet Union.
Robert Oppenheimer and Edward Teller were both prominent physicists who played significant roles in the development of atomic and nuclear weapons during the mid-20th century, particularly during the Manhattan Project which led to the creation of the atomic bomb. Their professional interactions were complex, marked by both collaboration and tension.
Oppenheimer was the scientific director of the Los Alamos laboratory, where the first atomic bombs were developed, while Teller was one of the many prominent scientists working under him.
Teller soon became focused on the potential for a more powerful weapon, the hydrogen bomb (or thermonuclear bomb), which was many times more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Oppenheimer, after witnessing the devastation caused by the atomic bombs, was more cautious about pursuing a new, even more powerful weapon.
Their personal relations soured over time. Teller was often at odds with the majority of the scientific community at Los Alamos, which included Oppenheimer. Their differing personalities and visions for the future of nuclear weapons contributed to the tensions.
After World War II, during the McCarthy era and its fervor over potential communist sympathies and affiliations, Oppenheimer's security clearance was revoked in 1954 after a controversial hearing. One of the factors that contributed to this decision was Teller's testimony, in which he did not directly accuse Oppenheimer of disloyalty but insinuated that he might be a security risk. This testimony effectively ended Oppenheimer's role in official nuclear policy-making and drove a further wedge between him and many in the scientific community, including Teller.
Over time Oppenheimer came to be seen as a tragic figure, a brilliant scientist who contributed to the creation of a devastating weapon and later had regrets, while Teller was often portrayed as a hawkish advocate for nuclear armament, earning him the unofficial title "father of the hydrogen bomb."
Dr. Edward Teller was a pivotal figure in the history of nuclear physics and the development of nuclear weapons. While he's best known for his work on the hydrogen bomb (or thermonuclear bomb), he is also a controversial figure for several reasons.
Teller was closely aligned with conservative elements in the U.S. government and was seen as an advocate for a strong military and aggressive nuclear stance during the Cold War. His relationships with figures like Lewis Strauss (a member of the Atomic Energy Commission) placed him at the center of several political battles within the U.S. nuclear establishment.
Even after the primary years of nuclear weapons development, Teller continued to advocate for nuclear energy - initiatives that were sometimes considered controversial. For example, he was a supporter of the Strategic Defense Initiative (often colloquially known as "Star Wars") under President Ronald Reagan.
The term "Star Wars" colloquially refers to the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), which was proposed by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983. The main goal of SDI was to develop a sophisticated anti-ballistic missile system that could prevent nuclear missiles from striking the U.S. This would be achieved by using ground-based and space-based systems to intercept and destroy incoming ballistic missiles.
President Reagan's primary motivation was to provide a defense against the substantial nuclear arsenal of the Soviet Union, thereby rendering nuclear weapons obsolete and ensuring that no city or territory in the U.S. would be vulnerable to a missile attack.
The envisioned system was futuristic, proposing the use of ground and space-based missile systems like Israel's Iron Dome, advanced radars, and even concepts like particle beams and laser systems launched from space or ground installations.
The cost of developing and deploying a complete SDI system was astronomical. Estimates varied, but many believed the program could cost hundreds of billions to over a trillion dollars.
Some military and strategic experts believed that SDI could upset the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD), the idea that the certainty of mutual destruction in a nuclear war would prevent any rational actor from initiating such a conflict. If one side believed it could defend itself effectively against a nuclear strike, it might be more likely to use nuclear weapons first.
After the end of the Cold War and the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the urgency behind SDI diminished. The program was restructured under subsequent administrations and eventually evolved into today's more limited missile defense efforts, like the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense system.
Maybe Oppenheimer WAS too chatty to be trusted with secrets. But Teller's still mad because Oppenheimer complained about him playing the piano at 3 am in Los Alamos. Lol! Fun fact! (Teller was also angry because Oppeheimer had a bathtub, and he didn't!)
Wow.
He refers to the security clearance as a “mistake” but with all I’ve investigated it comes across as things went exactly as designed by a select few.
I love how he does not allow the interviewer to interrupt or derail him or what he has to say.
..”we should not drop the bomb on Japan with out first demonstrating it to the Japanese”❤ man.. the weight he feels, it’s heavy in his voice.
“To call is Starwars is nonsense.” “ .. it has many components here in Earth.” This is a quite intriguing statement he makes as to his deeper knowledge and beliefs.
Don't forget his final quote. "Politics is worse than classical music!". What a lighthearted way to end this interview!
When using quotation marks, one would do well to get the quote correct. You would think that after editing your comment you would be able to achieve that. But, alas, Mongo....
They were both brilliant scientists, and men of their time. The fear of the Cold War was real, and they both believed in what they were working on. Unfortunately, all too often egos and politics drive wedges between those who might have been better friends. Thank you David, this was a very interesting interview.🖤🇨🇦
My gosh he is outstanding - clear minded - intelligent - transparent.
Benny Safdie, the actor for Teller in Oppenheimer, did a very good job matching Edward Teller's voice. That's some great acting that goes unnoticed.
“You do what is right”
The quotes this man, Dr. Teller, gives us … an interview unlike nearly any you would get today.
... as opposed to what is good for the Right ..
Our society (away from the research world) is so far less intellectual that it use to be I feel.
This is AMAZING! I can't imagine how extensive your catalog is! Thank you for posting.
Thank you for the support!
David Hoffman Filmmaker
Always nice to watch an interview with Dr. Strangelove…er, Teller.
Absolutely love your work and the uploads. Thank you for sharing this!
"Politics is the worst, because whether or not you succeed, you are always sorry about it." 15:15
Certainly riveting insight into a very complex situation. Thank you.
Edward Teller was an interesting fellow. thanks for this film clip, David Hoffman
"Could we have avoided the tragedy of Hiroshima?
Could we have started the atomic age with clean hands?
No one knows. No one can find out."
Edward Teller January 15, 1908 - September 9, 2003
Good afternoon David, I saw the movie this year in theaters and they had the documentary on MSNBC the same day I went on a Friday.😊 The bomb 💣 this is interesting to watch. Thanks for sharing this. Have a super Sunday.🎞️🎥👍
Very interesting history... thanks David 😎👍
David you are a legend !
"While holding scientific and technological research in the highest regard, as we should, we must be alert to the equal danger, that public policy itself may become the captive of a scientific elite."
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
it's only a danger to his personal influence and career
Personally, I liked the name "Starwars!" This video is now a very interesting piece of US history! Thanks David✌
These videos are such an important part of our past.
Some of their colleagues said their working relationship was tense at times because Teller wanted to be in charge and was envious of Oppenheimer because he did not get that position; and that Oppenheimer was brilliant enought to allow Teller to develop hydrogen bomb on the side. I think after witnessing the level of human destruction and ability to destroy the human race Oppenheimer realized the genie could not be put back in the bottle and felt the emotional weight of that responsibility.
probably correct
Sir David Hoffman…I AGREE! This interview opened my eyes bigger then I thought possible! What @ConsciousConversations said..WOW!!!
I'm very grateful for this video. Thank you. I don't really get the headline, though. Where in this interview did Teller say not to trust Oppenheimer with classified info? Here Teller seems to be distancing himself from the consequences of his testimony, not being critical of Oppenheimer. In fact, in this interview, he seems surprisingly sympathetic to Oppenheimer.
He did not say it in the video but he did refer to it when asked the question about his testimony against Oppenheimer having security clearance.
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Thanks for the reply and for the channel. I think it's great.
Interesting video
I think that the journalist was unbelievably condescending towards his guest.
That was totally amazing!
Thank you.
David Hoffman filmmaker
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what does this say?
@@turboredcart It says, "Type in translator in your browser and all will be revealed."😉
Neti: It says "An Honest Interview"
David Hoffman Filmmaker
Good leaders know the most important part of their job is determining, (before taking action), what is best for humanity, not for politics.
Amazing video - thanks for posting this
When was this interview filmed?
1982. Why do you ask?
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker just curious. Thank you!
Amazing dialogue
David Hoffman you are a great asset to our history.
Oppenheimer saw his creation's ultimate end & Teller never saw his reach its end. It's much easier for Teller to sleep at night & play games of "what if", deal in the theoretical, dance between the words, etc. While close in time, the ultimate playground was very different for these two (similar) men.
Teller was bitter man, and often conflicted with Oppie in public and in person because he pushed aside Teller's H-bomb ideas and design. Oppenheimer was a wise and practical man who understood the importance of time to implement the A-bomb to prevent further casualties of the war with Japan. So, this interview simply represents the ego of a scientist who did not want to comply, but searched for ways to get back to Oppenheimer.
I wonder if he lived long enough to see the implementation of the defense system he was advocating for. Some of the people who worked on it did not.
Brings us back to the days where people lived "in hard reality" instead of the soft-bellied leftism of today. Dropping the A Bomb was in general undesirable, but arguably had to be done in order for humans to witness its disruption upon humans-themselves. One of the best ways for a society like ours to come to grips with reality is for it to go through a calamity like war. Completely undesirable though, but it's sad that's what it actually takes for us to come to our senses and reality.
I remember watching a video with Sam Cohen, the inventor of the Neutron Bomb, and his very matter-of-fact way in which he describes what the neutron bomb's affects on human bodies are and how he says it's not moral or even rational but it is effective was pretty chilling.
No one created the neutron bomb. Every nuclear weapon is a neutron bomb. You’re referring to a lo yield weapon that disperses neutrons instead of focusing them for a larger detonation. There are/were only 2 bombs that could’ve been classified as a neutron bomb in the US 🇺🇸 arsenal and one was a maybe. Try doing a lil reading on the subject.
Weapons design is one of the careers attractive to high-functioning psychopaths
@@joecambodia1326 Hey! Don't get snippy! We are grateful for your factual accuracy! Play nice!
@@RogerLewis-ey2ttAgreed!
@@RogerLewis-ey2tt I agree. I don't know the actual data, of any, to support this, but I tend to believe only a small percentage of people would be capable of designing a device that could end humanity. I believe it would take a very distinct type of personality (and traits) in the same way that serial killers have distinct commonalities in personality.
To be fair, I wouldn't trust anyone that invented a bomb.
BUT, we cannot dismiss that other nations were also working hard to develop this type of warfare. I'm sure it takes a certain type of personality to develop something that could end the human race in a matter of minutes. I don't believe most people are capable of separating their moral conscience and science, or the job, if you will. I would imagine it's a very small percentage of the population that's capable of doing this -- just as a very small percentage of the population has the type of personality to become serial killers.
I wouldn’t trust a person like you.
The reason why Oppenheimer didn’t want a hydrogen bomb getting developed was either a moral one or related to his ego about the fission bomb ownership that he had as a director of the Manhattan project.The hydrogen bomb was far superior in energy release due to fission fusion feedback loop Teller invented.
In my opinion, Teller's proposal to demonstrate the for before dropping one on and , wasn't enough for the . The were out to avenge for December 7, 1941.
It's great to live with a constitution, where I can freely exercise the first amendment (freedom of Speech) on all social platforms without "Bleeporship".
We knew the japs were coming then, just like izreal knew recently. All these obviously allowed/false flag type attacks need to stop, it's beyond absurd at this point, by any thinking mans standards
He was "The creative manager"
The question is, why do banks fund all sides of wars, and why do the rich allow wars?
"I served in all commissioned ranks from a second Lieutenant to a Major General. And during that time, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism."
-Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler
If you haven't read his short book War Is A Racket, give it a read.
Because that's how they got rich and how they get richer.
Human trafficking and war are the biggest money making schemes. These people are sick.
But he said the taking away of Oppenheimer’s security clearance was wrong.
That's not what he said during the hearings.
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Sad.
I think the Soviets got the bomb from Fuchs who copied it and gave it to them. They wouldn’t have gotten it otherwise.
so what’s this all mean for those who don’t know oppy
Means everything Teller said is complete bullshit or to be taken with a grain of salt.
I don't know....but Nuclear Winter will stop global warming, silver lining!
From the top 10 scientist, 5 was Hungarian, Ede Teller, John Von Neumann, Theodore von Kármán, Leo Szilard, Eugene Wigner. Without them, We would have different present now.... Hollywood, make a video about them, instead of a 20th Oppenheimer....
..and I’m only a bit half way through the interview.
The free world yeah right
I'm glad im stupid. I mean geez, what a responsibility to be that smart? No thanks. I am happy being a pleb.
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He was nota warmonger, he was for placing americas defense interest first. Oppenheimer had no clear idea of what he wanted.
This guy was an unimaginably vicious warmonger. He saw what Oppenheimer was involved in creating and decided to make an even bigger weapon. Oppenheimer knew the whole thing was a big mistake from the start.
And yet he was the one who suggested giving Japan a non lethal demonstration
@@Bigboss192xReally?
@@johnsondoeboy2772 In this interview he literally says "We should not drop the bomb on Japan without first demonstrating it to the Japanese. "
@@B_BodziakAnd in this demonstration, if they still do not comply, then that is what is happening in the world today...sadly. Division...and eventually, the aftermath.
@@towerofresonance4877 First, we can't possibly know what would or would not have happened if a demonstration had been provided. Second, I bet the people of Japan would have preferred to have had the option. Have you actually seen the aftermath regarding those few who did survive? When has/is targeting and killing civilians ever acceptable? I'm seriously asking.
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We could have just shown the film of what we had, and we had one . Millions did not have to die.
Dropping the bombs on Japan was pure evil and not necessary.
No, nuclear weapons!!!!
No more wars.
Bach is my favorite composer. All music comes back to Bach. ❤️
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Source: Russian TV
@@DogeickBateman
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@@cheri238 Says the one who probably read communist propaganda only
I saw the movie so I trust Oppenheimer over this guy 😂
He literally knew him and the movie is a movie
I can only believe your statement is sarcastic. Otherwise, wow. "I saw the movie... So, the movie must be accurate.". You realize the movie was a Hollywood production and not a documentary, right? Just an FYI: That was not actually Oppenheimer in the movie.
@@Bigboss192x I have to assume the OP is being sarcastic. That's the only reasonable interpretation of that comment.
Lol!!! That's how (God forgive us) we ended up with President Ronald Reagan
@@B_Bodziak r/whoosh!
He resembled "Mr. Bean" a bit
He totally betrayed Oppenheimer. Bright guy but unethical. Also, he definitely had some personality disorder as many at Los Alamos didn’t get along with Teller.
This interviewer is a bit of a git.
I feel like an alien living on a monkey speaking Iceland where the idea of being intelligent is expressed by who can kill and destroy more. To say I'm ashamed of being human would be a cliché, everyday is a pain that infects the tiniest corners of my soul ! If Dante Algieri was still among us he would have added a whole new special circle where the punishment is powered by your perpetuum mobile as a reminder of how your greed and wickedness defeated the noble desire for common good and wellbeing among every single living being on this beautiful planet.
Ah, the delicate politics of mass-murder.
Warmonger