It depends on the skill level. I’m a 700, and I got in this position (I was the one without any pieces) and I decided to take a gamble that he didn’t know how to room checkmate. The game was eventually drawn by timeout vs insufficient material
its a good way for beginners, its reliable and cannot fail if done correctly, its also a simple concept, its easy to learn as well due to the simple concept, its fine if you're a newbie in chess
@@Koahefficient_lovesediting yeah, to begin with, you can always choose the better half, this means you will only ever need to move 4 lines. There is a method to move the king past the 4 move mark from any position (including the other kings position) in less than 5 moves. This means in the worst case, where the king is in the worst place (5 moves to get into position, we will need to move 4 rows (which I think is 9 moves each) this means we will need to make 36 moves + the 5 moving into position moves, this will take 41 moves, which is less than 50. I think my numbers are correct and that would imply you can always move them effectively but I don't have a chessboard and I honestly can't be bothered doing all the moves...
I once played a game where I’m down. Dude I’m playing have bishop, knight, and a pawn. I looked straight at his eye and said “I bet you do not know how to mate with a bishop and knight. And took his pawn with my only bishop. He was 1900s
This is completely forced. You put your king in a position so they can either run away to an edge or step into opposition. If they go to the edge you follow, if they go into opposition you check with the rook and force them back a rank. Repeat until checkmate. The opponent isn't going into the corner to be cooperative, running to the corner delays checkmate as long as possible.
You can't premove rook checkmate. The opponent not always play "best move". Also wirh 2 rook with the same reason, there's a safe premove way but it take alot of move
For some reason loads of people in my school just randomly started playing chess whenever we get time on computers, idk why nobody in my class enjoys it we just naturally want to see who's better at chess
You want to get your king a knight move away from his king on the side of your rook. Follow the king to the edge then force it back until mate. If he moves his king into this position, make a waiting move with your rook. If he moves his king into this position but he is on the side of your rook, slide it over to the other side of the board
If you are going to use this method you should not be going for opposition, you should be trying to stay a knights move away so the king is forced to the edge of the board or be forced to be checked by the rook and forced back again. If you try to do what you just did in the short, the black king can just move back and forth in the middle and white has to do something else to make progress
I have a better and more effective one Make a square with your rook guarded by your king Start making the square smaller and smaller until opp king is in back rank Then move your room to edge and opp king to opp corner and Check mate them
This, sometimes nicknamed the 'Opposition Method' (or somthing like that) is the easiest way (= less brain power required), but I'd advise beginners to try to learn the box method as it is much faster, so the 50-move rule isn't as bad of a threat in case you mess up.
A guy checkmated me with Just a Kind and a rook right in the middle of the game that I was winning quite decisively. I was 1 move away from making a Queen and starting my attack. I never saw it coming
It's a little bit quicker to not go in the position where the kings facing each other. Go in the position where the king would do a check if he was a knight by the side of the rook.
U don’t want to face the king when the opponent is running away because they can just go left and right for a draw; instead when the opponent’s king goes back a rank, move your king diagonal from theirs so there is no possibility of a draw
This rare af take wont happen not just cuz they he 50 move rule it takes 48 moves in the worst case but the factors of messing up a few moves and the factors of the end game would’ve been before the king and took only
What I like to do and in my opinion is more efficient is to create a box with my rook and king and drive the opponets king into the corner for checkmate
This is a very slow way to checkmate with a rook, all the edges are the same if they move to the left edge that's just as good as the back so playing something like Rc5 is better than Rh5
Also if the eneđy king is cornered, let's say on h8 and your rook is on for example a7, your king can aslo be on g6, not just on h6, and Ra8 is still checkmate
You can't actually force checkmate this way because if the opponent is smart they will just never go to the edge of the board that way the kings are never on opposition
POV: You are 594 and you want to get to 600 and you somehow save the game because your opponent blunders when you just blundered so you search up how to checkmate with a rook cus you forgot and because you are playing 15|10 you don't run out of time and you are able to checkmate them.
a normal opponent would resign on the spot
Some people think you don't know how to checkmate but I learned this a decade ago
Depends on the rating
Also no nobody in their right mind would resign if there’s less than 10 seconds on the clock so it also depends on the circumstances
It depends on the skill level. I’m a 700, and I got in this position (I was the one without any pieces) and I decided to take a gamble that he didn’t know how to room checkmate. The game was eventually drawn by timeout vs insufficient material
Na I wouldn’t resign, they have to prove they know and could win on time or stalemate 😂
the square rule is so much easier and quicker lmao. this works too but you should be carefule of the 50 move rule
So I tested and worst case senario with this takes 48 moves.
@@Toppat4Lyfe assuming you do it perfect which a lot of people will manage to mess up
It’s possible to do in 20 moves
I tried doing it in the most beginner way possible
Yea I see those vids and I’m like man there’s a easier way
Damn, and I thought the way I checkmated with a rook was inefficient
Bruh
Its a method for beginners and is foolproof so yeah might be inefficient
Bro you can just premove the check mate and it's actually faster than the checkmate you are talking about
its a good way for beginners, its reliable and cannot fail if done correctly, its also a simple concept, its easy to learn as well due to the simple concept, its fine if you're a newbie in chess
Same lmao
All fun in games until the “50 move” rule comes in to play
most of the time this is possible in less than 50 moves.
@@jffrysith4365 Really?
@@Koahefficient_lovesediting yeah, to begin with, you can always choose the better half, this means you will only ever need to move 4 lines. There is a method to move the king past the 4 move mark from any position (including the other kings position) in less than 5 moves. This means in the worst case, where the king is in the worst place (5 moves to get into position, we will need to move 4 rows (which I think is 9 moves each) this means we will need to make 36 moves + the 5 moving into position moves, this will take 41 moves, which is less than 50.
I think my numbers are correct and that would imply you can always move them effectively but I don't have a chessboard and I honestly can't be bothered doing all the moves...
@@jffrysith4365 Oh ok thank you
in our school we use the 16 move rule😅
People talking about the 50 move rule obviously haven’t seen the bishop and knight checkmate💀
The what
@@Davis... bishop knight king vs king
It's like 30 moves tops
I once played a game where I’m down. Dude I’m playing have bishop, knight, and a pawn. I looked straight at his eye and said “I bet you do not know how to mate with a bishop and knight. And took his pawn with my only bishop. He was 1900s
16 moves and its stalemate so this doesnt even matter
It's hard to checkmate when opponent king doesn't go to the corner
This is completely forced. You put your king in a position so they can either run away to an edge or step into opposition. If they go to the edge you follow, if they go into opposition you check with the rook and force them back a rank. Repeat until checkmate.
The opponent isn't going into the corner to be cooperative, running to the corner delays checkmate as long as possible.
@@finbar163 got it..... It takes long time
@@ankursadhukhan yeah, it's not the fastest but it works and you don't have to think. I've never lost on time doing it this way.
@@finbar163 Thanks for teaching.👍👍
@@finbar163 yeah there's a faster way by trapping the opponents king in a box
I can just see Hikaru premoving all of that
im guessing hikaru is good enough to use the box
You can't premove rook checkmate. The opponent not always play "best move". Also wirh 2 rook with the same reason, there's a safe premove way but it take alot of move
50 move rule be like
It doesn't take 50 moves to checkmate with rook and king
Nothing beats the persistence of a player allowing you to promote all remaining pawns 😂
Considering that this is a video about a rook checkmate, I don't think I understand the relevance.
Box method in the corner:am I a joke to you💀
@CagnusMarlsonwhat if the opp doesn't chase your rook?? This doesn't work
@@Chris-qu2qyno but the opp can just keep moving on 2 squares to make a draw and you can't do anything with this method
It's not the "easiest" way... The easiest way is the box method
Box method is faster.
For some reason loads of people in my school just randomly started playing chess whenever we get time on computers, idk why nobody in my class enjoys it we just naturally want to see who's better at chess
don't know why but I actually feel like I defeated a player like you who was wearing rabbit hat
You want to get your king a knight move away from his king on the side of your rook. Follow the king to the edge then force it back until mate.
If he moves his king into this position, make a waiting move with your rook.
If he moves his king into this position but he is on the side of your rook, slide it over to the other side of the board
I still remember when i spend 5 minute in 10 minute game just to find out how to check with only rook and king
If I used this "trick" I would probably get asleep before my opponent
Me with 10 seconds left on the clock: *resigns*
If you are going to use this method you should not be going for opposition, you should be trying to stay a knights move away so the king is forced to the edge of the board or be forced to be checked by the rook and forced back again. If you try to do what you just did in the short, the black king can just move back and forth in the middle and white has to do something else to make progress
Love you for this!
Can we just appreciate how smooth this transitional loop is? 🔥💯🤝🏽
Thanks man! Was looking for it
I lost several games before I learn this.
Love these!
Thx actually helpful 👌
I have a better and more effective one
Make a square with your rook guarded by your king
Start making the square smaller and smaller until opp king is in back rank
Then move your room to edge and opp king to opp corner and
Check mate them
Somehow J thought of this myself before even watching this video
Right after this video i got rook king vs king and i was able to checkmate him because of you thanks man
This is the slow way, you can do it much more easily by forcing your opponent into a corner
Thank you man, you helped me
Bro they can keep going side to side
This, sometimes nicknamed the 'Opposition Method' (or somthing like that) is the easiest way (= less brain power required), but I'd advise beginners to try to learn the box method as it is much faster, so the 50-move rule isn't as bad of a threat in case you mess up.
He doesn't hav to go for the rock he will just go back and forth
Tell me with 2 bishop
That’s a stalemate, if you can survive 50 moves without any other pieces it’s a stalemate
how is that stalemate?
@@magicalman7039 it’s a rule idk
@@magicalman7039 repetition of moves
@@gazing2471 that's not how repetition works, you need to get the same position three times
@@magicalman7039 it’s not repitotion of moves idk what’s it called
A guy checkmated me with Just a Kind and a rook right in the middle of the game that I was winning quite decisively. I was 1 move away from making a Queen and starting my attack. I never saw it coming
I had this scenario once but I failed to execute it and I laid awake at night malding over it
A rook can look at a king
A faster method would be to mive the rook on c4 instead of c8 and then the king behind it and then checkmate on the right side saving more time
thank you for helping everyone under 25 elo
You didn’t have to cut me off -king:
LOL
This is how it feels having 1 piece left in Checkers 💀
I thought checkmate with a rook isn't possible untill someone checkmated me.
My opponent would stalemate themself because of time
thank you for this
I was actually in this situation and I forgot how to do it, and I blundered my rook, then my pawn cuz I was time rushed, and then a forced draw.
Isn’t faster to use the night opposition?
I always draw when the king is in the back rank💀
Can you please do a king and bishop
The perfect loop doesn't exis-
Forgot to mention resetting tempo with a rook move… much faster
This takes forever.
Put the oppo in a box and then slowly shrink the box while protecting your rook.
He can just go back 💀💀💀
POV: The enemy king moves back and forth between two tiles of the board..
Just FYI, there is a way to do this without that happening. Guaranteed win, no draw.
Man wasted a move at the end
Me: *Does that*
50 move rule, time pressure and mouse slips: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
Why does this guy give me the feeling that he's in love with his camera?
I prefer shrinking the box for the opponent king
This is only available if the opponent goes for the rook
I also do this with the queen since i don’t want to stalemate.
Do knights bro
It's a little bit quicker to not go in the position where the kings facing each other. Go in the position where the king would do a check if he was a knight by the side of the rook.
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He can just move the other way tho
U don’t want to face the king when the opponent is running away because they can just go left and right for a draw; instead when the opponent’s king goes back a rank, move your king diagonal from theirs so there is no possibility of a draw
Bro it's so much easier to keep the king in the box, if you can close the box with the rook do that, if not move your king up to protect, easy
Thank you
This rare af take wont happen not just cuz they he 50 move rule it takes 48 moves in the worst case but the factors of messing up a few moves and the factors of the end game would’ve been before the king and took only
Yesterday I had this position and ended up stalemating him😅
When I do it they just got back and forth
I mean. This is slower than the actual way but it works
literally today i couldn't check with rook cus i was confused on the moves but now i know
Very comprehensive and clear. Better than other chess channels
The black can just go back, one move before the rock are threatened by the black king
He is still im the opening
Nah you are telling me this trick
I am the kind of guy who can blunder during ladder mate 💀
What I like to do and in my opinion is more efficient is to create a box with my rook and king and drive the opponets king into the corner for checkmate
This video about 15 min ago would have been so helpful
The Rolling Mate is way, WAY faster and accomplishes the same task in basically the same manner but more efficiently.
I just had 2 games back to back where this happened. First where I had the room and second where I didn’t. Both draws.
I prefer to do the knights distance method
Computer be like (stale mate)
Perfect looping
Bro use the box this is like for cavemen
This is a very slow way to checkmate with a rook, all the edges are the same if they move to the left edge that's just as good as the back so playing something like Rc5 is better than Rh5
I honestly want the longest way without tie for those that never surrender
Thanks
If you start before the 3rd rank it's an automatic stalemate
What if the opponent repeats moves
you can use the box checkmate
just cut off the squeares for the king to move with your rook while protecting the rook with your king
@@theROOOOK2662 oh ok
Also if the eneđy king is cornered, let's say on h8 and your rook is on for example a7, your king can aslo be on g6, not just on h6, and Ra8 is still checkmate
I mean at this point you’ve already won the game
You can also just box in the king like when the white king is on c3 you could have just play rc4 and done it from there
What if the opponent goes back and forth
thats longer than usual 💀💀💀💀
You can't actually force checkmate this way because if the opponent is smart they will just never go to the edge of the board that way the kings are never on opposition
Bro this can just be repetition if your opponent move right and left
POV: You are 594 and you want to get to 600 and you somehow save the game because your opponent blunders when you just blundered so you search up how to checkmate with a rook cus you forgot and because you are playing 15|10 you don't run out of time and you are able to checkmate them.
The problem with this method, is it can have a high move count and nears the 50 move rule where it would be a draw
This is certainly a way...
its kinda crazy just how many moves you have to use to checkmate with just 1 rook and a king
“Draw by 50 move rule” 💀
What if the king doesn’t go for the rook and just keep going in the middle?
Make a rook move, giving you knight opposition
Waiting move