Why I Love Pirates of the Caribbean
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- čas přidán 11. 08. 2021
- In this video essay, I break down what I love about the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise.
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I legitimately had zero idea that 1-3 weren’t universally loved
And you're all the better for it!
Bro same, this is what I grew up with and what I’ve held on to during my 3-4 years of cancer…
I think more people like them the longer it was released and the more they watched.
One and two are complete masterpieces but number 3 wasn’t nearly as good. I still loved it and it was a great movie but cant compare to the first two. The fourth and fifth are terrible.
@@-landon-9002 I personally think the fourth was mediocre and the fifth absolute trash. I'm just glad all the characters from the trilogy in the fourth one were mostly themselves
I still stand by that Davy Jones is an absolute miracle of a villain. On paper, Davy Jones sounds like a ridiculous character. He has a tentacle beard that he uses to play the piano, he makes weird noises with his lips occasionally, he has a literal crab claw as a hand, and he has a giant squid he summons to eat ships. But he is, in my opinion, the most intimidating force in Pirates by a longshot. Yes, even more than Barbossa, who at the end of the day still was a human being. Davy Jones is arguably one of the best villains in cinema and that's in no small part to Bill Nighy's performance.
Davy is definitely more dangerous than Barbossa.
Even if Hector also needs to be handled with extreme care...
He's much more of a *pirate's* pirate than Jack ever was!
It also can't be understated how human he feels. He is a pretty tragic character and underneath all of that ridiculous design is buried a very human person. Also it's interesting how in Pirate movies symbol of Calypso is a Crab and Davy Jones is part crab and part octopus or squid. And octopuses eat crabs so his form is in a way personification of Davy's hatred for Calypso, but also his love for her because parts of him are still that of a crab and those crab parts are the ones that both make him stronger (his claw) and weaker (his peg leg). A food for thought... a sea food if you will.
@@AzraelSoulHunter That's some deeper analysis on the animal parts than I ever would've imagined! Good job. 😱
And yes indeed, the humanity of Mr. Squid-face really helps a lot. He's more than a throwaway background villain; he's quite a developed real person; interesting in his own right, even away from "ye olde classic Jack-love".
Bill Nighy did ham it up like there's no tomorrow as Davy Jones. It works but I think Nighy was leaning into the ridiculousness. It's the same with Barbossa. Geoffrey Rush was having the time of his life and I think he was the saving grace of Pirates 5. Yeah, Pirates 5 was pointless, aside from the Will and Elisabeth reunion (the only scene in the entire movie that had any real reason to exist), and Jack's character was butchered (he would never give away his compass for anything, not even rum, because even without the context of Salazar being after him, he was very attached to his "effects") but Rush makes that movie at least somewhat worth watching.
@@tomnorton4277 Davy's acting is indeed quuuiiiite mental!
Seriously, what WAS that guy smoking??
He does have a pipe.
Maybe seaweed?
Could he be suffering from seaweed-brain???
And yer rrrright on the money about Geoffrey Rush.
The guy is an absolute treasure!
He's indeed basically single-handedly what little saving grace film 5 does have.
And I should rewatch it one day for that alone.
I also like him in Gods of Egypt and Les Miserables.
He's SO cool.
And I love the story PotC director Gore Verbinski tells about being called while in the supermarket and it was Rush to discuss yet more ideas for his character.
That guy took his role SERIOUSLY!!
And it shows. 😎
I also really enjoyed how the trilogy didn’t end on a cliche happy ending. As a kid, it made me mad that Will didn’t get to stay with Elizabeth but now that I am older, I love this choice for the story. It made the story stick out more. Something more fresh
For sure! Didn’t make me mad as a kid, just a bit sad.
Which is why (in part) that the 5th film was such a poor film. Not only did Jack Sparrow become a parody of himself, the plot should've been a build up of films 5-6 for trying to get Poseidon's trident and removing the curse like how 2-3 were for Davey Jones' heart.
@@zanfear right!? Like Jack just wasn’t Jack! I wanted to punch the screen so many times during that film! While I appreciate the attempt at trying to get Will free, it wasn’t executed well and just-gaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I’m gonna stop before I start keyboard smashing in all caps…….
I didn't watch all the trailers for the 4th pirates movie (as on that time I only new Spanish [my native language] and in Mexico we only got like 1 trailer on TV at that time) so I thought the 4th movie would solve that, creating a happy ending for Will and Elisabeth.
@@PrincessMeggala0913 the because in 4 and 5 Jack got "flanderised"
What I particularly love about 1-3 is the cinematography and set design. It's absolutely immersive and it's shot in such a grounded realistic fashion. You can almost smell the seawater and gunpowder. Compare it to DMTNT where everything looks like a Disney Channel movie.
ahh ikr!!
DMTNT looked all clean and artificial compared to the trilogy.
The third film had one the best sea battles ever put to film.
Can't argue that!
Na, master and commander did better ;)
@@mrshovelbottom7475 I meant to say "one of the best" because I also love Master and Commander, as well as the Ben-Hur (2016) sea battle, the 300:Rise of an Empire sea battle, and if WW2 counts then this is the best: czcams.com/video/uUgHwunLzK0/video.html
PotC 3 sea battle is certainly epic.
But it is also the same ships going at it again that did in DMC.
With two full fleets lying just off-screen, going otherwise completely ignored.
I find it very difficult to believe that was the original plan.
Why write an entire story to work up two fleets, only to then *not* use them??
Thank goodness for us Dutch and the film "Michiel de Ruyter" aka. "Admiral: Command and Conquer" aka. "Sea Battles: The Movie".
FINALLY get to see some proper fleet-on-fleet action too!!
I also have a soft spot for the ending sea battle in Cutthroat Island.
EEEEEPIC music too, plus they did basically *everything* live action AND full-scale.
So when that final ship gets completely blown to smithereens, that was *literally 100% real*!! 😱
@@pieterboelen2862 it's probably because it would have been very silly to see two ships destroy 50-100 boats all at the same time. And the movie is already very long and bloated. And that would be alot more expensive, it was just to show how under power they were
Pirates of the Caribbean is a perfect trilogy, but Disney never knows when to stop
@@bullymaguire9987 they should have though, good things must come to an end, otherwise they just end up parodying itself. Look at the new Star Wars movies, too good of a brand to let die, but they ended up killing it themselves through an utterly disastrous bastardisation of the Original Trilogy
3-4 is funnier
I disagree, 4-5 were good as well.
@@bullymaguire9987 every sequel adds meaning to the first film in a series, too many proceeding movies and the original feels smaller
it's not just Disney, Universal (F&F) and Paramount (Star Trek) are just as bad. The joys of capitalism, keep it going so long as it makes money.
I've always held Pirates 1-3 is one of the best trilogies ever. I was genuinely shocked when I heard that the vast majority consider 2 and 3 to be bad movies. But I won't let the opinions of others ruin what the movies mean to me!
Love the mindset. Don't let others' disdain ruin your enjoyment!
Yes, it’s up there with the Lord of the Rings trilogy
@@sayyidf.b.6378 And the Dark Knight trilogy.
@@sayyidf.b.6378 Yep, those are certainly the best trilogies ever made.
I like 1 and 2 but don't like 3 that much. too many storylines going on in that one
Finally, someone who gets it. People overlook just how tightly woven the original trilogy is around its themes. Half the time, people who describe the pirates films can’t remember which moment was from what movie and often treat the story beats like random moments that happen purely out of a desire for shock and entertainment value. Savage Books, for example, has a video where he talks about how Davy Jones is the one thematically deep thing the original 3 have going for them, directly overlooking everything else despite outright listing scenes that exude visual symbolism. There’s a point where he lists the fight in the wheel from DMC as one of many random story ideas Verbinski and Co just threw at the wall to see what would be the most “fun,” and while that’s partly true, Jack, Will, and James all fight in the wheel to represent their motivations directly revolving around one another. A film series can be bombastic and funny, and still be thematically rich. I feel people never realize that when it comes to the original Pirates Trilogy.
Themes don't a good movie make.
the cgi in 2 and 3 hold up to this day, the flying dutchman especially, even surpassing some movies we get today.
Not to mention the stories each movie told fitted in extremely well together, it felt like each plotline in the first 3 movies actually had some weight to them and that they could fit in the world seamlessly, like, undead pirates roaming the seas for medallions that cost them their humanity, or there being 9 pirate captains that roam their own respective part of the world, hell, even the giant fucking cephalpod made sense. However IMO 4 and 5 felt derivative, or lack of a better term, pulling stuff out of their ass.
You mean the Kraken? It is a sea monster from the norse mythology, of course it makes sense in a pirate fantasy film.
@@timrosswood4259 The Kraken was a common myth in the West Indies during the period the films take place, in a similar way as the Flying Dutchman, although I do not think they were considered related back then.
I don't think the kraken is a myth though perhaps exaggerated. I think it's just elusive like Nessie and Bigfoot.
@@sonjastarr1364 It would have been based off a Giant squid, which do reside in ocean water.
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I think if you’re going to believe myths then don’t say that they’re not myths but instead maintain a personal definition of the term myth.
I hate whenever i see people hating on pirates 2 and 3, they are soo good. Great video man, well made and a shame it doesnt have any more views!
They are so good! And thanks for the kind words!
Thank you! Dead man’s chest is the superior movie in my opinion. The creators truly gave the characters a much better written story arcs in part two! ☠️☠️☠️
They were incredibly silly while the first had a better atmosphere
@@RobertsThoughts I don't know
I like all equally
Wait, i thought people considered dead man's chest to be the best one
Even the sidecharacters in the trilogy were fantastic: Pintel and Ragetti, Gibbs, Mr. Cotton, Tia Dalma, Sao Feng, Mercer, Norrington, Beckett, Teague and so much more.
ANNAMARIA! I’m so sad she wasn’t in the last two buuuuut Zoe Zaldana is famous now or something 😉
I want a Pintel, Ragetti and Gibs spin-off show so bad. Provided its writing is taken seriously and it does something to gloss over/ignore the events of POTC 4 and 5.
Carina was just insufferable compared to Elizabeth. You know her character didn't make sense when they had to shred not just the pirates, but literally everybody down to a bunch of bumbling, incompetent fools just to make her seem smart and strong. Didn't have to do that with Elizabeth. The old pirates were menacing and yet charming, but it made sense for Elizabeth to stand her ground when confronting them because she was basically royalty. Plus she learned legitimate fighting skills from Will. Carina was just annoying.
right even jack was sooo dumb down to make her standout , they didn't even do that to elizabeth cause she knows how to carry herself ...their characters is far more different..
@@badomens8465 People forget that Jack was perhaps the smartest person in the entire franchise
so she was annoying because she's smart ? lol heard that before. I mean, just because the pirates aren't book smart does not mean they are not sea smart....in other words, they are smart in things they are passionate about like sea and life. There is nothing wrong with that. Carina being one of the first women in the franchise that is smart because she reads books is refreshing...she is still vulnerable and 'dumb' to the ways of a pirate. She is clearly not meant to believe in ghosts or the pirate life because she is a woman of science....that is pretty valid lol also, why are you comparing her to Elizabeth when they are two different characters with differing goals. Carina was not meant to be a copy of Lizzy. That would just be sad. I like Elizabeth's characters as a person but if I had to point out how she's the annoying one it would be that she can't pick a man haha. Woman be kissing them all. Now that is annoying.
@@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive How the hell was she smart or even remotely close to the first smart woman in the franchise? Outside of scientific aptitude, which means nothing if you have nothing else, she was moronic. She had no idea how to handle herself in a situation despite being on her own all her life. Her plan of action in every situation is to declare, "I'm a woman of science!" and then wondering why people were constantly after her, so we can add incapable of learning and adapting from the past, which I might point out is definitively the opposite of science so I don't know where she gets that high regard of herself.
Elizabeth's intelligence and strength were beyond admirable and on full display whenever she was on screen. She had the fortitude to hold her own in the presence of the brethren court. She was able to charm and deceive Sao Feng without even knowing what was going on, being able to efficiently piece together Barbossa's plan. She was able to use the pirate's code to command the court and effectively rally them to fight. I can keep going. She was able to bargain face to face with lord Beckett, and not just at gunpoint but was able to match Beckett's game of 3D chess with her own game. From the beginning, she very effectively deceived Barbossa and the crew of the Black Pearl, despite the irony of the situation. The only flak I give her is that it was pretty stupid of her, once she realized Barbossa didn't intend to kill her to break the curse, to not then use the fact that she knew who they needed to her advantage. Elizabeth was so far beyond Carina she eliminates any competition.
And I can argue these points all day. I may not be Stephen King but I've written a variety of female characters all across the spectrum and I know the poorly written ones when I see them
I don't understand why people don't like the 2nd and 3rd films, especially the 2nd. Davey Jones is a much cooler, scarier, more intimidating and more interesting villain than Barbosa, and all the world building and lore introduced in that film is great. And then you have great scenes like the liar's dice scene, the three way sword duel (lol), and the two Kraken attacks on the ships. Really great film and plot.
Cause the movie is about more than which has the cooler, scarier villain.
For me...I love them both...but 3 is absurdly long...and 2 has a bit too much filler and stupid moments.
@@drewpeacock9087 Yeah, you know I mentioned 4 other things in my comment besides the villain, right?
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire Yeah I can see what you mean by filler. The whole first act when they're on that Island with the natives was pretty pointless, but once the whole crew is back together and Davey Jones is introduced, the pacing is great.
I love them both, the argument my brother and I typically have is which is best, and I will defend Curse of the Black Pearl to the death in that respect.
It is an incredible trilogy.
Completely agree!
You have no idea what a relief it is to come across someone who also loves Pirates 2 and 3. At World's End has always been one of my favourite movies and although it's a bit overfull and not perfectly paced, I have never been able to figure out why people whine and shriek about how it's some unwatchable mess. It is in my opinion one of the greatest examples of how to finish a story in terms of themes and narrative, character progression, and spectacle. A truly spectacular end to a truly spectacular series.
Because it was the end. The series didn't continue. I don't know what you're talking about. Pirates 4 and 5? There were no fourth and fifth pirates movies. It's a *TRILOGY.*
Oh no, was I accidentally discussing fanmade films?? ;)
@@RobertsThoughts Basically that's what they were.
I guess I have a different clock to most people then cos I thought it was very well paced just like the other two.
Wait, there were two more? Huh. I don’t remember two more being made………….😉
Maybe some people just love to hate on them because it became cool to do so ? While the 3rd movie isn’t perfect, the trilogy is still fantastic and all three movies going hand in hand together. But it might be similar to the Prequels hate, it’s cool to hate them. But I might also be biased because I watched the PoC movies growing up so I’m definitely more attached to them
The villain duality of Jones and Beckett worked amazingly well, with them essentially having opposite qualities to each other (aside from cruelty), and the one that was a literal eldritch monster being more human than the flesh and blood man.
Orlando Bloom got to work on both Lotr and PotC in such a short time frame. So epic.
Legend.
i'm happy that someone acknowledges that will & elizabeth were the core of POTC. yes, jack's iconic and the best character to come out of the franchise and I wholeheartedly agree with that, however, he's a character that never really changes/develops - which is fine, as long as you also have characters that do evolve throughout the story.
for instance, On Stranger Tides wasn't bad (and when I do a POTC marathon, I'll watch it), but it was kind of a filler and left me with a feeling of 'why was telling this story relevant?' in comparison to the trilogy that had characters that end somewhere else from where they initially started.
imo, jack's character works best as a "mediator" that drives characters to a certain point in their story rather than being the sole focus in a movie. he is responsible for the majority of the important decisions and outcomes either will and/or elizabeth had to deal with, which leaves me to believe that in the bigger picture, POTC was rather their story with jack playing a great part in it.
This is a great way to put it, especially your last paragraph. I do think Jack becomes more selfless by the end of 3, but you're right, it is W&E who have the biggest thematic and character roles
why was the story not relevant. That's what I want to know. Is it really bad to start off something new ? why is everyone so focused on only one couple when there are other great characters in the franchise that I would personally love to know more about them and their story overall. They did that with Barbossa and his daughter...no one talks about that when it was a really nice story to be told.
When I saw At World's End in the theater, I left wanting to see the next adventure for finding the Fountain of Youth. On Stranger Tides was alright in that regard, but more could've and should've been done with Black Beard.
@@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive its not that it couldn’t be relevant. Its that jack as a character by that point is not changing. He works best as a supporting character, where he can be seen doing all his amazing stunts and schemes without the need to change too much. Writing a main character the basics is in sending them through situations that change them.
BlackBeard should be one of the most famous characters in pirate history and main character in Assassin Creed Black flag and one piece had a little interest in Pirates of Caribbean . Funny that I played the game before watching this part and had lots of prospect with BlackBeard in film but I didn't liked him there and all that hope was crushed.
"I don't like being negative when I could be positive."
You, sir, just earned yourself a subscribe in one simple phrase.
While it certainly isn’t as good as the first three, I’d like to defend 4 a bit. I don’t think it was horrible, on paper the idea that Jack is being used by/is a hostage of Blackbeard is a cool idea, where a cat and mouse game of who can outsmart the other is played. The quest for the fountain of youth also works fairly well, it makes total sense that it exists in the world. The mermaid scene was easily the best in the whole movie, playing up the horrors up the deep that you aren’t going to get away from once you fall in was so cool. Obviously not everything worked but I think it was serviceable.
5 on the other hand was a dumpster fire, why they thought showing jack at his lowest was a good idea is beyond me, he’d earned becoming one of the worlds most notorious pirates by then. Salazar had SO much potential but failed on every front, and the ending was so beyond silly that it hurts
This is how I feel as well. 4 may not be as strong as the first 3 but to me it is still fun to watch. I loved the relationship between Jack and Angelica and while Blackbeard was sadly undermined compared to Beckett and Davy Jones, he still had his moments that made him a threat plus the actor did a great job considering the script he was given. Side characters were also memorable and there were actual jokes and funny moments regardless of how some jokes sometimes were a bit forced. Jack still acted like Jack and the writers knew this and respected that. Compare that to the horrible 5th movie where Jack all of a sudden was dumb and not like Jack at all. None of the new characters were interested and Barbossa and Salazar were the only two to carry the movie. Barbossa was wasted in the end but that was mostly because Geoffrey Rush wanted it to be his final movie. The ending of the 5th movie disrespects the whole lore and story of the trilogy to make a happy ending. While the 4th movie has its lame moments it at least tries to do something interesting with the fountain of youth and does have a decent message of ridding the world of an obsession like the fountain, making the fountain a legend for the modern world (ours). Barbossa’s story in this one was sad and full of revenge which I was rooting for him to win and kill Blackbeard. To me I only watch the trilogy and the 4th movie and ignore the 5th movie. Just my opinion.
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Neither are horrible. Its just bandwagoning. Any of these crticisms easily apply to all 3. Same goes with star wars. GoTs. Etc. People just like to hate on the newest stuff.
Ian Mcshane saves #4. 5th one 🤮
@@Wylie288 I wouldn’t say I hate the fifth one. I’m disappointed with it. It has a decent plot and the ideas and the effects and designs used like the ghosts and the colors used are beautiful. The scene with young Jack outsmarting Salazar is my favorite scene in the movie and Barbosa And Salazar make the movie interesting. Plus Salazar actually had some good moments where he was genuinely threatening. Sadly the story was contrived to give Elizabeth and Will a happy ending plus the fact that Will was cursed means he started betraying his role as captain of the Dutchman which would have been nice to see why he suddenly started not doing his duties. There are so many other issues with the fifth movie. I see the potential in it but it was wasted.
I just love the character of Elizabeth so much, they gave her a perfect arc and it made me really angry when they put her back into a corset at the end of the 5th movie
Exactly. They probably thought it would be good fan service bringing back Will and Elizabeth , but they did it in a way that corrupted their characters :/
So much made me mad about the 5th movie
it was ruined the day they'd left her in an island alone waiting for will for 10 freaking years . she's the pirate king ffs
yea they shouldve shown her getting back from like an adventure with her crew or sm
@@badomens8465 absolutely! But honestly, the 3rd movie leaves enough room for interpretation and I always thought she was going back on some ship. I mean, 10 years! There is no way she was spending that much time on a secluded island
1-3 are great. Jones is one of the best villains to exist.
I prefer looking at 4 and 5 as Barbossa's movies rather than Jack's. He's by far the most interesting character in them.
Never thought of it that way. I like that!
@@RobertsThoughts so do I we should probably kiss
Barbosa was passable in 4, but 5 made him into an idiot.
I like that we can see some past from jack sparrow
@@TheReptain it’s satisfying in a hollow/fanservice-y kind of way.
He was the perfect character to come in and take over the show and then leave a chaotic mess of confusion behind. Understanding what made him into what he was for the movies takes away from the “who the hell is this guy” depiction that defines his character more than the story of the character itself.
He was more of a symbol of chaos and freedom upending William/Elizabeth’s lives than a complete entity, but it was perfect and it made for one of my all time favorite characters in a series.
I like that you barely talk about why 4 and 5 are bad movies and instead you only talk about what makes 1-3 so good. This makes it so your points come through much harder and more sincere because they're not comming from hatered of the new movies, but simply from the dissapointment that they didn't live up to the first 3. And it has nothing to do with nostalgia, because every point you make is legitimate and makes sense. 4 and 5 aren't necessarly bad movies, you can still like them if you want, no one can hold that against you, but you can't deny that they lack the depth of the first 3 movies and quite frankly, that is was most of the audience fell in love with and what made those movies better than "just another blockbuster".
Thanks so much for saying that! I'm glad you noticed. I try really hard to focus on why I love things over why I don't, and like you said, it's more about being disappointed that 4&5 don't live up to the highs of 1-3. :) Thanks for watching!
The Third film holds a real special place with me because I remember distinctly the day it was released. My best friend at the times mom pulled me and him out of school as a surprise and took us to see At Worlds End where my parents met up with us and we all went out to dinner afterwards for my friends birthday. It's such a good childhood memory and while it may not be the best film, I still love it and find it a blast to watch.
Nice!!!!!! My best friend and I saw it at midnight and dressed up! It was awesome. We loved 3.
Getting pulled out of school for any reason would make the best day of my life!
I will defend the Pirates trilogy til I die lol
With good reason!
Good man!
Aye Cap'n
I honestly enjoy Pirates 4; it's a bit slow, but I like the relationship between Jack and Barbossa here so much, and I think Angelica's relationship with Jack is actually quite interesting. I don't know, it's still fun for me; not as good as 1-3, of course, which are incredible. But still fun in my book.
4 is so underrated imo
Yea i enjoyed all but im a johnny depp fan
Exactly number 4 is good I love that one.
4 is good. It just feels a little bit off after the first 3. But it is a good movie and I enjoyed it
This is my opinion on all the movies
-the first 3 movies is a main coarse meal where it all fits together, it’s delicious
- the fourth is like a nice little snack in between meal that doesn’t really satisfy you
-the 5th is when you order something at a restaurant and the chef try’s to poison you.
- I will say one thing I like from the 5th movie is the reunion between will and Elizabeth, the music from the 3rd movie in there was chefs kiss, I liked that scene a lot.
That is a surprisingly good way of putting it.
I still say Davey Jones is one of the greatest villains ever.
No doubt
4 wasn't too bad, but lacked a) Verbinski's direction and b) returning characters. Luckily, Rossio and Elliott were still able to make the script pretty fun. 5 on the other hand...... it lacked Verbinski and both screenwriters, and so we got a bit of a crap film.
I mean, the effects are still really good and there are some exciting set pieces. However, the villain was trash and Jack wasn't his usual self (looks like they tried to spin Depp's private troubles into a more downtrodden Jack Sparrow, which didn't really work). Barbossa was still solid though and the subplot with his lost daughter had potential, but wasn't developed enough.
But for me, the biggest crime of 5 was how they cheapened the characters of Will and Elizabeth. 3 ended on a bittersweet note, where their love was limited to one day each year (correct me on that, may be off). But 5 ... 5 just had to retcon the tragic end with the 'super secret magical staff' that sets Will free from the Dutchman.
And they teased the return of Davy Jones..... yeah, that's another character arc ruined. :/
Yeah, I don't know what happened with Verbinski -- whether he left on his own, or they got rid of him -- they shouldn't have made the rest after he left.
@@TomEyeTheSFMguy I think Verbinski just felt that the story was done after 3, and wanted to move on to other projects like Rango.
The screenwriters stuck around for 4 , but one of them dropped out during the troubled production of 5 :/
Elizabeth and Will's love were just limited to 1 day ashore for 10 years
@@getnaenaed8063 That's it! Thanks 👍
@@getnaenaed8063 oof. pretty bad deal they got there.
If Elizabeth lives to 70 (doubtful, since they don't have modern medicine), thats like 4 or 5 days they get together
Pirates of the Caribbean really had one of the best trilogy’s so many characters grew and changed especially Elizabet to go from just dreaming of pirates to being apart of the pirates to becoming King of the pirates even the villains were so good you didn’t just down right hate them the story they told was so amazing
I consider myself maybe one of maybe the only Pirates of the Caribbean super fans and maintain that At World’s End is absolutely the best one hands down. Davy Jones is obviously a fantastic villain but the Calypso is also a fantastic character and for a black woman in a historical film (for the time) she has so much depth and power that unfortunately wasn’t especially common. Also Cutler Beckett’s death is one of the coolest villain deaths I’ve ever seen. My friends are probably sick of me talking about these movies by now
CLEARLY YOU HAVEN’T MET ME. Haha. I am a huge pirates fangirl. I saw the first two films six times in the theater, the 3rd one, seven. I love them so much.
I think Davy Jones really helped carry the 2nd and 3rd films. He had a presence about him and the last two films did not have villains who were memorable. They were just your standard, 'want to rule the world' villains.
While movies 4 and 5 are truly soulless, I couldn’t help but be moved by Capt. Barbosa’s conclusion.
Very true. Would have been better if he wasn’t in that ridiculous wig for the last two films though. I missed his pirate garb…..it makes me so mad that the rides in DLand and Dworld left him in that ridiculous costume and not his classic pirate garb……or Blackbeard being in the waterfall tunnel….oof. Again, I could rant about how much I do not like 4 and 5 til the cows come home but I’ll stop before it turns into a keyboard smashing rant in all caps…..
I absolutely love the Pirates franchise and it still is some of the movies i still enjoy. But, i may be one of the few who doesn’t think the 4th was so bad. Sure it is weaker than the three first, but it’s still somewhat better than the 5th.
It's definitely better than 5! It doesn't totally knock me off my Pirates high after I watch it the way 5 does.
100% pirates 4 not that bad
I don’t think its bad just unnecessary, and not as good*
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@@virtualpilgrim8645 well good day to you too.
Legendary trilogy. Grew up with it and dreamed for a pirate's life.
……..my best friend and I wrote fanfiction about it………we were very bad writers in high school…………
I'm happy to see Will and Elizabeth get the props they deserve in this video, and acknowledgement that while Jack is entertaining, he never should've been the focus character. I like the first three the best; I only saw the fourth one once and didn't like it, and I never bothered to watch the fifth (though I might watch any of the Will and Elizabeth scenes). I'm not sure that "Dead Man's Chest" and "At World's End" captured the magic of the first movie, perhaps in part because they were being worked on at the same time, but I still like them. "Curse of the Black Pearl" is my favorite but the initial trilogy is just so much better than the next two.
YUP. While I’ll always be a Jack girl, Will and Elizabeth are hands down one of the best cinematic couples to ever exist. THEY GET MARRIED IN A FREAKING MAELSTROM FOR GOODNESS SAKES. I love them so much
Thank you! I’m tired of everyone saying 2 and 3 are bad films. I don’t know what their deal is. ☠️☠️☠️
I am tired of people saying 2 and 5 are bad films! 2 and 3 are not only amazing, I feel they are BETTER than the first one. 4 and 5 might not be as good as the trilogy, but that was never their purpose!
i wouldnt call 2 and 3 bad but they every movie from the first was worse than the last in my opinion, so
1 = glorious
2 = great
3 = good
4 = bad
5 = didnt bother watching and not planning to from what i have seen
The first Pirates came out in Belgium in the summer during a massive heat wave. Everyone felt overheaten. As most non-southern countries in Europe, airco is not that common so the splash of Caribbean cool air breezing through the multiplex airco system was a lucky coincidence. We had the viewing in the early afternoon and I will always remeber when we openend the doors to go out, my girlfriend turned to me and spoke the words "I can't breathe" - miss Swan style. So we bought an ice cream and went back in for a second time.
You are absolutely right. I like to imagine the first three movies as the love story of Will and Elizabth, narrated in the crazy pirate universe, by Jack. Jack is essential for the narrating and creating the "spirit" of the franchise, but alone he cannot succed. He needs the more grounded story of Will and Elizabeth to emotionally tie the viewer to the story.
“Idk if it’s cause these movies are made for kids” *at worlds end begins with a mass hanging*
😶
The original trilogy is actually my favorite trilogy of all time (yes, above Lord of the Rings, fight me)
4 and 5 aren't canon, as far as I am concerned
Even though LotR is my favorite trilogy, I just can't fault your pick :)
precisely my opinion
Just stories idiots tell about jack... yknow inside the universe
@@Elamado97 I feel like pirates is more than comedy. For me it is a tale told from a sailors perspective. For me, it's about freedom and what people are or should be willing to sacrifice for it.
@@Elamado97 but I love Lord of the rings, and it still amazes me that those movies were ever made!
I am a lifelong Pirates fan who has been defending the first three movies his whole life. Thank you for hitting on all of the best points. I wish people would give that original trilogy a fair shake because, in my mind, it is up there with the world's greatest trilogies. I had never stopped to consider why they work, and I love how you put it. They are so honest and sincere. They promise fun pirate action and deliver it, then hit you with great characters and emotional arcs inside of a surprisingly well-realized and well-written screenplay. No playing around or meta-humor, just a damn good couple of movies.
The Pirates trilogy is one of my favorites of all time. I still remember seeing The Curse of the Black Pearl in the theater, it was incredible.
"Davy Jones can rival Steppenwolf"
Hel no, even today Davy looks far better than Shitenwolf. There's no 'rival', it's just outright defeat.
"There are shackles to both society and anarchy."
Damn... I felt that so much.
Pirates as a trilogy make up my favorite movies of all time because they are so good. The characters, story, soundtrack, action, heart and humor are all fantastic. I love hearing people talk about the trilogy like this because I love hearing people recognize the value those first three movies have.
It always annoys me that people hate on DMC and AWE. People tend to lump them in with other ‘bad’ sequels like The Matrix or whatever, but Pirates 2 and 3 are legit great. The story is fantastic and the action scenes are superb. The CGI even holds up all these years later. In sum, thanks for this video! I really enjoyed it!
The fact that two of the main three are the Pirate King AND an immortal captain of an immortal army, ferrying souls to the afterlife, and Jack Sparrow (sorry: CAPTAIN Jack Sparrow) is considered the greatest pirate just shows how impressive the first three movies are
CAPTAIN WILL TURNERRRRR! Hehe. Five just ruined so much of Will with making him all gross and yuck. YALL. No. The only reason Davy Jones was a huge tentacle monster was because he betrayed his duty and corrupted everything Calypso charged him with to do. WILL DID HIS JOB THANK YOU VERY MUCH HE WAS HUMAN AT THE END OF THE CREDITS SCENE IN 3. STOP IT.
The issues I have with at worlds end is. How they miss treated sao feng! And how the other pirates didn’t do anything at all durning the war battle. Besides that. I love it. ☠️
yeah the other pirates just sit there lol
exactly KSJRJSIA they all celebrating after doing nothing was ?-?-?!?!
I don’t dislike 2&3, and I’ve come to enjoy them more as time has gone on, but to me they didn’t have the same tone as the first movie. The curse of the Black Pearl was so experimental and you could tell that they were making it to tell a fun story, and for the most part it’s very grounded and real, skeletal pirates notwithstanding. The first three captured this feeling of there being a big world out there and we were privy to a small section of it, one governor’s daughter, one blacksmith (and good man) and one person who stood outside this society and had the freedom to traverse Port Royal.
Barbossa is still my favorite antagonist because he’s a well balanced character that is smart and able to work the crew to his view while still being sympathetic.
Also I might just like the first movie the best because when it came out I had gotten a coin from the wreck of the Atocha from my parents and wearing a real shipwrecked coin to school when a movie about cursed pirate coins was popular made every day fun.
The first one is definitely my favorite because like you said, amidst the supernatural, it is grounded.
And that's an awesome, fun personal story!
@@RobertsThoughts Grounded, but also feels limited in scope. 2 and 3 in my opinion both do a lot more to expand on all the supernatural and cultural mythos of the sea
Finally someone understands.
I love every one of the first three movies, and I love them all equally. I pretend 4 and 5 never happened. I have seen every movie in the trilogy dozens of times, individual scenes hundreds of times, along with my brother, to the point where we can speak in PotC references. The dialogue, the music, the characters. It's all phenomenal. Every single film (in the trilogy) is a 10/10 in both mine and my brother's eyes. I got to watch 2 and 3 on cinema and they were both on my top 10 most enjoyable movie-going experiences. I was hyped as all hell for both of them. I couldn't believe they'd make a second one and couldn't wait for the third one. I still remember the AWE scene where they travel through the ice from the theatre experience. But really, there are many more I feel I remember from the cinema.
Ok maybe I liked them a little too much, but my life is all the better for it.
Doesn't get talked about nearly enough, these movies are incredible!
The first three movies are today assumed to be lackluster ? Me as a kid of the early 2000s perfectly remember how popular these films were during my elementary and middle school time while the trilogy was going.
The first one is considered to be great, while the second two have quite a deal of skeptics. I was also in elementary/middle when these were coming out and it wasn't until I talked to people older than me that I realized they weren't loved
@@RobertsThoughts Ok, interesting. Maybe here in Germany they were overall percived better.
Very well put. Great video man
Also, right after this, I went straight to the opening of the third movie. Instant chills. Honestly, to me, that is one of the strongest openings ever. Great great video man.
If anything, the trilogy plays VERY well into one of my favorite storytelling tropes: escalation. A bigger and badder threat appears one after the other. Ties in with expanding the worldbuilding, as you said.
Thank you so much for this beautiful in depth look at the true potc trilogy. All of the points you highlighted are the exact things I am constantly trying to convince everyone of. The first 3 movies were gorgeous and intense and human. Well done on this wonderful tribute and critique!
Thanks!
I will never understand the At World’s End slander, specially since it has the BEST score of the entire franchise.
Well done homie, I retroactively love these movies. Thanks.
1 was outstanding, 2 was excellent, 3 was overlong but still enjoyable, 4 had to rely on the undeniable chemistry between Johnny Depp and Penelope Cruz to be watchable but 5 didn't even have that.
I remember getting so pissed off when they announced a Pirates 4 because i thought the trilogy ended perfectly.
Two movies and 14 years later and i'm still pissed off
I never thought 4 was that bad, but it only exists because the end of 3 teased it a cheap way that ruined the ending of a great trilogy.
SAME. I did like that they finally gave us mermaids though…..heh. But that was the only good thing about 4………..
@@PrincessMeggala0913 I completely forgot about how awesome the mermaids were. Best scene for sure
another youtuber about to blow up from CZcams recommendations, love to see it :D
Thank you for letting me experience these three masterpieces all over again!
Time for a rewatch❤️
Legitimately one of the best video essays I have ever seen on CZcams. Thank you for making this (and agreeing to the full extent with my opinion).
High praise! Thanks!!
gore verbinski made the perfect Trilogy! ☠️
Yup
I still remember that when the 3rd part released, there was a pirates of the caribbean night in a movie theater near us. So we went there and rewatched the first 2 movies and saw the 3rd for the first time. That was one of the best movie experience i've ever had.
That's so cool! I love when theaters do that
Such an amazingly succinct analysis of these movies. Your love for the trilogy pours out through your observations. I’ll also love the original Pirates trilogy to my dying day. Thanks for keeping the POC love alive🏴☠️#foreverlookingforthegreenflash
Man this video is so good, your channel deserves way more subs!
I recently did a marathon of all 5 over a few days, (id seen 1-4 already, some several times) and man. After 3 I was so pumped, and I KNEW 4 and 5 were NOT going to give me the fix I wanted. I watched them anyway but not only are they just, bad, they feel unfamiliar and alienating. Like they had their soul ripped out and swapped with something else. After I finished 5 it was one of the few times I wished I could Unsee a movie. It even felt like it was retconning and misunderstanding important story beats. All 4 and 5 made me want to do was go watch 1-3 again so I would have the way they make me feel and the fun I have with them be what was fresh in my mind instead of the weirdly alien vibe that 4 and 5 had going on. I know "vibe" is such a vague term, but like. The original trilogy really do have immaculate vibes. Everything works together to create like a visual, musical, written aesthetic that I will always be nostalgic for. This just made me want to watch 1-3 again even more.
I was surprised to hear that At World's End was met with mixed reviews, because I had a blast watching that movie.
EXACTLY!!! was waiting since 2011 for someone to make this video. Thank You!
What a well put and amazing video!
Very well made video here. I just watched this trilogy again a few weeks ago and it’s still so damn great.
Subscribed to your channel, keep up the good work!
Thank you! Any time you rewatch the Pirates trilogy is a good time
I loved Barbossa's and Jack's love hate relationship through the movies as well. But I have to agree 4 and 5 were both alot weaker than the first 3.
They are each missing what the other has imo, 4 had great performance by Depp and good writing for Jack, but the story and villain weren't that interesting and too much of the movie took place in a jungle in a row which made the setting boring. 5 had better villain and sort of story and def settings, but Jack's character writing and Depp's acting was way off from what Jack actually is supposed to be like. What both were missing however was Jacks own goal, it both he pretty much got dragged along on someone's else quest, doing absolutely nothing before that and not having his own mission brewing behing their backs like in 1st where he also got dragged along by Will but in reality Jack had his own different quest behind Will's back. In 4th he would have legged it if he could and 5th he just got dragged along to find the trident because it would also help him but the mission was Henry's whose goal was to save his father.
I 100 percent agree with that statement all the way. The original trilogy of the pirates of the Caribbean are literally the best trilogy that Disney ever made in the early 2000s. I grew up watching them and I still love watching them every time that I do a marathon of them. 🏴☠️ keep a weather eye on the horizon.
The Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy is one of the single most entertaining series of movies! I will die on this hill.
This is a really good video mate, keep it up like this and mark my words you’ll have 1 millions subs in no time. Seriously bro i appreciate you putting in so much effort and work in this video, and being a genuine content creator.
Subscribed.
Thanks so much for the kind words! I really appreciate hearing that :)
I’m still very disappointed that Johnny Depp agreed to play Jack sparrow DRUNK!! They totally contradicted the compass.
Wait, what??
DO NOT GET ME STARTED. Five just ruined him. COMPLETELY ruined him. At least in four he was still himself……….
This video is amazing, deserves way more subscribers and attention
So happy I randomly came upon this. Wonderful video.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for taking your time to make this video. We need more support for Gore verbinski’s Trilogy! 🎥
These movies may be my favorite action movies of all time. I absolutely adore everything about the first 3. I think you perfectly summed up why the first 3 work so well compared to the last 2.
Thanks!
14:11 what an amazing shot to end this great analysis. Also the ending in pirates 1 (the last scene with jack on the pearl) when the epic music rolls, gives me shivers every time.
Pirates of the carribean has always been a favorite of mine. I used to be absolutely obsessed with it back in elementary school and still appreciate it just as much today. It helped me find many of my hobbies, interests in music and sense of humor. Its a serious shame how easily something so great can be ruined so easily.
9:29 might I add that this wild guitar riff sounds almost like an homage to Ennio Moriccone's soundtrack for the Dollar's Trilogy. Goosebumps every time I hear it.
The music was absolutely amazing. I have all three soundtracks in my Spotify. I have the piano music too! I used “He’s A Pirate” in my graduation photo slideshow! Hehe
My family and I recently had a marathon of Pirates Of the Caribbean, and watching every movie so close to the other, it is clear that the trilogy is miles better than 4 and 5. I feel like most people who hate on this movies really only remember 5, probably not even 4, and thats kind of sad. Great video
That video was just great and made me very happy, thanks 😊
Glad to bring you some joy! This comment did the same for me :)
@@RobertsThoughts :)
Great video! You spoke well about everything! Well said
Rewatched these a few months ago. So freaking good. Classics in my book I didn't even know that people didn't appreciate the first 3 because every person I've talked to about these movies completely love them. I think jack is the most underrated and actually under utilized character of all time. As much as they made him out to be the guy on the poster of these movies he just became a mimic later on. But during the first movie he was a character that everyone thought was foolish but was actually smart and quick witted. He had a lot of depth behind him that I was eager for them to explore in the sequels but sadly was dumbed down.
I'd actually argue that he didn't become a parody of himself until 4&5. He's still very clever and resourceful in 2&3. For example, when he escaped being eaten and the fight with Davy Jones at the end of 3
And I think I'm just too in the "film Twitter" side of movie discussion where lots of people tend to only like 1 and dislike/hate 2-5. Glad you've only ever encountered positivity!
@@RobertsThoughts I'd say his biggest displays of brilliance came in 3 when he gave Will the compass and his parlay with Becket.
1 2 3 pirates of the Caribbeans is gems and a great trilogy
This is a really great video. The first Pirates is easily in my top three movies of all time!
man.... loved all of the pirates movies. easily the best movies to watch high - especially 2/3
I've always defended the entire original trilogy as well. When a franchise gets more than three movies, by default it starts to become a joke, but in this case the drop in quality for the 4th and 5th movies amplified this effect and even tainted peoples' memories of the 2nd and 3rd ones. I constantly remind people that those first two sequels actually had a lot going for them.
I think the only series that didn't become a joke after 3 movies was Harry Potter. But that's in part that each movie had a near thousand page book to rely on. Even happened to LOTR. I get the hobbit is technically a separate series but it's still a continuation of the original movies story as prequels. The first was ok but the next two were very lackluster in my mind. They had to drum up alot of things that weren't in the book. The third movie was based on 2-3 pages.
In Dead men tell no tales. Jack escapes by complete accident… he’s not escaping because he finds a way to get out! 😭
Great commentary! It's true, the first movie will always hold a special place in my heart, but 2 and 3 are equally enjoyable and always worth a rewatch. Thanks for the video!
I clicked on this video by accident but ended up watching the whole thing at once so well done man 👏
18 years, my god.... I remember when it was released. It’s a timeless piece.
I used to love Pirates when I was little; I watched the trilogy over and over again. I came back to them recently as an adult and was blown away with how flawlessly they still held up, both plot-wise and humor-wise - hell, I'd say I even enjoyed them more now because I could recognize and appreciate the broader underlying themes
phenomenal video, keep up the good work
Thanks for the kind words!
One thing that makes PotC 1-3 so great for me is that it felt like one long interconnected storyline in some way, while 4,5 feel like two seperate spinoffs in a way
Pirates 1-3 was amazing, I stand by this fact ever since they came out. Totally agree w your opinion!