What Is Comprehensible Input?
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One topic that stood out for me at the 2017 LangFest in Montreal was comprehensible input. It’s key to successful language learning.
Here I talk about what comprehensible input is and how I make sure I’m into it from the beginning when learning a new language.
If a person listens to sufficient Steve Kaufmann videos enough times, the person will become motivated to learn languages.
I actually do this every time I lose motivation. I've been learning Japanese for almost 4 years, and was losing motivation again and here I am hahaha
Abraham V. Good luck with your Japanese learning! I understand it’s quite difficult to acquire the language because I’m a native Japanese.
LOL.. I agree
The master !!!!
I´m learning english this way
Hi Steve, I've been learning English by listening to podcasts with the transcript, and I know the power of repetition, it's really necessary. I've also noticed that even after repeating a podcast many times and learning all the vocabulary in it, things still remain a little bit superficial in my mind, but when I get back to that podcast after some weeks, it seems like the new words and expressions are stronger now, as if they are more deeply rooted in my memory, and I have a better and clearer comprehension of everything. So this is one my techniques now, while studying something new I'm also reviewing some old material.
Thanks a lot for this video.
can i talk to you please do you have Instagram.
@@akramobada Hi Alex, you can contact me by whatsapp, 5511964744831
That's the assimil books method in fact hehe good for you, that works for me too
I've had the same experience in my target language for both listening & reading. I find it best to repeatedly listen to a podcast or read a chapter in a book many times, and then to move on to other material. Like you, whenever I return to that podcast or chapter a few weeks or months later, I better understand it. I'm guessing our brains are just better focused on that material after a break away from it.
Hey, can you suggest podcasts in English with their transcription, please?
About this comprehensible input, I've learned more English from your videos for being comprehensible than watching series.
Hi Steve. I was happy to come across your channel (subscribed!) that highlights the wonders of CI! I started a Spanish CI CZcams channel due to the pandemic and remote teaching and I find it truly to be a compelling way to teach a language.
We are the comprehensible teachers !!! 👍😃💪
Thanks for the upload Steve ans let's keep the spirit up!
Thank you for describing how to start learning a language. It is extremely frustrating watching video after video, and searching all over, and no one talks about complete beginners and how to get to the point where you can read or understand stories. It is like watching a cooking show and all they say is bake bake bake and they fail to say anything about what ingredients or mixing and you have no idea how to get to the bake bake bake stage.
😂😂😂 I agree with you 100%
It is good to listen or read the same texts several times to notice new words and structures. But often I loose my motivation and I need to find sth else (new language, or even - new type of activity). Also very short texts or even advertisement i find very useful, especially at the beginning.
You are my motivation Steve. Thank you so much for sharing your thouths with us. Greetings from Korea. 고맙습니다!!!
I like to listen to French podcasts from France Inter that are about classical history. I have Latin in school so I know most important people from that time and when I then listen to this much more detailed podcast it's still new information (so it's enjoyable) and it's comprehensible for the most part.
I signed up for lingq and hearing that you listen to a story 40 to 50 times is encouraging I never thought I would have that much time to settle in with a certain story or dialogue until I get to comprehend every piece of information out of it in my target language. I'm using it for European Portuguese and finding material is muito difícil but with lingq it's available even if it's not as varied as Brazilian Portuguese.
I'm reading your book The way of the linguist - A language learning Odyssey... I've been learning English by myself and I'm really excited about being a linguist...
Thanks again, Steve. Love your insight.
I have a few books in English that are really entertaining for me and I read them with pleasure from time to time. It's beneficial in at least two ways. I can clearly see my progress in English and every time I pick up new vocabulary without noticing it. Of course these books are compelling for me. I can't imagine to read something unintetesting and boring over and over again. Cheers. :)
this was the most helpful video I've ever came across because I knew that I remember things that are either relateable to me or I enjoy getting myself into. I'm currently learning Korean, and I'm trying to find ways to learn everything I need to know to be able to speak and think in said language may even learn another language as well. This was also a very motivating video so if I need some I'll be more than happy to go back and remember what I can do to make learning fun again
Well said, Mr. Kaufmann,
comprehensible and compelling are the very drivers of learning languages, which should be viewed more than tools of learning something new on a specific topic, learning about cars directly from the materials written by the inventor or manufacturer of the product.
I also find instructive to read manuals of say a TV set in several languages just for the pleasure of finding out the different approaches tto explaining the same phenomenon eg. in taking remedial actions. Many thanks ad all the best. Paul, 67 retired teacher - non-native speaker ofEnglish.
Awesome explanation with clear examples make me more understanding about this input thanks a Million sir
I don’t know how he can talk to the camera like if he was talking to a person ❤❤❤his speech as well, I’m impressed 🎉🎉🎉
I have been doing German on LingQ since February. I am now on intermediate 2 level material and whilst challenging, it is also satisfying because of the content. I am fortunate to have found a murder mystery story with a proper narrative and actors. I believe is is all amateurs but is very well produced and very compelling. I hope there are more of these on LinqQ because I am convinced it is accelerating my learning.
John T nice to hear your progress.
Facebook chat taught me a language ....from the start it worked. Duolingo helped. Lessons helped too..and now Im faced with speaking.....a task I view as starting a new language in all but name.
Steve's remarks around 9:10 sounds like Assimil's approach with regards to grammar.
Thank's for the explanation Steve
This makes absolute sense to me. I couldn't agree more.
Eu quero falar fluentemente ingles, espanhol, frances, hebraico e japones. Eu melhorei muito meu ingles assistindo seus videos.muito obrigado por compartilhar sua sabedoria conosco e até o próximo video.
I don't speak Portuguese but I kinda understand all of this o:
@@hiddleston4008 lf you need help or any doubts you can hit me up :)
Good luck Junior ! :-)
A por ello Junior.
Com certeza você aprenderá, bons estudos!
Stopped at 6:00 for a note :
It's also apply to memory and understanding in general , you need to have a lot of input when you want to remember some complex concepts let's say , and also you will remember better and fester if this input will be stories or even mental stories , if you will engage with the data from all sides.
No me canso de ver sus videos Steve, todo lo que dice hace perfecto sentido. Desde que descubrí lingq y su canal, no he parado de leer y escuchar todo tipo de material tan interesante. Es usted una gran inspiración. Muchísimas gracias!😊
Gracias.
Tiene perfecto sentido*
Thank you very much for your clear pronunciation
Comprehensible input for beginners CAN be compelling. That's my hypotheses:-) And I am trying my best to implement this. Putting complicated adult themes like history and culture in simple words in the target language. Shouldn't we all (teachers and content creators) aim at this, to simplify the path of beginners? Let's be honest. It's boring to death watching kids' cartoons or readimg fake-text-book-materials at the beginners stage. We need to do something with that.
Steve Kaufmann is one of those inspiring examples - invesigating, experimenting and motivating. Thank you so much!
you are absolutely right. The early readers I had in Chinese over 50 years ago, such as 20 lectures in Chinese culture, in simplified language, were perfect. We need interesting adult content with slightly simplified vocabulary such that the learner has the impression that he or she is being treated like an adult and offered adult content which is easier than truly authentic content that the learner might find independently. That is a major job for language teachers, finding or creating this kind of content and supporting and encouraging the learners. Explaining the language is very much a less important task. There's lots of explanation out their in books and on the Internet. Besides the explanations have a little effect until a learner has had enough experience with the language and exposure to the language.
It would be good if someone came up with a standard framework for creating compelling comprehensible input.
Thank you very much Steve
I reached a B2/C1 level in Spanish within a year starting from scratch with comprehensible input and C1/C2 in English.
It works!
Giuseppe Bonelli how it your english today?
Luciana Jesus Profiro I sat for the IELTS in April 2014 and got an overall score of 6.5 out of 9.
If I'd sat today, I think I'd get at least an 8/8.5
Giuseppe Bonelli I feel the same with Spanish, But I'm a B1. I feel like I can read, text, and write but i can't really speak. Any tips for speaking?? :)
Mark Robinson for speaking try to guess? You must speak.and listening helps a lot. Reading out loud, also helps, getting an image and try to say what's in it
Giuseppe Bonelli thanks a lot!! This will help.
This theory gives me hope. I am an English learner, majoring in English here in the States, and trying to be a professor in that area.
I wish the end of the hockey stick was also curved. Such slow progression in the later periods! :)
Thanks for the CI reflections!
@Steve Kaufmann So after coming across this concept the first time it just made so much sense because this is how we learned as children! Now being an adult I found that if one of knows a story in their language which has been translated from another language this helps tremendously.
In practice I am starting with the Bible since I have mastered it well in English. Now I found from my early experience that because I am already familiar with the Latin alphabet, reading the Bible in Latin was not difficult; Koine Greek was a bit more difficult but not completely foreign as I was used to tracing the etymology of words and becoming familiar with Latin and Greek terms; the most difficult by far is Hebrew, but because I saw the connection between the letters of the three aforementioned alphabets and how our letters came from the Hebrews the connections in sounds and concepts aren't hard to see.
@Steve Kaufmann And without being able to explain exactly how the meanings and translations of words came about in my mind: I find that knowing the story well in my native language at birth and having an interest has helped tremendously.
This is really helpful. I have to teach my native language to new students and struggled cause it was my first time. And I think I got a sense of how I will teach. Thanks~ :)
Hope it went well :1
para los que apenas empezamos en el ingles otro canal genial para realizar unas buenas clases es este @
great explanation
I liked the point about learners who didnt know what their book was about versus the ones who did. I read a novel and I definitely would've got on better if I knew what it was about. Then I wouldn't have to try figuring out what was going on and I could shift more focus on reading
thank you so much Steve!!
Very very helpful!!!! Thank you.
I want to learn Russian. With the alphabet already in my mind since a high school bet, I now started last week to revisit basic words and further deep dive into the vocabulary. The best way of learning I found, is by watching some English vlogger walk around the fallen USSR, talking and drinking with the locals, hahah... It's working!
Basic conversation mixed with enjoyable content always works.
I can now be charismatic enough to get one Russian on the friendly side and start a simple convo.
I love it.
PS: I do get to have an advantage: Russian grammar gets quite close to my native language, Romanian, so it doeas make the process better, even though I learn it through English.
you are talking about „Bald and Bankrupt“ aren‘t you? Big fan of him and also larning russian..
So deep down, to acquire a foreign language, learners should have the motivation to learn this language themselves. Teachers cannot really tempt them by using compelling content at first.
I feel like I'm learning how to learn
Remarkably handy🙏🏻❤️
I think that some "front loading" of grammatically syntax (not necessarily detailed grammar) allows me to attempt to acquire harder "comprehensible input", or acquire easier "comprehensive input" faster. I.e. this speeds up the acquition of language skills, as more or faster input reaches the LAD in Krashen's model that turns into acquired language
So, I think that this "front loading" of essential grammar will speed up the knowledge acquisition process more than just reading or hearing comprehensible input without some knowledge of the high level rules of grammar.
The reason I posit this hypothesis is that grammar allows us to grasp and decode word order, the tense we are reading or listening too far easier and faster than attempting to do this on our own with no guidance.
Sure, some people could learn a language just using the learning approach with input (comprehensible or not), as there are always a certain number of people who have such minds and skills and can manage this.
In fact, I am pretty sure there are gifted people in the world who could learn another language no matter what method they used!
Using learned language, especially grammar and some culture, in the way described also helps improve the efficiency of the monitor system in Steve Krashen model and eventually will lead to a very good understanding of grammar, as you see, you are acquiring and monitoring grammar too 😀.
Clearly, you want to maximise the benefits of the acquisition method whilst minimising the cost of the overhead of studying at least the structures of grammar like types of clauses, tenses, word order and what parts of the language generally get conjugated or declined and which parts don't and what the range of these variations might be without studying them in detail ... a sort of "Grammar lite".
I'd guess a good balance between comprehensive input vs learning would be 80% to 20%. Many people think that learning grammar is boring, so for these people I suggest "just in time" grammar learning to support the "comprehensible input" being consumed.
My gut feeling is that this combined approach would lead to proficiency 5 to 10% faster with a lot less output errors.
Of course, none of the above is going to really improve your speaking ability.
Sure, acquition, learning and monitoring will allow you to assemble words in more or less the correct order that you want to communicate, and this is probably good enough to write quite well in the target language, as you have plenty of time to think about what you want to write and you aren't overloading your short term memory either with your "constructed in the head word by word output."
But speaking is entirely a different matter. You can muddle through with just acquisition, learning and monitoring, but to really master speaking, you need to speak and speak very often in the target language so that the monitor system isn't required to do so much work and because practice allows you to "chunk" speak words and so don't have to spend so much time in your head constructing the sentences you are going to say.
Steve is the OG for language learning!
Steve是语言学习的老炮!
fact bro well said
In my understanding, comprehensible input is very simple, All stuffs that you see , read and listen , need to have a translation in your mother tongue, then you acquire these informations and the you learn 👍
Hi Steve. I listened to your video and most of it was what I expected since I love learning languages. But one point you made hit the bull's eye with me and I wanted to point out why. You said that your son listened to stories 40 to 50 times and you did the same. The reason I think that this is necessary and works is that it takes that toddler amount of repetition until the target word immediately conjures its meaning to you, instead of thinking Oh, that means...." in your first language. When the thing itself pops up, not what it means, you are getting comprehensible input. It's not translated, it conveys meaning directly, with no filter. Until this becomes possible, all face-to-face conversation is bound to fail because the amount of processing time necessary for comprehension kills the conversation, not even counting the obstacles of new vocabulary that jump up in every sentence.
When I lived in Japan, I could never grasp how expensive things were when they were priced in yen. I had to do the mental calculation everywhere, at stores, restaurants, price tags, billboards. My American friend said, "Why don't you just think of prices in yen?" The reason is, that who I am thinks in dollars. It's like the research on why some people can't lose their accents while others can. It's because of Who I see themselves to be. Dollars were an anchor point of my understanding of value.
In other words, I think the term CI is too loose to be helpful. You need input that is directly comprehensible as itself, not as indirectly or even subconsciously translated. That happens after 40 or 50 repetitions, not after one reading where you looked up the words, or a few subsequent readings where you recognize the new words if you check their meaning in your mind. You have to be willing to surrender the seniority of your native language, and persist until that pattern can be sustained. There comes a point when you throw your crutches and walk! Or rather, a thousand little points where you throw down your crutches and walk. It is exhilarating when it starts to happen!
They see themselves to be. (It was late.)
Very helpful as always. I have been following this approach thanks to your channel and found an online newspaper in my target language which is written in a simple way. Using Google translate I'm able to look up words I don't know. As well as getting really interesting information about current affairs etc some of the vocabulary is repeated often (politics, crime, sport) but with sufficient new words to push me. I definitely think it is helping me
The maın problem to be solved is to find something really interesting to you.
And thereafter, to read and listen regulary, moving forward constantly. I have read a quarter of my book already (10-15 lines a day), and I am refering to google-translator constantly.
Sometimes some google's interpretations ar wrong but by being aquianted with what is really going on in the book (the plot), I choose the correct variant easily.
what is the name of newspaper
There is a newspaper designed for Norwegian learners Klar Tale, which has an online addition and an audio version. For Welsh Golwg 360
@@stepheng9607 oh I'm learning English, i have heard about English language acqu6, I dk how does that work , they said comprehensible input . where can I find them . what materials should I choose
@@akramobada read what interests you or that you need to know about. I am not really interested in fiction so reading novels is not interesting. Reading the news is interesting. Also it helps with the vocabulary when watching tv news and gives you something to talk about with native speakers. The important thing is comprehensible. This means you are not looking up too many words. Using a translation app helps. You could also look for resources that are written for people with reading issues. They might be easier to read
I learned a lot from this video, thx 🙏🏻
Thank you very much, sir
Bonjour Steve, je vous écris en Français car je sais que vous aimez notre langue, vous êtes un exemple pour moi, vous avez dans les 70 ans je pense et vous êtes toujours aussi actif, toujours cette envie d'apprendre, vous avez une mémoire formidable et une bonne forme physique, j'espère vous ressembler à votre âge. A bientôt. Anthony
Merci.
Great explanation lingo Steve. Be cool to grab a coffee one time if your ever in Kelowna. Cheers richard. (Spanish, French, english).
I look forward to doing that. If I am heading that way I'll mention it in a video
I spent about a year learning Dutch (as a native English speaker, so it is a very closely related language) doing duolinguo deliberately studying grammar, and I got absolutely nowhere. I'd say after about a year I was at maybe an A1 to low A2 level at most. About 3-4 months ago I decided to change it up and focus on listening to comprehensible podcasts and tv shows about 1-2 hours per day, and my ability to understand both written and spoken dutch has increased tenfold. About a year ago when I was focusing on language learning apps and other instant gratification programs my own cognitive dissonance would not let me accept the fact that it was not helping. It is really hard to accept that what you have been doing for so long is (mostly) useless.
I agree with you. Apps are only good as a complement for learning, and Duolingo is great as a game to practice, however they shouldn’t be our only learning method.
Your language learning journey sound similar to mine.
In my opinion Duolingo is dreadful: weird character voices, weird sentences, poor or wrong translations, some poor expressions in the target language, little to no grammar notes and a hard core woke agenda. I am using Babbel for German from scratch, it’s far. superior. But yes it’s not enough on its own, and I will use comprehensible input at some stage.
In my opinion Duolingo is dreadful: weird character voices, weird sentences, poor or wrong translations, some poor expressions in the target language, little to no grammar notes and a hard core woke agenda. I am using Babbel for German from scratch, it’s far. superior. But yes it’s not enough on its own, and I will use comprehensible input at some stage.
Thanks so much
A Canadian uses a hockey stick metaphor... tres comun. As far as I've seen, TPRS is so far, the best method for language teaching/learning at the moment. Give Blaine Ray what is due to him, mention his name. Also, as a teacher, one needs to address the fact that many people are illiterate in their L1 or their mother tongue. When we teachers are able to overcome that hurdle, we will have succeeded.
Thank you so much
Hello Steve, wouldn't you say that if you had an extensive number of resources that are edited drawing from a given and fixed word list (say the B1 level word list for the specific language) you could have both constant repetition (of the word list) and novelty (from the extensive number of material)?
Anyone has any tips on how to tackle Hebrew at the beginning? I want to read stuffs but if you know about Hebrew, it's not enough just to learn the alphabet to read the letters but knowing A LOT to be able to read them since the vowels aren't there a lotttt of times or you have to guest between 2 or 3 vowels.
I've been learning for a year now and my method always was: to find a text that interested me, to make it accessible by researching on the internet or digital dictionaries and so on. After half an houer or forty minutes of eliberate studying, I would go listening a lot and a lot o times. Once it's easy to understand, I'd go after another ext to study. Nowadays I still do it and, in addition, I watch what interest me on CZcams, being able to understand about fifty percent.
Do you al think I'm on the right way?
Sounds good to me
How do we find Paul Doucets (not sure on spelling) course? I'm in NJ and figure he's closer to me.
Thank you stephen kaufman I am learning english I am learning because I want a good job but I not have idea the imput comprensible is a very good way to learn lenguage and can understand I am learning with imput comprensible
And i can understand very much but i need more words and i need more because I want bee C1 in english
Enjoyed❤❤❤❤
Sem duvidas.
I've been studying with comprehensible input for 6 months now and I have improved so much with my target language. Now I can't think of studying any other way.
Me too. I prioritised comprehension this year, and it improved from my weakest relative area to my strongest area. My speaking ability hasn't improved that much, but I'm hoping that will improve soon.
I want to learn a language the written form of which is non-phonetic. Thus, the written form does not aid learning to listen and speak. In such case, what sorts of things are "comprehensible input" especially at the beginning steep curve? There are a few video study aids showing pictures, so learning individual nouns can be with visual aids. But what about everything else?
steve tengo una pregunta, digamos que quiero usar un recurso con input por mis oidos y otro recurso con input leyendo, que porcentaje del recurso usado debe ser comprensible? 10% 20% 30% 50% 90% ?
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VERY INTERESTING!
I'M LEARNING CHINESE WITH A CHINESE TEACHER WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH, MY ENGLISH IS VERY POOR, I'M BRAZILIAN AND I SPEAK PORTUGUESE, BUT THE METHOD SHE USES IS EXACTLY THAT. I'M ACTUALLY LEARNING ENGLISH BY OSMOSIS.
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Hi sir is it helpful during the journey of understanding the unknown words in the target language be assisted by finding the meaning in an english dictionary? Will it constitute to memorization?
Hello Steve. Big fan. Question... I am reading mangas to learn German, it is wotking so well but I find myself understanding a word without being able to tell its exact meaning. Should I stop to look it up or should I just go on since I "know" what it means?
Thanks for your time
You listen to the same story 30 times? I've been doing it wrong then. I started using LingQ a few months ago and usually listen just twice. The first time uninterrupted with out captions, and the second time I follow along with the text and identify those words I don't know. I allocate about 30 minutes to an hour a day to LingQ, and that's about it. I've also been listening to Pimsleur French for a half hour a day as well. I might have to rethink my approach.
Please compare CI to the Lucy Caulkins approach.
I remember when I was young and was asked a question by an adult that I couldn't answer it because my grasp of the language was not good enough.
I felt I knew the answer required, but I couldn't string the words together correctly without prodding by an adult.
I'd would have been about a 3 years old at the time.
It is almost like that again now that I am on the cusp of being fluent in German as a second language. Tough to say the correct words in the correct order with the correct ending, but easy to write them 😂🤣😂🤣.
ty boss
GREAT WOK!
Comprehensible input is essential! :-D
Will try it I guess ;-)
It's funny because I'm using your videos to learn French and all of a sudden I find you here!
give me examples
@@athenagreen5390 same here
Am I right in saying that CI, in very basic terms, is saying that the way that you learn the language has to be interesting. Is this correct?
Yes
Relevance is so important for engagement
Sir could you tell me what's its implications for foreign language teaching ?! Thank you
I just curious where could I keep getting those materials that I can understand 10 percent?
I love to write things down, so after listening to some text I also write it down. I'm very divided on that, because some times it seems helpful, some times I feel like a waste of effort. Should I just listen and read again?
I think that is a great idea! That way you are really training your ears to listen to every single word and try to write down exactly what they are saying. I would think if you compare what you write down to the transcript afterwards, then you would be able to tell exactly where you had trouble with and what you understood correctly. I may try this method as well...
It's always good to write things down. It's good for several reasons: You learn how to write, it's easier to remember things and after writing it down you can say the phrases out loud. I heard that your brains find it easier to remember things when you've often said them.
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MUITO INTERESSANTE!
ESTOU APRENDENDO CHINÊS COM UMA PROFESSORA CHINESA QUE FALA INGLÊS, MEU INGLÊS É MUITO POBRE, SOU BRASILEIRO E FALO PORTUGUÊS, MAS O MÉTODO QUE ELA USA É EXATAMENTE ESSE. ESTOU NA VERDADE, APRENDENDO TAMBÉM INGLÊS POR OSMOSE.
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Do you know any programming languages?
Sir, I have a question regarding this subject. Could please help me with this?
no.
Sup steve:) it’s ok if i search the meaning of certain words while watching a serie ? So i can understand a lil bit more
Everything you are motivated to do, wherever your curiosity drives you, it's all good.
when should i need a ountput?? like writing and speaking
Whenever you feel motivated to do so. Good luck.
Iam learning English, me own method is merge the tips. For me, translate to my native language is bad. I'm my opinion, learn a new language with input 80 % or more, is the better way, I'm my case.honestly, i started since 2013.. only this year, i decide change my mindset...
When reading on my own. It is never explained by anyone as to what do I do? I read but how do I know what the words mean? Do I have to have a dictionary next to me and look up every word? It will take an hour for every page.
LingQ
i think for content to be really compelling, it needs to be relevant to your life or you really care about it. if the comprehensible input has less to do with your life at this moment, it's less impactful. i guess that's how kids learned fast, because the language they learn is what they need here and now, it's real life not just idea
Steve Krashen produced his paper in 1982 and yet his model does not appear to be widely used.
Спасибо за то что вы делаете, очень вдохновляет.Стив, сколько дневных Линков вы рекомендуете иметь? Я столкнулся с тем, что я накопил их больше ста и это вызывает трудности просматривать их каждый день.
Я создаю много LingQs и не рассматриваю большинство из них. Это невозможно. Лучше сделать больше LingQs. Вы встретите их снова в каком-то контексте. Я сохранил почти 12 000 LingQs по-гречески. У меня есть только 3 000 известных слов. Чем больше я читаю и слушаю, тем больше слов я узнаю. Я только время от времени просматриваю эти LingQs.
still have no ideas what material should i choose at the very first stage
How long till the next language is on LingQ
We are added Slovak a few months ago, Danish last week and more will be added over the next few months.
If you don't know even 10% percent of words in a text, you're going to have to look up 5-10 words on each page. Most people just aren't willing to persist with this, as it causes frustration and boredom. Hence the need for explicit vocabulary instruction in a classroom environment where most students are not sufficiently motivated to wade through unknown words by themselves. The limits of implicit vocabulary instruction are elucidated in 'Bringing Word to Life' by Isabel Beck et al.
Use LingQ for reading and vocabulary learning. More effective than the classroom and a lot less expensive. There are better uses of classroom time.
Hi Steve i like your videos too much i want to improve my listening pls help me I've been studying listening compression for 4 years but it doesn't work
Keep listening. Listen to material where you have access to the written text. Work at noticing the words and phrases. In time you will improve, it is inevitable.
Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve the only material I have is audio books
Hi Steve, I also listen to my stories several times. I download them on my mp3 player and listen to them when I walk to the metro station and back, or when I travel.
I would like to ask you two questions:
1) Could you please recommend a book by Stephen Krashen? I tried to choose one, but I couldn't. Some of them are older, I am not sure which one would be better.
2) I am at B2 level in Spanish, and continuing further to achieve C1 level. Do you think, it would be a good idea to start French at this point? Or I would mix them? I am also considering Russian and German.
I can' really recommend a Krashen book. Much of hist material is available free of charge. Try a few.
I think you could start French and it wouldn't hurt your Spanish, might improve it.
Steve Kaufmann - lingosteve Thank you, Steve! Then maybe I will check some of his free of charge materials first, before ordering a book. I have never thought that French could even improve my Spanish. :-)
This information seems relevant to adult learners, but what about ages 0-6 and then 6-12? I think there is a different in these two age groups in my experience.
I noticed that once I understand 30% of what I am reading, then I have an idea about what I'm reading. When I am up to 70% I understand most of what I am reading and when I am up to 85%, then I can deduce the meaning of missing 15%.
What about grammar? I teach intermediate students and find them making similar grammar mistakes often.
the brain recognizes patterns in grammer and applies them.
The brain also will recognize when things are said and will apply the correct words to them.
Forgive my ignorance, Steve; you have produced quite the number of videos through the years, so you may have talked about what I am about to ask you in a video that I haven't watched. As you point out in this video, the problem with comprehensible input (in lack of a better way of phrasing it - it's not exactly a problem) is in the very beginning, when nothing is comprehensible. When 0% of the material is comprehensible, it takes _very_ long to acquire the language; children spend years and years getting through this phase. What do you do to get from the point of just starting out and comprehending nothing, to a point where you can start learning through comprehensible input?
I've been thinking about this myself, and the best solution I can come up with is to indulge in studying the language intellectually for a little while to begin with. It's necessary to have a foundation from which all subsequent acquisition can grow. I'm not an experienced acquirer of language, so it could certainly be that my inexperienced mind simply cannot produce any better solutions on its own, presently. More specifically, when it comes to this phase of studying the target language intellectually, I'm talking about getting familiar with the target language's phonology, the sounds that exist in that language. I'm talking about getting familiar with the basic structure of the language, like the syntax, and memorising a few hundred of the most frequently used words. None of these things are meant as actual learning, but are meant to provide a good foundation. Like you and Krashen have been talking about in your videos, acquisition happens when information is related and associated to knowledge that is already possessed. Getting familiar with how the target language looks and sounds, and especially memorising a few hundred of the most frequently used words, will provide hooks that actual acquisition can attach itself to, and this should take a few weeks at most. Getting a good sense of what the words mean isn't important. The hardest part is establishing a lexical entry in the mental lexicon. Once established, revising and adding to those entries is easy, and that will happen naturally through comprehensible input. It would be interesting to see what your process is in more detail, although I can imagine that it may change each time you pick up a new language.
I very recently learned about Krashen, and so over the past few days I've been devouring material on him and his language acquisition theory voraciously. His talks on literacy are very interesting, and I must say that my interest in reading has skyrocketed to enthusiastic levels as a result. I've learned a great deal, and have through videos on the topic happened upon your videos with Krashen. This isn't the first time I've come across your channel, however. I've encountered your channel several times over the years, and you always have interesting things to say. I just had a look through your videos on this channel, and there are so many interesting topics! I really ought to go through them. I rarely subscribe to channels on CZcams, because I almost always find that I only enjoy a small subset of the videos that they make, but that doesn't seem to be the case here, so you have earned yourself another subscriber, good sir.
This comment turned quite a bit wordier than I expected, which unfortunately isn't uncommon. I hope you don't mind.
I just use LingQ. I have just jumped into our mini-stories where I have audio, text, and a means to look up and learn every word and phrase that I need. Now after 4 months I understand a lot and am ready for more interesting content. or soon will be.
Awesome video, not sure why people down vote it, they must be window lickers as this is solid advice!
E shoh qe ke nje liber rreth shqiperise. A mund te flashesh gjuhen shqip?
Suppose you are learning a foreign language and you are at a beginner level. What do you think of making up a simple story in your native language, have a native speaker of your target language translate it in your target language, and then read it and listen to it?