Allied Units Competitive Tier List | Red Alert 3
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Welcome back to our new Command & Conquer Tier List series. We're gonna rank all Allied infantries, vehicles, naval ships, and aircrafts based on how viable they are in the online meta. I'll also provide reasoning and a competitive analysis of why I ranked a certain unit in their corresponding spot. (Yes, Allies are OP. Most of their units are A-Tier)
Note that this tier list is NOT based on a unit's overall strength. Units here are ranked by their viability in the meta. You may see a very strong unit with low ranking on this list - That is because they do not see many uses in online competitive gameplay.
Time codes for units:
S - Tier:
Peacekeeper - 0:07
Vindicator - 0:23
Cryocopter - 0:42
A - Tier:
Javelin Soldier - 1:20
Riptide - 1:41
Mirage Tank - 2:08
Athena Cannon - 2:31
Apollo Fighter - 3:07
Assault Destroyer - 3:25
Aircraft Carrier - 3:53
B - Tier:
Multigunner IFV - 4:17
Guardian Tank - 4:40
Dolphin - 5:01
Hydrofoil - 5:19
C - Tier:
Attack Dog - 5:40
Spy - 5:58
Century Bomber - 6:24
D - Tier:
Tanya Adams - 6:48
F - Tier:
NONE
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Cryo wouldn't drive me so crazy if it was double damage instead of 1shot.
Nah personally what I hate the most is his shrink ray.
10 second recharge for ability that essentially turn your unit into a conscript in terms of damage and armor.
That's way too op and make already unviable late stage tanks into a scrap metal
@@danielsurvivor1372 Actually 7.5 second recharge and 24 secs duration of ability. That's after first HighTech Upgrade. So you can easily hold 3 units under shrink effect.
thatll be worst if low number MiG without Bullfrog Support against Apollo
It's ironic that the Allies are supposed to be the "Balanced faction" in the RTS Faction Calculus trope. :P
(Soviets are Powerhouse, and The Empires are Subversive btw)
Allies just a little more BaLaNcEd then others;)
@@benismann Yes, precisely. :))))
Looking at this list... there's a sick part of me that wonders just how evil the Allies would be in comp if Uprising had multiplayer.
Legionnaires in IFVs: Insta kill aircrafts
Pacifier FAVs: Who needs Athena Cannons anymore
Harbinger Gunships: Because Vindicators aren't enough overkill
Future Tank X-1s: Holy shit.
@@SoldierOfFate I LOL SO HARD. That Harbinger Gunships was so OP. 1 of those with 4 Apollo fighter could easily kill a Giga Fortress with good micro. You though Giga Fortress is OP? You sir didn't see the the terror of those combo above. LOL
@@zhaoyun255 The problem with Giga Fortress is that they have a monstrous price tag - 6300 credits. They would not be viable in multiplayer unless an Empire player needs to break a turtler and Shogun Battleships somehow can't do it.
@@SoldierOfFate Not to mention 1 good micro legionaire, 4 Apollo Fighters and 1 Cryocropter was enough to make Gigafortress a joke. More versatile for the cost. The Aliied is way too OP in Uprising. Or just the usual Vindicator, Apollo and Cryocopter is enough. LOL
Pacifer FAV: S, being available earlier is too much of a benefit in return for its greater cost, on top of it being amphibious, able to fight if undeployed, so building these means you likely won't need Athena Cannons or Aircraft Carriers.
Cryo Legionnaire: S, The Allies Cryo weapons are broken already, and this thing has an attack with an AOE cryo effect on top being amphibious, jumping, its durability, and how it shuts down enemy air units.
Future Tank X-1: S, this destroys even a Hammer Tank in three shots. I have seen these monsters take on over half a dozen tier 2 tanks and win. Even if you send in Tier 3 units their absurd splash damage means they still win, even without using their Riot Beams to kill targets instantly. And that splash damage hits air units! I have seen 4 Future Tanks take on 12 Twinblades (albeit with four coptors sent in first before the rest) and they won while only taking one loss.
Harbringer Gunship: SS tier. This monster can easily counter most of the units that are supposed to counter it using its chain gun, infantry are especially vulnerable. A group of 4 can destroy any building in a single volley, after they destroy a Construction Yard they make short work of all the other buildings. Their sheer firepower and durability means static air defenses won't stop them.
Ironic how the whole point of RA3's plot was to try and weaken the Allies. Textbook example of the Cobra Effect if I've ever seen one.
CRYO COPTERS. DEAR GOD.
Even AA might not save you, as if you are smart, you can park them right above a frozen unit. Since falling aircraft do splash damage... you do the math.
They freeze faster than an AA can kill them on one on one you need 2-3 bullfrogs just to win.
Javelins being able to shoot down even Kirov Airships in seconds with their laser lock reminds me of how Aegis Cruisers shredded them in the 2nd game. But yeah, heroes are rarely ever used often online unless it's to break a turtling stalemate (Natasha does this exceptionally well, Yuriko less so) but even in those situations I think I can count the number of times I've seen people use Tanya at all with one hand.
The Javelin's special ability might be like the Aegis Cruiser's unmatched anti-air capabilities... except it's unmatched anti-air on a Tier 1 unit =/
That's me, Natasha is easier with blowing up key targets such as buildings when needed, Spy > Tanya. If I need Anti-infantry, I just put a Spy in an IFV and call it a day, I can find Natasha already complaining about it. (You can only have one of her but you can have a mass of sniper IFVs) and they will outrange her, and outfire her
Tanya seems to be the kind of hero you need to slip into bases and blow them up or melee strike harder vehicles, via shrunken IFV or Century Bomber drop. She blows in almost any engagement.
@@Quadrolithium sniper ifvs:? what are u even talking about
@@e7danny7m spy + IFV, poor man's sniper. Poor man because Natasha still outranges them But. You can have many of them that good luck, "you can get one of us but can you get all of us?"
Remember that this Tier List is not based on how strong a unit is. A very strong unit may be placed in low tier because they aren't viable in competitive gameplay (think tournaments). These rankings would look very different if we were using the perspective of casual players.
Pretty sure the whole freezing walls and using peacekeepers thing is illegal in competitive play... Considering how it would allow a basic infantry unit to instantly destroy walls quickly is a bit unfair...
Note: DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THAT! I'M NOT 100% SURE!
Allied Air (especially Vindicator and Cryocopter) and Javelin Soldier are ridiculously overpowered, to the point of breaking the game.
In early Skirmish games Vindicators are often spammed right from the get-go. And piss me right off!! The Russians have that support power where they EMP-Cluster ALL your units up if not spaced out. Then vacumn them away!! Short of taking out there MCV (Or using AIR units.) is there a way to counter this from happening?
Hey man keep up the great work. It's good to see there's still love on the CNC community especially Ra. I can't wait to see your next game theory video. Keep it up my guy
Thx for these videos, really aprreciate your efforts! RA3 isn`t a game you see on YT very often, so every video`s like a fresh breath for this game and its followers.
century bomber and guardian tank D tier
put every other unit S tier.
Agreed lol
Almost nobody uses the Mirage Tank's Gap Generator...
Even us Skirmishers don't use it...
Agreed!! I guess it's only useful in when fighting with online friends since they don't know
I don't do online plays but yeah, its not very effective. I've only found it useful once.
It's not really used in tournaments either.
I think the Gap generator is good when you want to save some critical damaged units.
I guess you can use the gap generator as a ghetto black hole armour...
fun fact if you take the extra effort you can get an engineer as close as possible to the shore and deploy his medic tent which can allow you to heal the dolphins ....
:O
And here we are. The most OP faction CNC ever saw.
Even the Scrin was not this OP tbh.
The most OP faction of all mother of RTS.
Scrin is only OP if you let them get to the endgame tier.
The Ugly Barnacle yah that was to be Empire....only become OP once we get Shogun....
Oh wait, NOT ANYMORE!!!!
@@tuck295q Rocket Angels are OP...But have very low HP...
@@MarkSmith-tv6cp 😂 you serious?
Cryocopters are over powered
Allies annoy me not because of how OP they are. But because of how I'm too much of an idiot to play them to their full potential.
I remember how annoying just the AI were during the Uprising challenge.
The Soviet campaign in Uprising was SO annoying omg
@@n484l3iehugtil That FINAL MISSION V's The Soviets even on Medium difficulty was tough as hell!! (And love Tim Curry...SPACE!!!)
Nice series, helps put into perspective the very obvious fact that Allies are OP.
Maybe you could make a Tiberium wars faction tier list series as well, would be fun to watch.
I'm too noob at Tib Wars to make a good Tier List for it. Might do it for CnC Remastered though
@@xyhc-cnc That's fine.
I never played the original c&c but it might be fun to watch anyways.
Doesn't the Carrier's Emp missile get boosted by the High Technology upgrade as well?
Yes
Yes, and the fucking bullshit is that, EA nerf all Empire upgrades on every fuckig related unit.
For exp, the missile upgrade, it used to upgrade turret missile, sea wings (in beta), VX, rocket angel.
Now? Oh oops, apparently Empire tech only put upgraded missile in one fucking unit VX.
And then they nerf all destructive commander abilities like balloon bombs and final squadron to an ant bite.
Other factions like orbital bombardment or gay ass cryo can literall drop a weak builing or remove an army.
Empire doesnt have ONE ability thag can do that.
Oh Robotiv Assembly? Build nanocore faster! Oh my sooo gud.
And that AMAZiNG nanoswarm. 😂
@@tuck295q HEY!
Nanoswarm can be good...
Id your opponent us Allie's...
And they build Proton Collider
And you have inhumane reaction and intuition and you perfectly predict where and when collider will shoot and you block it via swarm...
Nothing complicated ehehehehhehe...
@@danielsurvivor1372 Just don't TRAP the Proton if it's already happened...If you do...GAME OVER it's too late and it now acts like it's on steroids!! I do love the fact it's a good shield if timed correctly. And supports like the Ultimate Time Bomb can be sent BACK using the Chronosphere to where it came from ;) Tons of good strategies in the game.
No wonder uprising don't have multiplayer. A gunship+cryo combo literally means game over for anyone againts anyone that has it
Or even twinblade + cryocopter(assuming you have control of allied expansion or mcv and airfield and soviet airfield
...there are people who mod uprising with net option in China, and the tournament results are extremely Soviet favored because their rushes are almost unstoppable in 1v1 map.
@@mhammadalloush5104 or have a friend who's a soviet commander
Only downside of allies is how awkward their teching is. The limited tech radius causes all sorts of annoying problems, and the Defense Bureau is incredibly hard to find time/room for, effectively removing Tanya, the Superweapons and Spectrum Towers from their arsenal. (Not that the really need them or that they make a big difference, but still)
Other than that, their units are always a joy to use and a nightmare to play against.
The only time I've ever seen a Tanya is in team games where chronosphere Riptide Tanyas are more common
these are extremely useful
Thanks, that useful.
Tanya in IFV/Riptide + chronosphere can annihilate whole enemy base.
I guess tanya deserves B rank category just because of this alone combo.
Absolutely. But this is a competitive tier list, and an adequate opponent would not let you charge up a super weapon. Tanya is strong, but no pros use her online
vindicator is so OP, it cancels out bullfrogs and anti air infanty, you know the units that are SUPPOSE to counter it. On top of that it has a shit load of health and its payload animation is way to fast.
The payload shoulnt be effective against all units. That was the whole point of RA3's design. I could forgive everything about the allies even the Javlin troops being stronger against building than yuriko, and the cryocopters being (easy mode), IF the vidicator had a serious nerf in its stats, and a change to its drop speed of bombs.
It's so OP it actually makes building the century bomber a downgrade.
Keep it up with the great content!
one question, to counter naval expansion using the Allies, is there any reason I'd spawn Dolphins instead of Riptides?
Dolphins should be faster in water but they are longer to produce. I read somewhere they deal group damage but I'm not sure what that means
I just find riptides more useful overall so I can't really understand the utility of Dolphins..
Dolphins have insane DOS and mobility. They can also deal splash damage. Overall, they’re way better at naval combat than riptides. Micro them well enough and you dominate the seas.
Oh man, its nuts to see the differences between casual and comp...most of the casuals I know write the cryocopter off and yet...
did you see my cryo rush vid yet? just goes to show you the potential ;)
@@xyhc-cnc I have not but now I must.
In my defense, most of the playthroughs of RA3 I saw were from years ago and by people who were...casual gamers at the most so.
I guess im a casual then
Late comment but I was one of those people.
Until I was in an early game 2 v1 situation against allies player. Should have been an easy win but man this dude had cryo copter peacekeepers micro on point. Had he had his team matr we would ha e lost for sure because we barely won that match. Came down to the wire.
More impressive we were on console.
Allies has too many OP units in Uprising. Cryolegionnaires are Kirov killers and ultimate AA inside turrets. Freaking Harbinger Gunships and Pacifier Cannons.
Oh, Harbingers easily build tons of those and a player is done.
...there are people who mod uprising with net option in China, and the tournament results are extremely Soviet favored because their rushes are almost unstoppable in 1v1 map.
Dolphins can be healed, but it's rather awkward.
You have to put an engineer at the very edge of the land and make him set up his medical tent. Part of the healing radius could spread on water, so your dolphins can heal in it. Though, setting all this up could require some time.
... I feel like every unit in B tier has better performance than A tier units in other factions. Every time I don’t know what to do in infinite isle, I build 1 dolphin and 1 hydrofoil to harass the third gold, and it almost always work.
So, EA meant that an Einstein-less west would be much more powerful ?
7:08 Weird, in Uprising it only requires Tier 3 upgrade , I guess because they added so many units which require Defence Bureau, they decided to remove that restriction on Tanya
Will you be making the RA3 Expansion unit tierlist too?
Awesome content. I hope you would make a new version of Tier lists featuring Uprising units and the Tesla Tank as well as their individual unit guides as well.
What a SHAME EA never thought (Or bothered) for us to be able to BULD Tesla Tanks with Uprising. I loved those on Red Alert 2!!
Do you play with the Tiberian games too? I'd like to see tier lists based on TibWars.
Also forgot to add that Javelins are also the only AA infantry units to destroy Super Reactors from a safe distance, only when using their Laser-Guided Mode.
Cryocopters special ability should be nerfed, i dont like the idea to make apocalypse tanks get crushed by guardian tanks, and other tier 3 stuff shouldt be crushed by those small tanks
Wait till you see Apocs got crushed by... SPUTNIKS, Yes, FUCKING SPUTNIKS. You can already see an Allied and a Soviet commanders on one team laughing about it.
Sputnik Crushed a Shrinked MCV and Lifted by TwinBlades
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cryocopters more like GGcopters
Tanya used to be unlocked with only a Max Clearance patches ago, we'd prolly see more usage of her if she wasn't locked so high in the tech tree
Probably one of the only nerfs to Allies lol. Wonder why they had to keep buffing Allies in almost all their balance patches
AndrewtheDuke true, we got nerfed more during beta tho. But once it’s officials, we still got nerfed, they nerf Soviets more because it’s the only factions stand in the way of Allies dominance esport viewing entertainment for Murrica kids.....
Someones been cryo rushed a few times ha
Interesting how the RA3 meta matches real world military design so much. The most used RA3 units are the most "boring but practical" for the most part, with a few high tech exceptions.
Wait until my "Cryocopter defies science" theory ;)
Cryocopters are one of those exceptions (as are seawings/skywings, tengus, and VX choppers)
take soviets for example
Tanya in D? My boy, have you seen insane Tanya-Riptide-Chrono combo?
No. No actual competitive player has ever seen that.
I can see this combo could easily destroy a base on its on.
S: OP shield of 99% damage reduction, We drop bombs and outfly AA, Cryo Copter with a shrink ray.
A: Long-range or rapid-fire rockets pick one, zoom units land and water, hide outside your base for hours or hide an army while driving with the bois to your base, laser eats units and shield eats bullets, we outfly AA and our base heals us, ship or tank pick one, if you kill all our drones you will never find us.
B: Gun Rocket Repair arm pick one, Turn on laser pointer for extra damage, water zerglings, oh you thought you was going to kill us? not if my anti-gun breaks your gun.
C: Dog has loud bork, Mr. Steal your boy, Based off of the Real-life Flying Fortress with no AA protection.
D: Don't let this woman into your home and/or job or you will be homeless and jobless.
Would put super powers. It'd be OP as well, not replacing that text.
Any chance to see your opinion about uprising units? I just notice right now in this vdo that a new unit for Allied is Harbinger.
Will probably make an Uprising vid this month before the Remasters come out
I just hate how Assault Destroyer's gun is just a mounted gun that can deal good anti-armor damage. The gun is even more powerful than Guardian Tank's gun.
I hate how arbitrary it looks. They could have put anything else there, would be aesthetically the same. No synergy in design between the weapon and the chassis.
how about buffing tanya so that she dosent need bureau so she can be used as a surprise attack?
so basically soviet suck, empire suck a bit less, and allied are straight away op.
nice balance
One has to wonder how the allies were pushed so far back at first.
@@dondaketype8811 The Russians threw enough Conscripts at them and reenacted post-Stalingrad WWII.
@@dondaketype8811 Their comanders cant micro
Thats why these game die so early. Proper balance in RA3 ? - eror 404/
404? 💦 💧 🚿
Oh and the fucking EA dev buff the aircraft carrier drones too even when they have super OP emp missile which they make the tech upgrade affects it too.
My word
The emp missile makes no sense tbh. Where would you put that in a ship that's carrying a bunch of drones? I think it would have been better if they made anti air/anti infantry drones the special ability instead
why am i getting so many red alert 3 videos now...
I wonder, why do soviet bots never produces dreadnought?
Tanya doesn't need a Defense Bureau, just Tier 3 at the MCV or Command Hub.
Whatever patch are you even on?
@@xyhc-cnc I don't know. All I know is the Defense Bureau is needed for the Proton Collider, Spectrum Towers, and the Chronosphere, but not Tanya. She just needs Max Clearance (Allies' Tier 3) upgrade at the MCV or Command Hub.
XYHC, what do you think, which fraction is most dependent on micro control?
OwlYaRly RUS Allies are the highest skill cap, so presumably they also have a lot of micro potential. But I think a good Soviet with Terror Drones micro the hardest
@@xyhc-cnc Thanks!
Did you know that if you manage to somehow get into a position where you can deploy an allied engi where it overlooks water they can heal dolphins?
No. Did you know you could get Allied Engineers to a position where they can heal Rocket Angels & whatever's man cannoned by Bullfrogs?
XYHC no I did not. Interesting to know if not all that useful.
@@xyhc-cnc you could but under very specific circumstances. When a vacuum bomb hits the medic tent it get sick into the air, sometimes it will be bugged that causes the tent to be floating there after the strike ended resulting it able to heal flying bio unit.
許進曾 yes I have that in my engineer guide
許進曾 did you know that the drones from the Allied Support Power “Surveillance Sweep” can get stuck on certain places in certain maps to provide a free, indestructible scout for the rest of the match?
I just want to point out how nearly their entire roster is in A tier.
i dont find this video
THIS VIDEO FIND MEEE!
And yet there are people say "Soviet weapons are better than Allied's in every way" or "They have their own strength", IDK if they're joking but I don't even need to play a single match of RA3 multiplayer to know how broken the Allied is. If RA4 exist Allied bias agenda gonna be more obvious.
My favourite is the Allied since they have high advanced technology to assist them in battle...Soviet I would rank them to second since they use heavy military forces on enemy
Allied : No Eistein? No problem.
lol
Please add me Russian subtitles, my English is very low, but I want to know what is written there.
For me, this video can describe in one phrase
"Nothing is clear, but very interesting"
I might find some Russian viewers that are willing to translate my stuffs... But thanks for watching!
Why don't you make uprising units too?
Someone Know how to counter artillery (v4,Athena cannon,impérial artillery) when i am building a base and turtling ?
Do not turtle. Bad move. Invest in units that move around.
@@xyhc-cnc ok thanks
Many people talk about the Empire and Soviets like a best faction and Allies are "weakest". But that is not true. Because for me, and I think Also in general, the Allies will be always best. Nobody is match for the Allies. Mirage Tanks, Aircraft Carries, Cryocopters, Peacekeapers, Athena Cannons... What else the fuck do you want?
Allies require too much control in order to work and some people don't like that. I even remember the first time i used allies i treated the assault destroyer like an apoc tank. Big mistake
Allies are the "Difficult, But Awesome" faction - it takes a lot of skill to master the utilization of their subversive and fragile units, but when they have been mastered to the fullest, they become extremely hard to counter to the point that they eventually become a "Game-Breaker" faction.
And don't get me started on Uprising.
Cryocopter....MINI PTSD!!!!!
I didn't know 0:28 it would lose health over time.
They do so much like any other air unit from the franchise that needs to return to the airfield after striking, although iirc, they start taking damage only after the airfield they return to has been destroyed
not to mention that Allied also has the ability to instantly pop up a missile turret for base defense which makes Allied more broken, and missile turrets even deal decent damage to infantries too! disgusting!
It is countered by the fact that allies can't build around their structures, only around their mvc. Soviets have the strongest defense with their tesla coils.
@@TheMagicMan299 LOL, good joke bro, took a look at your comments in this channel and they tell me not to waste any minute of my time on your arguments
natasha is still the best commando in game
actually... i commonly build Defense Bureau and the Max Clearance but lessly used Tanya. instead i spam athena cannons
You don't need Defense Bureau for Athena
@@xyhc-cnc i need it for pacifers in uprising
3:35 music?
Why peacekeepers are so useful from RA3 players ?
They can kill faster than the Soviet conscripts and the Imperial warriors with shotguns as well as they have riot shields which can withstand even tank fire
imagine if uprising has multiplayer
You would never be prepared for the Imperial's giga fortress
@@testingphaze4853 Or many Harbringer gunships
Everyone's simping for the heavy units but im just happy the soviets have the mortarcycle, its basically a weaker v4 but with the mobility of an ifv
Can aegis be used against super weapons?
I don't think so, but I'll test it out when I get to Athena Cannon :)
Allied collector is F
They only cost 1000 tho. Super easy to replace, also could deploy in dangerous situations so you can sell them for cash back / drop down a turret with the build radius.
5:58
Allied ? OP ? No... No, no, no, of course, they aren't !
cyrocopters
Harbinger ✌️✌️
@@jerryzapeta3403 I love them so much
I take it people don't usually play uprising in competitive?
You can’t. It doesn’t have online features
@@xyhc-cnc I realize that now, pretty shitty tbh. I personally love the reapers being a good jack of all trades/ impromptu turret unit.
Then theres the harbinger and cryo legionaries.
@@ShadowHunter120 i like the mortar cycle because its basically light v4 w/ifv engine. I don't like grinders tho, they suck
What is meant by OP and meta?
OP means "overpowered". This is self-explanatory.
Meta means "most effective tactics available".
naaah imperial warriors are still the best on what they do
Without support, a group of Peacekeepers will shred Imperial Warriors. Even when they use their Katanas, all the Peacekeepers have to do is bring up shields and wait it out. Sure maybe they take some damage when both switch back over to their guns but at point blank range, Peacekeepers do such ridiculous damage on top of knocking over anyone on the receiving end for a short while, and there's a spread damage so groups of infantry will take damage for it. Also compare their damage to buildings and vehicles, and the burst damage from both.
The Imperial Warriors fire a long burst but there is a noticeable pause whereas the Peacekeeper has a short pump for every shot and can actually get two to three shots for every Warrior's burst. They have slightly higher armour but the DPS from a Peacekeeper negates that and they actually win 1v1 firefights. If allowed to get closer, then the damage increases for the Peacekeeper, not the Warrior. Especially problematic when they rush on shielded Peacekeepers with their katanas.
It's even more pronounced that despite nerfs by the end of life to damage on vehicles, Peacekeepers are SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER than both Warriors and Conscripts at fighting vehicles in groups. It's not ideal but in a pinch, they can significantly damage or even outright destroy vehicles, especially light ones, alarmingly quickly. Not to mention, the Peacekeeper's riot shields allow them to take attacks that would kill other infantry, and survive (Yuriko's scream for example).
@@ReapingRose115 dude i play this game for more then 10 years, don't educate me about it. Ofc peacekeeprs are better if u just let the units battle without a brain, but if u control and juke with imperials they turn out to be better at offensive and shredding down infantry with their burst and run.
Old Tanya was way better
Do people still play this game?
Surprisingly, yes
@@kedarunzi9139 That's good if you ask me.
Allies Overpowered?
I would say they are equal to Empire while Soviets got the short end of the stick.
Empire has a lot of abuses at high level that make it very Easy for decent level Empire players to wipe the floor with higher level allies. Banzai Charge with a core, Wave-Force premature discharge spam behind buildings and of course tengu harassment (The viking from SC2 took direct inspiration from the tengu and transformation takes time to balance it).
Allies constantly bully Empire with fast Airfields. Empire is especially vulnerable to almost every single one of Allies' build orders (Fast Naval with Javelins, Cryo Rush, Infantry Spam into Turret Push, you name it)
Doesn't like Empire's transforming units? Say hello to Apollos & Vindies
@@xyhc-cnc Rushes are countered by scouting. The problem is vindicators need to reload, with correct timing coupled with early inf spam to stall the ally economy you can kill the 2 harvesters before loosing the tengus and that will kill the ally player.
If you master the timings/unit count; most ally players will loose.
It's like a zerg rush without a choke point to strategize with.
That only works if you are playing with absolute noobs that don’t wall off their refs and power plants and airfield then bomb split on all your Tank busters.
@@xyhc-cnc Not tankbusters, only IW (Take 2 bombs). If the Allied players wastes his time splitting bombs, he will get overrun by tengus and loose 2 or 1 harvester. All the Empire player needs to do is transition to a 3rd and roll out tanks and the Allied player is dead. It's the de-facto build in high level play although some maps don't allow this. The game is balanced but vulnerable to abuses.
@@TheMagicMan299 walls
Allies is not OP faction. Prove me wrong
czcams.com/video/lSY1Zi3JuVs/video.html
Ah so this is where the cancer "allies op" nonsense comes from. You speak of tournament viability yet forgot to mention that the VAST majority of tournament victories are soviet/empire players.
player skill matters. Those guys who win can win with any faction (if u watch their personal streams). Not playing Allies is a choice.
Tournaments are usually crazy one-sided nowadays, since most pros don't play anymore. You can watch some of Sybert's videos for more evenly matched games.
@@xyhc-cnc Not true, there is a reason DDF/Dimon constantly plays soviets. They would problably lose with allies.
I mean keep living in the "allies op" fantasy of yours for as much as you'd like, but know it is factually wrong. That you are suggesting that the one faction not winning anything in ages happens to be THE OP one on a competitive level is absolutely absurd.
Allies weren't overpowered, pro sovs/empire learned proper counter play to allies, which is why we don't see allies winning anymore. The balance in this game is actually very good.
@@eirikeiken Unfortunately all but one of Dimon's past streams have expired. Follow him tho, amazing Allies game plays.
@@eirikeiken i feel like the people who whine about balance are usually people who aren't very good at the game