Tesla Model 3 vs Jaguar I-Pace SUV review - which is best? Electric car showdown | What Car?
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Which car would you choose if you had to buy one with your own money, the Tesla or Jaguar? Let us know below!
I would personally buy the Model 3 I live in the U.S. with worse charging infrastructure than in Western Europe. I travel far distances often and the Tesla Supercharger network would be a game changer. The Model 3 long range with 18-inch aero wheels would be my choice.
Ipace is useless without fast charging network like Tesla's. It's also extremely inefficient getting only 230 miles from a 90kwh battery where model 3 gets 310 miles from 75kwh. I would like to see someone attempt to drive from Los Angeles to Las Vegas in an ipace, if it's even possible. In my model 3 it's fast and easy. Would have liked to see efficiency, software and safety compared as Tesla's unparalleled in these catagories.
I'd pick the Tesla. A long list of reasons, but the main ones would be the design(both interior and exterior), over the air update improvements, and the potential of full self driving when it comes online with a software update. I also happen to love the company and wish to support them if i can. I like the way they provide a 3 step solution to clean renewable energy, and the way they innovate.
Both are cool but I’ve been hearing jaguar dealerships have no idea how to deal with the first all electric ipace. For Tesla electric is their specialty. So I’d go with the model 3
Tried both. Choose the Tesla.
Been driving an AWD model 3 for 25k miles, something undoubtedly is wrong with your range test.
The WhatCar Real Range Test seems to somehow get far less range from all Tesla EVs than all other tests that I have seen. Just ask the current owners and there is no way the I-Pace has a longer range than a Tesla in the real world.
The I Pace I had on test did 220 miles easily on a mix of town and A road with usual 60 mile range remaining...Tesla 3 I had on test 245 miles with 20 showing as remaining..so not a lot in it
@@alanwayte1688 Electric car range is so dependent on variables that you really have to do a very careful controlled experiment to show anything meaningful. I can make my model 3 last 400 miles and I can make it last 200, easily.
Oh my god talk about stating the obvious....I actually have driven both....there is nothing between them in the real world...What Car has a reputation for unbiased testing...live with it....
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
To me a regular LR AWD would be such a better buy than the Ipace and you pocket $20k
@Jonathan Young I think that in 20 years you'll be able to get a Tesla with a degraded battery for very very cheap but it will still be a great car for shorter range use. Think perfect car to buy your high schooler.
@Jonathan Young Unless you have owned some pretty quick cars, the S+ is still likely to be quicker/faster and have better performance than anything else you have owned. That's one of the best things about the Model 3. Even the base versions are quick and fun!
@Jonathan Young Haha, yeah, the 2020 roadster is going to be absolutely insane.
I went for the AWD model. Have some pretty nasty winters in the midwest. I couldn't convince myself (of my wife :-P) to want to go for the performance package for the extra cost. But ALL of the Model 3 trims are quick. Pre-welcome to the club. ;-)
You are the ONLY ONE in the WORLD to say that the I-Pace has a higher range than the Model 3 in _"real"_ conditions.
You know its a paid ad when he says at the start of the video that the jaquar is the better buy than model 3 at twice the cost.
That's because they do dealership work for Jag, not for Tesla. Can you trust a car dealer?
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To be fair, they tested the Performance Model 3 with 20 wheels, and that means Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. Those big heavy wheels and sticky tires reduce range, but also provide handling and grip that the reviewer appreciated. See teslike.com/range.
iPace invented new term: Electron-guzzler
Funny how a car that was advertised by Jag as having a 655l boot can store less than a car with 525l combined , while the model Y would be a better match, nowadays in term of size the model 3 it's the closest to an I-pace (actually the model 3 has got more space in the front and more storage capacity).
Jaguar and LandRover are in the habit of measuring luggage space to the roof while other car manufacturers measure to the parcel shelf. Compare the Range Rover Vogue at over 900 liters with an Audi Q7 at less than 800 liters with the rear seats folded and it is soon obvious that LandRover use a different measurement system.
My father has an I Pace and he's never been even close to the 400+km you claim, whether he's done long or short distance driving. I call bs.
The Model X Standard Range is more efficient and goes further than the i-Pace ... and Model 3 is even more efficient than the X ...
I dove 380 km in my I-Pace the other day. At speeds under 100 km/h it's actually remarkably efficient even compared to my old Model S. When speed picks up though the disadvantage in aerodynamics compared to the Tesla's makes more of a difference
@@EdvardHolst "At speeds under 100 km/h" - LOL. Yes, any EV's range can be increased significantly by driving it slowly. Model 3 has been hypermiled to nearly 1000km by driving it around a track at a snail's pace.
One uses drivecycles for a reason - so that all vehicles are tested in the same manner. And whether that's NEDC, WLTP, or EPA (US06+HWFET), I-Pace and Model 3 aren't even close to each other (the former having dramatically less range than the latter).
I also tested an IPace for a week. When the weather was 25 degrees I took it from Bham to London and bk. So actually, I too got similar results. Remarkable considering Jag is a quarter the size of Tesla (by sales) and this is their first go at an EV.
@@EdvardHolst this is good to know, I'd say 90% of my driving is under 100km/h and sadly much of it averaging more like 20km/h. Though I think Tesla has the right idea with the superchargers when you need to do longer distance and that is what will sway me to Tesla.
Let's be realistic, Jag will probably use Tesla batteries and charging network in less than a decade, as will most other manufacturers, so the playing field will level out. Until then, Tesla is leading the way on the technology and steadily catching up on build quality.
5:10 complains about the gloss black finish in the Model 3
8:19 likes the gloss black finish in the I-Pace
What?? They’re the same gloss black finish mate
B I A S
Or he just feels the gloss black in the iPace is higher quality ? Like the rest of the interior materials the build quality is far superior to Tesla’s
True.
journalist are always indepedant... lol
Watch the EVM test on the i-pace.
In sunlight, neither the driver nor the passenger could see the whole information screen (Inc navigation), without shifting around, distracting when driving.
Something is very wrong in your review. I highly doubt your range for the Model 3. I have never gotten less than 280 miles on a full charge even when driving for extended periods at 75 MPH or greater. Granted my 3 is a LR, not performance, but I have the 19" sticky tyres, and am known to have a heavy foot. Also you failed to show that the I-Pace back seat headroom is severely compromised in the middle limiting it to 4 adults, while the Model 3's can fit five. We have traveled over 600 miles with 3 adults in the back and got no complaints.
Yes but I Pace is American build quality...so liable to fall apart very quickly...
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto the website, they don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
lane johnson Recommend usable battery NOT usable battery. So your math is skewed.
"Something is very wrong in your review. I highly doubt your range for the Model 3. I have never gotten less than 280 miles on a full charge"
Perhaps there was something wrong with the specific unit that was tested. Wouldn't be a huge wonder.
My boss has a ipace and i have a model 3. We drove feom Amsterdam to austria. Started together with full charge but he had to stop much sooner to charge then me. And it took him much longer to charge. The ipace is not suitable for long distance travel. Perfect car for every day use. After this trip he wished he got a model 3. Forgot to mention ipace has only one fase ac charging.
oebydoeby Did you drive to Austria to see Max win the F1 GP?
@@hidekikomine1388 ja. Was de reis meer dan waard.
Now do same journey with two bikes in the back. LOL
The card is not the main key. It’s for guests and valets. Your phone is your main key, and you can have a key fob if you want. Poorly informed video.
Also if you unlock doors with the key and start driving within 30(?) seconds then you don't have to tap the card again!
Only with respect to that one thing, the vid is generally well aquainted with EVs.
Thanks for the info
The video also covers the app.
Can you share how the Model 3 costs more to service than I-Pace? Never seen this data anywhere....
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
I-pace paid this fucker
Great question. This is a repeat of the Top Gear bullshit. No real information.
That's because it doesn't exist. They do recommend a brake inspection and filter changes every 2 years or so.
James Irwin At the Tesla store in Australia they've never repaired a car after 4 years!
geez, to get 239 miles from a model 3p you must have been driving it like a crazy person, not a single other m3p has done that. Your entire review is called into question because of that. Bad form.
Not necessarily. I've driven 27,000 miles in a P3D and averaged 330wh/mile. Thats about a 230mile range. Cold weather, heavy 20" wheels, and highway driving above 70mph hurt the efficiency. Don't make the mistake of assuming the Performance model will go as far as the other trims with smaller, lighter wheels.
As a caveat, there are weather conditions where moderately conservative driving will get you the full range in the P3D, but in the midwestern united states those days seem more uncommon than common.
Stephen Hoffman is right. I have a P3D- (18"wheels) and it's pretty damn easy to turn electrons into thrills rather than miles. Also cold weather seems to cut the range by a huge amount, and the effect starts to become apparent under 60F.
They're lying. Just like every other corporate-sponsored "reviewer".
Model 3 costs more to 'service'? What does that mean exactly?
Tesla state change brake fluid every 2 years and check a/c every 5 years - and most agree that's not really needed. How much is Jaguar's yearly service? Servicing what exactly?
I'm a model 3 owner for a year. The only service I need is rotating tires.
@@HarvestMoonRadio I think they've recently changed the brake fluid recommendation to 'check' instead of 'change'? (I think it was the fluid bit they changed the recommendation for, but I could be wrong)
@@logicalChimp I was being generous there - Tesla basically saying nothing really to service yet the big car manufacturers charging 3 figure sums for annual service - on what? WhatCar says it's service costs were things like wiper blades and tyres. That's not service that is running costs. Don't get me started on the rusty brake discs on iPaces. My point all along is these reviews from people like WhatCar lack accurate information, biased towards their advertisers and pointless in this day and age. Complete lack of awareness by the reviewer here.
I wouldn’t go with the unlimited lifetime gear reduction oil. That is asking for problems.
good point about not having to adjust the mirrors and steering wheel too much. Once your individual profile is set up all you have to do is select the profile and it will automatically do all the adjustment for you, no need to use any buttons of any type.
And you get easy entry too. You can save 12 profiles so you can also have different ones for e.g. motorway or sports driving or anything you like.
Once you set up individual profiles you don't even have to select the profile. I have an S and my wife has a 3. We swap cars occasionally and each Tesla auto-selects the profile and auto adjusts your mirrors (including reverse look down), seats, and steering wheel.
The mirror, steering wheel and seat adjustment profile is electronic so that anyone with the Tesla Taxi Fleet app will be able to configure the car to themselves when they call the car. If you own the car, you are not going to be moving these often, and just touch your profile to get your standard positions. If you DO NOT own the car but are calling for a ride, your profile will load into the car while it is on the way to you. Can't do this with mechanical buttons.
See Richard Butler's comment below for more details.
Big Disappointment: Where's the drag race v. IPace?? Nah, didn't think so. The Model 3 DMP will eat that Jag for breakfast , lunch and dinner and about every other car you Brits have, including the Astons, etc.
When considering acceleration, Model 3 Performance is really at the heels of hypercars and Model S Performance mops the floor with the very best from Ferrari - SF90 Stradale I think?
@@RiseAgainstTheDevilAndGod Bingo, Joshua speaketh the truth!! Even the 720S has a tough time beating a Model S P100D Raven in the qtr mile.
@@alexnutcasio936 The McLaren 720S is only slightly quicker than the Model 3 Performance. The difference in standing start acceleration is not very much. First hand experience.
The Steyr-Magna (not Jaguar) built iPace isn't even near a Model 3 Performance in any performance metric, including acceleration, handling and energy efficiency.
Is your house at the start of a drag strip?. How often are you going to be drag racing.
@@Robert-cu9bm Stop Light to Stoplight!! Happens all the time. Some Jag in a Jag always wants to race!!
Incorrect about the key card. You tap the card to allow starting and moving. But it’s like a hotel key. You don’t need to leave the card there. Tap the card. Then put it in your pocket.
And note the main key is your phone which in this day and age and if you are a tesla driver you will likely have a smartphone.
Source; I’m an owner.
Eric Schmidt are you the google person 😳
Actually, you don't even need to tap the card at all if you select 'drive' (or reverse) within a minute or so of entry.
If this is Tesla competition than Tesla is a Monopoly!
Oh my god...actually try driving the Jaguar it’s so much more classy than the American thing
@@alanwayte1688 "the American thing" -- LOL. You sound biased. Beats a BMW M3 dude.
Highland Life
True about the charging, hired the ipace and went to 7 different fast chargers only one worked. Had to slow charge most of the time, so was getting around in a constant state of low battery.
That stopped me ever considering a EV.
@@alanwayte1688, cool... it will look great in your garage.
Stop by our channel and have a look at what electric driving looks like and do feel free to stack the i-Pace range against the out of town trips that we do in the Tesla.
Each time I would go out of town in it, I'd honestly be scratching my head as to where I was going to find a reliable DC fast charger.
That simply isn't an issue with the Tesla. And THAT, is why it had 400,000 pre-orders for the Model 3.
So as "Classy" as it looks inside, it's nothing if it's not going to be able to be used.
@@Robert-cu9bm Yeah - that's why I'm considering the Tesla M3... not only is it cheaper, but Tesla is the only company to have *really* put effort into a charging network. Other companies are rolling out fast chargers now (but most are still slower than the older Super Chargers from Tesla), but they're still only putting 2-4 chargers at each location, whereas Tesla typically put 10+ - so you have much more chance of finding one available when you need to charge.
"The solution for this is the smartphone key" 🤦♂️🤦♂️
That card is for emergencies or if you want to lend your car........ That *IS* the "S0lUTi0N".
I didn't get that either. Your PHONE is your key. That card is in case you've lost your phone, you want to loan your car to a friend, or you're handing your car over to the valet.
Drones on about the limitations of the "spare key". Glosses over the superiority of the "master key."
@@qiX2wf48 Totally agreed
@@blueblood2555 ikr..... It's just a key to verify that you're eligible for driving the car or not.... And not a physical key that you put in the keyhole and have to keep it there all the time.
@@dzerres "I didn't get that either. Your PHONE is your key."
No, the CARD is a key too. Model 3 has two different keys: the phone of the owner and the card. The user can use whichever he wants. Both are inconvenient in their own way. It would have been easy to make the card more convenient to use, as can be seen in the video.
@9.15..... grrrrr... the glass roof follows the exterior contours!!! Yet another journalist perpetuating the myth that panoramic roofs reduce headroom. On the contrary, in most situations there is going to be more headroom when a panoramic roof is present.
It's not a complete myth but in my experience it only affects headroom around the edges / frame of a glass roof, where internally it can reduce headroom significantly enough for me to be uncomfortable. I'm 6'4" and I notice this a lot as a passenger in taxis with pan roofs. Ironically, I have more headroom in an everyday Uber Prius with a glass roof than without, so no clue what they did there 😁
RandomShart clearly if you add traditional headliner below the exterior roof sheet metal, then the head room is reduced by thar thickness. When the exterior contour “is” the glass logic tells us there is going to be more headroom.
@@eurouc yes I think the reviewers confuse it with traditional pan roof. Directly under the glass you have headroom but around the edges there's typically an inch plus of liner that doesn't exist on the same model with standard roof. If there's no longer a liner at all then it's just like any car, check your have headroom before you buy it.
My Model 3 is easily the best car I’ve ever owned. So much better than a 3 Series.
Mike I doubt you have ever owned a 3 series
technically it IS a 3 series :p
My Model S is the best car I've ever owned. So much better than my old 5 Series. And yes Alan Wayte... I owned one.
@@TheNebukatneza In contrast my 2014 Model S P85 was the WORST car I've ever owned. Yes, I owned two 5s before and traded the S for another 5. It had the poorest build quality and materials. It was so bad there were $32k in warranty repairs during the last 7 months of ownership and the car only had 40k miles on the odo. I'm guessing Tesla has made quality improvements since then in both the 3 and the S.
@@alanwayte1688 I'm certain you've never driven a Tesla
How can the I-Pace be your 'current favorite premium electric car' when the Tesla drives better, drives faster, has a better touchscreen, charges faster and is cheaper than the I-Pace? This makes no sense.
its an ad
Reading comments below! I think What Car didn’t realise how Tesla people (including myself) are so vocal about the car. This is a good review for the Tesla... guys! People spending 40k on a car are going to research it... they will know about the key and smartphone access. People who buy the iPace were always going to buy it! What Car just said BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
Model 3 any day of week. Cheaper, faster, looks better in and outside and more charging points
Model 3 Performance also feels better to drive, is more efficient, has much better automation, etc. It's much quicker and faster too.
The one thing tesla lacks is a luxurious feel and comfort, you purchase a tesla for speed, technology and efficiency. That's why I went for the model 3. I favor the model s or ipace design over the model 3, but the 3 is worth it for the technology.
@@unlucky5442 I depends how one defines luxury. The quality of Model 3 interior design and materials is excellent. The ultraleather Tesla uses on Model S, X, 3 seats, doors, armrests, etc., is a super high end material normally found on million dollar yachts. It's very soft yet very durable. For example, all Tesla seats, both in shape and materials are extremely comfortable for most people.
The interior design of Model 3 is minimalist, like Bauhaus, modern art or a zen garden. The shapes and design are excellent. I think it's much more refreshing than having 100 buttons, huge instrument clusters that block the view of the road, etc. Some people find the latter luxurious. I don't. :)
All other interiors look overstyled now, compared to Model 3. (Overstyled means too busy, too complex, style for the sake of style and not function, trying too hard, etc.) Most of the accessory functions on Model 3 are automated, and all of the commonly used controls are on the steering wheel stalks or buttons or a very few fixed locations on the touchscreen. It turns out that having 100 buttons isn't really useful for daily driving, but do add complexity, confusion and cost.
To be fair looks are subjective. Agree with everything else though.
you have said it all
Y range test is wrong, real Tesla drivers like me, will tell you that 230 miles is bullshit. Just got 10k on mine and average 170wh/km=441 km range and i drive fast.
Can confirm. I have 6000km on mine and average exactly 170Wh/km.
Your not saying a Tesla model 3 is terrible, are you?
Yes but UK is cold and wet....real world has mix of driving..I have driven both I found Tesla did 280 with 30 showing in reserve and Jaguar 230 with 25 miles in reserve...so very little in it...the Tesla however felt from a couple of classes below the Jaguar...I think this test has been very very fair to American offering ....it’s a shame you have Trump in office as in U.K. it means anything American is seriously seriously uncool
Alan Wayte geez dude why you so rude? I mean not to be rude but you have a slight chance that your part American and I don’t think that you should say anything American is is uncool because you may use something American or just America related
Ahh I discovered why the real world range test is flawed.......going onto your website, you don't actually do a real world range test for the full range, you just deplete the battery, recharge to full (measuring kwh injected - i suspect incorrectly) and then do calculations based on a paltry 20mile test route driven 2 or 3 times. Laughable to call this a test. Big fail.
you make a big point about the adjustment of the steering wheel and mirrors in the Tesla has to be done through the big screen and thumb wheels instead of the easy to find manual adjustment in the Jaguar.
but, you missed the point, the only reason you would want to adjust the steering wheel or mirrors is because multiple people might be driving it.
on the Tesla, each person has their own "profile" which can be linked to the keycard or smartphone of the person that unlocked the car
so, once for each driver of the car, on the steering wheel and mirror and seat position and choice of performance settings and favorite radio stations have been picked, they all automatically happen each time that driver gets into the car
It wasn't worth talking about.
_That is what the Jaguar representative said..._
My 2006 volvo has this feature, Tesla hasn't really discovered the wheel here.
Woah that’s cool. Thanks for teaching me something new about Tesla.
00:44 He says the i-Pace is the best EV you can buy right at the start! xD Does it have auto-pilot? No. Does it have a vast super-charging network? No. Is it more efficient? No. But SOMEHOW it is still the BEST EV you can buy! xD I call BS! xD
Both Tesla and Jaguar have 8,000 chargepoints, across the US and EU. Both have auto lane-keep+adaptive cruise.
@@riggald9864 Not sure the jag has adaptive CC
Just checked, you need to add the Drive or Driver Assist pack for adaptive - base model just has normal CC
2019 European and World Car Awards says this is the best car (not just EV) out there
People died using Tesla autopilot, its auto assist.
Brits favouring the Jag? *Surprised Pikachu face*
But seriously... I'm not one to praise Tesla often, but this "comparison" is absolutely ridiculous and so obviously biased.
It is an Indian company. But you are right, it was biased.
@@stanspb763 Not really... Just because Tata is now their parent company, doesn't mean it's an "Indian" company... I guess technically speaking you're right, but most people would still consider it British, especially since it's headquartered, developed, and produced in Britain.
That's like saying Jaguar was an "American" company when it was owned by Ford a few years back. Or calling Lotus a "Chinese" car manufacture.
In response to all those that say he’s biased and pro the British Jaguar :
1. Jaguar is not British - it’s owned by Tata (Indian)
2. The I pace is made in Austria, not U.K
3. If you bother watching to the end - he recommends the Tesla over the I Pace.
You are correct that his range seems wrong, along with service costs.
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
Don’t know why so many reviewers even talk about the card (you get two in fact) you get as a key, it is only meant as an extra key to hand over if you lend the car to someone else or it needs service. The real key is your phone, and they set it up on delivery of the car and it works amazingly well. Super convenient, the car will recognize you when approaching it, you simply open the door and then you drive away without pressing any start button. When you park you just walk away and it looks itself.
Your comments about the Tesla’s key card and many others things including service cost, etc. clearly let us views know you really don’t know much about the Tesla. It’s hard to watch this review and get a fair idea about the Tesla’s true attributes regardless of who it is compared against.
He's a Pillock, thinks you have to leave the card there....oof..... He seems against it very early on. Whiny as well
Comparing a saloon to an SUV!? Yes that makes sense...
I've been in many saloons and yes, an SUV is different than any bar I've ever been in......
Unfortunately, at the moment only Tesla make saloons - the 'established' companies all went with SUVs
The model Y will be an cross over like the Jag with huge back space and auto lift gate!
Ron Alaska I was wondering if it was getting an auto or manual lift gate. I didn’t see anything mentioned, remember where you saw that info?
Sorry I watch dozens of videos, but I won’t believe it till I see it. However the X is auto so I wouldn’t expect otherwise. And I saw an ad for a power lift gate foot operated for about $650 that fits the Model 3!
@@Cjdergrosse It will have an auto lift gate. A Tesla employee confirmed it to passengers when they got to have ride in the model Y at its introduction. See the i1Tesla channel.
A crosseover
Well patriotisme is not a bad thing - but how did you manage to get only 239 miles out of it when the rest of the world gets closer to 300 miles out of it at 80 mph ?
They didn't. That was an extrapolation based on a single, non-controlled, very short drive. Worst "range test" in the history of range tests.
239 is not that far off the mark for what a lot of people are getting on the performance model. I think sensitivity to a colder ambient may have a much larger effect that anticipated...And England is typically somewhere between cool and cold. Anything below about 60F seems to adversely affect range, as well as regen and available power, until the battery warms up. This can be mitigated somewhat by charging right before driving. BTW I have lived with a Performance model 3 for about 10 months now and am speaking from experience.
@@johnmolloy4878 The Performance model is less efficient than the LR. Especially due to the 20" wheels.
Teslabjørn just did 400 km in the SR+ thats 250 miles - however at 90 km/h.
The cold doesn't really start to bite before you go lower than 50°F and only really packs a punch when freezing.
I have seen a lot of consumption data for the LR and they rarely go over 250 wh/mile - that should land you 300 miles in the LR.
Of course the 'operators' driving style has a lot to say and autopilot will also eat range (there is along technical explanation based on physics behind this but autopilot/cruise-control eats range).
I have driven a Leaf for 35000 miles and have no problem achieving more than EPA in the summer, spring and autumn - winter is a different story though.
But sure if you drive many short trips in either cold or very warm weather, it will cause a lot of secondary energy usage. But that should not be the case in a range test.
I would expect the SR+ to do > 200 miles and the LR >280 miles at highway speeds with the aero hub 18" wheels in non-rainy conditions, low wind speeds and at temperatures above 50°F.
@@renebergqvist599 I've been seeing an effect below 60F, and it just gets worse from there. The S and X have active battery heaters that mitigate most of this effect, but the 3 is passive (via inverters/coolant loop back to battery). This is really going to affect owners in the Northern latitudes. I live in Texas so I'm much less affected, but I definitely saw a loss of efficiency and range last winter. My lifetime wh/mi is around 280 and I have over 13,000 miles on the car (early performance with 18"wheels and aeros - non PUP). Still absolutely love the car... Just gotta know it's limits.
@@johnmolloy4878 Well - time will tell - i have my SR+ on order and I live in Denmark... not Canadian winter cold - but it gets cold. I have survived with the Leaf which in Nordic/Canadian trim is fitted with a battery 'heating blanket' that kicks in at really low temperatures (-20°C)... sure it loses up to 30% range when it is really cold but you can pre-heat the car on the home charger and then the heatpump is fairly efficient... But EV's just don't shine in the cold.
As the model 3 has a real actuve pre-heat feature as you stated - that should be better.
Yor consumption figure seems very high - if you have many short trips in cold/warm conditions - that is an explanation - or you are simply enjoying the performance model ;-)
Are you kidding? “ the best EV for I pace “? Tesla x and s has been in the market more than 8 years, and still better than any i pace
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
British really love their cars :D
Need to wait for a Commonweatlh's company to buy Tesla and then UK's boys will love Tesla...
@@vladimirtalijan most British cars, save for the McLaren's are pretty much junk!!
The best EV you can buy LOST to my KIA Soul 30kwh EV costing me £20k new. Simply watch a race between I-pace and Soul.
I-Pace lost as it is inefficient and charges the same speed as 90% other much cheaper EVs.
Having 50% more energy usage makes it 33% slower on any journey above 500km (after depleting the initial charge)
Tesla is better choice for fast charging and a better infotainment 🤓
Tatoum974
Yep, downside is any repairs.
Thanks for a nice and generally balanced review. There are however 2 MAJOR untruths.
1) Teslas are definitely NOT more expensive to service. They don't require regular service at all. I've paid less than £40 in maintenance for my Model S 85D during the last 3.5 years. Pollen filter + Windshield wipers. That's it. You won't find a cheaper car in its class or any class for that matter.
2) The range of the Model 3 Performance (even with the 20" wheels) is MUCH superior to the I-Pace. At least 30 percent better in real life scenarios, whether in the wet or warm/dry conditions. The I-Pace is a nice EV, but the range is so far from its rated range it's not even funny. That and it can only do up to 7kW AC charging. How do I know? I own a Model S 85D and a Model 3 Performance. My brother in law owns the I-Pace HSE. We've done plenty of testing and comparing and often exchange cars.
I appreciate that you are trying to give him the benefit of the doubt... But the bias was obvious, my man... He was not "balanced" at all here... Go back to 0:45 and watch for 5 seconds... All you need to know is said there.
Balanced? Really??? 45 seconds in and he declares the I-pace the best EV, BEFORE reviewing it and that's what you call "balanced"?!? LMAO... What you need is not "balance", it's OBJECTIVITY. The Tesla Model 3 is objectively far superior to the I-Pace on about every metric, except maybe interior luxury level. And even that is entirely subjective and a matter of taste and opinion.
Model Y will provide the smack-down to the Jaguar I-pace when it is released! Will be a much better comparison as well. As for your range test; everyone else is getting much more mileage for the Model 3 than your test did.
The legacy manufacturers are years behind. There hasn't been a EV made that challenges the 2012 Model S. The legacy manufacturers have finally recognized they are years behind and are teaming up together to try to catch up to Tesla. The latest joint venture is Ford and VW.
You're comparing an SUV to a saloon?
I'm sure the Jaguar dealerships will up the price and the service schedules but Tesla are saying you don't need to have it serviced that often, just tire rotation. Also the main key for the car is your phone and the card is a emergency backup. Dog mode, sentry mode and over air updates. Performance model means your real world test was better than Tesla expected. Ipace is good step for the Jaguar brand but should not be compared to a mass produced car.
Especially since at Tesla checkups are optional and do not affect the warranty.
Model3 - and by the way, the card is for emergency start only.
I'd only consider the Jag if it could do fart sounds - that's top of my features list when I'm buying a car and I'd have to discount any model without it!
I was taking my H.S. daughter to pick up her friends and go shopping. I preset the fart sound (the shortest one) to the rear right seat. It was hilarious during the drive!
So let me get this straight - every car company says they can produce an EV with better fit and finish and lower cost than Tesla but the only thing they're willing to concede is that Tesla has superior battery/BMS/motor tech because they've been doing this for a decade now... and yet somehow you managed to eek out more range on the I-Pace than it's EPA rating of 234 miles (you got 253). In the Tesla you got 239 miles while the EPA rating is 310 miles for combined city/highway. You therefor have a positive delta for the Ipace of 8.1% and and a negative delta for the Model 3 of 22.9%. You ran 20" wheels on the Ipace!!! There is no way in hell you got 253 miles on the IPace on a single charge unless you were on a 253 mile downhill grade drafting behind a semi half the time.
if the same driver is driving both vehicles then we can conclude that either your driver (the host) was driving the vehicles with different driving styles (one was aggressive while the other was feather peddled), driving under different circumstances (one had AC AND HEAT running while the other had no HVAC running), one of the cars had a defect (ie a really bad tow in or bad camber), or that all 3 of the EPA/NEDC/WLTP rating agencies are complete rubbish (there's an English word for you to you keep you chaps happy, Americans would call it BS) and What Car knows how to do a controlled study better than these testing agencies.
Occam's razor would lend us to the conclusion that What Car is either incompetent at testing or heavily biased and making stuff up to fit the narrative. Please, if you're going to start off saying at the 45 second mark that the IPace is the best EV that money can buy you have lost all credibility. The new MB EQC beats the Ipace for the same price and nearly the same class. If you have the money the Model X is significantly more "car" for the money.
The one thing I really liked on the IPace (I drove one for 2 days) was the offroading ability which is significantly better than a Model 3 (obviously) and slightly better than the Model X. If there's any reason to get an Ipace it would be for people who live in an area with frequent mudslides or who do mild off roading. Most SUVs I see here in LA never see anything worse than the gravel in our potholes so 95% of drivers here only use their vehicles on the road. And yet your review didn't even bother to demonstrate that. Pathetic.
Why did you purposely avoid comparing charging specs?? You made it sound comparable?? .."The IPace charges from 20-80% in 1.5 hours.." you said but failed to mention the Model 3 can do it in 25 minutes ? ... You also said The model 3 will charge at 200kW and showed it charging at 250kW ?...again you avoided the side by side comparison of the IPace with its 100kW charge rate ?...
It annoys me when reviews spend time talking about how the card key is annoying. I have driven 30k miles with my car and haven't used that thing even once. And I just got back from 1500 mile roadtrip and my best leg was 255 miles at and average of 79mph. yes, you read that right.
"If you have a slightly bigger budget, then the iPace is the best electric car you can buy."
Apart from the Model S, Model X, and Model 3 you mean?
Not quite understanding your sponsorship versus what you are reviewing. I clicked on your link, ask for a Tesla, and it came back with "Sorry no results found" (I didn't think it would because you keep mentioning "dealers" and Tesla has no dealers). When I bought my Tesla I ordered it via the Tesla webpage and some young dude drove it to our house, we signed the all the papers including loan documents, he showed us the details of the car; all in about an hour and a half. Finished, he called an Uber and returned to cyberspace. No oily dealer salespeople who jack up the prices and try to pull the wool over your eyes at every turn including the loan details.
You dont need to keep the card behind the cupholders you only have to tap it there when you put it in drive then you can place the card in the cupholder
Yes. No harder than pressing the start button on the jag ... which you don't even need to do on the M3 once the phone is used.
I have owned my M3 for 9 months and never used card once. Only my cell phone. Just walk up to car and it's unlocked.. and it's so hard for me to drive my wifes Audi Q7 and remember I need the key fob..
Most Model 3 drivers use the phone app for automatic access and almost never use the key card.
The crazy thing about the tesla is there’s no start button! Or off button. So the phone works really welll. You enter and leave the car and the car sleeps on it own. And locks when you are further away.
@@ericschmidt1987 Actually it's the start button that's crazy, including on fossil cars. :) There was nothing wrong with starting a fossil car by turning the key.
The start button came from race cars that have no key. It's silly on street cars that have a key. Added cost and less efficient function in the name of style.
Well...
First of all... I think Jaguar is to be congratulated on the fact that the I-pace is a very beautiful car...
Having said that...
The Tesla has a key feature that the Jag does NOT have... a SUPERCHARGER network that has actually proven to work, flawlessly...
As soon as you consider that fact as well, everything else (nearly everything else) ...flies out the window...✌️
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
A Tesla with less range then the I-pace? How did you achieve that? Weather you drive at high, or low speed doesn't matter, it won't even come close near in either, even the 2012 Tesla's beat the Jaguar easely.
Guys, if your range testing differs THAT much from every government testing agency on the planet ... you might consider reevaluating your methodology. Running a 20 mile test loop twice, calculating the kWh to recharge the battery to full, and then extrapolating the range based on the size of the battery isn't terribly accurate, as your results show.
As just one example, your methodology appears to be including the efficiency of the entire charging system as part of your RANGE calculation -- which is obviously an error.
Your What Car Real Range test appears to somehow produce poor results from all three Tesla models. Why do Tesla EVs do so badly in your tests? All the other range tests I have seen produce much better range from Tesla EVs and real world owners don't get such poor results. I don't accept your comment that it is because every other test involves driving slowly or gently. Bjorn Nyland just achieved a world record of over 2800km in 24 hours in a Tesla Model 3 long range at an average speed of 112km/hr. Hardly gentle driving.
My guess is its having the AC on, the M3 does not seem to be very efficient in that respect. With AC off, it would likely romp away with it. Remind me how often AC is needed in the UK? Compared to e.g. using the seat heaters, which is are more efficient than heating the air?
@@eubikedude na it's not that, the accessories have a non zero but ultimately very small difference. I put it down to these guys just being bad, when literally NO other reviewer or real world person has had these results.
@@stinger15au I hear that the heater in the model 3 is terribly inefficient. The air con is fine if cooling. However even with that the range is still terrible and the Ipace range is still amazing compared to other figures online.
From what other posts have said, their 'real world range test' consists of of driving 20-30 miles and then extrapolating the range using some dodgy math... They don't actually drive that distance.
As for the aircon and heaters - based on many other reports from those in both extremely hot and extremely code regions (e.g. Bjorn and others), Tesla use the most energy efficient options for both.
Maintenance and reliability issues ? for Model 3 ?? ...hmm..How does that explain the most satisfied and happy car owners ever?
The review is generally very well made, balanced and enjoyable, but there's something seriously wrong/unrealistic in your range testing procedure.
Seriously!
@@Wirmish Someone has to believe their revenue biased reviews
This review is a hitjob. They got 240 miles out of 320 for model 3
I don't know what happened to your Tesla model 3. when you talk about the range, I was so confused.
VERY strange
This brit got the quoted range: czcams.com/video/Px8iW75BDxg/video.html
Not sure these folks did wrong. shrug
Their "range" test was the most ridiculous "test" I've ever seen - they only drove a short hop in each car, not on a drivecycle, and then just extrapolated that out to represent the entire drive for each vehicle. Head-smackingly bad. Not just because of the randomness of such a short drive in non-controlled conditions, but on top of that, the first couple dozen miles of any drive tend to have significantly different energy consumption from the rest!
iPace S isn't on its standard 18" wheels.
Oooh is that perforated leather? Optional glass roof? Adaptive suspension? Metallic paint? Electric tailgate isn't standard on the base iPace S.
What other options does it have?
Right? Thats clearly not the base ipace at 66k
Any Tesla allows you to save custom settings for multiple drivers by name. You only have to make all adjustments just once, except for the rear view mirror. Even your preferred air conditioning vent settings are saved for each driver. It’s not a big deal that it involves more steps to adjust things, because you only do it once. There’s no way that most journalists will get this correctly, but it just upsets me.
All you have to do is wrap the center console with a clear film (if u want to retain the gloss black look but without the fear of scratches and smudges and difficult cleaning) 👍🏼
15:20 - Do you really think you're supposed to leave the key card set on a smooth surface while you drive? Even if you use the keycard (which most people never do, we use our smart phones) you just tap the card behind the cup holder and then put it away.
STill an inferior system to a fob which doesnt have to be tapped against things.
@@TheSlideshowtube The key card is a backup. The main method is with a smart phone.
I walk up to the car and just open the door and drive away. No tapping a card or even pressing a button.
Ok your range test must be wrong...
How about charging at home? 1 phase charging vs 3 phase make a big difference depending on the country you life in. Over here you will not be able to fully charge your ipace overnight making this a huge disadvantage.
Drove I-pace, crazy fast. Excellent interior and real leather , no vinyl. The problem is that this sport utility vehicle that lacks utility.
Tesla's approach to the model 3 is looking forward to when car sharing becomes the standard. It is that reason that drives the interior and the way you interact with the car as a whole. Since EVERYTHING has to be done from the screen, you can then control everything and place limits on what you can do and how much of it you get. That way people who use your car on a sharing service, can be limited to only certain functions of the car.
Car sharing will never become a standard, stop dreaming.
That's a 2020 model?? HMMM?? what's the 10th digit of the Vin#??
I kinda feel like you're creating drama with the Tesla card. That card is a *backup* to your phone, which works without you even pulling it out of your pocket.
Some comparisons
1. i-pace comes with keyless assist, to unlock the car. Tesla: comes with "You don't even have to think about that anymore"
2. i-pace comes with heated steering wheel. Tesla comes with "Oh, you want the ENTIRE car to be a particular temp when you come out? Ok. I can do that for you."
It's like you talking about how a flip phone has better physical buttons than an iphone.
The Tesla is _different_ in ways *that are better*.
The boot of the I-Pace isn't "much taller in practicality terms" than what you find int the Model 3. It might open a bit more, but it's not going to fit much taller things. So you can subtly transition from holding the suitcase *sideways* ("look how cramped this is!") next to the Model 3 to placing it *upright* ("see, lots of space here!") in the I-Pace, but no way that that lid of the I-Pace is actually able to close @ 11:49 with that suitcase standing upright..
exactly!
Re the USB cable routing. Not all phones are wireless charging compatible (ie any phone with a metal back to it) so it's actually a good bit of design on Tesla's part I think.
These are two completely different classes of car. Yeah they're electric, but that's about it.
Kinda like saying a Porsche 911 turbo is comparable to a BMW X5 because they both run on gas.
Well, in that case I am fine with that because here the "911" won hands down while being cheaper and more practical. Damn that Jag is an embarrassment.
The thing about the key card position for driving, is that it is only necessary until you press the brake, and select D. Then the key card can be replaced into your wallet or purse. I myself have sprung for the cost of the Tesla Model 3 fob, which gives me full authority even if my phone is not on my person or I have forgotten to power it up coming from a meeting where phones are to be off.
The fob stays in my pocket and I prefer to use it when in public places from my pocket to assure myself that the car has locked. It does lock on walk-away but I walk fast, and looking back to see the mirror fold has occurred is too annoying in most car parks. So tapping the fob top once gives me the reassuring sound and sight of the mirrors folding as I begin my walk to the shops.
I replaced my Range Rover with a Model X. After my experience with JLR, I don't think I would ever consider another Jaguar Land Rover vehicle. . Public charging networks, which are very unreliable in the US, would only be necessary for the occasional road trip as long as you charge at home. Still, Tesla's supercharger network is well maintained, fast, and positioned around shopping and restaurants where you park anyway. I was leery to purchase a car from a "startup" company. But after a wonderful year with my Model X, I am now considering a Model 3 to replace another car in my garage. Having owned vehicles from both companies, it's not even a question which one I'd buy. Model 3, without hesitation.
DoubleClutchOnline what experience did you have? Which location ?
@@anthonydayspring9923 Long story... fifteen pages worth of documentation. My first Range Rover was one service visit away from being branded as a lemon. So JLR took the car back and I was ordered a new one. While this was happening, I was without a vehicle for five months. The entire process was a nightmare, and I turned into a raging lunatic. I dealt with the Manhattan location, but they weren't the problem. I was in constant communication with JLR's main office in New Jersey. Most inept company I've ever experienced. When I finally received my replacement vehicle, it ran fine for about nine months. Then it started experiencing the same stalling issues as the first one. It was crystal clear that JLR doesn't know how to engineer a vehicle. That's when I decided to cut bait and sell it after getting it repaired. The X has been nearly problem free for 18 months. And it's an absolute joy to own.
When I listen to the audio of this review I notice some sections were added later. I think after editing the overall opinion was so much in favor of the Tesla you had to throw in some extra positive bits for the Jag. The only real flaw is the range comparison. Drive an i-Pace and a Model 3 London to Edinburgh and back... The Model 3 will be home sooooo much sooner!
Yeah I do that quite a lot. 😂
A diesel car would be even quicker of course 😊
I'm going to buy an ipace because I want something for mostly local use but can do longer journeys comfortably. I am going to have to live with the slow charging and reduced range - it's a choice which won't affect me day to day but I will enjoy being in it so much more when we do short trips! Tesla is a great car with much better efficiency though just a bit generic nowadays. The fart noise is another downer but I'll survive 🤣
I love the telsa model 3
So you are telling the ipace is the best ev to buy than the model while it costs twice the cost of model 3 and has no self driving hardware pre-installed.
Why would you adjust the steering wheel on the move ?
Not all phones has wireless charging.
Panoramic roof is what makes the headroom better .
Looked at both the Model 3 and the I-Pace, then rented the I-Pace for a week and then bought the I-Pace.
First off, the build quality of the Jaguar simply is a lot better than on the Model 3, both on the outside as well as the inside. I don't think that is a very subjective statement and most people who look closely at both cars will agree.
Second, I think the I-Pace is a much better looking car than the Model 3. That, of course, IS subjective and is very personal.
I live in the Netherlands where you will see a lot of Model 3's (best selling car in 2019 actually), which, in my view at least, make it a bit like the VW Golf of EV's. Nice for Tesla, but I like to drive something different than just about every sales rep around.
Have had the I-Pace now for six months and am very happy with it. Got it in November 2019 and am now at 12K miles with zero problems. With the weather getting warmer this month (May 2020), my range at 100% SoC has now improved to around 450 km (280 miles). That's well ABOVE the EPA-rating of 234 miles btw.
Average consumption has dropped from my initial 22-24 kWh/100 km in December/January to around 18.5 kWh/100 km in May. However, with the C19-crisis there are very little traffic jams, so driving is more relaxed and that probably helps.
Have had ZERO issues with the car, no squaks or rattles, very quiet and comfortable. Am very happy I choose the I-Pace. The Model 3 certainly is a good car and I can understand owners are happy with it, but it just doesn't do much for me.
This guy has all the "BUT'S" with an excuse for iPace
I have driven both of them, and ordered the Tesla . Best car I have ever driven .
On long trips, I switch my 3 to CHILL mode and get noticable range improvement but less smiles per mile... haha
Yeah its not possible what they get, if the tests are equal. On a model 3 perf, you have 73kw useable battery capacity, vs 81.5 kw useable battery capacity on a ipace. When the model 3 perf averages 120 km/hour, he uses on average 200wh/km which gives it a 365km or 228 miles range. When the ipace averages 120Km/hour it uses on average 311 wh/km which gives it a 261km or 163 miles range. So where did what car go wrong ? (its like what car, cruised the model 3 perf on 120km/hour , and compared it to a ipace cruising on 90 km/hour, to get their kind of results)
They did the tests with a trailer behind the Tesla...
@@Wirmishthey should release footage of the tests
While CarPlay may not be available on the Tesla, Spotify and TuneIn Internet radio are. No mention was made of Tesla‘s online connectivity. But it was stated the Tesla costs more to service - what service?
CarPlay isn’t the same as offering music apps.
@@Horizon301. True but aside from WhatsApp, Carplay doesn't offer much else...
Korus Gaming it does a lot, if you are someone who never uses their phone while driving then CarPlay is the only way to be able to send and receive, hear messages etc on messages and WhatsApp. Siri plays the part here. You get the notification of a message, it reads it out then you can reply or not using voice commands which work great. Brilliant system, Bluetooth is only good for calls and music. Some people won’t care as they use their phones to text and do crap with but I put the phone away and can’t visually see it. Shame others can’t do as such
Enjoyed your review, but the only thing these two cars have in common is the EV drivetrain. Is your next comparison a Civic and a tractor? Totally different purposes for these two vehicles. Range test is wack. You blew that big time. No Model 3 owner uses the card, the ap works just fine. Jag has nice interior but lags in tech.
Center console visibly flexes like a flimsy piece of plastic
"you can see it's pretty sturdy as well"
LoL
Exactly what I thought 😂😂😂😂
How can you start a comparsion between 2 cars saying “the jaguar is the best ev you can buy”?
Pier Paolo Polla I guess you assume an audience of sheep who share your biases and so won’t notice them. That was one of the most unprofessional ‘reviews’ I’ve ever seen.
Why the model3. The iPace rivalry is the model X is it not??
not if you don't want to embarrass iPace
sali man embarrassing in what way? IPace cost a lot less and better built, although that isn’t saying much as both are held together with sawdust and spit haha
@@mell3109 embarrass in every way. like 7 seats, better tech, better range with smaller battery, towing option, Supercharger network. Ipace cost £5K less, which is not a lot difference. Only idiot will buy iPace over Model X.
Really great review of the basics for both cars. That 239 miles of real-world range for the TM3 Performance seems quite low though despite you saying you tested it fairly. That's an efficiency of 314 Wh/mile!
Well done What Car. Tesla does no advertising, and you can only pay for a car direct to Tesla. So you had NO INTEREST in saying positive things about the model 3. BUT YET YOU DID!! I hope people recognise this and your credibility as journalists. You’ve early my subscription (and perhaps to your magazine).
Shouldn’t the i-Pace be compared to the Model X? It seems like you’re comparing Apples with Pineapples. This is local bias at best. You won’t even give the Model 3 credit on trunk space.
Overall a good review but some glaring oddness at the same time.
Range. Obvious one, something isn't right there as you can go watch any other range test and your tests are waaaaay off. For example Quentin Wilson just did a range test on UK roads just a few days ago and starting with the battery at 302 miles range, drove "100 miles" at motorway speeds (70-80mph he says) and arrived with 194 miles of range left (aka 108 mile range drop). A quick calculation says the Tesla stated 329 mile range would equal 302 miles of real range at that usage rate - and that's at UK motorway speeds even and not the more efficient, slower town driving speeds. This matches up with real world usage across hundreds of similar videos all over CZcams as well...
The "key". Sigh. Those are the emergency keys for when your phone is dead/lost/forgotten. Pop it in your wallet (hence why it's credit card sized...) and forget about it. Your phone acts as keyless entry through paired bluetooth and unlocks the car as you walk towards it.
Service costs.
Jaguar say to service the car every 2 years/21k miles. They'll sell you a 3 year service pack for £1000 to give you some idea of that cost. Jag (or any traditional dealerships) make more money on the services than selling the actual cars. They HAVE to make money on the servicing because that's what keeps the dealership network running.
Telsa servicing costs are approximately £1000 less than that (aka you don't need to do anything, not even to comply with the terms of the warranty... it's simply not needed). You should probably consider a brake fluid change every 2 years so lets count that. My local garage does those for £50. As the Jag service pack is over 3 years lets call that £75 for the 3 years for the Tesla.
By your logic (assuming tyre costs etc are broadly the same) £1000 is somehow less than £75. What numbers did you use?
WhatCar mickey mouse numbers 😀
Thought this was a really good review, commendably thorough. I initially rolled my eyes that the two cars should even be compared, given the different size classes and that the pricing matches a top-spec Model 3 vs an entry-level I-Pace. But if the smaller Tesla actually has *more* cargo volume than the Jag, I guess it is just about a valid comparison.
That said, the WhatCar real-world range test remains a bit of a head-scratcher for me. Several of the cars tested perform very differently to owner experiences that I've seen elsewhere, and these two cars are particularly illustrative of that.
You can tell he stayed up all night trying to find negative things about the Model 3
I have no idea how you got such poor range numbers out of your Model 3. I have had mine for a year now, and during spring, summer, fall I am getting just about the rated range, and I am not alone -- there are several apps many of us use that aggregate data from all users. My current efficiency is 95% (that is, 95% of the EPA rated 325 mile range), however that is lower than the average, with most people getting just around 100%, and many getting even better than EPA. So, uh, might want to check your testing methodology.
I have the same AWD m3. Lol this is a piss poor review in many areas
Grizzy Bear No. AWD long Range like what he’s reviewing
Grizzy Bear you got me. I see that now BUT, nearly everything reviewed are items that are equal like trunk space, range, screen settings, etc. Only difference with mine is speed and wheel size and I can say my speed is phenomenal and the performance is only a bit quicker. His assessments are very skewed
Not sure your conservative Tesla prices are current for the UK. Tesla support network is embryonic. Accidents happen, so time and cost of repairs needs examining. Jaguar i-pace is pricey for a modest range. How good is Jaguar's support? How many EV technicians and workshops are there UK wide? We don't just buy a car, we buy into a package of support. What Car needs to look at the big picture of EV ownership.
kjh789az
We know what tesla is like, so shouldn't be too hard to beat it.
With all due respect! Hands-down the model 3 is the better value! I’ve driven my Tesla model 3, dual motor, extended range battery pack, premium infotainment system, upgraded premium wheels & interior & I can tell you that the car has far exceeded all of my expectations! Also with over the air updates & I have received several but the last one allows me to use voice command to control most functions to include changing the position of the outside mirrors! Also I happen to like the piano finish on the consul & I have no problem with the backseats because I don’t sit there! LOL! Can’t wait for the full self driving update which is supposed to be coming soon! So I did give you 2 thumbs 👍🏾👍🏾 up for content & quality & I think you for posting the video!👌
Test drove the Model 3 performance and ordered it, then test drove the I-Pace and bought one. It is bigger, more ground clearance so I don't scrap the ground in driveway, and with air suspension raises for mild off road driving. I charge at home and have pickup truck with camper, so do not use it for long trips.
Low cowl height in the Model 3 is a seldom mentioned advantage. Allows for better forward visibility.
Was regenerative braking turned off on both cars?
Shame about the a) insurance costs, b) delivery logistics, c) parts, d) paint quality e) build quality f) repair costs, and lack of PCP ..
If you're referring to Tesla, the current Tesla build quality and paint quality is on par with BMW and Toyota.
Yeah, sounds like a Jaguar (Tata) alright.
@@LoanwordEggcorn I wouldnt go that far, but its getting better. Lexus is still the benchmark and Tesla is NOT there (yet). As to insurance, they are all expensive in that price range. Delivery issues are also being resolved. Not bad for a company that delivered its first car in 2012.
@@alexnutcasio936 Insurance costs may vary with region. Here in the U.S. some Tesla insurance is relatively low cost. The Model 3 is one of the safest cars on the road as measured by both U.S. and E.U. government (crash and safety function) testing, and some of the insurance companies are starting to price insurance appropriately less.
I suspect in the U.K. Teslas are still somewhat of a novelty and insurance companies don't have much data for them, but long term, the insurance costs should be *less* not more, due to the superior active and passive safety. There are many real world examples of Teslas automatically avoiding crashes, including many videos on CZcams.
Model 3 had the lowest probability of injury in a crash of any car tested by the U.S government, followed by the Tesla Model S and X. All other cars sold in the U.S. have a higher probability of injury. The recent EU crash test results were similar, but EU included active safety (crash avoidance) in their tests also.
P.S. I said Toyota quality, which is also high, not Lexus, which is a bit higher. But you should check out recent Teslas. The panel gaps and paint are at least as good as BMW. They are not as good as Mercedes, Audi. Lexus, but getting nearer. In terms of driving experience, user interface, automation, Tesla is superior to all. Drive one.
You haven’t seen the Facebook group of pissed off owners, I guess.
Thin paint, badly cured, coming off already.
I had the front end of my 3 wrapped in Xpel protective film and did the center console in a matte black wrap for about $50, labor included. The matte finish looks great and fingerprints are not an issue. Well worth doing, along with wireless charging pad and screen protector.
Those nobs in the i-pace look so retro.... :-)
And what's with the rainbow effect on the screens and knobs? Some funny cleaner used or do they really look that weird? I couldn't use them like that.
sorry, you should not compare these two cars. This is like compering Bmw 3 with X3, pointless in my opinion
Why not? Their the only two decent electric cars on the market right now (excluding x and s)
They are both on-road 5 seat EVs. Arguably the two best EVs on sale so quite valid to compare them. No one is seriously going to by an I-Pace to go off roading.
Agreed. You can compare the ipace to the Model X (or the Model Y once that comes out). But comparing it to the Model 3 (i.e. comparing a SUV to a sedan) is just dumb. People buy these classes for entirely different reasons. No one goes: "I want a sedan because my user profile is optimal for a sedan...hold on: maybe I should look at SUVs, too!" (or vice versa)
Agree! Compare model Y when it comes out. Also, why use Performance model for comparison, use LR M3, much cheaper and much better, IMHO
I considered both of these when I was looking for an electric car so why not?
You completely forgot to test the navigation. Will the Jaguar I-Pace navigate thru charging stations if I want to navigate to a destination too far to reach with my state of charge in the battery?
Hows the billing of the available chargers, do Jaguar offer any kind of support for just plugging into the charging stations and automatic billing, as the Tesla does? Because it's a huge pain to drive for example to Portugal with an electric car, without any planning - if it's not a Tesla since every bloody charging provider has their own cars, chips, apps etc.