How many pounds is enough for hunting? - Bow comparison for future Wilderbeest hunt - Recurve bow!

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • Comparing the legendary Fred Bear Takedown (not vintage) with the Morrison Max 6, for a future wilderbeest hunt in South Africa
    #superrecurve
    #traditionalarchery
    #beartakedown

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  • @peterjuulsgaard
    @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +31

    Both bows performs the same. 65# Fred Bear Takedown and the 50# Morrison Max 6. 162-163 fps. With the 673 grain Victory VAP arrow and 168-169 fps. With the 623 grain Deer Crossing arrow. Both are slim diameter with +25% FOC. Hope this is usefull. Thanks for watching.

  • @adamsecret9912
    @adamsecret9912 Před 2 lety +14

    I really enjoy your videos, your words, the fact you want to validate what you're showing, your curiosity as it pertains to archery, just all of it; you have a great channel! Thank you for taking all the time it takes to make these videos so people like me can enjoy them.

  • @robertross3358
    @robertross3358 Před rokem +6

    Eye opening video ! Very Informative ! Thanks ... the results are certainly NOT what one would expect , but a really important lesson to check your equipment and to make NO Assumptions . Hope you and your wife have a great trip !

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem

      Thank you. Yes we had a Great trip. Instead of a wilderbeest I shot a Sable Anthelope with this setup with no problems. I have a video of that hunt too, if you haven’t watched it.

  • @normandocaban1817
    @normandocaban1817 Před 2 lety +15

    I fully agree…….as an old 70 year bow Hunter, I sold many of my 60 lb plus bows and now shoot a 46 lb Border super recurve , which actually gives me almost the same FPS than my 64 lb BW using the same arrow . Why strain your shoulders 😊

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      Awesome

    • @benoitdelorme5256
      @benoitdelorme5256 Před 2 lety

      you need to try backwood composite limbs,is the best one over border

    • @Nick-wn1xw
      @Nick-wn1xw Před rokem +4

      @@benoitdelorme5256 he sounds like he doesn't "need" to do anything other than what he's doing right now.

  • @fishhunter348
    @fishhunter348 Před 2 lety +5

    This blows me away! Amazing performance from the super curve!

  • @pcolasoldier31
    @pcolasoldier31 Před 2 lety +7

    Thank you for the video. Now I'm looking into Morrison Archery bows. That super recurve looks sweet!
    I would definitely go with the lighter. More kinetic energy with an easier draw bow is a no-brainer.

  • @tradmanmike3360
    @tradmanmike3360 Před 2 lety +2

    I TOOK MY LAST BUCK IN 2020 WITH A #40 LONGBOW, DROPPED IN 35 YARDS. OH PETER, I FINALLY GOT MY 56" SITKA BLACKTAIL #45 AND AS YOU SAID, NO DISAPPOINTMENT! BUTTER SMOOTH AFTER UNTWISTING STRING THREE ROTATIONS. I'LL BE IN THE WOODS THIS FALL WITH IT, LORD WILLING.

  • @Jimpotts
    @Jimpotts Před rokem +3

    That’s so crazy !! Cool video Peter 👍🏹

  • @tradmanmike3360
    @tradmanmike3360 Před 2 lety +2

    GREAT VIDEO, CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOUR AFRICA HUNT FOOTAGE. ALWAYS THUMBS UP!

  • @ericmansfield3843
    @ericmansfield3843 Před 2 lety +2

    Another amazing video! Good luck in Africa. And Happy Easter!

  • @Timbermonkey360-em4th
    @Timbermonkey360-em4th Před 16 dny +1

    I have to say ,I was surprised to see that those bows shot the same speed using the same arrow at 15 pounds different bow weights 😮
    I have no idea what your.maxamun self discipline rage is, but I would have to say that the extra 15 pounds or so would make a world of difference at longer ranges ... If you're only shooting animals at 20 max it might not matter so much, it's when you start taking those shots at 30 yards and beyond that's when it's more critical to have more bow poundage to help with chaejecterrey and penetration , especially on those larger animals... Great video.. Keep up the good work ✌️🇺🇲

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 16 dny

      Of course two bows of the same brand, material and design would have a difference with heavier draw weight. But when you mix bows of different material and design, you get surprised. Modern super recurves from carbon fiber are way more efective as shown in this video. So we can not just say that a heavier bow is shooting harder at a surtain distance. Because if it aint shooting harder just infront of you, it aint shooting harder at 30+ yards. There is no motor on the arrow and all the energy in the arrow are generated by the bow. So as science progresses we also need to change the questions we are asking each other. Insted of only ask: “how many pounds is that bow?” we should ask: What type of bow are you shooting, as well.
      Thanks for watching🙏

  • @wv.bowhunter6094
    @wv.bowhunter6094 Před 17 dny

    Thats my dream bow !! BEAUTIFUL.....

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog63 Před rokem +1

    Dr. Ed Ashby experimented with arrows up to 650 grains with a 40 pound recurve on large game animals. At that poundage and arrow weight, with a single bevel, 3 to 1 type broadhead, he was shooting his arrow thru the ribs of an Asiatic buffalo where 100 percent of his shots where entering the body cavity, even if it centered a large rib. Two of my Bear bows, shooting 36 pounds at 27 inches and a 550 grain arrow, shoot 121-124 feet per second. I bet his setup, at almost 100 more grains, was barely over 100 feet per second, but with heavy, high FOC arrows, his arrow momentum was sufficient for lethal penetration. There has to be a balance between arrow speed and trajectory, and arrow systems that are HEAVY ENOUGH to be lethal on the animal you hunt. It can be frustrating to practice with super heavy arrow setups that are highly lethal, but because the arrow moves so slowly, the animal may not be standing there when the arrow arrives. 160 fps can hit an animal out to 15 yards if you aim low in the kill zone before it can move significantly enough to take the arrow impact out of the kill zone. 20 yards may be a different story, if they drop at the sound of the string. If it is a windy day, or other back ground noise, they may not drop at all.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem +1

      In my case the arrow needs to travel 150 to 165 fps. Or else I’m shooting over the target. In my style of shooting, where I’m letting the mind set the sightpicture “instinctive”. Yes I can get use to 180 fps. But as soon there is a little stress on the situation the mind pick’s the sightpicture from the backpack coded with 150-160 fps. So with a fast bow I always increase the arrow weight so I’m ending up in that ballpart. The Blacktail I’m using currently the speed is 155 fps. With 580 grain arrow. It seems to work great for my accuracy.

    • @Kurtdog63
      @Kurtdog63 Před rokem

      That;s a decent speed for a heavy arrow setup. May be a lot of herd noise when hunting wildebeest. Wind noise may be your friend too. So reaction to the sound of the bow may not be an issue. I'm jealous. Hope you get some good footage. @@peterjuulsgaard

    • @Kurtdog63
      @Kurtdog63 Před rokem +1

      Something else I think that may be true, is that heavy arrows tend to be more forgiving on less than stellar release. @@peterjuulsgaard

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem +1

      @@Kurtdog63 hey man, this video was from last spring, so I’ve already been there. I didn’t get the wilderbeest but the Sable anthelope with the Morrison from this video. The documentary is here The Sofala Story - Recurve Bowhunt for Record book Sable Bull - Tales From the Willows
      czcams.com/video/fuFIguP3UXE/video.html

  • @michaelgow8050
    @michaelgow8050 Před rokem

    Peter,
    I've watched a few of your clips and enjoy your no nonsense style. This clip is very relevant to me as I've been working my way up the scale and now own two 60lb Bows, including a Kodiak Takedown ( B riser and No. 3 limbs...so 64" ) I find it HUGE to draw, and I'm a big bugger ( 6'3" with a 30" draw ) I had a lot of trouble adjusting when I first started shooting my 50lb Bear AuSable Long-bow, because of a wrist injury on the upright grip of that bow. I fixed that problem by making a retro-fit handle that makes it now a very pistol-grip type handle. Now I can do 200 shots @ 50lbs with that bow...just goes to show how you CAN adapt. I was nervous about getting "baggage" from adjusting to the burly nature of 60lbs, so I bought a cheap ( but very lovely ) Cartel Viper Long-bow which is 60lbs at my draw, but at 68" long. The idea being to get accustomed to the burly weight, but with a longer, smoother draw....but at this stage, it's still like an explosion in my hands. I think the real lesson in your clip though is this...the Bear Kodiak Takedown WAS state of the art in the late 60's/early 70's but they have retained all of their original engineering specs. This means us traditionalists can still get a Take-down just like they were...for nostalgia's sake...BUT they aren't as cutting edge as they once were. The bow you compared to ( the Morrison ) obviously uses Carbon and/or other newer fibers and super recurve technologies and certainly has very impressive performance. Only a truly stubborn bugger would insist on shooting an extra 15lbs in order to achieve the same arrow speed...few, if any people could truly say they were MORE accurate at a higher poundage, and when Hunting, let's face it, it's ALL about accuracy for the sake of ethics. Realistically, I should get some lighter limbs and get used to that Takedown in achievable steps, but they are VERY expensive here in Australia ( AU $600 or so ) Maybe I can hunt down some second-hand ones. I hope your hunting in S.A worked-out for you, cheers Mick in Australia.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem

      Your right. Its all about shot placement and arrow weight. I shot a Sable Bull in SA. Video is on my channel. I han a pass through with that bow setup (Morrison) Thanks for watching

  • @seanjorgenson8064
    @seanjorgenson8064 Před 2 lety +1

    Exactly relaxed forgiving quiet geometry hunting conducive. Fun to shoot.

  • @outdoorsman9384
    @outdoorsman9384 Před 2 lety +1

    According to doctor Ashby's extensive studies on lightweight poundage from traditional bows as long as you got to threshold of a minimum of 650 grains and you shoot a single beveled two-bladed Broadhead of structural integrity your arrow might be shooting slow but the momentum of that will go right through your wildebeest your cape buffalo so you go with your lightest pounded bow with that threshold grain Arrow and you have no worries and it quiets up the bow even more and also saves on limbs and that's slowing moving Arrow make sure Gap even more narrow if you shoot any type of point of aim for hunting it's simply awesome good luck out there , obviously the lighter the bow the more accurate we are, this is my new formula I stay with and it's remarkable how it works

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety

      Thats also why I have the 673 grain arrow in play. But I would probably go with the 623 as a middle way, because of the fast warthhogs and Impalas. Hope to cover it all with that. Thanks for watching

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy Před 2 lety +1

    I prefer the edited video's. Screw the insecure people who question your integrity.
    Can't wait to see the Africa hunt!

  • @slingshotwarrrior8105
    @slingshotwarrrior8105 Před 2 lety +2

    A beautiful and functional bow bro!

  • @stephenbrooksby4466
    @stephenbrooksby4466 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video pete" I'm so impressed with those Max Sixers 👏

  • @TXGRunner
    @TXGRunner Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very interesting (and surprising), but why? Obviously, about the same energy is imparted to same arrow from both bows, but what accounts for the efficiency of energy transfer difference?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 5 měsíci

      Primerely materials, and shape of the bows. The abillity for the material to recover faster, and the shape of the bows changes the draw force curves. Folks are often reffering to that the heavier poundage the bigger a rihno you can hunt. When I planned to go to Africa the outfitter told me that I needed 65 pounds. This video show different and I killed a big Sable anthelope just fine, with the 50 pounder

  • @SwissFiveNine
    @SwissFiveNine Před 2 lety +1

    Peter, if reason decides, you take the Morrison, if heart decides, you take the Kodjak take down (maybe with 50 lbs limbs, is still fast enough) ... says one who has a FB take down in his collection, too. Greetings from Switzerland.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      Haha yes. But to get more than 160 fps with the Kodiak at 50 pounds at my drawlenght, I need to shoot a 550 grain arrow, which are a too light for Large plains game (according to the outfitter) so I’ll go with the Morrison, which are an Awesome bow too

  • @oldon5881
    @oldon5881 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Peter, thank you for your video. The MAX6 are a no brainer as choice, but I would have loved to see your Mosstrooper against MAX6 even if it is 2 pounds less with the same arrow. - once piece is usually bullet proof in terms of missing or forgetting parts.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety

      Your welcome! I would love to see that too, but unfortunately the Mosstrooper delaminated on the upper limb a while ago, so I dont have that anymore.

  • @kevinroberts9580
    @kevinroberts9580 Před 2 lety +1

    Always look forward to seeing your videos, looking at getting Morrison long limbs for my New bow. With my 32" draw length and 50 lbs at 32"draw should be plenty fast enough

  • @darrenbowers3267
    @darrenbowers3267 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Peter I just love my vpa with uukha limbs. I'm glad you showed what I have been saying for ever you can not use pounds of pull as a gauge for hunting. Arrow weight and speed is what matters not how many pounds you pull. Good luck. I only subscribe to 3 channels and yours is one of the 3 that tells you what I think of your channel buddy keep up the good work. Darren

  • @tomburrows3608
    @tomburrows3608 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I would take the 50# for sure. Bow design plays big in FPS.

  • @mtladd4705
    @mtladd4705 Před 2 lety +1

    Great comparison! Thanks

  • @theuniqueoutdoorsman8952

    I would take the 50# Morrison Max 6 to Africa. Thank you for sharing your knowledge ☺️

  • @patdonoghue9230
    @patdonoghue9230 Před 2 lety +2

    The bear take down is a beautiful bow but I would go with the lighter bow, you can practice much more with it, the best of luck in Africa 👍

  • @Nick-wn1xw
    @Nick-wn1xw Před rokem +1

    Too much bow has always been my mistake. Just bought a BearbGrizzly at 40#. Much prefer using it. Might get another down the road in 45# but no heavier.

  • @christophergibbons4431
    @christophergibbons4431 Před rokem +1

    Hi Peter. thanks for another great video. what speed was your fred ear with 55# limbs shooring?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem

      Your welcome. With the 55# limbs I shot a 575 grain arrow around 160 - 162 at my drawlenght

  • @808fophun
    @808fophun Před 2 lety +1

    Aloha from Hawaii. You shoot both bows great(just about any bow you have), for me, lighter pounds would be better(for me) and shoot near the same speed. I’d go with the Morrison Max 6. Again for you, shooting both equally great, it’s your choice. Morrison Max 6. wish I could afford one. Mahalo(thanks) for the great videos, keep up the awesome work.👍🏽👊🏽🤙🏽

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      I go with the Morrison

    • @jkre
      @jkre Před 2 lety +1

      Doesn't make much sense to use heavier draw weight if the arrow speed is the same, there is no benefits in doing so, just have to do more work with the heavier with same results. Work smarter not harder.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety

      Exactly

  • @Shitbinarycode
    @Shitbinarycode Před 2 lety +1

    Never ever for me to draw this poundage!!! So nice your Fred Bear.

  • @fu5861
    @fu5861 Před 2 lety +1

    What string and length are you using and what is the brace height of your Morrisson/VPA combo?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      The string is a Flexo FF 16 strand for a 56” bow. The Brace height is set at 7,25”

  • @denniswells9340
    @denniswells9340 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi Peter. Thanks for performing the tests. Very interesting.
    Because the relatively close speeds, do both setups bare shaft tune much the same? And what are arrow groups like at your point on?
    Thanks

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      Your welcome! Logicly I can not keep up on the point on distance. The Bear is simply too hard to shoot at 65 pounds. So I’m more accurate with the Morrison. It is possible to shoot bareshaft with both bows. It is always a little challenge with the Morrison at the beginning, but when you got it, it works .

  • @-fazik-3713
    @-fazik-3713 Před 2 lety +1

    100% the bow that You are most comfortable with.

  • @davidschaub3423
    @davidschaub3423 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoyed this video Peter. Good luck in Africa!

  • @TradArcherDownunder
    @TradArcherDownunder Před 2 lety

    Great video as always. Like your real world presentation in all your posts so enjoyable to watch. You looked far more comfortable with the Morrison, bow hand looked steadier.
    Look forward to your African adventure.
    Cheers from DOWNUNDER 👍

  • @jerrycox2058
    @jerrycox2058 Před 2 lety +1

    hard to argue with the facts. But, for some, the super recurve may be more critical on form and a lot less forgiving. Having said that, I too prefer the lighter weight now, shooting 45# max these days. My body doesn't like the heavier weights anymore. Africa? The lighter bow if you can shoot it good enough at distance. Why hamper yourself with that much extra weight? I wish you good luck on the hunt, I hope that both of you have an awesome time.

  • @jimf1964
    @jimf1964 Před 2 lety +1

    Of course it isn’t just the weight that determines speed. Anyone who thinks it’s only weight doesn’t understand what’s going on. The only time it matters 100% is if you’re talking about the exact same style, materials, and production method. The "quickness" of the limbs matters a lot, and that depends on how it’s made.
    As for which one to take? You take BOTH! You gonna risk a once in a life time trip over breaking or losing a bow?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety

      Exactly! There are just some folks that think pounds is everything. Argh! I think I’ll rest my case, cause I think the host can support me with something. At least a compound, if worst case should happen. Thanks for watching

  • @vernhanna4399
    @vernhanna4399 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great video , the second bow is super quiet . I can see in the video you are shaking a little with the bear bow

  • @robertskowronski2923
    @robertskowronski2923 Před 2 lety +1

    Which ever bow you shoot best and like the most would be how I look at it. Perhaps the Bear with the other limbs would work well also. It depends on how well you shoot the two bows. Speed isn't everything. I bet the Bear with 50+ limbs shoots the same arrows nicely. Perhaps it will be slower but if you shoot the Bear better that is the bow you want to shoot.

  • @fishhunter348
    @fishhunter348 Před 2 lety +1

    What speeds do you get out of the Morrison shooting 10gpp?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      I made a video about that a while back. This was the Dryad riser which are more agressive so you can redraw around 5 fps with the VPA riser I’m using now. But this one have no handshock. The Dryad had handshock to it with these limbs. Remember the drawlenght is 27” and you should ad atleast 10 fps drawn at 28” czcams.com/video/UsWAY770F0s/video.html

  • @joebibble9647
    @joebibble9647 Před 2 lety

    You are getting the exact same performance out of both Bows, the Morrison is the bow to use at 50#! wow I just learned a lot with your testing. Good luck in Africa and be safe. Watch out for the Black Mombas!!!

  • @peterreece6547
    @peterreece6547 Před 2 lety +1

    I like your videos, though at 74 years old I can only dream of shooting a bow at the draw weights you are pulling. Years of abuse with heavyweights have taken their toll on my shoulders I now struggle to shoot passed 40# draw weight at my draw length of 29.5”.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah I can already feel it in my sholders. Thats also why I dont wanna shoot the 65 pound bow. Thanks for watching

  • @christianbowyer7812
    @christianbowyer7812 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Peter,
    thank you do much for sharing this interesting comparison. I‘d sure pick the lighter bow too.
    It just pops into my mind: your Danish temperature (~10 Celsius?) is keeping the bow limbs rather stiff. What will they do under South-African conditions? Guessing about 40 degrees Celsius. They limbs may become softer and loose draw-weight.
    Will the Morrison hyper-recurves stay straight? I don’t know. In every case don’t leave the strung bow in a hot car.
    However: Much success and fun in the African savanna. Cheers from Germany👍

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      Your welcome. It’s Winther times when we are there, so its rather cold in the morning and nights. But during the day its up to 27 celcius. So its actually like a Danish summer

  • @bugsbunny9334
    @bugsbunny9334 Před 10 měsíci

    Any recommendations for a much less expensive version of the Morrison max 6? I really want to switch to the more extreme curved limbs (super curve, deep hook?) but trying not to break the bank

  • @mattswildpointofview5057

    Awesome Peter and you got that right take consistency over poundage they preform that closely

  • @cpullic
    @cpullic Před rokem

    Great video. No bs, just proof 👍🏼🍺

  • @manuelgonzalezzambrano1989

    In your expert opinion, are those bow speeds good for big game?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem

      I think you know that, when you watched my African big game hunt

  • @tucker2074
    @tucker2074 Před rokem +1

    Thankyou

  • @edwardbiasi37
    @edwardbiasi37 Před 7 měsíci

    The light bow for sure

  • @manuelgonzalezzambrano1989

    Nice demo, thanks for putting it up. One question, please, do you hunt with those bow speeds, with those arrows?.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes I actually prefer the heavy arrows for the super recurve. That bow really like the heavy arrows. Most my animals are shot with no more than 160 fps

  • @andrewjames7616
    @andrewjames7616 Před 2 lety +1

    Thankyou that was very useful

  • @sethpierrepont9738
    @sethpierrepont9738 Před 6 měsíci

    great video, BUT I cannot hear what you are saying about second bow. What is name of 50 lb. limbs and how long is riser, 16” ?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 6 měsíci

      The second bow is the Morrison Max 6 limbs on the 13” VPA riser.

  • @matthiashellmann6211
    @matthiashellmann6211 Před 2 lety +1

    It is hard to believe, now I got information to think about my point of view.
    Maybe it is wrong when someone believes the higher the draw weight the higher the speed of arrows.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety

      That draw weight increase speed is only true, if it is the exact same bow/limbs and the drawlenght is exactly the same. There are way to much difference in design and material.

  • @stevencunningham4680
    @stevencunningham4680 Před 2 lety

    Great video Peter , for me I would choose the lighter bow. Both bows shoot close to the same speed but you'd be more consistent with the lighter draw weight bow. Good luck in Africa with the hunt.

  • @daleweller5193
    @daleweller5193 Před 10 měsíci

    When I got my first bow in 1960 I was told that a 45 lb bow can shoot through a moose on a broad side shot.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thats also correct. But 45 lb bow is many things. The 45 lb is how much force it takes to pull it back, but not always propotional with the power released when you release. Limb marerial, limb lenght and drawlenght are factors which are in play regarding power. As in this video the 50 lb carbon limbs are just as effective as the 65 lb Bear limbs.

  • @kaizen5023
    @kaizen5023 Před 2 lety +1

    Those Max 6 super recurve limbs are pretty insane, I'm jealous! What riser do you have those limbs on? Thanks great video.

  • @allenchason2473
    @allenchason2473 Před 2 lety

    This is a good comparison. I would take the lighter weight bow without a doubt. My 41 lb Black Swan hybrid longbow shoots pretty fast too. I'm very comfortable at that weight, almost effortless to draw and shoot. I'll probably never own a bow more than 40 to 45 lb again as I'm 61 years old.

  • @jkre
    @jkre Před 2 lety +1

    I like this kind of videos. Always nice to see performance differences of bows.
    Also makes me very happy to know that my wooden longbow made by me, can match these speeds with 51 pounds and 28" draw. It shoots 183 fps with 530 grain arrow and 156 fps with 755 grain arrow, but that's with a modern string (B55), with natural string the speed is about 10 fps slower, but it proves that wooden bow can be as fast as a modern super recurve and faster than recurve. Even tough everyone says that recurves are always faster. Well to be fair, that super recurve would be bit faster with 28" draw, but the fred bear recurve would still be slower even with full 28" draw, but I'm perfectly happy with that, knowing I can match (some, not all) modern bow performance with a wooden self bow.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +2

      I also shoot around 155 fps with 730 grain, at 27” with the Morrison. But your longbow is performing in the very high end. One dude I know was shooting the 623 grain arrow 208 fps with my Morrison, drawn at 31” so power stroke is paramount on any bow. Thanks for watching

    • @jkre
      @jkre Před 2 lety +1

      @@peterjuulsgaard yes, draw length makes huge difference. That's why i prefer old military shooting styles, cus they are drawn behind the ear, and in my case the modern draw is only 26", but behind my ear its 28" to 29", with a thumb draw I draw 29" to 30", and manchu style 33", but that's not too comfortable, so i prefer that 30" thumb draw over the manchu style draw cus its much more natural and relaxed.
      Yeah, I'm very happy how that longbow turned out. Couple of weeks ago I made also a maple self bow that shoots 162 fps with 530 grain arrow, 46 pounds and 28" draw. Pretty sure I can still improve the speed of it by narrowing the tips more, it has now quite wide tips, cus it's native American style bow, and the originals often had quite wide tips, so wanted to try how fast can it be with wide tips. The whole bow weights only 400 grams

  • @matthewyu3531
    @matthewyu3531 Před rokem

    Does SuperRecerve have a greater risk of Limb twist?
    Have you ever encountered this situation?

  • @tradmanmike3360
    @tradmanmike3360 Před 2 lety +1

    I HAVE A NEW 56" FRED BEAR T/D PHENOLIC/BUBINGA I JUST PUT ON EBAY. I REALLY HATE TO GIVE IT UP AS IT IS SWEET. BUT GETTING OLD AND TIME TO DOWN SCALE MY BELONGINGS. I HAVE WAY TOO MANY TRAD BOWS. (JUST ASK MY WIFE!) LOL..

  • @greywolf1606
    @greywolf1606 Před 2 lety

    Educational ! Quite surprising Peter.

  • @barrygriffiths3592
    @barrygriffiths3592 Před rokem

    Peter I enjoy your postings. FYI I have thought for some time that a 35 lb bow is more than adequate for deer hunting.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem

      It’s all about the energy transfered to the arrow. Not how many pounds. A 35 pound bow can be more than enough. Thanks for watching

  • @manuelgonzalezzambrano1989

    Yes, I answer you. Since they both develop the same speed with the same arrow weight, I would take the 50-pound one to Africa. Thank you very much for the video.

  • @chrisjohnson38
    @chrisjohnson38 Před 2 lety +1

    Did you try the 50# bear limbs with same arrow weight? That would be interesting also.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +2

      When I’m using the Bear bow for hunting, I’m using the 55@28 so around 52,6 pounds at my drawlenght. I’m shooting a 560 grain arrow at 160 fps. So that’s about the same as the heavy limbs with the 673 grain. Hope that answers the question

  • @vasileiosvasilakis8589
    @vasileiosvasilakis8589 Před rokem +1

    The you for the video I thing my opinion for more study shots I will prefer the light thing you

  • @timsherman8701
    @timsherman8701 Před 2 lety

    Peter. Love your videos

  • @SeanJorgenson-vy8nw
    @SeanJorgenson-vy8nw Před 16 dny +1

    Free gas is free gas I'm going free kinetics every time.

  • @anthonybarrett2342
    @anthonybarrett2342 Před 2 lety

    I find your videos really informative.Is it possible to do a similar video showing the speed/energy of the arrow just before the target?
    A guy that I worked with made a cross bow that could throw a half brick as far as the bolt.It gets down to the hysteresis of the material ie.the internal resistance to return to its original shape.So it is possible that the Fred Bear could do just as well with a heavier arrow and have a much better energy at impact.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety

      The Morrison with the 673 grain arrow is around 13,5 gpp and the Bear is around 10,5 gpp and they performs the same. If the Bear should be at 13,5 gpp the arrow should be almost 900 grain. Momentum wise the Bear would of course have higher momentum then. But the speed would also decrease to around 140 fps. We also need to remember that there are no motor on the arrow, so as soon the arrow have left the string, the arrow will Only loose speed. Heavy arrows loose less speed, than lighter arrows, though. But every arrow Only loose speed after the string, never gaining speed

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog63 Před 2 lety +1

    I have several Bear recurves. All vintage 1960's 1970s stuff. Never hunted extra large game but with reasonably heavy arrow, 550ish arrow weight, and tough broadhead design, guessing 50 pounds is plenty for about any size game. Currently experimenting with 670 grains with only 45 pound Bear Super Kodiak. Bow pulls smooth and arrows are old school 2117s with 250 grains 30 inches. Heavy arrows start rainbowing past 15 yards. Wonder what your range is going to be for those African animals? At 30 yards, I have to aim 3 feet high with that heavy of an arrow set up. Some of Fred's old videos show him taking shots at game, lobbing arrows at 40 and 50 yards.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      I have a point on at around 30 meters with the 673 grain arrow. But most plains game are taken from blinds in more Controlled inviroment. It’s winter times when I’m there, so dry season, so I’m guessing it’s from blind

    • @Kurtdog63
      @Kurtdog63 Před 2 lety +1

      @@peterjuulsgaard Hope you have success and get some good video footage to share. Are you taking VPA 3 blade?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      @@Kurtdog63 I probably going for the new two blade single bevel

    • @Kurtdog63
      @Kurtdog63 Před 2 lety +1

      @@peterjuulsgaard Would recommend something wider than 1 1/8th if you can find it. 1 3/16 or 1 1/4. Good penetration and arrow flight with skinnier broadheads, but blood trails can be sketchy.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      @@Kurtdog63 I think the penetration factor is a priority on big big game. Shotplacement is key though, why I also advocate for the lighter bow

  • @rafaljarosz7094
    @rafaljarosz7094 Před 2 lety

    Good video again- thank you Peter. I'm shooting 45lbs (my DL is actually 28). With feather nose technique it gives me around 42lbs I think. For many years I'm shooting Ragim Impala but wish to upgrade to something better. If I stay with this same power (that I feel comfortable) would be this enough for eventual efficient hunting small game plus roe deer or would you advise to go higher?

    • @rafaljarosz7094
      @rafaljarosz7094 Před 2 lety +1

      PS Asking as I never heard you mention something lower than 50lbs😀

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      It is perfect for roedeer. But we need 40 joules for roedeer here in Denmark. So like in this video, there is much difference in materials so forexamble a Morrison at 28” would be able to deliver 40 joules with 35 pounds. But a more regular recurve would need around 45 pounds. The reason I’m in the high end most of the time is also because I wanna be able to hunt larger game in other countries. Hope it makes sense

    • @rafaljarosz7094
      @rafaljarosz7094 Před 2 lety +1

      @@peterjuulsgaard Yes it does. Thank you very much for clear explanation. Happy hunt.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks

  • @willisblevins4190
    @willisblevins4190 Před rokem

    Very good thanks

  • @briantrewella6230
    @briantrewella6230 Před 2 lety +1

    Peter, any significant difference in the noise? I love the concept of the Morrison but I wonder about all of that string to limb contact. Great video, as always.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety

      As you can see I use several dampening systems, like limbsavers, catwhiskers and wool around string in string grooves. And it works great, and the it are still performing Well, as proved in this video.

  • @vicheksink5100
    @vicheksink5100 Před 2 lety

    Great video Peter. Like your science way. You're never give up. Looking forward to see your African adventure. Have great one.

  • @seanjorgenson8064
    @seanjorgenson8064 Před 2 lety +1

    Don't end up with a injury. Pulling needless weight. Half my friends are injured.

  • @fishingisexicting899
    @fishingisexicting899 Před 2 lety

    Which arrows you use for hunting?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 2 lety +1

      If I’m using these bows, I’m using these arrows. But if I’m using other bows I’m using those who fit the bows tuning and weight wise

  • @seanjorgenson8064
    @seanjorgenson8064 Před 2 lety

    Morrison was going to make Max 6 limbs for the bear takedown.

  • @barrygriffiths3592
    @barrygriffiths3592 Před rokem

    Use the Bear. It is lightest AND it is the best.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před rokem

      Yes the Bear is lightest at 67 pounds vs. The Morrison at 50 pounds??? I used the Morrison and I shot a big sable with a pass thru. And I still have my shoulders. Thanks for watching

  • @samivey8416
    @samivey8416 Před 2 lety +1

    I'd carry both. You never know what you will see in Africa

  • @barrystricklin2230
    @barrystricklin2230 Před rokem

    I have been killing deer for years with a 40 lb longbow wood arrows that weigh 650 grains not fast but it shoots through them

  • @FISHUNTREECOUNTRY
    @FISHUNTREECOUNTRY Před 5 měsíci

    50 lbs is more than enough for a moose at 20 yds

  • @frankroberts3696
    @frankroberts3696 Před 2 lety +1

    the lighter one

  • @dkveracity65able
    @dkveracity65able Před 20 dny

    Work and train smarter, not harder. Also embrace better tech.

  • @md37346
    @md37346 Před 2 lety

    definitely lighter bow,,, i am 69 years old lol thats what i would take man,,

  • @thorstenfleck-baustian8775

    Super curves are the healthiest curves for grown men😂🤣😂
    Enjoy your trip, looking forward to get the report 👍

  • @matthewyu3531
    @matthewyu3531 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Peter, I love this Morrison Max 6 limbs so much. Would you kindly tell me what is the exact length & width of your Morrison Max 6 limbs?
    Your help will be deeply appreciated.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 3 měsíci +1

      These are Medium limbs makes a 60” bow on 17” riser. I sold the limbs, so I can’t measure them

    • @matthewyu3531
      @matthewyu3531 Před 3 měsíci

      @@peterjuulsgaard
      Thank you for your prompt response.
      Would you tell me why you sold them? Do you get the better limbs? What are the limbs you currently using?
      Thank you very much.

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @matthewyu3531 well like all other traditional archers am I trying something new once in a while. I got a good price offer for the limbs and I sold them. Currently I shoot with Bosen LCS longbow limbs. I also use recurve bows, but currently I use longbows. Wether one like the Morrison limbs or not is more wether you like the spungie back end. The performance is outstanding as shown in this video and I used them in Africa with success. But speed aint everything.

    • @matthewyu3531
      @matthewyu3531 Před 3 měsíci

      @@peterjuulsgaard
      Thank you very much 👍

  • @Leeyou544
    @Leeyou544 Před 4 měsíci

    Is it possible to hunt a bear with 50 pounds?

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 4 měsíci

      You can pretty much hunt everything with 50 pounds. Maybe hippo, elephant, cape buffalo and such is the exeption. I know alot of folks from USA hunting bears with less than 50 pounds on their fingers

    • @Leeyou544
      @Leeyou544 Před 4 měsíci

      @@peterjuulsgaard Thank you very much My country is prohibited from hunting with a bow, so there is always a debate about whether it is possible or impossible for £50 to do so. Your information has helped a lot

    • @peterjuulsgaard
      @peterjuulsgaard  Před 4 měsíci

      Your welcome