Breaking the tracks | massive tools involved!
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2020
- Watch us break these tracks and put them back together
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Segmented sprockets are the way to go.
That was really cool; we only get to see this kind of stuff in a few places. I really do appreciate it !!
We had an inch drive air gun at the cat graveyard, driven by a ford diesel compressor. The thing was an animal :o) great for track pads.
I always liked to coat link pins with anti sieze on assembly.
They go in better and definately come out better.
Greetings from 🇬🇧takes me back...first job after college,changing chains on 360s off coal sites,dig clay out of frames,pads off new chains rollers n weld on sprocket teeth rings,didn't need no help sleeping of a night 💤out😂
Very impressive hydraulic power ram/press!!
Awesome video showing men working hard for their money.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Wow. That was pretty cool. Thanks for sharing that with us. I hope the trucker wasnt too pissed off at you for holding him up. Stay well and stay safe 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
That is one serious hydraulic press Tim, that first pop always makes a person jump:):)
Good stuff Tim. Thanks for showing us the press and how it works...
We used to take those pins out with a torch and a two man team on 16 lb sledge hammer ,my my how times have changed !
Good to see these guys are doing the “safety squint”
Awesome video Tim. 👍👍👍. Cool stuff right there. Them guys done a good job. I could picture Jay doing that job. Thanks
Those two guys are hustlers! Good to see some young guys out kicking butt!
That press was impressive really cool to see something like that. Great job on the video
That is back breaking work. Those two fellas make it look easy!
I had a set of tracks on my feller buncher they were called V track and they had a master link that was nice when you need to split the track. The pin is not a press-fit and it's held in by a bolt. 👍 video. 🇺🇸
What a press! Awesome video Tim this is the stuff right here...👌
appreciate you standing by to film the pin pushing, super interesting. Thanks
Great video. Massive tools for massive machine. Stay safe and hydrated have a good weekend.
that's a real good one. nice to see the work. stay save. 💪
Great chain breaker - exactly the same as for a bike chain, just "2 times bigger" - or a few more.
If I saw it at a yard sale, I'd give $50 for it, no demo needed. Show me it works, and I'll give you a hundred.
Tim, I haven't heard you report on how Jay is doing. What is the latest on how he is doing?
Made my day seem much better. Heavy duty work right there. Great video
If the track R worn over 50%, U can usually bleed the adjuster grease out, push the Idler back with the saw head, then block up that side, hook a chain to a track pad, and pull the rail off the idler, without breaking the track chain. Easy
Worse if adjuster stuck extended.
How much force on press? We are using a 100ton press, for CAT 385 is often not enough, guy with torch needed.
Wish I'd had this when I was doing track work. 20 lb sledgehammer and a torch. Things sure have come a long way.
That pin was like half the size of the new one. som good wear on the sproket and the pin! nice video
Thank goodness for "gator links!" That looked like work.
Lol Dan ya it is , but it's the good kind of work..lol if you don't know what your doing it"ll make you work your ass off...lolol
Tim I do agree with what your brother was saying that Jay said about shimming the track pads a inch to a inch and a quarter and what about adding a few grease zerks into the shims where you drill into the steel in 2 spots on the side and top for additional track lubrication
Dry track system. No lubrication
At least you are in the shade not broken down in the sun.
Those lads work well and fast. well done from the UK
Great video as always Tim.
Be nice if a power washer was/ is available to clean it up some before the work was started, my opinion, good video, stay with it guys.👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Just like when u bring a bucket to a welder all packed with dirt and asphalt. Takes him 2hrs to clean, add 4hrs labor to bill 🤣
Great video Tim, I know Derrick loves his track cutter but the 726 is sexy too
A lot easier with that press,back in the 60s the change the sprockets on my Dads crawler by hand. Great video
Boy that machine sure earns it's keep. Good video thanx.
Boy those pins are tight and sure is cool to have that pin remover or pusher.
I can say a 150 ton portable electric pump pin press with adapter years ago was 15,500 and that was a good deal. Had to say I love the sound of the track clattering.
The pressure it takes to wear a solid pin. Mind boggling. Bout crapped my shorts when it popped, lol.
Be safe.
That barely 'popped'. They are probably hardened as wellAfter you max out a 100.ton press and have frame bending, it can 'pop' and fly around 30ft. I wouldn't get in front of any track pin when there is any pressure on it.
I see the 28lb sledgehammer came out.
They ain't no fun at all (but do get you real fit without wasting money on gym membership)
Surprisingly, I actually miss working on stuff like that, even though, quite often it can be heavy dangerous work. At least they didn't have to dig it out of a snowbank first LOL
Thanks CT that was a gooood video .
I really liked the video Tim. I think you all got your money's worth out of them sprockets.
Dang, Back seat drivers are annoying as heck, right?
19k + for that press last time with adaptors and shipping when i priced it 5years ago
I used a 56lb sledge hammer and Molybdenum Disulphide anti-sieze to put 24 coupling bolts from main Engine( Sulzer RD 90) tailshaft.( mid 60s) on merchant ship. That Jack would have saved a Lot of heartache 🤗🤗
Most interesting especially to someone that had no idea.
I agree. That was cool
There is another way to do this it will sound crazy but it works well. I use to have a bunch of old D8s n 7 an ol boy who's now 88 use to come fix my stuff. He would take 1 pad off cut the rails through the center flange when done v it out pull it together bolt pad on tak weld it take pad off weld it up good bolt pad back on. When I first saw this I thought he was crazy, I watched him do it 5 times and I never once had a failure. I still own bunch of machines if one didn't have a gator to break tracks I wouldn't hesitate for a minute to cut the flange.
When you replace the track chains, I suggest going to the "Master Link" system. I have it on my 977L and it works great.
What ton press is that my cat dozer is gonna need pins turned before it gets any worse. Thinking about taking my tracks off and finding a good place to do it for me.
@@waynepeake32 100 ton is what track presses usually work up to a D8 & D9, I don't know about some of the very large equipment requires. what is your machine?
I worked at a power station in 1972 and was paid a nice amount of money to turn out two new pins to a specification for repairing a track like that. I've never seen how the job was done.i don't think they'd have a jacking tool like that beast (1972 )
Tim looks like that pit crew kept you all on the lead lap!!
I logged in Northern California..$300 per thousand board feet..Douglas Fir..$2000 a load..at about 60,000 lbs load
oh that was a small pop compared to some. wait till you got 10,000 psi on it and still have to hit the tracks with hammer. that one makes every one jump.
The extra wear on the teeth is due to not having any carrier rollers, that also contributes to the off center wear causing an alignment issue over time..
What are the carrier rollers
@@jmwarden1 rollers mounted above the roller frame ,which support 'carry' the track and take the force of shift twist of the track when steering the machine..they are a crucial part of track wear and alignment,plus the track doesn't have to be so strung so tight to keep it up off the roller frame..
@@terryboomershine6812 Thanks for the response I thought that might be what they were.
We had a small version of that tool called the big Ed. It is a hydraulic clamp we use to crimp power lines.
I put one of the die's in backwards one day and those harden steel die's shattered and broke out my front tooth and would have blinded me if I wasn't wearing my safety glasses.
i use a Tire fill tank with modified fittings for impact needs.. a globe valve probably 1/2" with to reduce restriction to which ever hose quick connect plug you use to fill the tank fast... the other side of the globe valve is a Tee .. one branch into the tank.. the other branch to the largest diameter air hose you can get to connect either with high flow connectors to your big impacts or Direct thread in to the impact.. this becomes a surge tank for the air impact and the break away torque is increased significantly for a few seconds.. 3/8 air hose and 1/4" quick connects is TOO Restrictive for high break away torque needs.. notice when you listen to the audio.. the impact starts hammering fast. then reduces the sounds of hammering as it slows down do to pressure drop thru the long air lines and fittings. tire inflation tanks can be modified easily.. so an extra tank is not needed.. carrying a 1/2" ID air hose to connect direct to the compressor tank without any regulators is also a way to do it.. just thought you should know.. wayne.. the guy with the transmission electronic issues info..
They don't care, they get paid by the hr
Used to pop the track pins on mining machines many years ago-- 1 third of a stick of powder & a det.
We only had hand tools in the Army to change tracks etc.
Busted track on my Battalion Maintenance 's M578 and one of the Army's last fire-breathing gas-burning M88's.
Main berco dealer in the country is down the road from me. If there was top rollers it wouldnt wear the Chain link as bad
Very cool video today Tim have a great day & weekend
Hell of a pin driver!
That is a great video Tim
We call that the widow maker. When she starts buckin up in the rear you best be gettin back!
26:00 Might be good to have a mirror handy, rather than sticking your face towards the pin with thousands of pounds of pressure acting against it.
Totally agree....that young man is lookin to have a short career.....
one safety tip,if the track "lets go" and flies off the machine, DON'T stand in it's way!!- thats why the 'techs' are standing off the axis of the tracks, like sawing on a table saw, stand TO THE SIDE OF WHERE THINGS WILL FLY.
Great video.
This was a good video.👍🏻I really liked it. Also, it was 29 minutes long!👍🏻
Good power right there
theres a quicker way to get them thar pins out !!! get little plug of gelignite , onthe end , let her go , BANG never fails !! good vidjoes !!!
Hi Derrick, my apologies if I misspelled your name. Been awhile. Good to see ya.
Good job 👍
Very interesting.
Very cool Tim
That's cool we use one like it ours is a Fp-100 ton pin press it can push anything out , I think Larry gave between 15 &20 grand for it to but it's worth it not to beat your brains out.
Those track presses are very handy ,but can be dangerous if not careful
Damn ,it thanks a lot of money and big stuff to fix that ....Big Rig... Thanks
Most likely they wore out fast from operator error, probably uses machine in reverse climbing up over stuff and up hills. Finals always to the rear when working or climbing 🤷♂️
Liked the video great work
Thought we were going to see an amputation at 6:20. Whew boy.
In all reality 700 for a whole sprocket isn't THAT bad. Comparatively, i paid $1000 for a little sensor that could fit into the palm of my hand. The old one was failing and it would stop the machine in its tracks every time. I'm also so cheap, before they came out with the press id have had the pads off, and as many of the sprocket bolts off as i could lol.
By the looks of that pin it's about ready for some pins and bushings.
Yeah, sprockets are cheap, however if you do not change the rails you be doing the same very soon.... the old linck pin and bushings has too much play, that is what did the damage on the old sprocket. I recommend you to change the rails also. at least turn the pins and bushings on the rail you have.
How much pressure was needed to push the pins in and out, ? Thank you👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Like a massive ball joint press. With a few thousand more pounds of pressure available.
Me and a friend of mine cutt a white oak near the heart center in Kingsport Tennessee it was real close the same size as that tree and it was about 6 inches from her house it was picking up the house on one side when I finally cutt the last 30 feet down it shook the whole house and I'm 5'10" and I could barely see over it lying on the ground we should have measured it but we didn't but the stump is still there and it's a 9 foot burl knot.
Live action at its best!!!!!!
Just changed the rails on our sk200. It really helps when you got the right tools man. I seen people on CZcams try to bust off 350 bolts on those tracks with a little old 1/2 impact. Waste of time. Get you a 1” save you over half the time.
Get you some those Milwaukee 1 inch cordless leave air behind.
when ya have the right men on the job its a case of ....job & finish
I bet Derick was happy to get his machine back
I had Feller Buncher tracks on my D6C Cat..Humboldt County California..a little sloppy
Nice!!!!
Also Tim I would advise not standing so close ,to get the shot or not,I have had the Cat links blow all to heck when under pressload.even under perfect press aligment..The only guy remotely close should be the guy runnin the trigger..Be Safe...
Thanks for the video, very informative. We have to replace rails on a midsize excavator, what's a good brand name and suppler?
Check out truck or track in Indiana
Big tools for big jobs.
Spray that puppy down with lube while pushing the pin back out and in. Stay as far away as possible in case metal goes flying--old wise cat mechanic
Held a drift pin with a jig while a 68yr old man drove pin out with a 20 pounder. Track pin for a Komatsu 360
I hope everyone survived the sphincter check when that first pin popped loose. I think I barely passed with only two drops!!!🤣🤣😳😳
With sprockets worn that much how did your bushings look? Normally that much wear you pins and bushings need turning or replaced.
Was thinking that. Shame to put new cogs on if the track is stretched.
They’re only $700 a piece. Most people on welfare have a $1000 phone.
Cut the nut side of the bolt. No damage to the pad that way.. should be getting atleast 4 to 5k hrs out of yer rails and sprockets.. Something ain't right
That impact socket lets go and that guy is gonna be like Stevie Wonder.
I was thinking .....is that pin going to pop,yup yup yup
Tim is there a cylinder full of grease to adjust the track tension and is a press fit the only thing that keeps the pins in place?
Hi. Yes all dozer/excavator type tracks are pushed out with a grease fitting cylinder. These will leak back, if the cylinder gets coroded/worn, over time/hours on the machine. On most the excavator tracks the pins are press fit, there is one "master pin" that is slightly smaller so it can be pusher out with a portable press, like these boys R using.