Beer and Brexit with Stefaan De Rynck, adviser to Michel Barnier

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
  • In the latest Beer and Brexit series, Professor Anand Menon speaks to Stefaan De Rynck, adviser to Michel Barnier on the Brexit negotiations. He tells us why the Withdrawal Agreement cannot be amended, the importance of the backstop and what the future holds for the European Union.
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Komentáře • 94

  • @hurri7720
    @hurri7720 Před 5 lety +36

    I don't think the EU is responsible for British silliness.

  • @samhartford5889
    @samhartford5889 Před 5 lety +25

    "Brexit itself - don't try it at home!" The best quote about Brexit so far.

  • @remus3960
    @remus3960 Před 5 lety +24

    Stefaan de Rynck is a smart Belgian , i’m proud of him .

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 Před 5 lety +3

      And diplomatic..., you can be proud.

  • @adrianceasar5620
    @adrianceasar5620 Před 5 lety +5

    Clear speak and very professional ... Now let here May , Borris, Farage and see the difference

  • @johnconlon2207
    @johnconlon2207 Před 5 lety +7

    Brilliant. Clear, thoughtful and intelligent.

    • @apartmentswales
      @apartmentswales Před 5 lety

      Played for the media, this guy is just a muppet for the EU, all he is doing is promoting the EU in the smugness to have humiliated the UK and in fairness to him, I would have done exactly the same, based on May's so called Special Deal.

    •  Před 5 lety

      @@apartmentswales Your ignorant fear is typical. You fucking dimwit.

  • @gcazemier01
    @gcazemier01 Před 5 lety +4

    Excellent interview and respect for Stefaan, Michel has a top advisor! Very respectfull, but if listen to carefully clear on the major foundations.

  • @biocapsule7311
    @biocapsule7311 Před 5 lety +4

    Wonderful presentation and his demeanor sums up what's wrong with UK politics. He talks about complexities of international, geographical relationships. Brexit leadership talks in terms of war rhetoric.

    • @samhartford8677
      @samhartford8677 Před 23 dny

      Nice that you cannot even distinguish between Germany and the EU or NATO and the EU, but then that's not surprising at all.

    • @biocapsule7311
      @biocapsule7311 Před 23 dny

      @@samhartford8677 What are you even talking about? You are clearly very confused... are you one of those people who think Brexit is "sabotage" instead of the UK getting precisely what it demanded, not understanding what any of it means?

    • @samhartford8677
      @samhartford8677 Před 23 dny

      @@biocapsule7311 Sorry, this was a mistake. I accidentally replied to the wrong message - was supposed to answer the person whining about Germany's war debt.
      I wholly agree with you!

    • @biocapsule7311
      @biocapsule7311 Před 23 dny

      @@samhartford8677 Ah... my bad, should have figured it was something like that.

  • @samhartford8388
    @samhartford8388 Před 2 lety +2

    Watching this in 2022, when the UK is stll huffing and puffing about the backstop/frontstop there is only one thing to say: Can't cure stupid. Time for the UK to understand that the EU red lines here are non-negotiable.

  • @hypnotechno
    @hypnotechno Před 5 lety +2

    sensible man. It this man represents a European, then more brits should be like him

  • @elwynjones763
    @elwynjones763 Před 5 lety +6

    A wonderful, fair-minded and clear-thinking man. Brexiteers please note well.

    • @wolfetone2012
      @wolfetone2012 Před 5 lety

      Look around the comment section. Brextards and brexiteers all seem to be convinced de Rynck is a liar, EU lackey, or an idiot.
      And you may take three guesses why that is

  • @gchelem
    @gchelem Před 5 lety +7

    Excellent interview.

  • @TorianTammas
    @TorianTammas Před 5 lety +5

    When will people understand that when after 2 years one signs a withdrawal agreement then negotiations are over?

    • @johnwade1095
      @johnwade1095 Před 5 lety +1

      Some time after their legitimate representatives sign it one would expect.

    • @thedude9014
      @thedude9014 Před 5 lety

      Not really

    • @davemurphy2020
      @davemurphy2020 Před 5 lety +1

      negotiations are never over

    • @TorianTammas
      @TorianTammas Před 5 lety +1

      @@davemurphy2020 Yes they are after you agreed on and signed the withdrawal agreement. If the UK send a negotiator without mandate and majority in parliament then this is pitiful.

    • @johnwade1095
      @johnwade1095 Před 5 lety

      Meh. Deal with it.

  • @eileendelapp6695
    @eileendelapp6695 Před 4 lety

    What a sensible discussion of Brexit!

  • @foppo100
    @foppo100 Před 5 lety +2

    You can see there isn't the emotion we have in the U.K.The Belgian talks factual with intelligence,That is lacking in the U.K

  • @eddu4361
    @eddu4361 Před 5 lety +1

    Every Brexiteer should see this.

  • @frankhofmann5910
    @frankhofmann5910 Před 5 lety +3

    No seat at any table!

  • @hurri7720
    @hurri7720 Před 5 lety +12

    Look said Britain, I am jumping off a cliff, let that be a warning for you EU.

    • @frze5645
      @frze5645 Před 5 lety +1

      Hurri - typical Remoaner negative view. Britain wants a clean break independence - there is no cliff - the EU wants to continue trading with the UK and visa versa - already numerous solutions are in place - trucks will continue to move, planes will fly and the EU will be able to access London’s financial markets. The ‘cliff’ is a remoaner mindset. But don’t worry - positive leaver mindset will sort it.

    • @hurri7720
      @hurri7720 Před 5 lety +4

      @@frze5645 , I very much doubt you know what the architects behind brexit want, you are just sheep.

    • @geoffallibone2270
      @geoffallibone2270 Před 5 lety

      @@frze5645 Wisen up

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops Před 4 lety +1

      @@frze5645 11 months later. EU rejects Boris' proposals on London's financial SERVICES full access to the EU market UNLESS they accept ECJ jurisdiction. This is obvious and unsurprising. Why would the EU allow the UK to manage our finances if they are not BOUND by EU Law in doing so?
      As for the Banks offering these financial services, do you think banks are nationalistic? Or do you think they care about profit and market access? Are you under the impression that only Brits know how accounting works? You overestimate the importance of your little island nation.

  • @caxias1980
    @caxias1980 Před 5 lety +6

    Brexist it' an english problem and NOT european...They must found the solution...

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops Před 4 lety

      @ He can't even spell "our", no point expecting anything from him. From the average intelligence of Brexiteers I've conversed with over the years, it is obvious that Brexit is the result of a lack of proper education and decades of misinformation.

  • @lewisbrand
    @lewisbrand Před 5 lety

    So how does the resolution happen for Brexit with no possibility of renegotiation ? I understand Mr De Rynck's position, however it doesn't resolve the outstanding issues. Let's deal with facts folks, if there is a no deal, then how are the EU going to enforce anything at all to do with either British or Irish sovereign territory ? Answer, they cannot. So who is talking pie in the sky , Britain, or the EU ?

    •  Před 5 lety +1

      The english.

    • @rontauranac
      @rontauranac Před 5 lety +2

      Lewis Brand : in case of a no deal, or if your PM's deal is approved by the HoC, the E.U. will support the Republic of Ireland.

  • @gabbegubbe8556
    @gabbegubbe8556 Před 5 lety +2

    Divorce deal is Not Trade Agreement ! 😈 after implementation period WTO could be the only viable option for years to come ! 😜

    • @wolfetone2012
      @wolfetone2012 Před 5 lety

      Withdrawal agreement. Two years and it still has to sink in. No deal is the only deal as there is no deal to be made while UK is still in

  • @apartmentswales
    @apartmentswales Před 5 lety +1

    Interesting, but it needed a boost to the mix, maybe Nigel or Mr Mogg, you have simply allowed this EU Side kick of Barnier a platform to make the EU seem like the good guy.
    Mr Spence Eng

    • @dutchuncle3310
      @dutchuncle3310 Před 5 lety +11

      The people you suggest, are known spinners and skilled in distorting the truth. This video is not about that it is about explaining the standpoint of the EU nothing to do with politics as such. If you come away with the impression that the EU is the good guy you are probably right. Looking back to the start in 2016 the EU has been very consistent about it’s values and behaved in predictable way. Britain on the other hand has been anything but predictable just looking for ways to divide and conquer and failing miserably.

    • @apartmentswales
      @apartmentswales Před 5 lety

      @@dutchuncle3310 I am always amused by what each of us sees, whether it is two people looking at a painting or two people describing something each of them have seen or in this case the EU defending it's position on Brexit.
      As to the UK and your statement of its intention to divide and conquer, well sorry but all I see from my side of the Fence is Mrs May floundering out of her depth trying to negotiate against Trained EU Professionals, who have made her seem stupid and inept in the eyes of her Nation, to achieve what!?! a Deal, a Deal made in Hell one that locks us in to become Europe's poor Cousin with all the obligations and non of the benifits.
      As to Divide, she could not split a Cake into portions, all she managed to do was get her knickers taken off and have them take it in turns to slap her ass! and send her red faced back to the UK.
      But as the The Merovingian once said, Mark my Words and Mark them well, this will all end in Tears at Bedtime for all concerned. Mr Spence Eng ApartmentsWales.com

    • @wolfetone2012
      @wolfetone2012 Před 5 lety +1

      @@apartmentswales So as far as you're concerned when discussing going to the moon. There must be moonlanding conspiracy 'theorist' to offer an opposition perspective when talking to NASA specialists.
      If that's what you want, go back to watching the BBC

    • @apartmentswales
      @apartmentswales Před 5 lety

      @@wolfetone2012 Not the best analogy, but I do think one should walk around with some sort of skepticism rather than just be part of the herd. Your take on the BBC, I am not quite sure of the context that was meant.

  • @deanbeck6223
    @deanbeck6223 Před 5 lety

    We don't want to be part of the federal state of Europe we want our freedoms and democracy back

    •  Před 5 lety

      You're a penniless serf dimwit.

  • @MrMwhiting
    @MrMwhiting Před 5 lety

    Leave means leave. Sign the UK open petition for a no deal Brexit 355,119 MBGA

  • @gabbegubbe8556
    @gabbegubbe8556 Před 5 lety

    so what EU can do with UK out otherwise not ? it is a secret not to say ? 😨😨

    • @wolfetone2012
      @wolfetone2012 Před 5 lety +1

      Have adult conversations, discuss the future of defending the EU without having a treacherous, cowardice excuse for an 'ally' as the UK in the room

    • @geoffallibone2270
      @geoffallibone2270 Před 5 lety

      Nothing you have written makes any sense. GobbleDeeGook

    • @geoffallibone2270
      @geoffallibone2270 Před 5 lety

      @@wolfetone2012 Are you aware there is an organisation known as NATO? That organisation is responsible for the EU's military security. The UK is a member of NATO.

    • @wolfetone2012
      @wolfetone2012 Před 5 lety

      @@geoffallibone2270 Don't make me laugh. Without the USA to provide the armed forces, NATO isn't much use to anyone.
      Much better to go self-reliant when it comes to armed forces. Something in line with EU foreign legion, except here EU citizens have the option to serve either their national or EU military. Fifty years from now the EU may not need military forces on a national level at all. Doesn't mean it would be banned, just not deemed required by the citizenry.
      What we do know for sure is that the UK is unreliable as an ally. We have centuries of history to show england is the worst of allies. And more recent history has proven the UK to be more of a danger to our own forces than our supposed enemies ever were

    • @wolfetone2012
      @wolfetone2012 Před 5 lety

      @@geoffallibone2270 that's because you fail to comprehend a converstaion above the level of a toddler

  • @michalialambeis4466
    @michalialambeis4466 Před 5 lety +1

    So, thanks for this talk, more british have to listen to the side of the 27 remaining menmbers, and if they don't see the difference between the intelectual power and deepnes of the europen actors and their moggs clowns, johnson liers, etc, well...Also a realy good interview: czcams.com/video/kNe8qK_-wUI/video.html

  • @gabbegubbe8556
    @gabbegubbe8556 Před 5 lety

    NO Custom...NO Norway ....NO bullshit....just WTO ! 😈😈

  • @gabbegubbe8556
    @gabbegubbe8556 Před 5 lety

    please do Not change the BackStop agreement ! give WTO a chance ! 😈😈

  • @johnbrown9439
    @johnbrown9439 Před 5 lety

    "The EU said. No, no, no. The money question is about settling the accounts from the past."
    After WWII Germany started to pay reparations. But they were starving, so we let them off.
    American presidents have repeatedly warned that EU countries are not putting into NATO the amount of troops and material that they had committed to. The UK did keep their promises.
    So very definitely it is a question of "settling the accounts from the past", and the EU has made no attempt at all to do this.
    The EU has debts to the UK.

    • @samhartford8677
      @samhartford8677 Před 23 dny

      Nice that you cannot even distinguish between Germany and the EU or NATO and the EU, but then that's not surprising at all.

  • @davemurphy2020
    @davemurphy2020 Před 5 lety

    I got as far as 'you cannot be imprisoned in a federal system' Had to go for a walk. Only an academic could produce an article 50 that means so much yet say's so little, after all 'imprisoned' is a purely relative term. The EU is so totally corrupted, and is indeed full of shit.

    •  Před 5 lety +1

      No dimwit that would be you.

    • @geoffallibone2270
      @geoffallibone2270 Před 5 lety +2

      You are a prisoner of your own invention. Read lots and expand your points of reference.

    • @davemurphy2020
      @davemurphy2020 Před 5 lety +1

      @@geoffallibone2270 Well read thanks. I would have voted to join the EEC in 72 if I had been old enough. No resentment nor regrets there. But having watched in dismay at the social and political disaster the EU have wrought in the last 25 years I realise that we as Europeans have been had over. Brussels has the same imperfections as any other centralized government, difference being we cannot change Laws or policies democratically, and each country is at the mercy of minority groups within the EU, for the EU has total power without a mandate. We also have to suffer the tax burden of what amounts to a dubious political experiment.
      A visit to the EU museum in Brussels is a bit of an eye opener to one who has been educated in the 'free' world. 'Corruption' is putting it mildly. Worse still is the contempt that is held for the poorest European Nations in the name of freedom. The Freedoms the EU offer are just beads for the Natives, Whilst essential and hard won freedoms are relentlessly eroded.