The Dark Truth Behind the Darksaber & How it Nearly Destroyed the Mandalorians
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:41 The Blade and the Mask
3:13 The Power of a Story
6:19 What is the Way?
10:20 Outro - Kråtké a kreslené filmy
That lightsaber would of made a fine addition to Grievousâs collection.
His finest. Itâs from ancient Jedi history. Unless Grievous respects the Mandalorians as warriors.
That is if he was still alive.
Have lol
*would've
Wanted to like it but it was at 66 I can't ruin it
It's not like Mandalorians were killing each other just because of the saber, they were fighting each other for a long time for a variety of petty reasons and ideas.
Well sabine wren even said mandalorians don't need a reason to pick a fight.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Exactly, the saber was just the one reason we could most easily ascribe to a physical object.
@@collecter343 in other words picking a fight is easy.
The darksaber is a significantly worse symbol for Mandalore than the mask for one simple reason: Mandalorians are known for their helmets, the Jedi for their lightsabers. If anything should ever symbolize the unity and strength of Mandalore, it's the beskar armor that defends and protects them, not the stolen weapons of their enemies. That being said, I'm hoping they can unite as one not under the banner of a symbol, but under their shared culture and resilience. And maybe a kickass mythosaur to ride :D
Well, not just that, there are a couple of hints in both _Rebels_ and _The Mandalorian_ that even in Canon, the Darksaber was traditionally the symbol of the head of House Vizsla, not the Mandalore. Theory - the Deathwatch eventually conflated the two titles.
Notable evidence I can think of:
-In _Rebels,_ Fenn Rau, the Protector of Concord Dawn, saying that with the Darksaber, Sabine Wren could unite all of the Clans within House Vizsla.
-In _The Mandalorian,_ (technically _Book of Boba Fett,_ but that episode was really _Mandalorian_ Season 2.5) the member of Clan Vizsla within the Children of the Watch challenges Din Djarin for the Darksaber, claiming that it was his right because his ancestor forged it. No other members of the Children of the Watch challenge Din because [I wanna say Paz?] was the only Vizsla within the group.
It's like Rey using the Youngling Slayer 9000 to represent all of the Jedi.
I grew up in awe of that saber. Iâm gonna miss seeing it ignited and in action.
Hopefully mandalore is still united by the time of the sequels
"Strange women lying in ponds dispensing swords is not a basis for a system of government!"
Moff Gideon: *catches Darksaber*
Bo-Katan: "WHAT?!"
Moff Gideon: "Nice knife!" *breaks it*
A blessing for the Mandalorians and a curse for the people that wouldâve liked an interesting story.
Mandâalorâs Mask > The Darksaber
âYou know what the Mask means to my people. Without it we are lost, vagabonds wandering the galaxy without a purpose. Recovering the Mask could be the key to restoring Mandalorian honor and power.â
- Canderous Ordo
If the Crystal inside isnât destroyed, perhaps Grogu can make a new one later on
The handle might be the only part that's broken. I highly doubt Gideon had the strength to crush a lightsaber crystal and a unique one at that with that suit of his. But even if he did I'm fine with it being gone. If they do however bring it back I'm hoping that grogu obtained it and uses it to create a lightsaber. Grogu making his own lightsaber from it would make a lot of sense story wise as they don't know the location of other crystals and Luke wouldn't give up the location either. The original handle and blade length would be too unwieldy for grogu to actually use properly. So im thinking that he'll create his own lightsaber to fit his size and also use that favorite piece of the razor crest as part of the lightsaber hilt thus combining the mandalorian/jedi/ and father figure into one entity.
Ive always disliked how the Darksaber tied the legacy and rule of Mandalore to the Jedi, the mask was a much better concept that let the Mandalorians stand as their own faction.
That said; I was annoyed to see the Darksaber broken and discarded like a toy after Canon tried to build it up as this all important thing for so long.
To be fair building something up only to discard it when it doesnât seem useful anymore is something Disney Canon has done from the start.
â@@JaelaOrdo yeah.... yeah
The Dark Saber is an allegory to other mystic weapons like Excalibur and Mjolnir. Though they had to be earned through great effort, Arthur was still, through right of honor, still king of the Britons, and Thor was still the god of thunder. Point being, in a meritocracy like the Mandalorians, courage, honor, sacrifice, and tenacity are what make a good leader, not some blade. The blade is merely a figurehead. What Bo Katan should know is that the blade doesnât make the leader, the heart does.
I can imagine the Mandalorian Jedi didnât mean it to mean anything. Was just a cool lightsaber to them they used. Think his clan were ones that started that tradition maybe because that Mando Jedi was very good in combat and was seen as a leader to many.
I love the darksaber it's so freaking cool looking RIP darksaber
Imagine if there was a double-bladed Darksaber. That would be a dope weapon concept
Yeah RIP
I disagree, it is possible to kill an idea, but it is a messy process. It involves the burning of books and killing of people. Itâs an awful idea to consider, but if there is anywhere it could happen, it is the Star Wars universe.
The armor was always the true symbol of the mandolorians
Helmet's far more profound. That is the truth, and yet also a lie to some non-converts.
I prefer the Mask of Mandalore for the reasons stated in the video but also because it is just a more practical choice. Without the Force it is incredibly difficult to use a lightsaber and doubly so for the darksaber. They are definitely better off with it destroyed and needing a new method of choosing their rulers. Perhaps they could go with choosing based off merit, whoever proves they can lead better than the rest. That could actually facilitate a somewhat NATO like command system, though adapted to their culture. It would definitely make things go more smoothly than they would otherwise go.
While I admitted that the Darksaber is cool, why is it being used as a symbol of Mandalorian leadership instead of the Mask of Mandalore in the first place? And more importantly, what's the point of making the Mandalorians behaved more like the Sith in Canon anyway?
personally, I was surprised they destroyed it, because I was certain they were going to use it to set Grogu up to become both a Mandalorian and Jedi, it felt like it should have been the natural progression of events for both Grogu and the Darksaber. but now? who knows where they are going to go with it
Agreed and I think they destroyed it just to get rid of that idea
â@@goreobsessed2308 I feel like that would have been the best idea, having the symbol of Mandalorian hope and unity be part of the Mandalorians Rival Faction and caused by the deep bond between The Mandalorian and The Jedi is such a compelling story.
Din and Grogu are done now. Pedro is leaving the show, and the house of mouse already said that the Madalorian is NOT the Din Djarin show, but is about someone else.
@@jimmysmith2249 it doesn't change that I think it will be a compelling overarching theme.
I miss the good old days when Season meant 20-30 episodes. Now Season is barely 10 episodes... Fucking disgusting.
The mask of mandalore brings a better message of leadership than the dark saber is the message I get from the video
So what would happen if a Mandalorian had both Mask and Saber in their possession?
He would become the Master of the Deathly Hallows.
Question: Just many Mandalorian Jedi have their been in this universe or is Tar Vizla the only one?
There was some Mandolorian Jedi when Mitra Surik (can't remmeber the right name) or the Exhiled Jedi (during Madalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War) that join the rebuilding Jedi Order (after the first Jedi Purge, I believe)
Edit: I think I heared it in a video of this channel in the past
@@harry-duongchivy7172---I see. Thanks for responding. And if you can remember that channel's name I'd appreciate it.
@@brokenbridge6316 bruh, Greetsly's
@@harry-duongchivy7172---Don't you mean Geetsly's?
@@brokenbridge6316 yep!
I think the Darksaber is a cooler symbol, but the Mask of Mandalore was clearly much less divisive.
In the immortal words of the shaman from clan urdnot in mass effect âif the ones around you can not find you worthy of fighting besides, than you should go out to the wastelands and die aloneâ
Hey Iâve been wondering about the scene in mando s1 where heâs working on his armor and thereâs wiring on the backside of his chest plate. Havenât been able to find anything about it. Is it a magnetic seal of some form?
I think itâs because mandalorian armor is vacuum sealed
Thanks for covering this. I still get headaches trying to find the rightful owner of the saber. Narrowed it down to like 4 people, but no matter which way you go, half the time sidious is still the owner. Or Luke. Depends.
I still think it would be super cool for the mask of mandalore to be in the next season of The Mandalorian
It's not even canon now. It would need a lot of exposition to reintroduce it. I doubt they want to bother. The show seems allergic to dialogue and actually exploring things in-depth.
Oh man I love the thumbnail
Moff Gideon unwittingly saved Mandalorian culture by destroying that saber.
Mandalorians are some of the best lore in SW.
That ending quote sounded very Batman-esque.
While they were killing off plot devices they should've continued with Grogu and The Mandalorian! It's the Bo-Katan show now! They'll do to Din Djarin what they used him to do with Boba Fett! This is the WAY!
Don't ask questions
Just consume product
Then get excited
For new product
Finally someone else said it. I cheered when Gideon crushed it
FOR MOFF GIDEON!
Long Live The Empire!
I truly hate the thing with the Dark Saver even back then with the Mask of Mandalore if these things got Captured and yes this happend with the Mask of Mandalore Reva hide it after killing Mandalore the Ultimate during the Mandalorian wars
What happened to the mask in legends in the present day events? I don't hear anything about it being there at that period
With the blade destroyed, we may see a return of the helm of mandaloreâŠ. We shall see.
Whole mandalorians, and their bobbles, and idea of a spiritual emperor essentially who actually does represent interest of their people reminds me a lot of klingons and the whole plot arc with clone of Kahless(their Og mandalore essentially).
When all wraps up, warf stuck in crisis of faith because basically seen his version of their mandalore but turned out to be a âdont meet your heroesâ event. In end, question of his faith is whether or not kahless will return like he was raised to believe. To which the clone remarks something to effect of, âwho cares if he never returns, maybe it is not the man who is important, but the words he said that mattersâ
Ie, yeah. Dark saber (again, theres an equivalent in trek for klingons, sword of khaless), or the mask or this or that. Can lose all of it, but what has made mandolorians, mandolorian, by this point? Can never be lost. Besides, societies that love trinkets just find a fill in eventually, afterall, kinda is part of being mandalorian, cos actually believe in taking care of things they own versus âoh, weâll just exploit another rim world and make moreâ mentality of both republic and empire.
Bo-katan: "mandalorians are stronger together."
How right she was
@@neofulcrum5013 she truly understood the problems of her people.
The Mask having deeper meaning and symbolism is actually better IMO.
I think the Jedi would welcome its destruction. And if it was originally constructed by a Mandalorian Jedi, I think he'd be disappointed that his people were divided by it.
Do you think that itâs possible to have a hand held version of a tractor beam? almost for normal people to simulate the force on a small scale?
I have little respect for a group who gets so tied up over useless items. Their society collapsed over a missing hat after all.
Please do a video on cis navy structure and ranks
This is the way!!
I would love to see the mask of Manda'lor return
had hopes the mask would come into play at some point but ig not.
Well Gideon already crush the thing, so no worry, it's not likely for the Mando cults to find another lightsaber hilt that can generates a blade like that, assuming they manages to finds the crush artifact, takes out the crystal that hopefully isn't crash and insert it into another hilt that won't just explodes immediately.
No pressure, ok, just No pressure.
WHAT happened to the helmet? It was recovered after revan went back with somebody to the planet, the other guy took it and ascended as the leader of Mandolore
I'm gonna be honest. I grew to dislike the saber to eventually being annoyed by it. I already hate those vizula trash, and rebels didn't help at all on expensing its history. I did chuckle like Palpy when I learned about the aftermath and consequence of what's her name tokan mando giving up the saber. But since then Disney has milked it to the point of everyone having it. I'm glad to see it go.
Mandalorian season 4: search for The mask of mandalore
Theyâll probably reveal that the destroyed Dark Saber was a replica and the real one is elsewhere.
Though that could be for an interesting plot
The dark saber and other artifacts should be a symbol of power and leadership but shouldnât determine it.
Dunno if would call the Darksaber "toxic" it was it's people's choice to determine HOW they reacted to it... The thing seemed to be almost benevolent at times looking out for its people seemingly by controlling WHOM was worthy to have it. Like it KNEW of its own importance to ALL living Mandalorians. An wanted both a leader that was competent, confident an ALSO wasn't gonna be weak, dumb or have anything other then the Mandalorians as a whole's interests at heart concerning them. Something only seemed to be matched by how "Lord of the Rings'" "One Ring" existed to serve Saurons' interests of Evil an only thing it did for itself was try an get back to him.. Imagine if the Darksaber or say any other powerful Force User's blade like Kenobi's, Yoda's or Luke's took on a similar semi sentience like these BUT AND actively SEARCHED out worthy users. Even if one didn't at first appear or even themselves see themselves as worthy.. could be interesting to see
This is the way
I personally donât see a reality where grogu doesnât repair the darksaber/reuse the crystal
Virgin Darksaber < Chad Mask of Mandalore
mandalorian: you don't know da wae
The destruction of the darksaber is ultimately a good thing for mandalorians moving forward, it's absence will allow them to unite under a new banner. Either way, the kyber crystal wasn't destroyed, there would've been an explosion of some sort, so it is potentially reforgable.
How much y'all wanna bet that season 4 or 5 has the mask of mandalore. And the darksaber makes a comeback. A monarch of mandalore is crowned. I like the mask more btw.
I prefer both, me wearing the mask of Mandalore and wielding the dark saber!
The mask is a cool artifact with cool traditions, but none of the Mandalorians superstitions around it are valid, so it makes them seem a bit archaic and silly.
What I like about the darksaber is that it's tied to the in-universe space magic of The Force.
As, not just a lightsaber, but a particularly difficult lightsaber, wielding the darksaber competently would require the same traits it takes to be an effective leader, for good or evil.
Strength of will, sense of self, clarity, resoluteness, ect.
And wielding the darksaber incompetently, along with any other grievances, would make a leader's shortfalls plain to see.
Plus wielding the saber poorly would make defeat at the hands of a successor more likely.
I think it's a fantastic re-envisioning of the Excalibur, gram, or a blade of kings trope in a scifi setting.
You know when you say that the Darksaber encourages sith like behavior who said that Tor Vesla was actually a jedi and not a darksider?
Neither I would prefer a double sided vibro spear made of Frick and a jawa ion blaster.
Disagree. It appears to have remained with clan visla for a thousand years. .there were only a couple of fights over it . ( In. A short period).
I'm pretty sure when mandalor called all the mandalorians answered. And I'm pretty sure other mandalors started out as gladiators or bounty hunters. It's a title and a symbol. And mandalorians did have titles snf Lords, lady's, dutchess. Ect .
The Senate nearly destroyed all of the Jedi.
the mask was better
how you get it was also more like how the mandalorians people were like
For the mandalorians, probably, but not the fans. Also, i don't think the mask is a good symbol either necessarily due purely for the luck aspect it in no way shows the mandalore has the physical strength required to fight if need be sure all mandalorians are strong and cunning but what if their leader isn't what happens then?
I like the Darksaber the mask can go bye bye
Sorry, but the mask doesnât sound better to me. The first one to claim it warns leadership? And you canât challenge the leader for the mask? The Darksaber is quite divisive, especially if the fandom ends up asking who between the main characters who should be allies are going to survive a fight to the death, but the mask seems to make leadership too open. I mean, is leadership something that should be decided by chance? The mask may have a different story, but it seems to have the same risks as the Darksaber.
I was kinda hoping that Djarin (still wish Din was his given name) got to keep it and that he became the next person to carry the mantle of Mandalore.
Legends>Canon. Sure the darksaber is cooler than a mask, until you know more lore with masks in the Star Wars expanded universe. There are ways to write this stuff so Disney doesn't have to disrespect everything that built the universe it intends to capitalize on and destroy as it converts into a universe more cringe with our own nonsense and erroneous issues they intend to make everyone's issue. I remember growing up with a Disney that made products that could bring families together rather than divide families over issues that are barely real in our universe shoehorned into a universe that could be used to resolve or how to see past these issues, like star trek tried to. But Disney would rather just destroy legacy characters for profit. Destroy the greatest franchise in cinematic history to spread false ideology that has no foundation in genuine reality or perception of what it would do with tomorrow. I just look to San Francisco whenever I think about Disneys stance in their political views. And all these people who cause all this will retire wealthier than any human could require and will sleep like a baby. This is happening in real world politics as well. The world diminishes while those who were in trusted with the future have thrown away any competent approach and just seek profit before they allow it to implode. In my opinion these are the greatest enemies of humans in existence. Until they cease to be the world will diminish more and more everyday whether we are allowed to see it or not. There are no sides in this other than those who see themselves as elites over those who they see as too insignificant to rank on their radar as worthy of human rights. These people are the enemy of humanity and will eradicate it's future just for self gain. When you are starving to death watching your loved ones accept their end without hope, remember how they brainwashed society into accepting their totalitarian self interests with complete pathetic complacency and accept your part in our end.
Deathwatch and its remnants are not mandalorians!
Mask. All day every day.
The mandalorian finale sucked. There i said it
The saber is clearly better, it's cooler, it can fight against Lightsabers, and unlike the mask, you have to actually earn it. With the mask, all someone has to do is find it and then all Mandalorians have to blindly follow them. That kind of thinking led to the Mandalorian Wars and when that one Mandalorian disagreed and tried to save civilians they got killed and their mask was recovered by Revan who promised to avenge him and stop this bloodshed. I mean if you go with the mask ideology then when Gideon had the saber he could have made the Mandalorians do anything he wants, but the Mandalorians weren't stupid so they didn't follow Gideon just because he had the saber. Some random shumk can't just take charge of things just because they happened to find the mask. The saber, despite some flaws in its ideology, at least has to be earned in some way shape, or form. I appreciate that. I'm not just going to blindly follow someone just because they have something, even something cool like that mask, you have to do something to earn my loyalty and prove yourself so I know you're more qualified and better than me. You did that, Geetsly. I love Star Wars, but just making Star Wars videos isn't enough to gain my favor, they have to be actually good and sometimes thought-provoking, and maybe demonstrate a large knowledge of the lore that goes beyond what I know(proving you know more than me), which is exactly what most of you're videos do, Geetsly. That is why I am loyal to you Grand Master Geetsly, and why you're the only Star Wars CZcamsr I subscribe to (not the only one I watch mind you, but the only one I think is worthy of subscribing too), this lowly Padawan has much to learn from you. Even if I still completely disagree with how harsh you are with the Republic, but since I'm more following saber ideology than mask ideology I don't have to blindly follow you, I'm allowed to challenge you on things and still be mostly loyal.
I would prefer it if Disney stops shiting over George Lucas's legacy Yeah but I actually prefer the dark saver because it's one of the only light savers wielded by non force users..