Ford Bronco Badlands vs Jeep Wrangler 392 - Two Epic Off-Roaders Face Off!
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2021
- We take a spin in the Wrangler 392 and the Ford Bronco Badlands to feel which handles the trail better.
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I do believe that ford has put the pressure on jeep. Which can only mean a better product going forward.
That's absolutely right maybe the Wrangler will finally have long travel independent suspension on four wheels.
The laugh with the 392 said it all.
love the demo of ford sway bar disconnect and the wheel is still off the ground
I love that that we see the wrangler struggle to flex on a dirt hill at 3:00
@@mattg8116 went through without lockers.
@@fireant1272 true, do you think the Bronco couldn't though? Seemed like he had to use the skinny pedal a bit to give some momentum. All is fair offroading though, I bet you could do the same with the Bronco
@@mattg8116 yes they are both capable vehicles. To me it seems like the wrangler is better off road (articulation solid axels and more agile) Bronco better on road (independent)
@@mattg8116 little traction is better than 0 traction
Should have done that first hill without the locker like the Wrangler...if you are going to compare 2 vehicles compare them in the same settings.
I think your evaluation is spot on. It's a tough call and it all comes down to the things that separate them. One has to be real sensitive to their needs and use case. Thanks guys. A big thumbs up.
Great job boys, this was a very good quick comparison.
Fellas, get you a base or low trim Bronco/Wrangler and live like a king.
You are right: spending $80,000 on an “off-road” vehicle that is going to get bashed up on the trail makes no sense.
If you are buying a vehicle to impress the neighbors, fine. But in that case who cares how it performs on the trail? If you want to go fast, there are much better, safer, alternatives out there.
When it comes to off-roading, less is usually more.
I got a base 2 door bronco no options except the Sasquatch package (2” lift, better gear ratio, lockers, 35’s) and for 40k out the door it’s fun as hell
Good comparison. For what each one cost, I have a place to live, a 4wd pickup, a 550 ft. bass pond, and a fleet of 3 and 4 wheelers to ride around my property. Who's having fun now? Enjoy your work guys.
Dang out here on the west coast, couldn’t even get a single wide on rented land for that.
What no one seems to mention is the cabin size. Granted I'm 6'-4", but while my head hits the ceiling in a Jeep and my knees hit the dash (I'm not kidding) - they don't in the Bronco. The interior of the Bronco is way more spacious and comfortable. So not only does it ride nicer on road, it's far more comfortable on road...
Facts
That’s bc you’re buying a bigger vehicle. Anyhow, I’m 6’1’’ and the wrangler is fine for me. Not many people are as big as you. So I think the wrangler works for most.
@@damnjustassignmeone Most women. Kidding! Mostly. As in my area all I see is the stickers in the back that say "Silly boys, Jeeps are for girls". But I'm in the same boat as the OP. I'm 6'4 245lb, I liked my wrangler. But the space goes to the Bronco, my new Outer Banks Sasquatch 4dr fits me nicely!
@@ec3886 Well, only about 1% of American men are 6’4” or taller. So, while I’ll grant you that very tall guys may have issues with Wranglers, the vast majority of men won’t. That’s all I’m saying. If you need something bigger, a Bronco is a great option for sure.
@@damnjustassignmeone Not only that, but I got my Jeep (Gladiator Rubicon) for WAY less than I could a top-trim Bronco. And no waiting. ;-)
-- BR
Great video! But you can initiate the rear locker in four high if you hit the OFFROAD+ button.
The best thing about bronco will keep jeep from price gouging everyone like they been doing for 20 plus years .
You can lock the lockers in high in offroad+ mode in the 392 as well.
Excellent content again Stephen!
Ordered my 2022 Bronco earlier this week. Can’t wait for it to go into production. Pretty much identical config to the one tested here except in white.
You might get it in 2025. Fingers crossed for you
I ordered mine august 5 and being built on dec 6 won’t be that long.
@@adamriner213 4 door soft top?
My Bronco Badlands Sasquatch 4-door will be here in two weeks! I cannot wait to get that beast on some trails!
I drove from Minnesota to Arkansas and then from Arkansas to Arizona and back and never had any problem ever with the Wrangler wandering or being hard or tiring to drive, the wind noise from the hard top seal was about the only bad thing about it, it held the road on corners really well compared to a lot of newer cars that I have driven.
Great video again, once again proving your the best!
Very good drive comparison.
Fantastic job boys!!
Thanks so much!
Taser JL MINI allows you to lock the rear locker in 2wd.. allows you lock the lockers in 4Wd high
I want to see the V8 in the Gladiator Mojave
I like that my ARB Locker in my 4Runner, can lock in whatever mode I want, on the fly.
When talking about the compromise between SFA and IFS why does everyone equate off-roading with flexed out rock crawling, and assume IFS is only better for on road ride? What happened to highspeed stuff? The Bronco absolutely has some benefits off-road.
Best off road comparison video on CZcams definitely two comparable contenders .
Glad you liked it
I love the jeeps V-8 sound but I would still go with the bronco it’s such a phenomenal daily driver and plenty plenty of offered capability for a lot less money
@I QUIT YT The v8 Wranglers are not out yet?
@@garys2157 huh? They’ve been selling them for months now.
@@tedmontgomery5669 I didn't know that's why I had the "?", thanks.
Wranglers are actually cheaper price on all “equivalent” models.
Yep 2024
I hope we are going to see a Maverick video soon
Cheers
Going with the IFS was a good decision by Ford. Making it a better driving experience on-road with 98% of the Wrangler's offroad capability makes it the better choice for me.
i think it was a cost saving with rangers shared platform was the driving decision
98% sound like a made up number to help ifs folks cope
98% lol what?
@@Ihateironyanddumbusernames definitely. Tacoma bros still trying. I was one
More like 75%. When you only get 3/4 of the wheels to put good pressure into the ground it’s not 98% 🤡
Another great one
Great video.
Thanks!
I agree with everything you both said.
The Bronco is super capable off-road and combine that with its more refined on-road dynamics and you've got a winner. Putting the 6.4L in the Wrangler is hilarious but more speed is not at all what you want in a tall, narrow vehicle with front and rear solid axles, recirculating-ball steering and all-terrain tires.
So a big motor to you means “more speed”? This is a jeep not a sports car lol. The 6.4L was never intended to add speed.
@@hayden8693 Ummmm no a hemi is fast no matter how you choose to tune it. The only difference is how fast. The word fast and hemi is never removed from one another. A hemi in a wrangler is freakin stupid, you don't need a hemi if you want more torque.
@@BasedGhoul the hemi has offroad purposes for the people who actually buy a Jeep to use it like a Jeep. 99% of people will use it to get speeding tickets on the way to the grocery store.
@@hayden8693 They say the torque is nice, learning how to use it would be a necessity, so you don't put yourself in bad situations, and another necessity would be to bring extra gas cans.
The fact that you think a v-8 in a wrangler is for “Speed” is very telling about how much you wheel. The bronco is literally built for people like you who don’t off road but want to seem like you do. 😂
I can lock my gladiator rubicon axles in 4hi and 2wd. It’s called a JL mini tazer. And my lockers engage very quickly. Sometimes they don’t want to let go, but that’s cause they are bound up.
Another "fun" feature on the Wrangler you had is the 'Sky One Touch' retractable roof. Hopefully, the Bronco designers will work that in in future model years.
What I fail to understand is that a Power Wagon with the same powertrain starts at 65,000 Can$ and has dana 60s with lockers why is the Jeep over $100,000
You would have to have more money than sense to pay 100,000 grand for a keep that rides like crap on the road. Hell the Trx is cheaper and nicer
For a small segment of population that this is built for its not about the money. 70k or 100k isn’t a lot to them for a toy.
Also cars aren’t priced based on size. Wrangler 392 is way more popular than a power wagon so higher price makes sense. Way more people want the wrangler as a toy compared to power wagon and fca knows that so they price accordingly.
i don't think this comparison will matter once production exceeds 10000 units a year. jeep is only going to make so many 392. ford will eventual get there production numbers
Great video - you will have to do it again when the “Raptor” Bronco comes out…
Got my badlands last week. Love every minute of it.
Congrats
Im still waiting on mine
Does the Sasquatch package use break based AWD for modes, or it's only using lockers and AWD features are on lower models like Wrangler? I thought Bronco packed both awd and 4x4 in higher trims
Great video guys. For me, I'd pick the Bronco. A lot because I think I'd fit better. I fit fine in a wrangler, but shoulder/upper arm rests against B pillar. I'd also get the 2.3L/Sasquatch, then go with 5-star tuning tuner.
The Jeep made you giggle. The Bronco did not. Jeep.
In a year, we can discuss reliability and see who wins. Good comparison on vehicle functionality.
The swaybar disconect on the jeep Wrangler can be engadged on bumps, its capible, but the software doesnt allow it, if you get a jeep Tazer you can make it unlock anytime you want
Waiting to see what they can do with the Bronco Raptor on 37's.
I bought a two-door Big Bend with Sasquatch and the V6 that was my choice
I would love to have either one but you do drive them on the road a lot more.
I believe the Bronco is a very capable vehicle. My concern is there is a buttnfor this and a button for that. I like manual levers etc. The electronic equipment tends to break more often and can’t be trail fixed like a manual connection.
Not really.
Mo electronics mo problems.
I am interested in off-roading, but need a vehicle as a daily driver as well weekend adventurer. I've already got a Bronco on order. The type of off-roading that would really challenge the Bronco is probably not in my future, so there was no need to sacrifice the on-road handling and comfort or safety features of the Bronco for capability I'd never use.
I love seeing these off road trucks strut their stuff but I would like to see even a new work truck with 4wd out there with them to see the difference. I would bet a 4wd work truck would make it through a lot of that.
You can also access the rear locker in the Bronco while in 2 HI
I think you can do so in the Wrangler as well if I'm not mistaken.
@@wildbill23c it would makes sense
I think Stephen giggling with all the power in the Jeep said it all. That thing sounds bad *ss coming through the woods. Both seem like great choices though. Again we the consumers win with more great vehicles to pick from.
Wow, I'm 6'4". I fit great in a Wrangler. Sat in a Bronco at a dealership. Couldn't drive it though. I just love the Jeep. Bronco looks awesome.
i’m heading back to the states in about a month and a few days. And I need to get a vehicle. I’m considering the 392 XR and the bronco raptor. I like both off road capabilities. I'm starting to realize the 4.5 sec 0-60 and the sound of the v8 doesn't really interest me. I think I'm leaning towards the Bronco for the technology and comfort. If I have to get the 392 XR with the one touch roof, I could live with that choice too.
Great video. Unfortunately, the Bronco is nearly impossible to get for many long time reservation holders. Ford's dealer allocation formula for 2022 prioritizes large volume dealers over customer reservations. Ford has all but abandoned their commitment to deliver reservations before dealer stock. For customers that reserved at smaller dealers who have fully embraced the Bronco, it will take years for them to get a delivery.
Did you paste and copy this on every Off Road video on CZcams….for the love god man just let it go‼️
@@mannbates2677 lol noticed that too
@@bryanbaldassarri3248 Slow day at the office and not everyone knows about this issue.
Every time I see the Bronco's swaybar used in a video, it never makes all for wheels touch the ground.
Can you compare the Hummer Ev and the Cybertruck once they come out?? Maybe throw the Rivian in there??
That bronco is 🔥🔥🔥
Please tell me who waits until they are on an obstacle to disconnect the sway bar. People if you have never been off road hit the button at the start of the trail or get rock jock and never worry about it again 😁
Before the Bronco came out, I was excited for it. Now its here and after driving the two, I still prefer the wrangler , especially the 392. It just feels "right". There are a lot of choices if you want an "off roaders" with IFS, but there is only one wrangler. Also in my opinion, , it's more "fun" to drive. It makes me feel better.
Do you know if either of these will come to Australia I love a bronco
You don't have to switch to 4-lo to lock the rear. Just put it in 4h hit the off-road+ and lock the rear
I drove a Bronco recently, on road and it drove really nice for the size of it. But your dad is right, if you want FUN, get a Hemi. I'm not a Chrysler fan but they sure do love BIG engines.
Yep. I’d take the jeep simply for the engine…those Jeep’s will be worth something one day…especially since all the automakers are trying to go to electric….wish I could afford one
@@semiauto3148 The hybrid Wrangler is supposed to be nice, except gets a bit heavier.
@@garys2157 yeah. Im sure it’s nice. But that big engine is the one for me
They make good engines, if only I could say the same about their transmissions, good thing they slid German transmissions in most of their cars
Pimped out badlands 58k pimped out v8 jeep 75k or so. I'll take the badlands for the price.
I test drive a bronco and it handled very nice on road. I can get 95 percent of what a Jeep can get me off road and much more on road comfort . Interior is way left crowded feeling also. I'll probably order a badlands sasquatch in the next month or two with the V6.
Any word on when the 392 will be on sale in Canada
Hello, how much more internal space does the bronco have over the jeep? Is the bronco closer to driving a f150 cab space wise?
Vehicle capability wise you guys hit the nail on the head. The interior is still up for debate. IMO the Wrangler interior just sort of works. No major interior issues. The Bronco on the other hand is a huge let down. The materials used are not as good, things wobble and move about, the roof is recall-able because it doesn't seal, just a whole mess of quality issues. For my money I'd still get a Wrangler simply due to the aftermarket support and the time on the market to get the quirks worked out. That may change in a year or two, but for now the Bronco is just too new and unsorted.
Probably the most level headed comment
jeep needs a better seat. and would love them to move the sport bar back a foot.
@@jeffforbes70 God that's the truth the seats are so awful. Feels like my legs are tilting downward while sitting extremely flat.
Man the new Bronco is beautiful
To be able to put a Shelby GT 500 v8 in a bronco that would be some awesome 😎 👏🏿 fun for sure
I love how the bronco allows the sasquatch package on lower trim models, which is amazing. the base model wouldn't configure with the manual with the sasquatch package, but that would be cool. there's probably a way to configure it like that, I just didn't see.
The Mansquatch it's supposed to be available in 22', when approximately no one knows, but they say they're supposed to put the manual would be Sasquatch package, that's what I'm waiting for as well.
One more slight advantage to IFS you never hear about is in snow. They usually have more clearance in front so you can usually back up in deep snow. With the solid axle in front it acts like a plow and in stiff snow will stop you pretty quick and if you were going too fast you're stuck and can't back out. It a small advantage for the Bronco but since they're so close, that's what ends up making the difference. In the end, they both have more than enough capability off-road that anybody can need so the big difference is on road and the Bronco is a clear winner there.
LOL "They both have more capability than anyone can need"
I guess that's why there's no multi billion dollar industry where people spend $$ to make their 4x4s more capable right? What kind of logic are you using bud?
@@Ihateironyanddumbusernames I guess the same logic that thought this clip was comparing vehicles produced by a major manufacturer. I also realize there are side by sides and atvs in case you didn't know.
I live in a very high cost of living state, and surprisingly, I have not yet seen the off-road (top of the line) version of the Bronco on the road. I did see what I guess is the base model, and it looked very cheap. I have no doubt of the off-road chops of the top of the line model, however, I do not trust the quality of American nameplate vehicles, and damn sure not at $60, $70, and $80,000. 'Back in the day', 48 month auto loans were the norm. Now, I see advertisements for 84 month auto loans. I wonder what percentage of owners are able to afford these vehicles within 4 years or less?
That 392 Rubicon does sound great!
sadly I'll never wrangle the cash to a ford either. But you looked like you had a lot of fun :)
I can’t comment on performance on either since I drove neither, but wow as far as appearance goes that Bronco just blows Jeep out the door.
I'm new to off roading and trying to understand what you mean by locking the rear and front differentials? What does it do and why would you want to do it? Sorry, I'm a newbie.
Everyone was new once, its Okay. Locking the differentials pushes power to each wheel equally. Without it the power goes to the wheel with the least traction - not what you want in a slippery situation
@@TruckKing thank you for responding. I assume 4 high and 4 low just depends on the speed you want to travel at?
If the 392 could be had in a 2-door with a manual, I’d live in a tent to own it. Because that’s not an option, I’m getting a manual 2-door Bronco.
wrangler's better articulation is because of the solid front axle
Yes, but most people never actually leave pavement in their offroad toys, so most will never have any sort of a clue what having solid axles does for a vehicle's offroad capability.
@@wildbill23c very true! I just said the better articulation is the result of the Solid front axle. I know most people rather have the on-road comfort rather than having a slightly better off-road car.
How about high speed Baja off-roading? Does Bronco win that?
Remember…. The more bells and whistles,the more chances for stuff to break.
Already have a 4-door Jeep (JLU) & wouldn’t mind a 2-door Bronco to add to the garage if supply ever picks-up. No way I’m paying $5K+ over MSRP.
The price alone would lead me to buy the Bronco. V-8 power is not that important to most people who want off-road capability, and the Bronco sure delivers.
I always watch your videos. I usually trust your recommendations but not sure what to make of this one. You recommend a Bronco which, for all intents and purposes is impossible to get and, if you do, you have to deal with endless production issues, insane dealer markups and play all sorts of games.
There are starting to appear dozens of photos online of Broncos with broken front ends. Apparently that IFS cannot withstand many modifications. Considering that not many Broncos have been delivered, this is concerning.
No thanks. I’ll take the Jeep. It might not be the flavor of the week, but it gets the job done, does it well and is proven.
Time will tell with the Bronco - you're right. As for us - we can only offer a opinion based on a short drive - not very scientific but its all we were allowed.
Don’t forget about the Bronco has more room for us big boys.
there are seat extensions but if your over 6,1 you have the sport bar to deal with
@@jeffforbes70 I’m 6’3” 290 and I’m very comfortable in the Bronco.
@@BigWheelFab 6'1 265. can make jeep work. but barely.maybe in 2022 we will see some on dealer lots
🔥🔥🔥
Is that a closed course next to the track?
yes
Just purchased a wrangler. Good price too. Can't get a bronco under 40K. I paid 41for my Wrangler sport
Nice 👍
Nice overview with the limited time you had. Fair net/net takeaway at the end. For me it's a Jeep all day every day though. That 392 and not having to worry about first year production issues, easy decision.
Coming from a generation where V8s were the standard in off-road vehicles, I have always hated the Jeep Wrangler didn't come with option in my JKU. I wasn't going to invest in a swap and I know it is highly unlikely that Ford will ever put a V8 in the Bronco (even the Raptor), so I have turned my focus about off-road capability. Anything built right, will conquer just about anything you throw at it.
Just go take a look at LiteBrites channel and how impressive the Bronco did against a $100K built Jeep.
czcams.com/video/L7aaRpT4HVY/video.html&ab_channel=LiteBrite
That Bronco is not stock either and is probably getting close to $80k itself. But yes it did do well.
100k for a jeep?I paid the same for my house lol.Prices are getting ridiculous,the average person cannot afford these
Love the JEEP! Used to have a Ford truck which is why I'm a "never another Ford" guy. It's Dodge and Jeep all the way. I love the way the Jeep went through the offset ruts with all 4 wheels on the ground while the Bronco had a wheel in the air all through them. I would definitively stick with JEEP. Good video!
You mean Fiat all the way!
Get a Toyota, then you'll be a never another Dodge/Jeep/Fiat, Ford or GMC guy.
@@AnAbortiveRomance You just pay more for parts buying Toyota...my 2008 Tundra was my first and last new Toyota....their quality has gone way down in the past couple decades, was far from impressed with the problems the Tundra had as Toyota is trying to push it to compete with 3/4 ton trucks and can't even hold up to very light 1/4 ton and 1/2 ton duties.
Yah couldn’t give and a ram truck with there junk transmissions or the jeep the breaks all the time on trails or the way they wonder all over the road . Just my opinion.
@@nycmaverick Stellantis, they french/dutch now
Good morning Truck King...been a long time
Morning Ron; where you been?
@@TruckKing I apologize guys...working alot over there...they keep telling me they love my work...Sorry about that Steve and Howard..great work like always!!😃You guys are Awesome!!
Most of the people commenting have never driven a new JL Wrangler or a new Bronco…
I've driven both, they both drove fine for me. I just hate the Jeep pricing and available equipment models. Value for money just isn't there for me, which sucks because I love jeeps. If jeep were to offer a lower trim model with a rear locker I'd be happy to buy one, but they don't.
@@williamreinhardt2774 I get it. I bought a 2Dr fully loaded Rubicon with the 3.6L E-torque and 8-speed. It’s seriously amazing. It’s quick and getting 21-22 mpg.
@@DUNEATV Woof, good way to spend some serious coin haha. I hope you enjoy it!
@@williamreinhardt2774 Yes, I got it in January with $5 grand off MSRP. Now it’s worth about $10 grand more than I paid! Crazy
@@DUNEATV That is crazy, but also awesome for you, congrats!
I have a 2014 and I can take my hands off the wheel an it tracks straight as an arrow I don’t understand the wandering thing
if your really going to be honest, these two vehicles are heavily biased for OFF road and if your not interested in best off road capability you wouldn't buy either. There are tons of on road SUVs available from both manufacturers, including better versions of Bronco and Wrangler, that are far superior for on road use. So the only reason to buy one of these is for best off road use and the Wrangler wins hands down.
Too bad the wrangler is so terrible on road that I won’t be keeping mine long enough to know it’s off road capability.
@@boughtandpaidforautoreview1150 why would you buy one and never go off road? Your picture is a tundra that rides just as awful as my gladiator with none of the capability
Oh please.....most people who own Jeeps hardly see dirt let alone serious off road.
Same will be said for new Bronco owners.
Most are after the look....or to make a statement but most will never use the ability.
But who would really pay 100,000 dollars for a jeep the most unreliable vehicle.
Let’s be honest if you wanted a real off-roader buy a razor or x3.
In our part (rest of the world) we consider locking is cheating, but in the west not locking differential is considered cheating🤣😃. We off road in a manual trans with no crawl control, no lockers, no multi-terrain select, no oversized tyres, no re-gearing.
When I think about a vehicle I will take off road. I think about what can go wrong and how easily can I fix it. I am not a fan of a lot of electronic niceties off-road, I would much rather just have simplicity. As far as on road that is a different story.
Great memory reviews are always made of shorter content and time. Great job, I’m a wrangler owner and it is a rough ride on the road, Jeep needs to borrow😂some of Fords ideas of road comfort
You mean IFS?
@@jeremybarcelo6486 yes sir absolutely
Price difference?
At 7:20 you say that you cannot lock up the rear except in 4-lo. That's not true in 2021+ rubicons. In off-road+ mode, you can lock up the rear after you've turned off stability control.
My gladiator lockers are very easy to engage. He probably wasn’t in low range and couldn’t lock up.
Yeah that should limit the speed that you can use and engage the locker when you're in 4 high is what they should do....
My neighbor just got a Badlands with the Sasquatch package and it’s pretty sweet! However the interior fit and finish isn’t great and the fuel mileage is awful!
below 17?
so why do you want your axles locked while doing 40mph?