My Uncle's DA Letter

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • Here is a copy of the letter! Hope you all are doing good!
    lockedinthetower@gmail.com
    / kat.gon.75
    To the congregation of Jehovah’s Witness,
    I am writing this letter to inform you that I no longer want to be associated with your organization to include my wife and family united.
    I hope you brothers have the courage to read this letter to understand my intentions fully.
    Yes, it is true that I have not associated with your group since 2009 and I certainly have found them to be the most stress-free years of my life. Consequently since 2009 I had lived with the guilt and remorse of not pleasing the creator by not associating with the so-called “Faithful and discreet slave class” and abiding by their direction. However the following activities engaged in by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and the faithful and discreet slave have come to light that I for some time had thought with a clear conscience could not for the following reasons-(plus more too numerous to name):
    1. United Nations NGO-DPI Association from 1991-2001.
    2. Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe membership in 9-17-2004.
    3. The Australian Royal Commission (1,000 alleged perpetrators of child abuse).
    4. Participants in the 2012 Growth Markets Summit Goldman Sachs 2012.
    5. Chemicals buried in Ulster 12-27-2011.
    6. Ownership of stock in the following companies, under layered entities like the H.M. Riley Trust and others that include ownership in the following:
    o Lockheed Martin (War)
    o Raytheon (War)
    o Baxter International (Blood)
    o Rand Cam Corp. (War)
    7. The Malawi, Mexico, Oath of Allegiance.
    8. The Faithful and Discreet slave not selected in 1919 (100 years of untruth), but in a future event. July 15th, 2013 Watchtower.
    9. The Governing Body is neither inspired nor perfect. It can make mistakes when explaining the Bible or directing organization. February 2017 Watchtower.
    10. The organization is blood-guilty regarding - blood, rape, and political affiliations.
    -entertain the idea of returning to your Jehovah, nor live under the affliction of guilt that your organization puts on the rank and file. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, to say the least, has destroyed my belief in God itself (I know it will not mean anything to your leaders in general, but to me it was everything). To paraphrase one of your past presidents, “Responsible men and women conclude that if this organization belongs to God, then he must be a very weak and powerless God. ‘If that is the best God can do to clean up and reform the world, then we are better off without such a God. We will not follow him, nor will we have any confidence in him”. Prohibition League of Nations Born of God or the Devil which? J.F. Rutherford. If you feel the need to visit with me regarding any of the points listed above, please feel free to do so. However, I must express to you that I will as the expression goes "flame throw" all this necessary information and more to any Watchtower Bible and Tract Society representatives with the goal of convincing them to flee Babylon the great and the disgusting that stands in place of God. I will from this day forward advertise to any and all visitors to my home and those that I meet of my viewpoints regarding your organization.
    Yours sincerely

Komentáře • 103

  • @ThePainterr
    @ThePainterr Před 7 lety +7

    BIG thanks for sharing. Very inspiring...picked up on a point or two I will be investigatng further too. The more I hear, the louder my sigh! This organisation is seriously doing my head in with all its lies and deceit. Greetings from the UK!

  • @TheKoolbraider
    @TheKoolbraider Před 7 lety +21

    Practically fell out of my chair laughing when hearing "the most stress free years of my life"! Good for him. I hope others can use this as an example of DA letters everywhere. (I love wind chimes.) Oh, and "your Jehovah..."

  • @holirumicsfriend
    @holirumicsfriend Před 6 lety +4

    Wonderful letter, thanks for sharing!

  • @ep6460
    @ep6460 Před 6 lety +4

    Thankyou so much for the letter I am so pleased you will allow me to use this as a basis for my own get lost letter. Thankyou very much.

  • @jcxgonzalez6512
    @jcxgonzalez6512 Před 7 lety +10

    Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Mexico.

  • @mjp4111
    @mjp4111 Před 6 lety +2

    Awesome letter!

  • @clementmabunda3131
    @clementmabunda3131 Před 7 lety +21

    I appreciate your sharing this letter with us. In fact, I have intentions of uploading and unpacking my disassociation letter on my blog (thinkingwitnesses.org). I'm just investigating the legalities involved, for I have no intentions of redacting it, lol.
    Thanks again, uh, "Locked In The Tower"

    • @lockedinthetower2488
      @lockedinthetower2488  Před 7 lety +5

      Lol yes make sure everything is alright before uploading it, we would love to see it! Also, I had a chance to see your blog! I appreciate the layout and look forward to reading all the articles!

    • @clementmabunda3131
      @clementmabunda3131 Před 7 lety +1

      Sheryl St. Germain Good point... I'll drop the link when I've written the accompanying article. ;)

    • @clementmabunda3131
      @clementmabunda3131 Před 7 lety

      Let me feast my eyes...

  • @gabrielpmusic1
    @gabrielpmusic1 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for that, continue to be strong..

  • @douglasjoyce4994
    @douglasjoyce4994 Před 6 lety +4

    THANK YOU.

  • @adriancc8050
    @adriancc8050 Před 7 lety +6

    great letter. thanks for sharing

  • @FluWorldOrder
    @FluWorldOrder Před 6 lety +7

    Did any ever notice that the Watchtower phrase "Faithful and Discreet Slave" was used in place of GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT?

  • @jimbobaggans1564
    @jimbobaggans1564 Před 6 lety +6

    I really don't think that they read a disassociation letter all the way through. They would need a lot of people doing only that. Even then, the amount of letters coming in, every day, would be staggering. I think they determine that it is a disassociation letter. Then jot down the name. Then, file the letter in the floor circular file can. They are not going to remember who sent what. There are probably just too many people sending them letters now days.

  • @bg-id1uo
    @bg-id1uo Před 7 lety +4

    Great job! Thnx for sharing this!

  • @rodrigocarino8179
    @rodrigocarino8179 Před 5 lety +5

    Wow...I just woke up 2 weeks ago and I found all these videos amazing. Where can I get copies of all the proofs? Thanks

  • @esthermarygold-lowe4403
    @esthermarygold-lowe4403 Před 6 lety +5

    damn. love it

  • @KameronFader
    @KameronFader Před 7 lety +12

    Wow, definitely a great DA letter. This needs more views...and I subbed.

  • @jdrum4371
    @jdrum4371 Před 6 lety +2

    Great Job!

  • @jlebrech
    @jlebrech Před 7 lety +13

    You're pretty, you're lucky to be away from those creepy old elders :D

  • @ronmiller4835
    @ronmiller4835 Před 7 lety +5

    Great Job Girl Keep up the Great Work

  • @sharonsheehy3128
    @sharonsheehy3128 Před 7 lety +2

    How wise you are,,,,, thankyou,,,,,,,

  • @RickyGonzales1978
    @RickyGonzales1978 Před 7 lety +3

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @johnfreeman8445
    @johnfreeman8445 Před 7 lety +2

    exelent letter

  • @ywnh5385
    @ywnh5385 Před 6 lety +5

    Why would anybody want to even bother to write a dissociation letter once I walk away that should be enough hello wake up Jehovah Witnesses I'm not with you anymore God I ordered them out of my house I never wrote a letter and I don't intend to I owe them nothing they thought I did they thought that I owed them about down and kiss their feet well it backfired

    • @julietrojas651
      @julietrojas651 Před 5 lety

      Same here,my actions speaks more than Letters.Let 4hem "Wait"until they expire.7 am not going back there what for?I could not get back all my losses anywaybut I have gained more realtruth and Genuine Joy through the Internet and Real Worshipper of God without the so called Religion.We will just keep on Liv7ng Freely l7ke the"SkylinePigeon"Freed at Last from it's Metal Cage Flying Freely onLine like Internt and Utube.Congrats to all Ex'sJw.

  • @exposingthewolves8711
    @exposingthewolves8711 Před 7 lety +3

    A great summing up of most of the issues the WT like to keep hidden from the rank and file !

  • @bill7778
    @bill7778 Před 7 lety +37

    Jesus never "shunned" anyone, instead he associated with the people "shunned" by the "religious leaders".

    • @misha-elministries5246
      @misha-elministries5246 Před 7 lety +1

      I think your confused. Jesus came to separate a people for himself. We absolutely are not to associate with any sinners except to give them the Word of God. Jesus did not come to bring peace but rather division and fire. Families will be torn apart because Jesus. Unless a man give up his mother father sisters brothers children wife he cannot be his disciple. In fact a man must give up all he has or he cannot be Jesus disciple.

    • @bill7778
      @bill7778 Před 7 lety +2

      Misha-el Ministries I am not confused, and you are making my point for me. JW's refuse to associate with people who really love Jesus.

    • @misha-elministries5246
      @misha-elministries5246 Před 7 lety

      Build your house the way you want as long as Jesus is the foundation. I myself did exactly what Jesus said. I gave up all as His Disciples did. For as Jesus said , unless a man give up everything he cannot be my disciple. Bless you.

    • @vinnyvincent53
      @vinnyvincent53 Před 7 lety +2

      Bill 777 .If Jesus ever went into a kingdom hall,what would he think and say. I wonder if he would be marked

    • @brianminghella3312
      @brianminghella3312 Před 6 lety

      Bill 777 .Yeah, thats because people with higher IQ never fell for his bullshit about being the son of god. Jesus was just building a following by sucking up to the mob. Just like every other religion.

  • @user-bx2cg2ec8c
    @user-bx2cg2ec8c Před 6 lety +2

    Great

  • @sreckosostar4299
    @sreckosostar4299 Před 7 lety +15

    1. To Society Watch Tower, Watchtower and corporations
    2. To Jehovah's Witnesses and all assemblies
    3. To all whom this concern
    Declaration on termination of membership to a religious community of Jehovah's Witnesses
    I was baptized in 1977 at the age of 17, then a minor. But, in good faith I answered the following two questions just before baptism, which is symbolized my dedication to God in terms of the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses religion.
    At that time (before the change of June 1 1985) questions have read as follows;
    A) Have you repented of your sins and converted, recognizing yourself before Jehovah God as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?
    B) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?
    Since I have over decades closely followed the changes in various aspects of activity of this religion, I noticed some frequent collisions (1 John 4:1; 1 Th 5:21). It is visible in: a) the content of the various interpretations; b) in the theory and practice of action in everyday life issues. Overview of many historical aspects of the spiritual heritage, which the organization has, since its inception in the 19th century, left to its members-followers, and wants to cover it up, revise and incorrect display, is astounding. Who wants to drink a water from a cup in which there is a single drop of dangerous substances?
    The purpose of my statement is not to explain doctrine and practices of society and the board of directors, who are disturbed my conscience and reasoning within the love, faith, knowledge and understanding that I feel and I have to God and Jesus Christ and to the people, so I will taxatively single out only a few of them (Rom 14:4). These are obvious example, on the one hand, theological acrobatics from the main church body of Jehovah's Witnesses, and on the other hand, their dishonesty and practice in which one they are learns, and other they are works;
    1) Confusing conceptions about their own identity (Who shared spiritual food? One servant, all 144 000, a composite body or the governing body ...,)
    2) Pragmatism in changing dogmatic interpretations before the change was "firmly biblical established", such as a series of explanations about the "generation" ...,
    3) Speculation about the meaning of biblical statements and how they should be understood. More than once the revised interpretation were in style of YES-NO-YES-NO; then this year's "changed approach to the interpretation of reports from the Word of God" ...,
    4) Switching of responsibility from the governing body and their representatives on the ordinary believers in respect of the decisions and attitudes that members should be carried out, when it becomes apparent that they were endangered spiritually, mentally and literally health of fellow believers (eg, multiple expectations of Armageddon, Malawi and Mexico of the 1970s, questions about blood, juvenile members / Bulgaria /, neutrality ...,)
    5) Co-operation and association with political organizations such as the UN and the OSCE.
    6) Increasingly open calls for financial donations and contributions to the funds of the corporation.
    7) Careless and unkind treatment of victims of pedophilia within the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses
    Regardless of how, as collective or personal, members of the Jehovah's Witnesses will treat me after this letter of resignation, considering the worldwide-known practice of ignoring and avoiding (shunning) that Jehovah's Witnesses apply to all who are outside of their religion ("worldly" people, dissociated and disfellowshiped) - I with fully conscious and reason declare still this; My relationship with the people / persons in the Jehovah's Witness religion and those who are not, is based on the words of Jesus; "Love your neighbor as yourself"; "Love those who hate you"; "Whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them."
    I expecting from you, that any kind of information which is stored anywhere, in connection with me and has my full name, such as personal files, or any other files you immediately destroy!
    Zagreb, July 27/2015 Srećko Šoštar -------------
    Verified by notary public

    • @mjp4111
      @mjp4111 Před 6 lety +2

      Srecko Sostar Do you know if they destroyed your files.
      I once sent the society an email regarding my pedophile ex husband. Never received an answer.

    • @GEC416
      @GEC416 Před 5 lety

      @@mjp4111 figures

  • @nimos1
    @nimos1 Před 7 lety +10

    While I respect your uncle's stand to disassociate himself and his family from the JW Organisation, didn't he realise when writing it that they would view it with total indifference? As a corporate entity, the WS couldn't care less about the views (or indeed the welfare) of the individual, only about protecting the Organisation itself. As far as expecting the WS to engage with him over the valid points he raised, he would do better talking to a brick wall. Please don't take this as criticism or a negative comment though as it must have taken a great deal of courage to challenge the WS in this way.

    • @JustJess44
      @JustJess44 Před 6 lety +3

      nimos1 hello, yes he was fully aware of their indifference. I believe it was more of a formality for him.. he was done, just wanted the paperwork to go with it lol.. thank you for your comment

  • @gabrielkoncowski9663
    @gabrielkoncowski9663 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for your video.and sharing the letter.you make sense to me.also very clear.im impressed with your beautiful family.excellent.well done lots of real love from england.im gabriel who has learned alot from all your videos. I'm shocked all that's happened. Thks

  • @kevinchamberlain7928
    @kevinchamberlain7928 Před 7 lety +4

    Is it possible to reconcile "Love thy neighbour" with shunning?

  • @katjavestergaard489
    @katjavestergaard489 Před 7 lety +4

    this was a great video girl! thumbs up 💟

  • @saraabraham5486
    @saraabraham5486 Před 7 lety +11

    warrior101010, you are sick. You cannot stop what is going on. God is judging Religion. "Nothing is more powerful than something whose time has come" The time to Expose Watchtower is here and you cannot stop it- only if you can fight The Most God. You hands are too short to fight God.

  • @discipulodelcristo1370
    @discipulodelcristo1370 Před 7 lety +8

    Excelente

  • @myjwstory9654
    @myjwstory9654 Před 7 lety +3

    Nice share!

  • @MegaMick56
    @MegaMick56 Před 6 lety +4

    Did they read out the letter or is that a stupid question. The cowards. Best wishes from ireland.

  • @DietSand
    @DietSand Před 7 lety +4

    Dangit Kat!! you passed me up now you have 200 Subs!! xD

  • @anayhiasmimi1409
    @anayhiasmimi1409 Před 4 lety +1

    They destroy families all across the world unrepairable damage. Great letter BTW.

  • @TheKoolbraider
    @TheKoolbraider Před 7 lety +5

    Oh, and a flame thrower!

  • @nickgcbond
    @nickgcbond Před 7 lety +6

    One 'hell' of a Letter by your Uncle if you pardon the pun! :)
    It just shows again their are wonderful JW's ( who eventually speak out and subsequently have to be exJW) from amongst the membership. Shunning is truly hideous and the child abuse secrecy we've all discovered recently is frightening too.

  • @anayhiasmimi1409
    @anayhiasmimi1409 Před 4 lety

    Ty for sharing!

  • @heatherwhite6371
    @heatherwhite6371 Před 7 lety +4

    You know what you can do just not go an put a note on door. No JW's welcome here.

  • @praying4you
    @praying4you Před 5 lety +1

    Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE," says the Lord. "AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; And I will welcome you. II COR 6:17-- WTO are all apostates according to the Word of GOD.
    this is just my personality, I would write " BYE" short and sweet.

  • @SunFlower-xb3gf
    @SunFlower-xb3gf Před 5 lety

    Celebrate your freedom and awakening by giving blood to save lives.

  • @user-fq7go1vc6l
    @user-fq7go1vc6l Před 3 měsíci +1

    By writing a letter the watchtower still has control over you. Just walk away!

  • @Happy_HIbiscus
    @Happy_HIbiscus Před 7 lety +2

    i have 2 roomates who are this cult, i will be totally happy when i no longer live with them

    • @brennanhuff8581
      @brennanhuff8581 Před 6 lety +1

      Not amused
      Are you roommates with them because you are in college or is it for some other reason?
      Just curious, because those two roommates of yours who are Witnesses should not really be sharing room & board with a non-believer based upon their religious beliefs. That's the only reason I'm asking.

  • @GEC416
    @GEC416 Před 5 lety +2

    first let me say u are very pretty ......but also I loved the letter he sent but was thinking maybe first have the ten points and then the DA part so they would read that first. but to me that they have stocks in such awful things like war implements and porn etc. should be enough to give all JW's pause....

  • @cocoxy306
    @cocoxy306 Před 5 lety

    just read and explain later

  • @kimyongcheng6551
    @kimyongcheng6551 Před 3 lety

    Hope the world will see and get out from this false teachings religion.
    Amen

  • @mnicoya1983
    @mnicoya1983 Před 7 lety +2

    you are cute and I am interested to know you better.

  • @muffarroony
    @muffarroony Před 7 lety +1

    ... ✅ ....

  • @isaiah30v8
    @isaiah30v8 Před 5 lety +1

    Your Uncle is absolutely correct!
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    They have replaced God with something else. That is THE Apostasy mentioned in 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2.
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    The word Apostasy simply means; "the abandonment of a previously held belief".
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    Consider this:
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    w55 7/1 p. 411 Christian Baptism for the New World Society
    A Christian, therefore, cannot be baptized in the name of the one actually doing the immersing or in the name of any man, nor in the name of any organization, but in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit.
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    nor in the name of any organization
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    That is THE previously held belief! So how did they abandon that belief?
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    Now consider this:
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    Matthew 28:18-20
    And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and ** GODS SPIRIT DIRECTED ORGANIZATION ** 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I AM WITH YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
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    Do you see how they now have an entirely new belief and have abandoned what they previously believed?
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    Anyone who has the audacity to re-invent Jesus Christs commanded baptism MUST BELIEVE they are better than him!
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    Do you see how they have replaced GOD with something else? In fact do you now see how they must think that they are also gods?
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    2 Thessalonians 2:4
    He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god.
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    They are indeed Babylon The Great. ................. now consider this:
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    Revelation 18:4
    And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her ** MY PEOPLE ** if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues.
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    Romans 9:25-26
    It is as he says also in Ho·se´a: “Those not my people I will call ** MY PEOPLE ** and her who was not beloved ‘beloved’; 26 and in the place where it was said to them, ‘YOU are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
    ..
    [Name of person] is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses ---> ‘YOU are not my people,’
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    Please share this with your Uncle and anyone else who will listen.
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    Go ahead and ask me questions
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  • @johntingle455
    @johntingle455 Před 7 lety +2

    Jesus had disciples that disassocoated themselves from walking with him, when they could not understand a spiritual teaching. Jesus had his Judas, also, who betrayed him.
    Which true followers of Jesus would care to listen the lame excuses of Judas or those other followers who turned their backs on Jesus. None that I am aware of....how ca

  • @johntingle455
    @johntingle455 Před 7 lety +2

    John 6:66 is where many of Jesus disciples turned their back on him and would no longer walk with him. I'm not interested in sitting around listening to those defectors justify why they stopped walking with Jesus....nor would i care to listen to Judas justify his betrayal of Jesus. Nor can i imagine being intrested in listening to Satan and the Demons excuses as to why they rebelled against God. surely all of them want approval for their actions....but they will not recieve such approval from loyal servants of God. nor will they be able to justify their actions to God and his Son.

    • @gilbertogonzales5015
      @gilbertogonzales5015 Před 7 lety +2

      John Tingle your comment sounds interesting, yet we can't seem to understand one point you may have overlooked. If you have the fear and loyalty of the Almighty, and the love of his Son, confused with obeying and sacrificing for an man made organization. Even if it stands in opposition against the God, the Christ , and the Holy Scriptures?

  • @bobbywong6807
    @bobbywong6807 Před 7 lety +6

    Shunning is a way of keeping the organization away from bad influences. The same way you would want your kids not to hang around with the wrong crowd of people because of negative influences. If you had a child and you believed that watching violent TV content was unacceptable for a child but another parent thought it was ok so they allow their child to watch it. Would you want your child to associate with that other child that has been told it's ok to watch violent TV content??

    • @JustJess44
      @JustJess44 Před 7 lety +4

      Bobby Wong if having an opinion other than the governing body's and exposing what they are really up to, including hiding pedophiles by not turning them into authorities and disfellowshiping those who go against the elders and turn them in is bad association then all you need to do is not hang out with them if you don't want to. Jesus NEVER said to shun anyone or pretend they're dead to get them to come back to the org. it's blackmail, holding peoples family for ransom. Jesus taught kindness and love and standing up for the truth, and the truth is that the watchtower organization is up to no good behind the scenes. I was one up until 6 months ago after much research in our own literature, including the Shepard the flock book and the policies are NOT bible based..i hope you research and figure out the truth for yourself and realize there is NOT one True religion like we've been brought up to believe and there are a lot of great loving people outside the org who follow Jesus, not 7 men who admitingly are not inspired in the Feb study article.

    • @DietSand
      @DietSand Před 7 lety +5

      Are you a JW? if so, why are you watching "Apostate" videos anyways?

    • @lockedinthetower2488
      @lockedinthetower2488  Před 7 lety +10

      That's a really good illustration Bobby! I would not want my child to associate with someone who was engaging in some behavior I did not approve of. However, I would NEVER encourage my child to shun someone, to treat them as if they were dead! Think about Jesus example. Whenever someone was doing something wrong, what did he do? He sought them out! He went to their houses! He ate with them! He NEVER turned ANYONE away. He wanted to help people, in whatever way he could. That is what I want my child to learn. To help others the way Jesus did, to never turn their back on someone who needs help. My child will be able to grow up with out the disgusting influence of this cult and will be a normal human being.

    • @say6hows7
      @say6hows7 Před 7 lety +10

      The problem is that people are not disfellowshipped just for doing things that the Bible says are wrong. People are disfellowshipped and lose their families simply for questioning the teachings of the leaders of the organization. At the meetings they always tell us how we are supposed to make the truth our own and examine the Scriptures to make sure that what we're learning is true. However at the same time they threaten us with loss of our friends and family if we dare question anything that they teach. That makes it impossible for anyone to do an honest examination of the material because they know that if they find anything that isn't biblical they will lose their families if they speak up about it. So you are correct in some sense the organization is trying to remove influences. However the influences that they are trying to remove are not necessarily bad they are trying to remove anyone who questions their teachings or who cannot conscientiously continue to teach things they do not believe or support an organization that they do not agree with. What's worse is that many JW's are baptized at a very young age and by the time they reach an age where they can do an honest examination of the evidence it's already too late and they are already trapped in the organization and their family is used as leverage against them to emotionally blackmail them into remaining part of the organization. Shunning is a way of keeping people afraid to question and afraid of doing honest research.

    • @rugone1816
      @rugone1816 Před 7 lety +12

      Bobby Wong WRONG!! Shunning is away to keep the Governing Body in power. I would venture to say no one in this family committed a gross sin. Your illustration is pure idiotic nonsense no correlation at all.