Fractional Pedaling - What Does It Mean & How Do I Utilize It For Special Effects In My Performance?

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  • @ayyboi4298
    @ayyboi4298 Pƙed 3 lety +16

    For fellow pianist your type of videos and teachings really help one another!

  • @mabdub
    @mabdub Pƙed 3 lety +10

    The mechanical aspect of pedal connections on acoustic upright pianos is different than on grand pianos so fractional or flutter pedaling on some upright pianos isn't always possible. Flutter pedaling using electric keyboards is also often not possible. Of course, there are exceptions for both acoustic uprights and electric or digital pianos. Clearly, the advantages of having a grand piano to practice on and experiment with are significant.

  • @PianoMan333
    @PianoMan333 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    I really like that you're often covering these small, detailed "niche" topics. Thanks for that!

  • @melodytsai7133
    @melodytsai7133 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    Thanks for all your useful tips.I really like this topic and I hope you can do another record that we can see clearly.
    What I mean is to set the different camera view to see how "Pedal " and "Damper " lift works together. And how these effect the sound.
    Thanks for your wonderful heart to share.

  • @kcuehto
    @kcuehto Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Your videos are all great, but what I am really hoping for is to see you on "Living the Classical Life", since you have said you are friends with Zsolt Bognar. I would love to learn more of you as a person.

  • @sasoonhaikazian4093
    @sasoonhaikazian4093 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    I actually just discovered this two days ago when I was practicing on my own piano but great vid!

  • @tenonakin9237
    @tenonakin9237 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    I use Formula One racing shoes for piano-pedaling.

  • @jakobwk4474
    @jakobwk4474 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    The ball of the foot, in other words: the area just behind the toes.Organists are taught to use the ball of the foot.

  • @Bronwyn031
    @Bronwyn031 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Of the last 5 or 6 videos I've tried to watch on Half Pedaling YOU are the only one who explained it QUICK, CONCISE and with examples. 🩄💖 And I subscribed too 😊

  • @rrickymaa
    @rrickymaa Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Oh love sorrow!! I always wanted you to play this piece with your immaculate technique! I’d love I hear it !

  • @lastdreamofhome
    @lastdreamofhome Pƙed 3 lety +6

    This is really useful - I was trying out Ravel's Ondine for the first time today so it was a surprise when you used it as the example! Really enjoying your videos! :)

  • @paytonspiegel
    @paytonspiegel Pƙed 3 lety +8

    Can't wait for that liebesleid. You said it was this summer your gonna be playing that?

  • @aquilazyy1125
    @aquilazyy1125 Pƙed 3 lety

    As an amateur pianist I stumbled upon this technique and it really created some wonderful effects, but I always have thought it’s just a unorthodox trick that shouldn’t be used until I see this video. Thank you!

  • @kowalskianalysis1710
    @kowalskianalysis1710 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Very helpful! Just finished learning Debussy's arabesque and there is a section in the middle and a different one at the end that I struggle to keep between muddy and staccato. I will try this technique

  • @Jules-ce3hs
    @Jules-ce3hs Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Hello Josh, thanks for this video. It would be interesting to have a video on the soft pedal!!

  • @bourdour
    @bourdour Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Thank you for sharing. Im working on scalic passages in Chopin's Ballade 1 and this is helpful

  • @carmenl9280
    @carmenl9280 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Thanks Josh. This is really helpful. Some pianists consider pedaling a minor detail, but it can really ruin a piece if it is not used correctly. It would be great if you could provide some guidance about how to use pedal in Mozart, or Bach.

  • @lvb1770
    @lvb1770 Pƙed 2 lety

    Fractional pedaling in Chopin's Op.10 No.1 etude changed everything for me. Flutter pedaling is also useful. As Vlado said, "Pedal with your ears not your feet. He studied with Ravel.

  • @magicalmysterypiano8144
    @magicalmysterypiano8144 Pƙed 3 lety

    I have never thought over how I use the pedal, I do it automatically...but after this video I will pay more attention to how I do it. Pedaling is actually is a rather important element in piano playing, it can make the playing beautiful or to spoil it. Was very useful, Thank you, Josh!

  • @shotglassanhero
    @shotglassanhero Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Great video, I never knew of this concept and was taught that I should always use full pedal when playing. Maybe I haven’t played a piece with fractional pedaling yet...

  • @cyba9774
    @cyba9774 Pƙed rokem

    This is really helpful. I need to improve my pedaling

  • @MF-hf2re
    @MF-hf2re Pƙed 3 lety +1

    That's a gorgeous thumbnail and an even better video! Very helpful as always

  • @petermcmurray2807
    @petermcmurray2807 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    An Excellent description. I only heard of half pedalling this week and can see now how it can help in my broken chord and arpeggio practice. Thank you

  • @peterthomas3405
    @peterthomas3405 Pƙed 3 lety

    What an excellent demonstration and plainly spoken explanation of a subject many would shroud in mystery. Thank you, Josh!

  • @frazzledude
    @frazzledude Pƙed 3 lety +1

    It should be pointed out that fractional pedaling only works if the felt in the piano’s dampers is not packed down and hard. Many serious piano owners will have their technician tune their piano, regulate the action, and voice the hammers but not do anything to the hard packed dampers. You should also mention that by using the sostenuto pedal in combination with the damper pedal it is possible to get two different gradations of sustain at the same time. By using both pedals at the same time it is possible to get some very interesting effects on a piano.

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing =O

  • @TheNetzspannung
    @TheNetzspannung Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    Clear, concise and well-meaning. Excellent explanation.

  • @zachsaw78
    @zachsaw78 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Wow! Didn't even know this is a thing! As always, you're an amazing teacher!

  • @ThePianoPutterer
    @ThePianoPutterer Pƙed 3 lety

    Very interesting concept I've never heard verbalized before. You helped me realize it's something I've always done instinctually. Thank you!

  • @anoNEMOs
    @anoNEMOs Pƙed 3 lety +1

    I've been using this at the end of one piece and didn't even know it has a name.
    And what is more interesting, I do it on an electric piano (clavinova)

  • @allmyinterests5139
    @allmyinterests5139 Pƙed 3 lety

    I just want you to know: Thank you so much for everything!

  • @cggage
    @cggage Pƙed rokem

    Very helpful! I had always wondered what was meant by this. You explained it very well!

  • @kathysaleeba3397
    @kathysaleeba3397 Pƙed 3 lety

    Thank you. New piano student. I was wondering about fractional pedaling vs. full pest. I'm not quite ready for a lot of pedal use yet but it does answer my question. Enjoy your videos.

  • @katam6471
    @katam6471 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    This was really helpful. Thanks a lot!

  • @eddygonzalez2328
    @eddygonzalez2328 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

    I would like to say that wearing shoes when using the pedal doesn't affect much what part of the foot you use. I'm always wearing shoes and it really doesn't matter what I'm doing with my toes.😂. Joke aside, I never press the pedal all the way down, more like half pedals and I tend to slightly press the una corda at the same time.I find that it gives me a clean sound without those overtones.

  • @MaxRiley
    @MaxRiley Pƙed 3 lety

    thank you Josh. you remind me of the actor in "Novecento"

  • @BabyMeows
    @BabyMeows Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the great video! I hope the camera is pointed to your foot instead.

  • @downpatmusic
    @downpatmusic Pƙed 2 lety

    I think it was Debussy who said the magic is in the pedal. Or another way to think about it, the reverb amount is controlling the pedal.

  • @pedrohenricograzziotinport8217

    Great video!! You're amazing Josh

  • @rachelstarritt481
    @rachelstarritt481 Pƙed rokem

    I’m interested to hear any thoughts from pianists 
 do you think of the sustain pedal as an expression pedal as well in which you press it down to certain levels to get different harmonic resonances and layerings? Leon Fleischer apparently said you can get 24 different tonal shadings from the sustain pedal-I was amazed!!!

  • @audybee9610
    @audybee9610 Pƙed 2 lety

    Would have loved to see your foot on the pedal. I understand. It's about hearing the sounds produced.

  • @cisium1184
    @cisium1184 Pƙed 2 lety

    Half-pedal is a bit like the tension point on a clutch pedal.

  • @tpiano1165
    @tpiano1165 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    And some people say piano is all about the fingers...

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX Pƙed 3 lety

      No. I personally thinks the hardest part of the piano aren't hands together, jumping octaves/notes, polyrhythms, poly-phrasing but pedaling...
      I really suck in the pedaling >.

  • @7HPDH
    @7HPDH Pƙed 3 lety

    I’d recommend putting something about an inch high under the pedal so you’ll have an easier time finding the sweet spot (for learning purposes)

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX Pƙed 3 lety

      But how? Like putting an inch cushion?

    • @7HPDH
      @7HPDH Pƙed 3 lety

      @@JoanKSX a small hardcover book could work. I have an external hard drive that happens to be the right size

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX Pƙed 3 lety

      @@7HPDH Oh, thank you! =D

  • @LASoundCrafter
    @LASoundCrafter Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Many pianos can’t do it, or elicit some ugly overtones - your excellent Steinway D was OK, your technician probably helped shape and seated the dampers. I use it in, your example, Ravel’s Gaspard de la nuit, but I used it in the Toccata in Le Tombeau de Couperin - the piece is percussive, but too dry with no pedal on all those repeated notes and too heavy with full pedal. Ravel and Debussy are filled with half pedal.

    • @JoanKSX
      @JoanKSX Pƙed 3 lety

      Wow thanks for sharing the info =O

  • @RaptorT1V
    @RaptorT1V Pƙed rokem

    5:33 what is the name of piece? What was the name of the piece you played? â™Ș I didn't hear it â™Ș

  • @rrickymaa
    @rrickymaa Pƙed 3 lety

    Video was great of course but when I’m in my phone the audio of the keys it sounds like it’s like distorted or feels like it’s too loud like it’s too close to the mic

  • @crehenge2386
    @crehenge2386 Pƙed 2 lety

    what about the other 2pedals?

  • @JoanKSX
    @JoanKSX Pƙed 3 lety

    0:52 - 0:58 I don't hear anything, the noise made by only toe pressing pedal...

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 Pƙed 3 lety

    Ah! The grand, I have access to, is SQUEAKY and noisy... perhaps because of my abrupt "toe-handling" Lets see, if I can do it less squeaky-noisy now.

  • @ollyhudson9931
    @ollyhudson9931 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    Hi there Josh, which composer do you mention & what piece are you playing @ 2:56 please? PleasespleaseithankyouiloveyoubyeđŸ˜đŸŽ¶âœŒïž

  • @rogerharrison8195
    @rogerharrison8195 Pƙed 3 lety

    Hi, I haven’t found any advice on how to keep my arms, hands, and ELBOWS completely parallel or at least in line. But I find this impossible as my hands come within closer to my body. Somehow my elbow needs pulling in. I end up splaying my wrists to get the notes for my fingers to be properly in the keys. Any advice

  • @manueladevilliers5301
    @manueladevilliers5301 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    😁

  • @providief
    @providief Pƙed 3 lety +1

    do you play in socks for the concert?

  • @PianoforPleasure
    @PianoforPleasure Pƙed 3 lety

    Great tips here Josh - I'm still trying to use pedal in the right way - I always feel that I 'overdo' it..
    Does anyone use the middle pedal? I'm still perplexed what it's there for..

    • @magicalmysterypiano8144
      @magicalmysterypiano8144 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Me as well, I don't know when the middle is used. The left pedal is used mostly in the "Moonshine Sonata" to make it sound more gently

    • @PianoforPleasure
      @PianoforPleasure Pƙed 3 lety

      @@magicalmysterypiano8144 yes, I use the left one sometimes too to make the sound softer..

    • @emelialeng1583
      @emelialeng1583 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Middle pedal is the mute pedal- you’ll notice the sound gets kind of muffled. I’ve only found it used in some more modern jazz pieces so far, but I find it effective for practising loud passages of a piece with a metronome so I can still hear it. Hope that helps

    • @PianoforPleasure
      @PianoforPleasure Pƙed 3 lety

      @@emelialeng1583 Thank you, this is helpful!

    • @magicalmysterypiano8144
      @magicalmysterypiano8144 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@emelialeng1583 Oh...very useful information, thank you Emelia!