You won't believe this! Why's oil look like MILK!!!
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- You won't believe this! Why's oil look like MILK!!! Come along today on the farm as we work on Earl..our old massey ferguson 65 tractor. We'll do some wrenching on this old girl and get her ready to work! Link to Bucket Pump: amzn.to/2R58nPu Hand Bucket pump: amzn.to/34t0q9R
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Probably need to run this next change for 5 to 10 hours and drop it again and replace with fresh oil.
Good point...and let it sit for several days before I change it...95 % of the milk is out...and to be honest if you're not running the machine too hard it will be fine....but you are right for sure....get it out!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer yep, and that new fluid will be able to absorb what milky fluid was left. Many guys will use that $20 a bucket fluid from TSC for flush fluid.
could you run an oil cleaner / flush fluid thru it, like an engine oil flush ?
@@Shane_O.5158 no need too. Anything bin that old oil won't do anything more.
What your tying to clean out is just the residual fluid that sticks to the gears, sides of the sump and what doesn't come out of the pump and lines to the front of the tractor. Like we were saying the left over amount in this tractor is negligible in the 8 gallons it holds. Hydraulic fluid can soak it up and dilute it fine. This one was really not that bad. They can be way worse. But I'm picky about my stuff I would flush it probably if it was me with clean fluid then replace
@@fhuber7507 yea that works if there is minimal amounts and your vents work well
My hydraulic fluid is alway like that! thought it was weird but normal! I’m so glad I came across this old vid. Just ordered new boots and plan to replace the fluid!
also...hang a bucket over your shifters...that helps too!
FYI:: Keyway is the groove, the key is the piece you can remove. The rounded style key is a woodruff key.
Thank you for clearing that up. I was going to say something but since you did there's no reason to say it twice.
Probably should support that exhaust pipe below the cherry bomb before it breaks again.
Hey Josh,
For future reference, that's a woodruff key.
thanks buddy!
Just FYI, those half-moon keys are known as Woodruff Keys.
Josh,
Years ago on the farm I had old M.F.65 diesel.
When you change your hydraulic oil you should also change the filter. And I know your tractor is gas but regardless the units are the same; only the engines are different. You pull the PTO shifter cover assembly and down in the belly there is a filter that is accessible thru the PTO shifter hole.
Yeah anytime that fluid or oil is milky it’s got moisture or water in it. In fact now that you’ve changed it and replaced those boots. I would run it a few hours and change it again. That will be a nice tractor when you get done. I’ve run several of those. Good video Josh. 👍👍👍❤️
On some tractors the fill plug has a gasket o ring. These can also leak water in. Replace those too👍
I got water in it usually through the shifter
Such a cool old tractor, glad you are taking the time to go thru it and make it a good runner
Good job on changing the transmission shifter boots,
I have replaced the ones on my 1957 TO35 Ferguson,
I have also replaced the steering wheel on my tractor, I had a much harder time getting the old steering wheel off,
I insured the steering wheel spindle was coated with anti-seize when I installed the new steering wheel in case I ever had to remove it again,
Take care, enjoy watching your videos,
WOOOOOOO!
SRF Word of the day is "Woodruff".
Today, Josh found out his old Massey-Ferguson tractor has a Woodruff key on the steering shaft.
As did most of us 😹
Oil looks like milk, when it gets contaminated with moisture/water
Always fun working on the tractor.
thanks for the simple but needed maint. information. great videos and farm. love it. good job.
I had to use a cut off wheel to get the steering wheel off my 1958 massy 65 it was so rusted on
Another boot to change out is the one on the safety switch behind the steering column
Also the rubber boot on the draft sencing spring on lift top cover.
Enjoyed watching !
Have a great day !
That is a beautiful tractor! And an awesome video
Greetings! Late to party. I got rid of some that looked just like that. I need a new steering wheel too, but will probably just limp along wearing gloves to steer. 😀
Hi..... 👍👍👍
Enjoying the videos bud, keep em up! Hope all is well.
😂😂 I just did the wheel axel fluid on the new holland! It was GREEN SLUDGE! definitely overdue!
Your key is called a "Woodruff key".
great video, thanks for sharing
skid loader has milky hydraulic look up mechanic in a bottle made by B3c. Dont throw the milk out yet, the stuff takes a bit to start working . But yes replace the boot.
also sold by tsc
Good information thanks for sharing. 😘😘❤❤❤👍👍
Good advice to keep your tractors inside out of the weather elements. ..Something that hardly anyone talks about is the bees making a nest inside your tractor normally the inside of hood area and most of the time in the steering box area....If you spend the time checking your oil battery connection filling with gas, check tires and kick them , grease your fittings in this time spent around your tractor you just might see the bees flying in and out of your tractor hood area warning you you have a problem... I drove around all summer long and never knew why I got stung by a bee from time to time I would see bees flying around me but never thought They were from the tractor LOL One day but at the end of the year I was changing some equipment and sitting there with the tractor running and me in the seat the fumes upset the bees under the steering column and between my legs turned black with bees....I had to stand up putting my whole body in the swarm of bees. To my shock I jumped to the ground and never got a single sting ..I found a big massive nest around the steering box
You are Awesome Brother Josh I love how you show how to videos
It is likely there is a vent somewhere on the tractor that will allow air in and out. That will also contribute to oil contamination. Your video speaks volumes about regular maintenance.
Vent is under seat on top cover for lift
Oof, we bought a used MF 5150, had milky-colored oil in its engine, cracked engineblock, cooler-fluid had mixed with the engine oil. Tractor was scrapped... Thankfully we lost no money.
Edit: Love your vids! Always learn something from these sort of vids and love to follow your Farms growth.
One thing I learned about 18 years ago is a product called Seafoam. They make a product for the GAS/Diesel, Transmission and Hydraulics. For the Transmission/Hydraulics you pour it in and run it for 15 minutes. I like to run it for 30-60 minutes. What it does is it makes a barrier between the metal and your fluids. Then you can drain all the oil out and put in fresh. Works great.
My old tractor is a 414. IH. And the water gets in around the bolts on the top casing on the transmission
Totally learned something new or restabliblish what was put on back part of mind
Key is called a "Woodruff" key
Another job done right by the Stoney Ridge Farmer.. 👍
I'd put a zip tie or a hose clamp on top of that gearshift boot as an extra measure.
grease is rubbers worst enemy
Josh, the keyway is where the key slides in. Think of a lock where the key goes in the cylinder. The cylinder is the keyway for the door key. The type of key that your tractor uses is called a woodruff key.
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Have a good weekend 🌷🌷🌷
I believe you are supposed to pack the shifter lever with grease and then put the rubber cover on, just putting all the grease on the inside of the rubber cover doesn’t do much. Same with CV gaiters on vehicles
You will also will get water through the rear top link boot. It probably needs changed too.
I’ve not seen a woodruff key before, interesting. I guess it’s used where it’s possible to pull the pulley/wheel off, where a normal key would just slide out
Water got in the hydraulic
Good stuff buddy
🚜-Woooo!!
Josh
1st thought
More Cow Bell !
Nicely done son!
Best David
Thanks, I think you're the first person on CZcams to show the proper steps to installing the shift lever boots.
Glad to help
I called it in the last Earl video
Air/moisture in the lines causes the milky look.
oh my tractor *international 785xl has the same water cooled oil just waiting on the weather to brighten up before i pull th ehead off.
moisture in hydraulics
Water in the hydraulic line
If your milk looks like that it’s time for the cow to go see the vet.
White colored oil is water in oil. Simple. Without question.
So many old tractors died because of lack of maintenance. Many people thought that hyd oil is a permanent fluid. They make a flushing oil to run through air. Probably should have run some diesel fuel in the engine to flush the sludge out. Was there a filter to change in the hydraulic system
That key way is called a Woodruff key
Is hydraulic fluid the same as gearbox oil in the US? Isn't that gearbox oil you changed? Loved this video - just the right amount of corporate sponsor stuff / indoors mechanic work / outside farmy stuff. I liked it and so did the wife - result. Clicked 'Thumbs up' as usual.
That type a keyway is called a Woodruff key and you should use a steering wheel puller
Spent a lot of time on a model 65 Ferguson Diesel. Would love to have one again.
Water mixed in the oil
Good thing you were able to catch it before damage occurred, maintenance and daily checks are pretty easy to get looked past on older equipment especially if it dosent get used often. Can never have too many tractors around!
It’s got water in it. Flush with diesel then refill with new oil.
Great video on chan ging that steering wheel. That can be a very frustrating job and many people will destroy the wheel getting it off even when they plan on reusing the steering wheel. Just one negative comment, and it's on your nomenclature. The thing you're calling a "keyway" is actually a Woodruff key. The keyway is actually the groove the key is placed in. The keyway holds the key, be it a square key, tapered key or Woodruff key.
Having an old 1962 Massey I very much appreciate you keeping Earl in shape and taking good care of him.
Do you keep it stored under cover? If so, wonder how water got in there.
Question 1. Water in the oil. Five points? I don't get the other five points. I didn't know how the water was getting in.
Josh, years ago I read a funny one about a guy that wouldn't take a shower. He said my name's Earl, and Earl and water don't mix.
Well Josh, it seems in your case that Earl and water did mix...
I have an old massey ferguson tractor.... doesn't it use hydrolic fluid? I was told to put regular motor or in it instead of hydrolic oil
check your owners manual.....you can find a manual online nowadays that will tell ya...or hit up NAPA...they know!
did you change the oil in the air filter or does it have the wet filter
Did the pump come with the battery or do you have to purchase it separately?
Hi I'm having a problem with my tractor steering end linkage
If have water in it
Josh, we already Knew there was a Loose Nut behind the wheel! 🤣
one cause oforHyd fluid becoming milky due to condensation due to high humidity and cool temps and not running it long enough to heat the fluid up to cause it to evaporate it
Grease on rubber? Without laminated phenolic resin? Doesn’t that deteriorate the rubber faster?
It can.
Yeh, grease goes on the lever, not the gaiter. That’s only there to keep the grease dry and dust free. But he’s doing this for CZcams, it’s impossible to be perfect on everything 😬
That tractor ever been in a flood? That much water usually comes from being submerged in water, like flood damage at one time.
We used to put buckets over the shifters
water on oil
Water is in the oil
its water in the fluid
Nice. Just bought 2 for my Ford 3000. 👍
I need to do the same on my 3000, although since I changed it, I have kept it inside so it might still be fine.
Water in it.
condensation or cross contamination ? water in oil.
water in the fluid
Water
Good idea with the grease in the shift boot, didn't really think of doing that
I suspect water in the mix.
I would have flushed the water out with some fresh transmission fluid before I put the drain plug back in.
with what?
How is the jeep coming along?
its tucked back there in a corner for now...until I get the bigger shop done
There H20 in there
Where dod you source your old trackter parts at.
amazon
MILKY Oil is when water con terminated the system.
Water in oil = milkshake
Water condensation will cause oil to become milky. Doesn't take much. Eight gallons? Not 8 quarts?
8 gallons is about right.
My old Ford takes 5.5 gallons.
$120? And you did the work yourself, geeeeze how much to have a shop do it?
shifter seals are leaking water into the transmission
Hydraulic fluid got water in it from somewhere
Does anyone have links to where a trustworthy source for buying more fluid, and the type? I've heard mineral oil, I've heard GL1 - 90W, I've heard a lot of things. Help?
NAPA is your best resource
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Would GL1 be better than Mineral Oil for a MF 65???
Shifter boots dry rotted?
You have gotten water in the hydraulics