Every Station Name Change on the District & Hammersmith & City Lines
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Ta Jago.
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...and the rest of the video was pretty good too. :D
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Ah, so that's how Sherlock survived his tumble from the Reichenbach Falls! He was actually back in London; he was just using a Swiss IP and ordered up an Amazon drone to push Moriarty off the ledge! Or something like that.
One of the best add reads I've come across.
Yep, normally fast forward ads but I actually look forward to Jogo's !
Yeah, that one was up there with Map Men's ads.
Ad, not add.
Only Jago can make a video on the name changes that doesn't seem as long as the 10:05 it actually is.
Love the way it end's 'Good evening' even though it's posted at 8.30am on a Sunday :)
6pm here, came as a surprise :)
Not everyone watches CZcams 'live'.
3:55 Pure Barberism. Respect - Cutting edge humour there.
Shear barbarism would work too.
@@caturdaynite7217 Comb-man the Barberian
I like a man who knows his apostrophes!
If a London Overground one was produced, then Shadwell would be a fun station to talk about its name changes. While it opened with the East London Railway as "Shadwell", it was renamed to "Shadwell and St Georges in the East" in 1900. This mouthful of a suffix was dropped just after WW1
"Shadwell"? Anny connection to the famous witchhunter sergeant?
Shadwell St Georges would have been pretty neat
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Putney Bridge will always be a special place. My husband was being treated for cancer at the Royal Marsden, and we stayed at the Putney Premier Inn just down the road. He didn't make it, but that weekend was one of the last times we had an actual holiday together -- he got the treatment on the Thursday, and then we stayed until Saturday when a friend came to see us for breakfast around the corner. Then we went to an old fashioned secondhand bookshop round the other corner and stripped the shelves of anything relevant. (We never did get to the book mecca of Hay on Wye :-/.)
He's gone, but he left a heavy footprint all over the place. Thanks for your lovely videos :).
I hope Surfshark compensates you generously for the ads. That was a very well done, and very British, ad read!
Don’t you have a real job?
I love how your videos make me feel connected to the world. Seeing stations from somebody else's perspective and how they fit into the local area is so wonderful.
Acton Town being called Mill Hill Park would have been really confusing for people expecting to find it somewhere between Edgware and Chipping Barnet. Especially with Edgware Road on the same line.
There used to be a pub about 100yds from the station called the Mill Hill Tavern, which was, coincidentally, on Mill Hill road.
I’m not sure I ever heard of a Mill Hill Park in that area. Perhaps it was swallowed up in the South Acton council estate development?!?!?
@@cossie6824 Mill Hill Park still exists north of South Acton and has a residents association website. They claim to be an early garden suburb.
Earls, Earl's, or Earls' - no-one makes such minutiae as interesting as you do! I have little interest in stations changing their names, but I stay for these tid-bits of information. Many thanks!🙂
Perhaps the Whitechapel and Mile End was to ensure the distinction from Whitechapel St Mary, which was just up the road next to the where the East London Mosque is now?
I say Holmes, what's that large bush with those yellow fruit on it?
It's a lemon tree my dear Watson.
Groan 😃
"Holmes, what's in the style of a California town?"
"A La Monterey" my dear Watson
Holmes, what's the name of the digestive tract that runs through one's body?
My dear Watson, you should know that, you're a doctor.
7:24 'everything east of here is also on the Circle Line.' Tut. tut.
I think Earl's Court should be spelled with the apostrophe to the left, since there would be only one Earl holding the peerage at one time
Could it be that the signmakers encouraged all the changes of name? After all, if the names never changed it would lead to unemployment and no doubt destitution.
The writing would indeed be, on the wall!
Maybe not. Have a look at 06:40 and, if that sign is old enough, they just needed to swap two panels around.😁
Worthy of a letter to Viz!
Fab, as usual, though I have to confess I did skip the advert at the start - only because I'm always so keen to hear you talk about the tube in London, not the tube on our computers. Also very much liked "I could've got a real job"
I love your videos Jago! Your wit is unsurpassed as well. They are so informative and educational. Thank-you so much.
I used to live half a mile from Bromley-by Bow station during the early 1960s, in a block of old style flats called Huntshaw House (at No 4) with my grandparents. I was only there until I was 4 (oddly enough) when my parents Got a Pre-Fab in a Place called Stoneyard Lane (No 1) just off the East India Dock Road. Nice to hear the old BbB station mentioned, And does it (Or Huntshaw House) still exist? Great Video as Usual, Jago. Thanks.
Jago, you skipped over the controversial Parsons Green apostrophe question. We’d all like to know: was there a parson who owned a Green? Or was the area infested with parsons who shared the surname Green?
Dont forget Nicholas Parsons , so the name may come from the Parsons family
I thought it was from a discarded parsons nose
Regarding apostrophes in place names - there are some who say they shouldn't be used, and you will indeed see may road signs and place name signs where they are omitted. I think this 'rule' applies to other puctuation marks in placenames too (Except maybe Westward Ho!)
It may surprise many to find Westward Ho! preceded hip-hop music by centuries.
In my work, we are advised only to use them in road names where their absence would change pronunciation. For example St Jamess rather than St James's suggests to me a woman in charge of preserves!
And Saint-Louis-du-Ha! Ha!, Quebec. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Louis-du-Ha!_Ha!
You could of mentioned another name change for Bromley-by-Bow is on the Underground maps for Eastenders. Since Walford East is placed where Bromley-by-Bow is on the map.
The solution to world hunger is to ask me to cook enough spaghetti for two people.
Great stuff thanks -- Wow, I would love a video on your DIT process...
Do you label all your video files because this video looks like an amazing jumping around all of your rushes...
I can't find something I shot yesterday, let alone all the arty shots you have.
DIT?
@@andrewgwilliam4831 Thanks for asking -- its an obscure TV/movie making department that's only quite recent: The DIT is the person who changes memory cards on the cameras and backs them up instantly...
Digital Imaging Technician or Digital Imaging Technology for the process...
@@neilmossey Ah! I have learnt something today. 😀
This is the only channel where I look forward to the ad 😂😂
That's cool Jago. I bought a copy of the 2016 edition, of, "The London Underground - a digrammatic history", which is a map of the London Underground, with all the dates of name changes, opening, and, closing of stations. That way when you do these videos, I can follow them on a harry beck style map! 😊👍
Good stuff old boy!😊
I would love an app were you had a slider so you could go back and forward in time and see how all the Underground lines came (and went) and the name changes.
We might also theorise that as communities - even districts - were formed and grew, the name of a new development might have an influence on the name or what area was be expanded from or associated with. Thus persons living in those districts might want "their" station to reflect where they now live. "I live in Kensington you know..." & "The names Kensington, West Kensington"
Well I don't know so many name changes , great advertising story jago ! Well done , makes it almost entertaining !
Is Earl's Court the only station with its original train indicator signs, or are the others still in use?
Gloucester Road still has them.
'You know I could of got a real job' . I proper spat my tea out laughing.
I don't know if this one counts, but in 1926 Gale Street Halt was opened by the LMS. In 1932 it was rebuilt and two platforms were added for District Line trains, and it was renamed Becontree.
Ooh! My running club (the Barking Road Runners) meets on Gale Street.
You have real job, educating and entertaining all of us geeks.
Hope you get paid more by the sponsors with your glorious script
The Long Island Railroad had its share of name changes,and with the development of the island,and extensions,from the 1840's onward,the amount of change was rather great!! And add the fact that the MTA,had abandoned stations,especially on the East End,it a rather interesting tale! More history overlooked! Thanks for a foray into the depths of the UNDERGROUND 🚇, and a most enlightening trip!! Jago,strikes again! 🚇🚇🚇🚉🚉
I thought they were going to change West Ham Station to read "West Ham Nil'
I hope some Iron supporter at TfL doesn't decide to change Stratford to West Ham.
6:24 To me "Addison Road" immediately evokes subway rides because it's the name of a station on the Washington, DC Metro, formerly the Maryland terminus of the Blue Line. (Or sometimes the Orange Line, but that is another story.)
Very interesting lesson.😊
I am beginning to think that this amount of releases is in no small measure an attempt to achieve early retirement and escape to anywhere but the underground. Well good luck with that plan, but in the meantime, thanks for the videos.
Interesting how the underground prefers names of districts/places over street names. If you exclude Canon Street; there only 15 with Street, Road or Lane, and some of those might still be classed as district names. I’ve taken the two Broadway stations as district names, as there are no actual streets of those names.
Oddly St James Park station is in Broadway (on one of its exits)
Given that road names often repeat across districts and towns this is really not surprising.
@@patrickovsiu tell that to the Americans (especially NYC), but even in Berlin 😂.
@@apuldram Well I strongly think that at least stations within one system must not share names
The Broadway in Ealing is just south of the station after which it was named.
Not a tube line, but my local station (and the town) started off life as Smitham Bottom, and was renamed first to Smitham, and then Coulsdon Town about 100 years late. :p
I'm really interested to hear more. The tube has more layers than... well, the tunnels.
Fascinating stuff, Jago - as always.
These 18whatnot dates never fail to surprise me😅
Olympia opened as Kensington in 1863, but took its present name in 1846? Going to listen a 3rd time to make sure I heard correctly.
I wondered about that too!Time warp at Olympia?
Gracious, the ads are so clever!
Well Done , That Jago !
Very good as always
After you do all the name changes on the underground, you should do a video covering name changes on other tfl services such as tramlink, overground etc
Not my place to correct you Mr.H. but surely, at 07:25 "everything east of here" is surely also on the 𝑫𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒕 𝑳𝒊𝒏𝒆 ?? At least it proves I'm paying attention but I figured a mistake was very unlikely, so had to check on a map.😁
Dagenham East was originally a train station called Dagenham and Heathway was opened as a tube line BUT because literacy wasn't that great (and pre-Google) some people travelling to Fords were getting off at the wrong station (but Fords is in Dagenham, what do you mean Dagenham station isn't the right stop for Fords!!!) So both stations were renamed to clear up that confusion...
I was hoping Holmes would be kidnapped by Zeppelin pirates...
Never give up your passion sir, btw becontree opened as Gale Street halt.
Always loving your videos, Jago 👌🏽. Perfect to join my cup of coffee ☕️ as I slowly start my day…
By the way, did you ever do one where you explain what elephant 🐘 they are referring to in ‘Elephant & Castle’?
With Fulham Broadway. It should be renamed as Chelsea Broadway as it’s close to Chelsea FC Stamford Bridge stadium.
And Dagenham East could of been called East Dagenham or Eastbrookend as there is a country park near Dagenham East called Eastbrookend County Park and yes it is near to Dagenham & Redbridge FC on Victoria Road.
*could have
Although Fulham Broadway Station is just around the corner from the stretch of road called Fulham Broadway.
Thanks for the information ☺️
~5:33 "You know, I could have had a real job." 😅🤣👍
4:53 Time And Relative Dimension In Space !
I would not be surprised if Fulham Broadway has a name change in future years to incorporate the name of the football club next door
7:19 - pedant's corner: you said "everything east of here is also on the Circle line", but I think you meant "everything west of here"...
Although you have already covered somethings in other videos, I'd like you to cover everything completely in this video, so we have it all together and complete.
I was hoping for a "Wakkos World" sing-a-along version
Speaking of proper jobs - for Punctuation you could do a collaboration with Tom Scott on names of contention on the underground. And it that is not a waste but had Fulham Broadway not got its rename Ian Dury would have trouble penning his musical poetry to scan.
There some interesting name changes but cannot believe a lot of them took place in 1910, brilliant video and the paid advert was brilliant at the beginning
I think it might have been the arrival of Pick and the Underground Group formation but I will have to check my time line sources.
Damned genitive cases! I'll lend you my copy of Eats Shoots And Leaves by Lynne Truss, if you don't mind the Marmite and Chilli stains.
To think, there is a parallel universe out there where tourists trying to get to their out-of-town hotels and such have to deal with Mill Hill Park and Mill Hill East. Oh, the poor bastards...
Yes I think this was one of those name changes where a major factor was avoiding confusion with somewhere else in a different part of London. See also adding "by Bow" to Bromley.
@@trickygoose2 Presumably tied in with Bromley Kent becoming part of Greater London as a Borough. Confusing with Hayes with Hayes and Harlington
@@highpath4776 yes there are a few areas of London with similar names. I think outside of the East End, most people nowadays would think of the outer London suburb when they just hear or see "Bromley". As well as Hayes, there is also an area in the borough of Bromley called Plaistow.
So very clever!
One you missed was ''Gale Street Halt'' which became Becontree
It appears that Fulham Broadway got its current moniker after a local campaign was waged because there was no longer any tube station in the Borough of Fulham bearing the borough's name.
given the location I'm surprise it didn't have a tie in with the local football club - Abramovich Avenue has a certain ring to it!
@@RedfishUK1964 Well, I suppose that there are question marks hanging over Mr Abramovich's continued commitment to Chelsea FC given the fact that he appears to be persona non grata with the government at the moment AND he's postponed, if not cancelled, the stadium upgrade plans at Stamford Bridge.
although Putney Bridge could have been called Fulham Palace. That would have been good.
A dwindling number of long time residents still call the station Walham Green. The council ward it is in has been renamed back to Walham Green from Fulham Broadway but I doubt the station will officially follow.
Jago, I am currently in London. While looking on the tfl map I was surprised to see Tottenham Court Rd was marked on the Northern line only and not on the Central line!! What's the story with this? Other tube maps clearly show a circle connection between Central line and Northern line. It looks as if the Central line goes straight from Holburn to Oxford Circus.
Old Underground joke.
Q. Are you going to Turnham Green?
A. No, I'll paint 'em blue
Are you going to Clapham, - Only If They are very good
Damn, I clicked on this video hoping to find the solution to world hunger. You've let me down, Jago.
Your videos are always entertaining and educational. They stir in me a desire to come back to London for a visit. And when I do, I plan to take a day or two to visit several tube stations that you have so expertly described. A question: I grew up in the Lehigh Valley which is located in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, home to the Lehigh Valley Railroad and the Lehigh Coal and Navigation Company. And as was taught in the grade schools of my era, the local canal was established by Messrs. Joshiah White and Erskine Hazard. Now, in all my 62 years on this earth, I've not ever met anyone with the last name of Hazard, so I would take it that this is an unusual surname, though the spelling is slightly different. I'm left to wonder if this is a long lost relative?
Alas no!
I have taken your gentle suggestion…
Wasn't Becontree called Gale Street Halt when first opened until they extended the line east? Or do you discount that because of the demolition and rebuilding?
That, everyone, is how you do a sponsorship reading.
dear Jago could you please do a special on the oldest pieces of infrastructure still standing in the rail network, cheers.
Could the Earls in Earls Court be an adjective, a way of describing the Court? That would at least justify the lack of apostrophe 😁
Now that’s how you do an ad read
Jago's been watching Map Men I see!
The most drastic name change I'm aware of is on the Fairbourne Railway in Wales.
Previous name: Gorsafawddachaidraigodanheddogleddollonpenrhynareeurdraethceredigion*.
Current name: Golf.
*Source: Tony Dewick 'Complete Atlas Of Railway Station Names' (2002)
All those name changes: truly bizarre!
Did no-one consider the apoplexy wrought on our beloved Used House sales extortionists? 😭
There's a T.A.R.D.I.S. At Earl’s Court...
Best surfshark advert ever.
5:35 do not ever get a real job Jago mate, 'specially not now you are doing all this malarkey.
Opened as Kensington - 1863, renamed Addison Road 5 years later, received its current name in 1846 ……………. ? 😳 Hopefully I it shows I’m listening 😳. Regardless, still a damned good series of videos, please keep them coming !
1946, apparently.
Just got back from london!
love to see you team up with M Portillo on a decent budget and do a series on Railways …..
Excellent, even the advert is slightly amusing (or perhaps has a distinct touch would be better).
Top video, Wrighty!
A rose by any other name wouldst never pong like a tube station.
Thanks for renewing the memories of my teenage commute between Ealing Broadway and Turnham Green, when I was a callow youth working in a same day photo lab in Chiswick High Road.
Good morning Jago
Needs more groynes.
Can you do a video of Essex Road station and figure out how mysterious and odd this underground national rail station really is?
May I ask what happened to Northfields Station on the route between Acton Town and Ealing Broadway? It was also served by the Piccadilly line which, incidentally, went straight through the stations between Acton Town and Hammersmith Broadway on its route into the City. I didn't see Northfields on the maps you displayed, so maybe another part of my life in the Smoke has disappeared, like Norbiton LT bus station which I mentioned on here some while ago. Ye gods, I am old.
Norbiton never had a bus station, NB the garage was rebuilt then turned into a DIY retailer, effectively being replaced by the back end of Fulwell and the Tolworth Coal Yard bus depot (well more a parking lot). Kingston Bus Garage went too with its integral bus station, ending up with Kingston Bus Station being where the Kingston Coal Yard bus parking area was - and the Other Kingston Bus Station that was beside the bay platform at Kingston Station was moved effectively to the Fairfield market site (part thereof). Simple.
The Northfields station is still on the Piccadilly Line, Heathrow branch.
@@highpath4776 Thank you. I was a bricklayer working at the Norbiton site of the bus garage-to-be and never saw it completed.
@@stevevasta Great! I was a tad confused at the idea of it being gone entirely.
Has Barons Court always lacked an apostrophe then? I've always thought it weird (and slightly annoying) that Earl's Court has one but Barons Court doesn't.
It would be, or would it be, interesting to hear the history of Mornington Crescent, the station rather than the popular game, as for a lot of my time in London it was closed. You also have the added bonus of the proposed name not being the one thet ended up using.
They made me a present of Mornington Crescent: They threw it a brick at a time.
Elm Park could have been Elm Park Garden City if it hadn't have been for the war
You could've got a real job lol 🤣. I think this is keeping you busy enough Jago :)