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Why it's OK to say the word "black" | Sophie Duker at Live at the Apollo - BBC
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Watch the BBC first on iPlayer đ bbc.in/iPlayer... Stand up comedy at the Hammersmith Apollo. Liverpudlian comedian Chris McCausland hosts the first episode of the series, welcoming comedians Sophie Duker and Emmanuel Sonubi to the stage.
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That last coffee joke was brilliant! đđđđ
Comparatively yes.
And the black birdđđ
no
When she asked, I said "yellow?". I was really lost.
Yes ... it is a descriptive term ... like white. If you have to lower the volume of your voice when you say 'black', the rest of that sentence is probably fucked up, too.
Thissss
It's a descriptive term which generalises about 1/3 of the planet based on what they are wearing. "...the content of their character, not the colour of their skin"
I saw this on tik tok just now and the very last joke about coffee is what sold me on her đđđ
Anyone who gets heat from Laurence Fox is OK in my book!
Of course the word black is ok to say.
Yes
This was a trap Alex the hate police are coming for you.
@@emz2969 Iâm ready
A black comedian joking about race? Thatâs original!
At least she's not talking about her vagina.
Labels like Black, White, and Asian only make sense outside of their contexts. In Britain Sophie is Black, but I'm not White.
Went on for 2 minutes, felt like 8
Unfunny black woman is a good description.
How could anyone send you hate? Except for being too intelligent and it scares people. Truly gorgeous.
Sad
cuz shes a creep
AFRICAN AMERICANO đđđ
You have to remember that âBlackâ was swapped out for âcolouredâ in the 60s as a more polite term. Lots of people from that generation still think of the word âblackâ as being offensive which is why they hesitate to use it
Coloured is now considered offensive. Look up Benedict Cumberbach when he used that word. Descriptive words are now offensive.
Gratz on taskmaster â€đ
There's also black chocolate
Yes
Where was the comedy?
When's the comedian coming on your holding up the show
Guess you just don't have a sense of humour
this deffo angered some yt look at the like ration lmaoo
some youtube?
that doesn't make sense in a sentence
Another race baitor how witty
What a lovely black girl!!!
I really like how confident she looks and how she speaks/moves on stage, but these jokes are weak as hell.
your kidding?
Americans need to learn 1 thing
Everything is allowed in conversation. If a black person feels attacked because of the Word black then he is mentaly not steady and you should clearly ignore him since black people use the word white in every situation they can use(my personal experience)
Same for the N word. No one is every allowed to say it since its a word we dont need in our language but if black people use it while forbid you to say it then theyre definetly not better then the slaverys back in the Days. We are Humans, colors or Nations are so irrelevant.
Want equality? Live it - dont talk about it.
People aren't better than slaves if they point out that it's more wrong for a non-black person (asian, white, etc) to use a word rooted in oppression (like, slavery based oppression) than the people who are descended from people who it was used to oppress in a casual conversation? Woah yikes.
People who are legitimately upset by these words are also offended when people of a similar colour to them use the word. Itâs for those people that we donât use the word, the people who use them and then pretend to be offended by when someone else does, simply because of the apparent race of the person saying it, are just playing racist games. The idea that a white person even using the word when quoting a black person is racist is clearly the definition of racism. Judging a person by their character and not the colour of their skin was a concept popularised by a champion of US racial progress but thatâs an idea that has been lost on many.
Fortunately there are some very credible people such as Glen Lowry, John McWhorter and Colman Hughes (to name a few) who promote a more reasonable, thoughtful view of racial progress and donât want their racial identity to be a pivotal factor in why their words have weight.
Yeah as a black person. I'm not happy that anyone use that word. I feel like black people who use it and tell others not too just want some kinda power, some kinda relevance.. just wanna matter, and is hurt.. and would even hurt other blacks by the word. Thats what history oppression made of them and hurt people hurt people.
Are we still talking about colour and what peopleâs skin colour is đ„± and the correct way of saying it.
We are because this very organisation the BBC made it that
Wheres the jokes
She's very funny, omg. I wanna see the entire thing.
Still waiting for the joke
Cmon the coffee one isn't bad.
@@craigk621 is that the standard, it's not bad
@@SpiffingDay yes afraid so, but then again she's not unique for the Live at the Apollo gang in my experience.
damn, Specsavers are waiting then because there was one 10 seconds in
I don't like comics who base the majority of their material on their ethnicity or where they're from. Use it in the act, but don't make it the core.
You saw 2 minutes
alright brad
Asked like that, I would have said chocolate.
She may say black, but she is, truth be told, a stunning mahogany.
Not funny in the slightest - that audience are either easily impressed or overly polite.
I have found out to my chagrin that it's not ok to say 'Not White'
Yea I am very proud of my skin color, I am black and that can't define me at all despite some people wanna shift it this is one of the best colors made by God.
And rightly so, most âwhiteâ people, Iâm Irish so Iâm translucent and have to go out int the sun for a week to turn white, canât wait to get a tan!
Imagine being proud of something you have no power over. A talentless person must grasp at straws.
@@Redsince66 Wtf are you on about? Were you drunk when you wrote that comment?
she's right, I got told off for saying "black paint" just last week.
bloke had the gall to tell me I can't say that. I have to say "Leeroy, would you please paint my fence?" it's PC gone mad
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I'm an angry white American!, and I love you Sophie.
she's funny and I enjoyed her set but as British ppl aren't we all comfortable with black?? is being worried abt saying "black", a southern thing?? I mean no disrespect to southerners by that I'm genuinely curious bc noone here has an issue with it, and saying "people of colour" is weird and clunky and feels unnecessary bc it's not like "black" is a slur?? It's a descriptive term??
TBF POC is like LGBTQ+ in a sense that it's a catch all term for those that aren't white.
But if you are talking about a specific group say the name of that group.
@@GCAbleism158 it's rather funny really, it's an exlusionist term, something those loons typically claim to be against. like goddamn, the irony is palpable
Very british comedian
The unfunniest comedian Iâve heard Race baiting is not funny
Humour segregation at its worst
Iâm I the only one who no longer finds comedy funny? Maybe this is better if you watch the whole show đ€·ââïž
Not funny
where can I watch in the club british drama
Itâs unfortunate today is the day they disable the dislike counter.
Iâll start : One.
Yes
Two
When she put her hand out and said "Sir, what colour would you say I am", she was clearly talking about skin colour, which is just not black.
BBC finna get cancelled đ
I think people have been tryna do that for years.
Bring back bernard manning
Yes
He'd be woke, now... It happened to Frankie Boyle.
Bring Black Bernard Manning ?
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No one really cares
Yes
But Maria, I care. I really do.
Because itâs simply a colour
wow so edgy and cool, yaay
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Funniest female comedian:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!
She a funny, clever comedian but the tax deductible joke was done by Liz Miele years ago
I like her ....shoes
She's brilliant and so funny!!!
That comment made me laugh more than her set ....thanks man đđ
I was watching Michael McIntyre and she popped up. Annoying voice
What! And you're brilliantly deluded!
I think my comment went to the wrong place. I've never even seen this video! WTF?
Sorry about that!
Whatâs actually wrong with African American, because it has African in it? Interesting
She's not Americanđ€Łđ€Ł world doesn't revolve around Americans
How do you say âblack illegitimate son without a fatherâ ?
Terrible, please stop.
Paint drying is more amusing
I am sort of pink, not white. Black is not a colour, white is not a colour. White reflects all the radiation from the sun, black absorbers and does not radiate. Are we not human? Absorb or radiate?
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She seems lovely! I think I would have said brown for colour but black for race...but that's only cos I'm very literal!
ANDI $INAGA 46 đźđčđźđ± đšâđ : # " WORLD ( GAME OVER IN HAND THEM ) " !
Bland, boring, stale, dreary, typical Woke comedy in a nutshell.
Although the African Americano thing made me chuckle.
How about everyone just stopped getting offended by just about anything? Black people are black, white people are white. Those are colours, not insults. Anyone being offended by being labelled as 'black' or 'white' even though the premise is not meant to be offensive has some serious mental issues.
I mean where's the equality in this? Black people always joke about white people, White people this, white people that, white people can't jump, nerds being labelled as 'the whitest people' etc etc etc and that's okay but then there are people who lose their jobs or become a target of disgusting and violent hatred for saying an innocent joke about black people or even worse, describing a black person as black. And I'm sorry but as long as this is happening, which it is and that's not nearly the whole of it, then this is not a laughing matter. Peoples' lives are ruined because of that.
The point is that as long as black people can't be racist, which is the current status quo, there's no equality and these things are just not funny. I mean has anyone ever heard about a black guy getting into trouble for being racist to white people? Because I know a guy who got suspended from their job for calling his spanish speaking friend 'mate' in Spanish (the word is 'negrito') and also I know a black person who got a commendation for heavily implying that white people are inferior. And why do you think that is? Because no black person has ever been racist to a white person? No, it's because that somehow is okay.
Take a moment to scroll through the comments here - a real gammon-fest. It's clear what the clip is all about from the thumbnail, so they're only here for the jeer. Bad joke, not sorry.
So you think she's funny.... because that's the sole criteria for a comedian regardless of race gender or sexuality. Only one joke worthy of note tbh ....imo ofc
She's racist. Generalisation based on superficialities is racism. "Of colour" means "non-white". Everyone from the sub-sahara and the carribean must be the same eh?
for sure
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Well I make up jokes about black women all the time and I'm a black man đ
Not seen you on tele dude!
Lame
I don't think its ok to say 'black'. Genius comic tbhh
who asked you
Her dress is slipping.
Love you BBC go Africa.......
Please remember Afghanistan đŠđ«.
Fight for your country. Not running away like a looser đđđ
@@fr9853 he didnât say heâs running away
I hope so! Because a lot of afghans did and doing it instead of fighting and healing their country. Shame on them!
@@fr9853 says the troll from the safety of their mom's basement.
Wait can i ask for an african americano?
Definitely not.
We all say black nowadays itâs the norm. Nowt new here. I love Lawrence Fox . Whatâs the reference about? Who really minds what colour people are? Remember when labour were in power and we werenât allowed to say black bin bags, or sing ba ba black sheep in nursery- they made the word black uncomfortable and thank goodness itâs normal to say it
The LF reference...black good..Brexit bad...LF racist for his spat on Question Time.
It's a poor joke but hey, I think the Apollo audience don't pay...soooo....
@@craigk621 Or maybe it's becasue he was fired for racism...
@@emz2969 was he ? Source ?
Sorry when was labour last in power? Oh yeah that's right, 2010. When the hell were we not meant to say black bin bags? I cannae remember
@@NothingHereButMe never, pretty sure baa baa black sheep was never banned either. But gammons gonna gammon.
Wow this is dull.
No it is not okay. If we cannot make jokes about being black, then you cannot make jokes about being black, and expect us to laugh at them.
That's an odd comment. Who is "we" and who is "you".
It's not okay. I'm African American. Just like an Asian American, middle eastern American or Indian American is considered that no matter how many generations their family has been here. It's not okay.
@@arkan2833 yes
@@arkan2833 ...I'm not american...and I'm not black....but some people are black
We're all "African Americans" . It's where humans came to be.
It means nothing.
Yeah, but we're all white and thats completely fine to you.
A blinkered "world" view.