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Why Virginia Makes No Sense
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- Virginia makes absolutely no sense. Not from a historical standpoint, nor even a geographic one, but in terms of its population. Virginia is home to so many different peoples, from the Coastal population, to the Appalachians, to the Black Belt, to the Northern Virginia Suburbs. And yet, all of these different people are all forced to live under the rule of the bureaucrats of Northern Virginia, who don't represent the rest of the state at all. So, why on earth should Virginia look like this? Enjoy!
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0:00 Introduction
0:28 History
2:26 Virginia's Diversity
4:20 How I Would Redraw Virginia
6:28 Conclusion
As a Virginian, I suggest we reclaim our birthright of the whole continent.
Magna-Virginia!
Could agree more 😎
No Texas should
@@Texan_christian1132, Texas? You mean west-west-West Virginia, correct?
@@MatthewChenault what’s a Virginia? Is it a east east Texas or are you talkin bout a body part?
Virginia is known as Mother of Presidents, but is less known as Father of Rebels. Virginia probably is the strongest state. Well Virginia almost has zero issues with climate, no major hurricanes, tornados, flooding, snow, we might have a freak storm once in a blue moon. Strong workforce, and education backgrounds. Universities and strongest economy due to defense and tech. If you was to break up the 50 states Virginia would wind up as one of the 10 strongest economies of the world. Huge amount of military vets and active duty population here as well. Our sole enemy is traffic
i can confirm as a virginian
I can also confirm. Don't forget that Loudon County is the richest county in the country, and Fairfax county is #6.
As a man who lives in Virginia I can confirm
Has someone who commute from Culpeper to Stafford i wholeheartedly agree
The traffic comment at the end is so true 😂
Ngl your “plan” to split up Virginia is very unrealistic. America as a country is made up of a great number of ethnic groups from around the world, so our states will aswell. Grouping states by race and economic status is a very dangerous proposition
It’s even why the Balkans is the mess it is right now
Especially considering States are supposed to be nations in a pact, not provinces under a federal government.
The voting bloc is already that way. Having lived several years in Southwest Virginia AND later several years in Northern Virginia, I ca testify that they have nothing in common. The dense Northern suburbs are almost entirely dependent on the Federal Government and won't support the rural areas of Virginia on most anything. Look at Maryland's map and you can see they have it even worse. The Western voters in Maryland famously held up the construction of a critical second span of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge for many years. No sweat off their hinterland backsides. Traffic in the Summer months would back up to Baltimore or Bowie (almost DC).
Orémus Y'all.
@@vonhalberstadt3590The two regions are actually so unlike it’s crazy
Then please elaborate as to why one single tiny part of the state should have control over the vast majority of the rest of it? Let me stop you before hand, because of course you'll say population. "It's where a majority of the population lives!" yeah that is such a cop out answer. I know that is how our system is set up, and it's honestly garbage and needs to change. Until it changes to a system of actual equal representation the only real solution to this problem (yes, it is a problem) is dissolution and seperation of the state. Let Richmond and the DC area be East Virginia.
The same fundamental issue exists with California and New York (more specifically California). They have a HUGE population count but only in a few coastal cities. We're talking cities of MILLIONS. And look at their electoral maps, it's a sea of red with only a few counties that are blue. THOSE people in those cities effectively tell the entire state (and furthermore the whole country) how to live their lives and what laws should be passed. I live in Mississippi. Why the hell do 30 million people in two different states on the other side of the country get to tell me I can't have a gun? State Rights do exist, and I think at this point the federal government and the whole entire electoral college voting system needs to be abolished and replaced.
kind of strange how you described the democrats as federal government bureaucrats as if republicans aren’t also federal government bureaucrat
Well, the Democrats are the ones who are mainly making the government much bigger all the time, giving themselves raises for doing a poor job, and it's only increasing with Biden working on making the IRS bigger to steal everyone's money.
Honesty that’s a weird way he framed it didn’t he? Yeah Virginia is Dem, but like we’re not like Cali or NY. We got a bit of purple.
we even have a republican govenor rn
@@Snuggs86 Yeah sadly, hope this state gets someone good to run it
@@crylec6534 we pray
Such an odd way to summarize the political effect northern Virginia has on the state. By no means is even a majority of everyone in Nova who votes Democrat a bureaucrat, and it’s even sillier to say the state is “controlled by federal government bureaucrats”
As a Virginian, yeah we are pretty weird.
But isnt that great? You have history, wealth, proximity to power, and natural beauty. Your literally a Hamilton song.
@@gabrialcanada6764 oh no it is. It's just kinda funny how the state is sometimes.
As a Virginian I agree
As a Virginian, this is true
As another Virginian, I also agree. I live in central va
You can divide every state like this. NYC from upstate NY, Chicago from Illinois and so forth. The founding fathers’ vision isn’t to split every region up based on differences but for the population to set aside their differences work together
Yeah, but in cases like those, the states rural population regardless of political affiliation will not have adequate political representation. Why should one city be able to dictate the policy for a rural resident with a completely different culture, economy, and way of life. Even in a state like Pennsylvania where I live and has two larger cities, they dictate nearly all of the states politics. Even in candidates to vote for, most democratic candidates for governor or other statewide offices are from either Philadelphia or Allegheny county on the ballot. That, combined with the majority of state spending going towards these cities and their suburbs, the rural counties are simply left out of the equation.
Back then Americans were united, and the Founders never thought a man like Karl Marx would exist and fuck everything up. Thanks to him, the Soviet Union, and China, America has been poisoned with globalist communist propaganda from multiple institutions that love to pick and choose the Constitution when it suits them at the expense of American strength selling us out to the rest of the planet. More money goes overseas now than it does to stay and fix our own damn country, exactly what the communists wanted!
@thecompanyfront5935 because they have more people. If this plan goes forward, ya'll will just be broke ass states that will need to import manpower to move the economy and you will create the problem all over again, just even more localized to your rural area.
You could use a similar argument for the USA, and the United is a super power! “Virginia is the best state but I think we should break it up” is like saying “I know I have a great stable job but what if I quit it” “wow I am so smart”
Do you realized you just made the case for segregation?
I'm JUST curious.
Not segregation, it’s not like the borders would be closed between the states.
He literally drew the lines to isolate "the black belt" and complained about Northern Virginia being overfilled with "Hispanic immigration." This video is a love letter to segregation
Soooooo,
Northern virginia has a much larger, denser population. So we get more seats. This is like bitching that California gets more seats than Alaska.
Northern Virginia(NOVA) sucks. I’m a liberal and I hate that area. Richmond has become sooo much more expensive because of people from NOVA fleeing NOVA.
You said what about NOVA?
@@Denco2X exactly what I said.
@@jdcsteelers498then become conservative
Did you even watch the rest of this short video?
Someone’s a bit jealousssss…
No but seriously, I have a lot of problems with this video.
As a Nothern Virginian, I do not like one bit how you described all of us as “bureaucrats”.
It seems that you failed to acknowledge that we are real people and aren’t just government toys.
Districts are given based on population, and NoVa just has a bunch of people, obviously.
You also claim NoVa dominates and pretends to speak for all Virginians.
Well, Josh, one Virginian to another, why do you claim to speak for the rest of the state too?
as a Carolinian who regularly deals with the 434, 804 and the 757, it is my understanding that those areas despise the 703/571 area for many reasons, and the only thing they envy is the amount of control your area has over the rest due to gerrymandering and bureaucratic red tape that was used to bias that area over the rest.
From the 757, I have no problem with NoVa, it’s great for our states economy. Sure they influence our politics but isn’t that most states anyways? Plus it is really quite a beautiful area!
757 here, and this video is absolutely bonkers. Racist, segregationist claptrap. He has a major hate-on for NoVa.
the point is that yall have a totally different culture than say the appalachian Virginians. and because yall have a big population, the government doesn’t help out the other regions as much as well as not having as much representation. (this is basically the argument for the electoral college). also as he points out most of the people living in NoVa are coming from the north and bringing their values with them.
@@coledean4598 And how would the Appalachian Virginians be better served by being added to West Virginia and rural Kentucky and Tennessee? Taking all of the poorest parts of multiple states and lumping them together multiplies the problems they face while slashing the budgets and tax revenue that they have to solve those problems. Splitting the ridge & valley region of Virginia off from NoVa and the Tidewater/Hampton Roads area would be the true act of abdicating all responsibility and care for those constituents.
Umm the bureaucrats in the north don’t rule Virginia. The bureaucrats in Richmond, the state capital, do. You seem to forget that.
They both do
you forget they we (NOVA) are next to what is basically the capital of the world, so up north is what ultimately rules us also, at least 25% of the Virginia population lives there
Do you not know how representative democracy works?
@@OriginalBongoliath I do but people unfortunately people from VA go to DC to protest on things that are ultimately state issues and if you don't win majority of NOVA county's your not going to win governor and will probably loose your chance at the senate
Okay..... just need to point out the idea that the "rest of the state is unrepresented" is not true. People vote, not acres of land. Too many forget this when looking at a map and thinking seeing the pretty colors (in this case, red) is "most of the people in the state wanted xyz." The red you see all over the state has less people. That pretty colors on a map do not represent the people.
So for example if:
County 1 has 5 people
County 2 has 7 people
County 3 has 2 people
County 4 has 3 people
County 5 has 10 people
County 6 has 9 people
If Counties 1 through 4 hold 49% representation in government; and Counties 5 and 6 hold 51% representation in government..... lets not act like Counties 1 through 4 "has no representation" because they couldnt force their ideology through minority rule.
Nor should the entire state bend over backwards to do what they want instead of what the majority of the state wants.
Way too many look at the pretty colors on a map and think that represents the amount of people who voted for a specific thing.
TLDR:
(1) Representation should reflect the people, not acres of land. 5 acres of land with 1 person shouldnt bt default overrule 1 acre with 3 people.
(2)The minority claiming they arent represented, tend to the group quiet the moment they get their way over the majority. In otherwords, they dont give 2 shits about "representation", theyre just upset the times minority rule doesnt win. And yes, theres definitely many state laws under affect thanks to minority rule.
(3)This phenomenon you speak of exists in almost every state in this country. Including the states Virginia is surounded by like Maryland, North Carolina, etc. Maryland for example is a blue state, but different parts of Maryland arent blue.
"people vote not acres"
Yes. But the issue is because our system is winner take all, the people who live in more rural areas can't get a democratic foothold because they aren't being REPRESENTED by their officials. The officials vote to satisfy the majority meaning with a hypothetical population of 100, 51 blue voters and 49 red voters, the state would count as 100 blue voters. That is why the claim of "conservatives aren't getting represented" holds true. And also why splitting it like he suggested would work. I think changing our voting system instead of our borders would be fairer and easier, but w/e.
@@soggycheese8485it's not true.
Representatives of your district gets voted into the House.
If rural America is the minority, then they should have a minority representation. What people in the minority really want is minority rule, where everyone bends over backwards to make sure the minority is happy, and the majority unhappy.
@@soggycheese8485No he's just flat wrong.
They are being represented by their representatives. They are just the minority, and butthurt they can't impose their will on the majority.
49 Republicans and 51 Democrats is still 49 Republicans. Regardless if you get butthurt your 49 can't force the 51 to bend to your whim. As spare me the tears as the 49 would have no issue if they were the majority. With the minority party ignorantly pointing at pretty colors on all map to convince themselves they are the majority often.
As for splitting it, again it's just a butthurt agenda that dodges the point. Let me let you in on a little secret that will blow your mind. Those pretty red colors on a map isn't 100% Republicans. Just like those pretty blue colors on a map isn't 100% Democrats.
What do I mean you may ask. Those "red rural districts" you want to "split." Those aren't 100% red voters. In other words the same logic you are attempting to apply on a state level, applies to the district that's "red." The blue voters in those districts go ignored because they are the minority there. So your proposal doesn't magically fix the problem. It never could.
Simply put like I said originally, the video is just butthurt red is the minority and can't force minority rule. But those red districts have no problem with the minority of blue voters being overshadowed in red districts.
Acers don't vote, but they matter for what people need. When you lump more numbers together and give them all the power, that's something we also see and call a mob. When its winner takes all in such a tiny area, the numbers should still be a factor, but its not the end-all be-all, and no the guys outside do NOT get represented if they are beaten every time in a system that only would work on sheer numbers. You're listening to an echo chamber. Yet a very price pragmatic, money-making one. Its more complicated than just a straight by-number democracy = the only correct way, but its also not a case of "but all the red!". The distance, land detail, and their different needs and cultures do matter. Otherwise on a global pure scale, we'd all just copy and do EXACTLY what China and India wants until we fall apart from having different needs that they can't know, meet, or emulate correctly.
@jgunner280 Again, more logic that demands the minority to have more say over the majority. While still falsely claiming you have no representation.
What you just said does not change if there is:
10 district, 80% of the population is blue and 20% of the population is red. Red is given representation if they have 2 reps out of the 10.
Red. Is. Not. The. Majority.
Hence why they have 8 out of 10. It's completely false to claim Red is not represented when they have 2 out of 10, and only make up 20% of the population. You are just mad you can't force minority rule.
No, you having more acres does not remotely mean you should have more say over the majority of people in this country.
As a Virginian i can confirm were the greatest state
In what way?
NO! TEXAS IS THE BEST!
As a native Virginian who lived in Texas, I gotta say I think I like Texas more. VA history is....ok but not my thing, and the landscape is beautiful. However I found the cowboy meets down south meets chicano vibe with a work hard play harder mentality was cool. And I'm definitely attracted to Mexican women. Texas is just a vibe to me.
@@iceqtip2764 yep
I lived in Texas for almost 20 years this place is not that good educational wise terrible Health Care wise terrible weather is terrible the women here are okay if anything I don't know if you hear Hispanic or not but Mexican girls are not all of that and if you're black just like myself I think that you would prefer Virginia Over Texas nine times out of 10 especially given that you could also get a solid education in Virginia in the living wages are also better in Virginia and housing prices are not particularly that bad compared to Texas and Texas had one of the most increase when it comes to rent
It's not a State, it's a commonwealth
That’s how I know you’re a Virginian
Yes.
I’m a native Northern Virginian and NOVA had never been southern in my life. Maybe 100 years ago it was different but in the 30+ years I’ve been alive, it’s always had a separate identity from the rest of the state. But even during the civil war, More than half of VA didn’t join the confederacy. All of West Virginia, which was Virginia stayed. As did Northern VA, the Hampton Roads, and the Eastern Shore. Those parts had their own government and slavery was abolished. The confederacy was only central and south/southwest VA. The rest of the state gets “ignored” simply because the population and the economies of those areas a small. But the majority of Virginians are represented based of the politics.
As a Virginian from Richmond, this video makes no sense. You simply don’t split people up based on diffrences.
Why not
Im from Richmond too
@@idhalversonbecause we tried that before and it was known as segregation
@idhalverson Because it's stupid and humans are fickle. One day the people you grouped together may not agree.
Dude how old are you? You act like Virginia didn’t just barely flip blue the past few elections. We currently have a republican governor and the house is not always democrat at all. wtf are you talking about. I’m from southern Va and moved to northern Va a year ago and the people in Hampton roads don’t feel “dominated” by northern Va like at all.
wtf even is this video?
What are you talking about? Every time SoVA goes against NoVA in events regardless of politics or ethnicity there is bad blood. Every NoVA kid talking to SoVA kids like they are poor, dumb and incompetent it really does suck and feels like the representation is only barely close due to the hard work of SoVA students and competitive workers. From first generation immigrants and people coming from generational poverty SoVA might not be as rich, but we are persistent.
@@deadliftingtubas5623 I was a southern Va kid and went to Virginia tech in the far west of Virginia and married a northern Va girl. We lived in Chesapeake and now live in northern VA. I have never experienced any classism between northern Va and Hampton roads. There is some between people from Richmond, northern Va and Hampton roads and rural Virginia. But that is a city vs country thing that exists in every state and actually all over the world. Stop thinking Virginia is special, it’s just like every other state with rural and urban/suburban populations
@@gmfan09 The main reason people don't like NoVa, is most of them work for the Feds, so there's a high concentration of Fuck-ups, who think they deserve some kind of admiration. Like working for the Federal Government makes them Elite or something. I'm like, have you seen the country, you're failure is my everyday life. Plus, the traffic, that shit would make a monk start slapping random people.
I live in Hampton Roads and went to UVa in Charlottesville. You get way more hostility from people from far out of state than from people from NoVa. People in the rural Richmond area however are the worst, most unfriendly people I have met in Virginia however. This is not to say everyone there is bad, this is only my limited experience living there vs elsewhere in VA. There is tons of anger there due to economic factors and the decline of rural areas generally.
@@cantbelieveimdoingthis7550 Yes, you went to UVA, you are one of the NOVA people that think they are better than the rest of VA, you don't get hate in NOVA, because you are one of them, you have money, a rich family, and you are a democrat.
the north and other blue areas "dominate" the rest of the state because thats where most people live 💀
I literally explained that in the video lol, the problem is they don’t represent everyone else, and act in their own interests
@@JoshSullivanHistory so you’ve literally just described democracy, the 51% ruling the 49%
@@caseyb8713bro omg that's the damn point bro
@@caseyb8713Yeah, there’s this thing called majority rule, minority rights.
@@JoshSullivanHistoryunder that idea would you also say that other southern states should rework their districts to adequately represent liberal cities in their state legislatures? It’s an open secret that electoral boundaries are drawn to favor republican candidates in most southern states and will often Divy up democratic leaning areas to secure strong republican majorities. If you’re complaining about rural areas not receiving adequate representation then you have to say the same for cities, otherwise your values only apply to one group (the one you favor) thus exposing them as being biased and not truly good for all the people of the state, only created to empower the groups you favor and to disenfranchise those you dislike.
This man really said we should separate ourselves from the blacks and give them their own state. Bruh
You'd understand if you lived here. Even the black cultures are different
I was born and raised in WV. Moved out of the state many times only to end up back here and I don’t understand. This comment alone is enough for me to know that I don’t want to watch the video. There are alot of black people where I live. In fact, I read in a book at the library about our city in WV and it said when slavery ended, a lot of black people moved to that city and there’s lots of blacks. Most of my high school had more blacks than whites. I work with a lot of black people. I’m friends with black people. The guy who mows my grass is black. I don’t want to hear no racist nonsense about our state. Maybe some parts in WV but NOT WHERE I LIVE! Some ppl here might feel like pyronuggets, but they’re wrong. Myself and a lot of white ppl I know will NOT tolerate with such bs! We ALL bleed red!!!! All diversity is welcomed here.
@isisaphrodite3585 of course my comment sounded racist to you 🙄 it really wasn't though. I'll clarify for ya. The black cultures here are different from each other in both good and bad ways. For example most of the northern area of the "blackbelt" mentioned in this video the people can separated by generation. The older generations are either completely racist and violent or the nicest and most decent human being I've ever met and the younger generations are more self focused and mature and strive for success where as the southern area of the black belt is where the 7 cities are all together and it's more violent and almost tribal since they can't be around each other and like which side of the river their from matters. Watch the video before you go off about people being racist otherwise you're just talking out your ass
@pyronuggets Bruh, I did watch the entire video, and nowhere did you mention anything about tribalism in the black community or crime. You just said that 'black culture is different', which implies that black culture is crime rather than a result of socio-economic factors. I bet the black belt is one of the poorest areas in your state (I don't have the data to confirm) and crime and poverty go hand-in-hand because noone is going to risk their career and future prospects by joining a gang, dealing drugs, etc if they have a bright future ahead of them. It's only when they know there is literally no alternative and that no matter what they do, they'll remain poor and discriminated against for the rest of their lives simply because of where they live.
If anything that just makes it worse since you're essentially saying that 'black people are so violent and their tribalism so bad that it's easier to separate ourselves from them than try to help and let them sort out everything themselves'. How can you expect things to get better in that community if they were in a smaller, poorer state than before? Economic issues and violence would simply drive more jobs away and thus people who work those jobs too, making the people who remain poorer which would only make the problem even worse. The solution to these problems is not segregation and pretending it doesn't exist or is someone else's problem, but working together on a state level to solve the issue and having them work with you to solve the other issues of the state.
@thatguychris7824 Oh, you're misunderstanding me. By tribalism, I mean the black cultures related to other black cultures are wildly different, so it comes off almost tribal. The black belt is technically the richer areas of the state, and I mentioned nothing about crime other than violence. Now, touching on violence, it's not race related, but it is rampant in this area just because they're cities. I'm simply trying to explain because I live in Virginia and actually know what I'm talking about
What you said essentially meant "The population of millions of people shouldn't have a say over a few hundred thousand." Though the connotation was very different.
Everyone gets a say, but in a democratic system, if your views don't match with others, you lose the vote. That's how democracy works.
It's one person one vote. Not one acre one vote.
There’s a big problem you’re overlooking here, which is that BARELY ANYONE LIVES IN THE RED DISTRICTS. That’s why the blue districts are so numerous and dense. There is something to be said for the state needing better representation, and I don’t even disagree with adding Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, and Alexandria to a state centered around DC, but ultimately a state’s legislature and congressional representatives should answer to the majority population, and that majority population lives in the big cities (and Blacksburg) and votes largely Democrat. Breaking up the state just because you don’t think some cultural and economic differences can be reconciled, even though they had been reconciled pretty well for the state’s entire existence, is just a flatly stupid idea.
What breathtaking nonsense! 😂
You say that until the majority disagrees with your opinion and point of view on freedom/what you enjoy doing and votes to take that away. You like democracy now??
So everytime the demographics change you wanna make a new state? 😂
Virginia shouldn’t have shmoked so many shmigarettes
Shmigarettes
Virginia was doing hoodrat shtuff with his friends
#COLLAB of doing a series of redrawing state borders in 3 separate versions.
1 best for Conservative people
2 best for Liberal people.
3 best for the Politcal Party's aka a realistic and equal Bipartisanship BILL.
The problem was the banned cigarette advertising.
Virginia’s power is tobacco. He who controls the tobacco, rules the world.
Virginians should learn how to drive
Bro thinks because people are different they should be separate
Virginia should have never given up the Northwest Territory. 😅
they would be a tax burden. LOL, it might make Virginia instead of the 7th richest state to about the 9th or 10th lol
@@kudjoeadkins-battle2502 It'd be worth it though. For one thing that land is beautiful.
@@MechaWingZero the land is beautiful
You do understand that under your plan, tax dollars from NOVA that go to poor areas will stop, and they will become poorer, correct?
Unrepresented? The split is 51-49. The rest of VA is well represented. Any given election flips the seats to R control.
Uhm, you can say this about every state. So your logic kinda falls apart.
You're acting like rural areas or Republicans have no representation when they quite literally do. Just because one area has more people doesn't mean rural areas lose their right to vote. We currently have a Republican governor who was elected in large part due to areas you are claiming "are bring controlled by the north".
Trying to exclude urban areas and give them less power is the same dumb idea that gave us gerrymandering and the extremely outdated electoral college. Every vote should count the same and we shouldn't start counting your votes less because you happen to live in one area
Furthermore, you're conveniently leaving out that Northern Virginia provides by far the most economic growth and tax revenue to the rest of the state. If we're talking about dollars, NOVA is supporting the rural areas, not the other way around.
You also didn't touch much on the high right of growth in areas like Richmond as well.
You frame NOVA as this power entity that rules over the majority. When most of the population lives within the blue spots of the state. Also why remove a section of Virginia because of its high black population?
Because that whole area sucks
@@lamariselite729 That’s a stupid reason
They definitely get the most infrastructure money. And the “more people” reasoning is difficult when other areas of the state get sorely neglected.
Roads on average are one, 64 in Hampton, New News and parts of Norfolk are AWFUL
@KatieLHall-fy1hw per capita NOVA gets much less infrastructure money
@@aneutralopinion1712 if you calculate it like that, sure, I guess, but I have never had a trip where I didn’t see a project they have been working on for years and years, or a new one starting. Is what it is.
We should return to the borders of the 1609 Virginia Charter
Only if the dream of Long Connect also rises from the ashes of revolution. 😆
Magna-Virginia!!!! Also, since it was Jamestown settlers who founded it, we ought to annex Bermuda as well. Augusta County, VA went as far north as Pittsburgh. The Commonwealth would spread from Tidewater to Oregon, long may we reign.
@@prezpolk4ever the dream of long Connecticut lives! Mwahahaa
@@prezpolk4ever Orange County went almost coast-to-coast in 1734
Can’t; Massachusetts took the northern half. 😂
If the suburban areas adjacent to DC hold enough of the state’s population to give Democrats control of the state legislature by a slim margin of 51% to 49% held by Republicans, how can anyone claim that rural (ie Republicans) voters have “no representation”? If elections these days weren’t regarded as zero-sum contests, why would members belonging to the minority party bother showing up to work at all? Then there would at least be some substance behind the claim that rural counties leaning Republican have no representation. But when Republicans are reporting to work when the legislature is open for business, every district whose elected delegate shows up for work that day has full representation, the same as any district whose elected delegate is a Democrat. Heavily populated areas have more voters, which mean more voting districts (determined by number of voting-age residents, not by land mass measurements) which in turn means more opportunities for those who want to serve to do so. But those whose values and opinions are out of step with the majority of voters in the district they’re running in shouldn’t expect to be elected. And once elected, if all they plan to do is sabotage the agenda of the majority party, then Republican voters in every district are getting what they expected. So how does one justify the losing party’s obstructionist agenda? Do the majority of voters whose candidates were successfully elected just have to suck it up? Maybe it is time for our “American Experiment” to be declared a failure and let the states out of this arrangement to become self-determining entities unto themselves? Self-determining and self-reliant are mutually exclusive, and let’s face it - it’s the blue states contributing the bulk of federal tax revenues which are then redistributed to states with the lowest revenues and the greatest needs. Take the federal infrastructure away and up to a third of states would fail within the first two years of “liberty” - most of them red states where Republicans ran the table in past elections. If that were to happen, who would save the states of the deep south from going under? What about the plains states? The reason Californians pay an extra ten percent in federal taxes is because states that need $1.78 in federal spending for every $1 they contribute would collapse without interstate welfare. Wealthier red states collectively aren’t wealthy enough to make up that deficit. If you vote, you have representation - it may not be the representation you wanted, but it’s there nonetheless unless you choose to disengage. People do, and that’s their prerogative; it’s just a lame way to govern.
To many words
You mean like California?
@@glencudaNo, like Wyoming, Nebraska, the Dakotas, New Hampshire, Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, and the Carolinas. I’d offer to put it on perspective for you but I’ve already done so.
The problem with opening the door to re-drawing borders like you suggest is that, once that genie comes out of the bottle, it never goes back in. People can call for re-drawing of borders for greater political autonomy of any kind- better black representation, better young representation, better agricultural representation, better female representation, whatever, the motivation wouldn't matter. You'd effectively create a country where the interior state borders morph like ripples in water, it would turn voting and representation on anything into an operational nightmare as states fracture, reform, and emerge into their own polities.
What you describe is achievable through gerrymandering, the re-drawing of state borders would be overkill. How about if when states decide to redraw voting districts to move a large percentage of those minority voters intact as a voting block into a neighboring district that already has a larger percentage of that target minority, they throw in new congressional seats commensurate to the new “enhanced” district population plus a couple of Senate seats?
7:21 you say that as you advocate for a fricking massive West Virginia.
Yeah that moment right there invalidated for me. I want to revoke his Virginian status
People in the Nova suburbs who work in the federal government are not that different from people in the Hampton Roads suburbs who work in federal military installations.
Fr I use to live in Hampton roads and we get alot if transplants from DC and my friends in DC say the same about virginians.
Fellow Virginian here (south east side) and just because land can't vote doesn't mean we should split up the state. Also Virginia is a swing state, not democrat, and one of the things that makes us great is standing united even while being so diverse. I'd recommend looking into other states voter maps because Virginia is not unique in that regard.
I wholly disagree with this as someone who lives in the Piedmont region. I can tell you that the people who live on the coast and the people who live in Appalachia, and the people who live in the black belt, we all have basically the same ideology, the only people in the state that differ from us. Are the people from northern virginia DC district area and those around Richmond. But even then, most people in Richmond think like the rest as well but the inner city dominates them. It's An interesting video but doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
As someone who lives in Appalachia, there aren't any miners left. Also, 51-49 isn't a "dominating" majority lol. Just glad Glenn doesn't get to pass anything he wants :)
You giving the Appalachian counties to West Virginia ironically lines up almost perfectly with the Pashtun regions in Pakistan and how the Afghans want to annex those lands. Both regions have roughly the same shape
Saying "these people don't belong together" is horrifying. Virginia has always been diverse, but unfortunately very hierarchical. The real problem you seem to see in Virginia is having neighbors who are different.
Especially the whole section on the “black belt” not only does he grossly misrepresent that region, but in his misrepresentation (claiming it to be mostly black), his solution is to separate them and contain them to a separate state because they don’t belong with the others. Pretty disturbing
You really act like people who disagree can’t share a state together smh. Also, it’s really offensive to Northern Virginia residents to act like they aren’t as “Virginian” as other Virginians. They have just as much a right to a voting voice as every other Virginian.
I agree with you but it does still pose the problem of their diplomatic weight being "More" than the rest of the state combined. I agree northern Virginia is still virginia but at times it does feel like a lot of the rest of the state gets shafted just because of their existence. Its a huge reason there was a lot of dislike for the north before the civil war as well where a smaller by mass but denser in people area of the country that is mostly urban and of a specific political leaning more often than not makes all the shots while the larger in mass but less densely populated areas tend to get less weight in the matter. And this isnt just a virginia problem either, its a issue that just tends to happens with republics like the US
Quit ur bitchin this isn't a fuckin hotline
Hit dog hollers
I'll also say NoVa's population, economy, and influence not including DC and the greater DMV area is it's connectivity to the Midatlantic/Northeast Megalopolis which is extending into the Henrico/Richmond area and in turn Hampton Roads further urbanizing the 3 VA regions
Don’t even lie to yourself. If you weren’t born in VA you aren’t Virginian.
It's a commonwealth, not a state.
It really sounds like you don't think different people should live together. I do not live in VA but have been many times and the state and people are beautiful and I think it is great just the way it is a bunch of different groups of people living in a great state trying to make it better (even if they all don't look alike and vote the same way)
It's almost like every state is divided into districts where democratic areas are well populated, urbanized cities, while republican areas are in rural, loosely populated expanses. This same notion applies to every state in the US.
All these differences are a microcosm of America and are what we are supposed to be all about. We shouldn't be grouped all together with the same views and things in common. How do you learn and make VA better?
Northern Virginia exports tax money to the rest of the state. Richmond would never agree to give up its cash cow. And Norfolk hosts the largest naval base in the world... funded by "bureaucrats" in DC.
They don’t take super great care of the base like they should. Ah well
As a North Carolinian I shriveled up when I heard the sheer proposal of Virginia taking our land. I love Carolina and to put it frankly we aren’t too dissimilar yet how you pronounced Appalachian just added insult to injury.
As a North Carolinian, I agree. Lemme throw an apple at ya’
@@AangleFish9964 As a SWVA native him mispronouncing the region says a lot.
As a NoVA suburbanite bureaucrat, I agree. He claims to love Virginia but wants to break apart all the regions so that there is no more Virginia 🙄
2:30 by the way the reason that small blue areas represents all of Virginia is because it makes up most of Virginias population.
Fellow Virginian here! I've been a Northern Virginia suburbanite for most of my life and couldn't agree more with your analysis. I love our state and am heartbroken that DC has overriden native Virginian culture. There is hardly a shred of Southern identity left in NOVA and what's left is being mercilessly erased, and this practice is spreading (e.g. Charlottesville). How can we turn the tide and preserve the beauty and virtue of our homeland?
By gutting federal beaurocracy
Y'all are flocking to Richmond too
Virginia will rise again.
As a native Virginian from the Hampton roads area, I wish we were more southern, however I.dont think that's what makes Virginia lame as a state. I've been to NYC, Houston.,Nashville, Portland(wouldn't recommend it now), Orlando, and other places in the country. All those places are more fun than anywhere I've been in Virginia or DC. There's a lot to do in this state supposedly, but if you're not into history, politics or being around the water, and have done some out of state travelling, it's probably going to seem boring. Even most of the people, while friendly most of the time, are just not very interesting to interact with usually unless they're from somewhere else. Virginia is just a bit pretentious for it's own good I think. If we could get some sports teams, decide whether we're northern or southern, and quit being so mid tier on everything that would help us.
Lmao you’re being so unnecessarily dramatic, there is plenty of “native Virginian culture” left in the state, so what if Nova isn’t the same as what it culturally was decades ago? Not all changes in Nova are bad and it’s really silly to imply that there’s no more virtue in the area’s population anymore just because things have changed. For example, I’d say moving away from a culture of racism and segregation, which, like it or not, has been part of traditional southern culture, makes the area *more* virtuous. Signed, a native Alexandrian
I don’t understand why people think a state’s boarders should reflect the ethnic backgrounds of the people who live in them.
These makes sense to some extent for small countries, but states are supposed to be bigger than small city states
Yeah it makes sense for a European country where people have lived there for centuries but not for the US, which was built to be diverse and take in people from everywhere.
You could make this case for just about any of the states with a major urban population. It’s called democracy, not segregated democracy.
Im sure he’s trying to copy israel lol
As an Appalachian Virginian. (For context I live in Washington County, on the Tennessee border) I will say some things, 1 almost everybody hates West Virginia, (because they are traitors, the irony is not lost on me). 2 Yes, we are the poorest part of the state, and something you neglected to mention is that the government in Richmond exclusively cares about the urban areas, ignoring Appalachia altogether. I personally am blue, however, so I have no complaints about the """Woke""" laws the state has, however my entire county hates them.
Combining DC and virginia into one state is an unrealistic idea because that would mean one state in the union has much more power than other states.
lets be honest we're all watching this from Virginia rn
I think its silly for states to be divided and unified based on current demographics. Demographs are changing ALL THE TIME, and we don't break up previous manufacturing states because the industry changed over the course of 40 years. There should be a referendum process for states to switch territories as wanted (such as with greater Idaho), but always using arbitrary demographics based on very malleable trends, would make border switches abysmally commonplace and complicated
This is like a diet version of how the austro-hungarian empire fell.
As a Northern Virginian this is true. I lived in Manassas which is basically nearly half Hispanic but travelling to literally Front Royal or Winchester feels really different (mainly in geography but so in terms of demographics)
Bro me to and I can confirm there’s a lot Hispanics here. I’m myself is Hispanic
Nobody who drew the state borders could see into the future.
I have two main issues with this video.
1. The racism and ethnocentrism
2. The idea that every single one of us NoVA residents is bureaucratic
Virginian here, and I want to give my thoughts; while the northern area having many seats seems excessive, there is also the point of population- rural virginia is rural for a reason. It is not nearly as densely populated as the northern areas. As a Fairfax resident, I also would like to note that the county governments have a lot more to do with general representation in the area, and we can even see in our own state governor the fact of the republican demographic being represented. There is certainly a large divide between the north and south of our state, and the population as a whole. Separating the state itself is an honestly bad idea. For one thing, the DC area was intentionally carved from two states, so to create a new state for DC and part of Virginia ignores the contributions to DC made by Maryland. Cutting up Virginia to add to different states doesn't solve our issues, rather it would make new ones and be horrendous to attempt to execute. You can see by most population density maps as well that the majority of Virginian residents live in the northern part of the state, and in fact our largest counties are some of the best in the country. To remove this aspect of Virginia is to ignore the fact of how many of our citizens alone live in counties such as my own. Virginia is largely democratic because of these denser regions. You claim to want to represent underrepresented Virginians, yet your solution is to make them not Virginians or remove a large portion of those who call Virginia home. Redrawing our districts is important and valid, but creating new states is downright impossible and would create a whole world of larger problems regarding our larger governmental sphere. It would remove US Representatives in our country's house and senate for Virginia, creating a worse outcome for representation as a whole.
Virginia went from being a dominant force inside the United States and even being a large contributor to the civil war to the state with Arlington
Population left the state, simple as that. Colonial to Civil War days it was one of the most populous states, then everyone left westward following the loss in the civil war, nowadays the only “drive” to move to the state is the hell hole that is Nova, or other federal jobs centered around the military in Norfolk.
Bro’s a Virginian and wants to make his state disappear 👍
bro we literally spawned the east fucking coast
Dude. This whole video is nonsense. Every person gets a single vote. There are more people in the cities, so they have more delegates in the Virginia House, but no one is oppressing the rural western districts. They got to vote. They have a delegate to represent their interests. Just as the people in NoVa got to vote and elect a delegate to represent their interests. As always, land doesn't vote. People do.
as a northern Virginian in regards to immigration it is VERY surprising that you did not mention the vast amount of Korean immigrants, my old high school was 33% 1st generation korean-americans
Lol. What the hell did I just watch? Takeaway: People who are different shouldn't live together.
I wonder if regions of neighbouring countries are dominated by commuters to Luxembourg in a similar way.
Well, you can definitely tell what part of Virginia you’re from. From the simple pronunciation of Appalachia. It’s appa-lat-cha.
this video is genuinely very funny to me, I actually love that the suggested course of action is to balkanize
The Valley and SW Virginia are quite different. I don’t think Winchester has much in common with Grundy.
Same with the Northern Neck and the Tidewater area. You can swim to Cape Henry from the NNK faster than you can drive it. And for what it’s worth, the accents are completely different.
As a resident of Winchester, your point is very much so true, I don’t think we have much in common with even Roanoke let alone Bristol or Grundy
@@cognitive7327 As a resident of far SWVA I agree, there is a significant cultural difference between us. The Shenandoah Valley is its own region with the Roanoke area acting as the grey zone between us. At least we both share the beautiful mountains though!
Solid points
Fits right in with your video about the partition of New York State, I guess that´d be good topic for what a total redrawing of all 50 States could look like 🤔
OMG
I live in Virginia and it not bad
If Northern Virginia split from the rest of Virginia, Virginia would no longer have the income stream it currently does, which could cripple the rest of the state.
And Northern Virginia doesnt control the entire state. If that were the case, it would be easier to pass a higher infrastructure budget in Richmond, and the roads wouldn't be so shit.
EXACTLY 💯
Im a northern virginian. I dont think virginia is all that unique in demographic differences between parts of the state. California, florida, new york, alabama, georgia all come to mine that have very different regional differences. Some Nova folks thinks its not fair that their taxes go to the south. I not sure if a state should change just because its been urbanized/suburbanized. I moved to mclean when Evans farm was shutting down and there was a lot of signs to save evans farm. That was probably the nail in the coffin of the old south in nova. Living most my life about 10 min from DC, I always felt dc and nova were very different. I went to college in dc (American university) and volunteer at the dc public schools. It is very much different school system. Gun laws, demographics, public transportation, crime rate, tourism, local businesses. While I would agree nova is distinct from the rest of the state, it's also very different from dc.
Some fun facts of our great commonwealth:
Va one of 4 commonwealths which is not have any legal distinction from states. Today 56 nations are part of the British commonwealth (including Canada, South Africa, Jamaica, India, New zealand).
Brands and inventions from VA include m&ms, chapstick, Phillip Morris (tobacco), mountain dew, street cars, fraternity (William and Mary), law school, mental hospital, peanut industry, five guys, AOL, CIA
Famous virginians: timbaland, Pharrell Williams, Missy Eliot, Chris brown, Jason Mraz, Sandra bullock, Katie Couric, Warren beatty, Rob Lowe, Allen Iverson, Michael Vick, bunch of presidents from George Washington to Woodrow Wilson.
Arlington County was named after Arlington house (Robert e Lee who was the son of Mary custis Washington offspring) estate. Now its the Arlington national cemetery since the Civil War. Arlington was the southern half of DC, voted to reintergrate into Virginia in 1840s due to likely abolishment of slavery in dc. Arlington is the geogrphically smallest county in US.
Number 7 prince William Co
Number 4 Fairfax Co
Number 2 Stafford Co
Number 1 Loudon Co with the highest medium income in usa. How Arlington is not on the list doggles the mind.
Movies set in va:
Pocahontas, Bourne identity, remember the titans, Donnie darko, mcgruber, incredible hulk, science of the lambs
Third most spoken language after English and Spanish is korean.
Falls church city is 2.2 square miles big! Not part of adjacent falls church Fairfax County.
Loving vs virginia was 1967 case of white man trying to legally marry a black woman.
Carry me back to old virginny" was the state song until 1997.
Va has the only state flag with nudity. It bears Athena with her breast hanging out.
The Washington redskins camp and headquarters is in Ashburn Virginia. The Washington capitals practice facility is in Arlington VA (so was the redskins before ashburn). The home stadium was agreed upon to move from RFK stadium to Alexandria train yard in the early 1990s. VA governor Wilder and Jack Kent Cooke (redskins owner) made public announcement for the move and construction to begin. Alexandria residents fought to prevent the move and the organization reversed its decision and moved to Landover MD.
Suggestion: what If maximilian became Emperor after his brother was assasinated
Who?
@@johnnotrealname8168you do not know 😢
5:17 | Why is West Virginia called West Virginia, but Virginia isn't called East Virginia? 🙈
The funny answer is that its a fake state.
Actual answer is Virginia was there first and the western part split off during the civil war and decided to be West Virginia.
The rest of Virginia was not consulted about having west Virginia carved off of them and was unwilling to change their name as in their view there was no west Virginia, just land occupied by the Union.
As a northern Virginian, I have seen people in schools being bullied for having open right wing views. In the time I have spent in other regions of the state, everything feels so much different. The southern portions remind me of the Carolinas, and the west reminds me of West Virginia.
Also I don’t think you included loudon county in the northern Virginia. They are the richest county in the us and are all old white people
I am sure if you were a liberal kid in Southwest Virginia you would get bullied.
As a northern Virginian myself I think the current citation is perfectly acceptable
Agreed
Wtf bro you don't gotta do us this dirty man 😭😭😭
You already kind of played your hand about what your bias is talking about the colonial history of Virginia with no mention of slavery, and the Civil War with no mention of slavery.
Honestly I’ve sometimes heard people complain about how “nothing happens in Virginia,” but I hope it’s stays chill like that. Then again, stuff definitely does go down in VA. Stuff for I’m thankful for not having to experience tho sad that it’s a thing.
Honestly, the groups can exist together because they have for hundreds of years, not just in Virginia but across the counry. The issue is lack of representation, which could be solved by a referendum to have massive population centers be integrated as new states, decoupling the "rich men north of Richmond" from the "rural yokels" while maintaining the majority of their representation to the federal government.
States should not be divided up
As a Virginian I’d succeed before I join North Carolina
Do you mean you'd suck seed before joining NC?
as a virgina citizen, idk how you managed to make a whole speech on why this state is the best state 😭
We can say this same thing about California... the economic elites in LA and SF determine the outcome of a state the size of Japan.
Yeah, This doesnt work, Can you make another version of this without Fucking us over(Im a Proud North Carolinan Nationalist)
Then you don't know what your fucking talking about then
MrBeast Dictatorship Soon…
Here I thought I was gonna watch an interesting video as to why Virginia doesn’t make sense. Instead It became political 😂. Either way, both political parties suck.
I have a few gripes as someone who grew up in Hampton, VA and works in politics and city planning. Yes, VA is highly diverse with many differert regions varying socioeconomic statuses, economic drivers, and culture. And while it can by and large be split up into 4 [Eastern Appalachia, the Piedmont, Tidewater, and NoVa] and in a more 2-fold way the south and midatlantic, Virginia together serves as a microcosm of the nation at large as a literal border state between the north and the south. It as a WHOLE is what makes it unique, there's no need to chop it up.
Went kayaking from deep creek canal all the way down past dismal swamp, Elizabeth city, and almost made the decision to go to Georgia
That’s BA!
Can you do this with more states, or the whole country potentially?
Economically and culturally VA is a great state because it works like it is - don't mess with success. Politically it is still very much a purple state with the Governor
(from NVA) being a republican and the VA house as even as you can get. With the next election, local elections can go either way. It works economically as NVA is the tax generator and the basis for prosperity for the whole state. Cut it off and the rest of the state will suffer greatly. VA has the diverse regions and this is its strength. Its not "weird" in that its pretty typical of most states. Take NY state or PA for example - most of these states are rural with one or 2 big cities that dominate the states economics and politics - but serve as cash cows for the rest of the state.
Yet another proposal to transfer political power from people to land
All of Virginia has come together in a a grand harmony to dis this video
Roanoke was in what is now North Carolina
In terms of modern geography, yes, but it was in the Colony of Virginia, which was, at that point, the only English colony in North America.
Virginia would be better off if they abolished slavery following the Nat Turners Revolt and the freeman population repatriated to Liberia. This would have so much benefit for Virginia and thus make the state greater than it ever has been before. Industry and so many jobs would become available encouraging Americans and European immigrants to migrate to Virginia. Virginia would have a larger population and the South as a whole would prosper and industrialize if they abolished slavery as soon as possible and repatriate their former slaves to Africa. They would be entirely homogeneous and new jobs & housing opportunities would be provided for Whites and European immigrants who would be enticed to work and settle in the South. So the Upland and Deep South wouldn’t be as impoverished and badly neglected as they are today.
And Germany would have been better off if Weimar Germany didn’t vote for Hitler
Imagine a industrialized Virginia General Lee would have never been forced to fight for the confederates imagine Lee and Ulysses fighting on the same side 💀
@@parrotconservative General Lee himself advocated for the reparation of slaves to Liberia. His Virginia and the South would be able to industrialize easier and lands would be opened up to further development, resource extraction and new housing & industries.
@@nickhueper2906 There is more than that such as the fact that many political parties failed to even stop the NSDAP. Also, it was the largest party in the Reichstag, so they were fucked either way.
Abolishing slavery and moving white people out of the state would accomplish the same thing. But you had to do a racism.
Middle class white dude here. I moved from NoVa further South in my 20s. Was absolutely shocked at the racism. Seriously, it’s bad, and only in a way that anyone will admit if you are “one of their own”.
I was raised believing that racism in our country is overblown and a mainstream media illusion. It’s not. Believe me a Lot of people in south VA are capital R racist. I later moved to Alabama…. It did Not get better.
Maybe you should spend time around bl@ck folks. You'd understand why we want nothing to do with them....
I grew up in Richmond. I didn't realize how racist it was in Virgnia until I left and came back. I thought what I had experienced growing up was normal. I learned otherwise. Still Love the Commonwealth, it's my home.
The only problem is that DC is constitutionally prohibited from ever being a state. So any plan to carve off pieces of Virginia and Maryland to better reflect demographics would result in a state split in two by DC.