Iain McGilchrist & Isabela Granic: Intergenerational Wisdom for a World Unravelling
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- This conversation is part of an online seminar series taking place in the Spring and Summer of 2023 bringing innovative thinkers into conversation with Iain McGilchrist to explore his philosophy as laid out in The Matter with Things. www.amazon.com/Matter-Things-...
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Attention is a moral act.❤
Thankfully, we have all of you to learn from.
Our children come through us, we don't own them.
We have to spread these works of Dr. McGilchrist's books and these discussions to all we can. Affectionately, I love you all.❤
I am so happy that the algo keep on giving me the opportunity to get into Iain thoughts, lots of beauty in it. Much love to you Iain.
Thank you all. Cheered me up to hear that the young people are aware. I agree with Iain McGilchrist about the gap 'year'. I left school at 15 with one o' level in English which I took a year early (I believe my beloved English teacher knew I was going). I started at university when I was 33 years old & studied English with Related Arts & left with an upper class honor's degree. For most of those years I was a single mum to 4 children. The best 4 years ever! The most important thing that I learned was that I didn't know anything. Humility I suppose.
Interesting to consider that Rudolph Steiner's, Waldorf education is in essence a system that nurtures and preferences right hemisphere development in children
I was so grateful my children could have a few years at a Waldorf school where each day began with singing. Nothing is more spiritually nourishing than people coming together to sing.
Thank you for a stimulating discussion.
It's such a joy to bask in such brilliance.
After this I watched Russell Brand and Iain McGilchrist which was a real roller coaster. Absolutely brilliant, really shows McGilchrists skills in a new light.
Where is that conversation? I can't find it
@@SensemakingMartin I'm not surprised you couldn't find it and I'm not sure how I did! It's called........... "PROOF! | We’re Killing Ourselves! - #118 - Stay Free With Russell Brand"
We need an accessible handbook for general use for university students. I could easily see how, for example, Dr McGilchrist's work could be integrated with my Literature courses. Plus animated/illistrated podcasts etc.
This is another great conversation involving Iain. I adore the spontaneous chemistry that erupts out of the interaction between this very necessary thinker of our times and the professors who are to some extent in his wake
I'd love to see an interview between Iain and Matthew David Segall, a Whiteheadian scholar and professor. If you haven't seen the recent interview between Pascal and Segall on the Integral Stage, I recommend it.
Again great conversation, as always with Iain McGilchrist!
Superb conversation. Well done all!
I heard not to long ago that we Shepherd children, we should not Engineer them. I am a school teacher and a lead. I am deeply passionate about Iain’s work and the education system we sustain; it’s fragmented loss of connections, because it’s basis is built on a factory, industrial process driven. The administration level is out of control but we are also loosing the connection to what it means to be human. I also agree there is a huge disconnect from our ancestors who understood the balance and connection between things. Children are not machines so why mechanise their experiences?
Worth listening! Obviously a big fan of Iain's work. Great question from one so young at 1hr and 20 - v revealing.......everything has it's limits!
Wonderful talk
Hi @Perspectiva,
do you happen to know to which 10 min cartoon Iain McGilchrist refers at the end of the video? Would like to watch (and also the series, if it comes out). Thanks in advance!
Win! Dr. McGilchrist uses the phrase "the shit hits the fan" in a dialogue!
The man knows a thing or two about words to say the least.
Good to see you Ian!
Iain
I think Iain’s comments about science are valid in a functional community of scientists. Imho the science community is the most captured by the left hemisphere. For example in the UNHERD interview with Iain, he mentions that some scientists producing good science are ejected from the community without even having their work assessed or reviewed. They jump to bad conclusions when anything comes forward outside the common scientific paradigms and ‘shoot’ the messenger.
Fabulous thank you 🌻 would love to hear Ian and Rupert Sheldrake have a chat 😁 that would be something else 🌟
czcams.com/video/4O3ITKAG4_8/video.html
You are in luck as they have spoken, it's on CZcams !
Iain McGilchrist is onto a deeper truth than I can say and you can hear...
26:00 AMEN Dr. McGilchrist!!!!
So many wonderful points! I just wanted to echo Isabela's concern re how we may surrender and lose so many of our capabilities if we outsource them all to AI--this isn't a concern I've heard discussed much, though I was happy to hear Christine Rosen (a historian and senior fellow at AEI) at a panel on AI hosted by Heterodox Academy last night also bring up this very point.
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I think it ties in well w/ Jeffrey Griffith's recent work.
Thanks very much for this. Could I ask please what and where I can see the cartoons that were mentioned towards the very end of the conversation?
Coincidentia oppositorum is also what is known as "The Middle Way" in Buddhism. We are immortal, never born so we never die. However, and equally true, our life is defined as the trip between the maternity ward and the crematorium. To live with a vital consciousness of these two things is "The Middle Way." Should never be confused with "moderation" which is something else entirely. BTW, in the field of time, all things are dual....
Are the comments during the q&a private in comparison to CZcams? Or are the questions floating about here somewhere, plz and thank u.
Hi . .does anyone have a link to or know the name of the animation/cartoon that Iain was talking about at the end? Thanks
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if they want to reach younger people perhaps they could suggest reading a book or two by Alan Watts, wh0 was saying much of the same thing 50, 60 years ago...
Re: "Language" in all domains ~25:00 -- is this *possibly* an opportunity in the era of the poltics of personality? Could it be that politics begins, again, to express itself in poetry and symbol?
surprised no mention of waldorf education!
8 minutes before the show ! UFB.
Pray
It is NOT that we don't have the "detection system to detect the nuances because of an over emphasis on left brain dominance " and it is NOT the problem of language per se but rather appropriation of language/articulation used by the compartmentalized left brain dominant cultures. Basically, the latter because we are perpetually in a phylogenetic adaptive orientation of mobilized hypervigilant sympathetic-adrenal arousal (i.e., defensive fight/fight responses) or parasympathetic dorsal vagal shutdown/withdrawal and/or dissociation. The forgoing accompanied excesses of vasopressin, cortisol and epinephrine rather than our ventral vagus parasympathetic social engagement system (which would be accompanied by oxytocin, dopamine serotonin). The latter NOT to be titrated! Translation: We need to slow down and feel, imagine and engage.. We need to FEEL vis a vis the cultivation of the foundations of both neuroceptive and interoceptive safety.
Social media is a problem, but this material reduction thinking was a problem long before the internet. If middle & highschools trusted thire students to find meaing in there studying at that time...instead of being micromanaged constantly, they would be ready for university out of highschool....trust is essential for adolescent to find their way.
🐟 15. SUFFERING & HAPPINESS:
DISTINGUISHING SUFFERING FROM PAIN, AND LIKEWISE, HAPPINESS FROM PLEASURE:
To understand the nature of suffering, it is ABSOLUTELY imperative to first distinguish suffering from pain (and also, happiness from pleasure).
There is a spectrum of pleasure and pain, with an extremely narrow neutral mid-point. Obviously, what constitutes a pleasurable or painful experience is dependent on an individual person’s unique preferences. Not everybody likes the taste of chocolate. The feeling of pleasure/pain does NOT, ultimately, come from any external stimulus, believe it or not. It is located entirely in the mind and/or the intellect. That is the reason why highly-advanced spiritual adepts are able to renounce practically all pleasure-seeking activities, content with consuming simple foodstuffs and adequate sleep, and find continuous peace, happiness, and joy, within themselves (“ātmarāma” or “sva-sthaḥ”, in Sanskrit).
Furthermore, the adjudication of whether a certain experience is either pleasurable or painful for a particular person can VARY according to the context. For example, one may have enjoyed consuming dairy products as a child, but as a *vegetarian/vegan adult, find the taste of putrefied milk (cream, cheese, yoghurt, butter, etcetera) to be revolting. For one who is literally dying of starvation, the consumption of bitter melon or cactus leaves may seem to be rather pleasing to the senses, even though, in normal circumstances, they may be quite distasteful.
*The term “vegetarian” is used literally here (see the footnote to the final chapter of this “Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”).
THE THREE KINDS OF PLEASURE AND PAIN:
There are THREE kinds of pleasure/pain: physical, psychological (i.e. mental/emotional/intellectual), and financial.
For instance, consuming one’s favourite kind of fruit is physically pleasurable. Being hit on the head by a falling coconut - physical pain.
Listening to a favoured piece of music is an example of psycho-emotional pleasure. Being angry at another person - psychological pain.
Winning a game of chance (such as a lottery) is an example of financial pleasure. Being robbed of one’s cash or belongings - financial pain.
The reason why financial pleasure/pain is not classified under the category of psychological pleasure/pain is because when a person experiences either a loss or a gain in his/her finances, it does not NECESSARILY result in a feeling of pleasure or pain. For example, in 1993, a violent criminal organization, known as the Australian Federal Police, literally stole an enormous sum of cash that I had laboriously collected by conducting alms rounds as a monastic priest. However, upon being informed that my money was to be confiscated by that evil organization, I had absolutely no negative feeling whatsoever. I was perfectly at peace with the situation, something that surprised even myself! However, the loss of my funds was, by definition, painful in the sense that it decimated my bank balance, and I was forced to repeat the months of alms collection, in order to pay my bills and to fund my first pilgrimage to Bhārata (India). So, it was financially painful but not emotionally painful.
THE THREE CAUSES OF PLEASURE AND PAIN:
There are three origins or CAUSES of pleasure/pain: one’s own body/mind (“adhyātma”, in Sanskrit), other persons/animals (“adhibhūta”, in Sanskrit), and material nature (“adhidaiva”, in Sanskrit). Hopefully, these categories are self-explanatory.
Some “suffer” pain from lack of money. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of wealth.
Some “suffer” pain from lack of food. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of food.
The quality of the “suffering” is different but the NATURE of the “suffering” is the same.
OBVIOUSLY, in the previous paragraph, the term “suffer” is used in the stead of “experience”, because that is how the word is used in everyday parlance, in order to draw attention to the fact that pain can be due to an abundance of material opulence as well as a lack of material wealth.
GENUINE SUFFERING:
GENUINE suffering, on the other hand, is the result of mistaking oneself to be the author of one’s thoughts and actions, and other persons to be fully in control of their own thoughts and deeds.
There are five forms (or symptoms) of suffering - all PSYCHOLOGICAL in nature:
1. Guilt/Shame
2. Blame/Bitterness
3. Pride/Arrogance
4. Worry/Anxiety
5. Regrets about the past and expectations for the future/Attachment to outcomes (i.e. being inattentive or negligent to the present moment)
LIBERATION FROM SUFFERING:
Suffering can be COMPLETELY transcended by understanding its origin and consciously avoiding its manifestations. For example, as a child, your mother may have been particularly violent towards you. As clearly demonstrated in the chapter dealing with free-will, her violence was wholly due to her genetics and societal conditioning, neither of which were under her control. Blaming your mother for her actions leads to psychological anguish, which can only be cured by focusing on the undeniable sense of “I am”. In other words, by resorting to one’s essential nature (knowing one’s innermost being to be Pure Consciousness, identical with the entirety of existence), one is emancipated from all sorrow.
The initial feeling of anger towards your mother was a natural reaction to her violence, but the enduring resentment is existential misery. Any physical pain you may have experienced was just that - pain. That pain is not to be discounted, but it has probably faded-away into the distant past. The psychological distress or torment that you are currently experiencing is the ACTUAL suffering, and it can easily be negated by a proper attitude to life. When we contemplate painful past events (or possible future events) those thoughts occur, ostensively, in the present. It is simply not possible to experience the past or future - only the present moment and the thoughts and feelings of the present are experienced. Therefore, it is important to understand and acknowledge that suffering occurs solely in the present and that it can be cured with mindful practices. It is beneficial to also consult a qualified psychotherapist on a regular basis, in order to slowly heal from such mental angst.
When a man kicks his pet dog, the dog does not spend the remaining years of its life being angry or resentful towards its master. Dogs have very little concept of past, present and future, but live their lives from moment to moment. How unfortunate it is that all other species of animals (with the possible exception of the very highest mammals, such as primates, and cetaceans such as dolphins and whales) are naturally more at peace with their circumstances than we highly-evolved human beings! Even if several of the more advanced species of mammals experience some of the five forms of psychological suffering, it does not seem to PERSIST in the same way as it does for human beings. For example, I have met individuals who, after more than half a century, still have repressed bitterness and/or anger towards their parents, due to events in their childhood. In one case, an elderly woman who had an unsatisfactory relationship with her father during her childhood and adolescence, regularly evokes resentful thoughts in her mind on an almost-daily basis, despite the passing of about six decades! Unfortunately, when I tried to explain to her the process by which she can become liberated from such mental anguish, she exhibited disinterest, sad to say.
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REGARDING FREE-WILL:
On a rather personal note, even before I fully grasped this teaching (and when I was a Theist), I sent the following message to my second ex-wife, which illustrates my understanding of her actions: “I want to assure you that I have absolutely no bitterness towards you WHATSOEVER for persecuting me. You are simply carrying-out the orders of your perverted, ignorant mind, and I pray that my Master forgives all your wicked thoughts and acts. My own heart is completely free of anger. I pity you and look forward to the day when you finally turn from sin.”
However, it took me a number of years before I fully realized that this concept (that a person’s behaviour was simply the product of their mental state and that one can never controvert their current psychological nature) was a demonstrable scientific fact. This came about by diligently studying the scientific system of religion known as “gnosticism” (“jñāna yoga”, in Sanskrit) described in the next chapter of “F.I.S.H”.
When one fully imbibes the understanding that life is completely and utterly preordained, and that no living creature has individual free-will (see Chapter 11), one has no choice BUT to quit blaming, shaming, worrying, being prideful, and being attached to the results of one’s actions. Deep peace and happiness arises naturally as a consequence. Obviously, the understanding of the non-existence of personal freedom (as well as all the other concepts in this Holy Scripture) are also the result of destiny. The unfortunate fact is, even though unqualified peace is available to everyone, particularly in the current age (due to mass communication), very very few human beings are destined for it.
THE BASIS OF TRUE HAPPINESS:
To put it very succinctly, true peace/happiness is simply the TRUE self. When the five forms of suffering come to an end (by liberation from the belief in individual agency), only unbroken peace of mind remains. It is completely independent of any temporal circumstances whatsoever.
The common belief that happiness originates from sensory or psychological pleasures is an outright falsehood. One can eat only so much chocolate before the pleasure turns to pain. Even a man who fucks hundreds of beautiful women will eventually tire of his sexual conquests, and attempt to seek satisfaction by another means. “Pleasure” is often conflated with “happiness”, as is the term “pain” with “suffering”. It ought to be noted that there is a rather blurry line between psycho-emotive pain and actual suffering, so any confusion is understandable.
Regarding sexual attraction, it is important to understand that when a person is attracted to a member of the opposite gender (or, in the case of homosexuals, when a person is sexually-attracted to a person of the same gender), he or she is NOT really attracted to the other for the sake of the other, but in fact, is attracted to the other person for the feelings evoked within oneself. Of course, the same paradigm applies to other sources of psycho-physical pleasure, such as eating food, watching television shows and motion pictures, viewing artworks, and listening to music. The lesson to be learnt here (as already briefly alluded to in a previous paragraph) is that actual pleasure, satisfaction or contentment is inherent to we humans, and once we have fully realized this fact via sincere metaphysical enquiry, we are then able to abide in the peace of our essential nature, without the need or desire to pursue external pleasures as ends in themselves. That doesn’t imply we ought not eat delicious food or listen to nice music, but that we should, in fact, seek sensual pleasures as an accompaniment to our already content lives, and if that sought pleasure does not eventuate, we are not at all disturbed by its absence. Unfortunately, such self-satisfied persons are extremely scarce. Hopefully, this fact will not deter anybody from pursuing true happiness - even a small measure of progress is noticeably beneficial!
THE THREE KINDS OF PLEASURE ACCORDING TO THE THREE MODES:
There are three kinds of PLEASURE, according to the three modes (“trī-guṇa”, in Sanskrit) described in Chapter 18 of this Holy Scripture:
Pleasures in the Mode of PURITY (“sattva guṇa”, in Sanskrit) are those pleasures that seem to be difficult or hazardous in the beginning but prove to be sweet or enjoyable in the end. For example, studying medicine for almost a decade at university can be rather stressful and taxing, but once the student graduates and begins his career as a physician, he experiences the pleasure of being a healer to his community and earning a considerable income. Drinking neem-leaf juice may taste extremely bitter, but it often results in an improvement in one’s health.
Pleasures in the Mode of PASSION (“rajas guṇa”, in Sanskrit) are those pleasurable activities that are enjoyable in the beginning but turn to pain in the end. For instance, most everyone enjoys eating a slice of chocolate cake (or sweet tropical fruit, for those who are health-conscious) but the more of the cake one consumes, the more painful it will become, due to indigestion, bloating, and/or sugar-poisoning.
Pleasures in the Mode of DARKNESS (“tamas guṇa”, in Sanskrit) are those that are toxic from beginning to end. For example, sleeping is a state of nescience (of daily life) and from the time one falls asleep to the time one awakens, one is prone to being attacked by one’s enemies. Over-sleeping often results in lethargy. Smoking tobacco can also be considered tamasic, since ingesting smoke is toxic, and cancer may ensue.
THE FOUR “GOALS OF LIFE”:
Humans have FOUR objectives, aims, desires, purposes, or goals in life (“puruṣārtha”, in Sanskrit [lit.: “objects of human pursuit”]):
1. PLEASURE (“kāma”, in Sanskrit) includes all forms of sensual stimulation that provides a positive feeling in the mind of any particular individual. Thus pleasure-seeking is a legitimate aim, provided that it causes no undue harm to another living creature or to the biosphere.
2. PROSPERITY (“artha”, in Sanskrit) is seeking wealth in the form of real property or money, again, providing it has no detrimental effect on oneself or others (in other words, a legitimate means of accumulating wealth). Here, “legitimate” is used in the etymological sense of “lawful”.
3. RELIGIOSITY (“dharma”, in Sanskrit) signifies behaviours that are considered to be in accord with established universal principles, including duties, laws, morals, virtues, and righteous living. Read Chapter 12 onwards to become acquainted with the principles of religiosity/dharma.
4. LIBERATION (“mokṣa”, in Sanskrit) is freedom from suffering, as previously defined, and is considered to be the most noble of the four goals. This was traditionally interpreted as emancipation from the cycle of birth and death (“saṃsāra”, in Sanskrit) or soteriology (“going to Heaven”).
As one goes through childhood, one naturally seeks sensory pleasures. As one enters adulthood, one starts to seek methods of acquiring material wealth, whether that be serving an employer, embarking on a mercantile enterprise, or seeking marriage to a well-to-do suitor. If and when one becomes disillusioned by pleasure and/or wealth, one makes enquiries into self-improvement and religious systems. When none of the former objectives provides the definitive peace and happiness that we humans are ultimately seeking, one FINALLY aspires for liberation.
Of course, there is no reason why ALL four objectives cannot be accomplished simultaneously. A truly-enlightened sage is fully comfortable in seeking pleasure (without going to undue lengths to achieve pleasure, and without being attached to the pleasures themselves), gaining sufficient wealth to meet his material requisites and the needs of his family, engaging in religious festivals and other dharmic activities (even if he has transcended all dogmas and rituals - most persons enjoy partaking in major religious festivities) and, of course, being liberated from the cycle of birth and death (or to be more accurate, from the sense of “doership”, which is, as explained, the origin of all psychological sorrow).
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CONCLUSION:
In summary, it is important to regularly keep in mind that this life of ours is very brief (FAR shorter than we may care to consider), so we ought to carefully examine the precepts in this Holiest of All Holy Books and, as far as humanly possible, put them into practice in order to find the true, unadulterated peace that we are all seeking. How I wish that I had discovered this highest wisdom much earlier in my own spiritual journey!
This is notwithstanding the fact that freedom of volition is non-existent for any living being in our universe (or any other possible universe). These teachings are simply an addition to the lifelong socio-environmental conditioning that the reader has experienced so far in his or her life.
“The animal does not have to face the kind of problems that oppress man and which are created by the operation of the intellect.
An animal’s sense of consonance and dissonance, affinity and antipathy, is intuitive and in-built as conditioned reflex, rather than subject to the complex interference of ratiocination, by which man is not only aware of his perceptions and actions, but also thinks about them.”
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“Pain and pleasure exist for animals, but it is not a problem for them, because the animal does not regret the past pain or fear the future danger. He lives in the NOW of nature. It is only the human being, who concerns himself with imagined opposites, which has a problem.
There are, in fact, no opposites whatsoever, except as concepts, produced by the imagination.”
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“It is impossible in life, to have the pleasure that is wanted, without the pain that is not wanted.
They are, in fact, mutually interdependent, and therefore, inseparable.”
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“One does not experience suffering - one suffers an experience. One who is aware of his true identity does not and can not suffer.”
Ramesh S. Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
“Suffering exists, but no sufferer can be found.
Actions exist, but no doer of actions is there.
Nirvana exists, but no one who enters it.
The Path exists, but no traveller can be seen.”
“Visuddhimagga” 513.
Venerable Buddhaghosa,
Indian Theravada Buddhist Commentator, Translator, and Philosopher.
“When you squeeze an orange, you get orange juice, because that's what's inside.
Similarly, when someone squeezes you (puts pressure on you) what comes out is what’s inside -
and if you don't like what’s inside you can change it by changing your thoughts.”
Doctor Wayne Dyer,
American Psychologist and Self-help Author.
“Relaxation is what you ARE.
Stress is what you think you SHOULD be.”
Chinese Proverb.
“When you want something more, you can’t enjoy what you already have.”
Mr. Peter Betts (AKA Ajahn Brahmavaṃso),
Abbot, the Buddhist Society of Western Australia (in fact, a working-class fool who is LITERALLY stealing the occupation of an actual brāhmaṇa, yet the accuracy or the value of any statement or any opinion is independent of the holiness of the person making that statement).
@@mrmarveloustheunicorn.4292, kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️
Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱
@@mrmarveloustheunicorn.4292, I am patiently awaiting your response to my question, SLAVE. ☝🏼
Incidentally, it’s called “Spell-Check”. ✅
Look into it, SILLY Sinful Slave. 👨🏻🎓
Simply meaning, " Get off the cross, we need the wood."
I am the world. The world is me. We all are connected by the heart.❤
Can you imagine an AI memoir?
Sounds like a Phillip K Dick novel lol
I am a big fan of Ian McGilchrist and always enjoy listening to his insights, but there is something about all this that makes me feel deeply uncomfortable. The soft corporate edges. The very name Perspectiva. The excessive use of polysyllabic neologisms across all of the associated websites. The fact that when I follow links to the main website I immediately run into an international banker and another individual who has consulted for the WEF. An overarching presentation superficially all about transforming the world - an inherently revolutionary act - that abuts rather awkwardly against slick logos, oversimplified soundbites and associated individuals who hold positions within the same old, same old corporatocratic order that is in the business of ruining life and the planet. You don't have to be a Marxist (and I'm not one) to smell something fishy.
Indeed...agenda relay station?..you bet.
It's obvious that you are a BIG fan of his, since you cannot even spell his name correctly. ;)
What a load of utter post-joint, paranoid nonsense.
very well said...good points
I certainly think your instincts are well founded. That said, it needs to be said that we are at a stage where the dismantling of the corptocratic Leviathan is increasingly hard to imagine without abutting to where the overwhelming concentration of resources are as a practical matter. In this realm of ideas maybe a purer path can be carved, but even here the infrastructure and algorithms involved in disseminating ideas and content is at the heart of a sophisticated system of cooption. In the 90s it was described as "cultural jamming" (i.e. Rage Against the Machine signing with Sony BMG).
To be clear, not disagreeing, nor damning whatever associations are in place with Perspectiva etc al. In fact, in the nature Based food/ag tech realm where I work, my first reaction to a WEF or finance associated, polished vibe is to be suspect immediately like you.
But worth noting that at a practical level infiltration and the moral hazards it comes with seem to be a part of any positive trajectories, again simply based on how completely the tentacles have permeated and greenwashed every nook and cranny of our lives and how wildly disproportionate the resources ate concentrated in this dystopian superorganism.
Oliver Twist? Betweenness and willing to give it a go?
Magellan between here and here? Circumnavigation! But can it get silly? Tea at Lords?
A.I will be the next scapegoat
Is that a sofa or a couch missus?
Problem, reaction, solution -- the Hegelian dialectic.
Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic.
The Hegelian dialectic is dual if it is dependent and independent of time both at the same time -- duality.
From a converging, convex (lens) or syntropic perspective everything looks divergent, concave or entropic -- the 2nd law of thermodynamics!
All observers have a syntropic perspective according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
My syntropy is your entropy and your syntropy is my entropy -- duality.
Mind (the internal soul, syntropy) is dual to matter (the external soul, entropy) -- Descartes or Plato's divided line.
Convex is dual to concave -- lenses, mirrors.
Your mind is syntropic as it creates or synthesizes reality (non duality).
Concepts are dual to percepts -- the mind duality of Immanuel Kant.
Concepts are syntropic representations built from perceptions or measurements -- category theory.
The Einstein reality criterion:-
"If, without in any way disturbing a system, we can predict with certainty (i.e., with probability equal to unity)
the value of a physical quantity, then there exists an element of reality corresponding to that quantity."
(Einstein, Podolsky, Rosen 1935, p. 777)
Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy:-
www.iep.utm.edu/epr/
According to Einstein reality is predicted into existence -- a syntropic process!
"We predict ourselves into existence" -- Anil Seth, neuroscientist, watch at 56 minutes:-
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Making predictions to track targets, goals & objectives is a syntropic process -- teleological.
Physicists ignore the mind, but all observers have a mind which is syntropic.
The observed is dual to the observer -- David Bohm.
"Always two there are" -- Yoda.
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Not sure if she gets it. Trying to create such movements is probably as left-brained as they are trying to help with.
The problem is how you're maintaining the detached level of conscious perception Iain debunks in opening lines of chapter 3. As the myth of modern rationality detached from the continuous cosmos perception of our wisest ancestors. With our failure to recognise how Women give birth to History & Teach the Mother Tongue of our make-believe sense of reality, as nothing more than names. Please re-read Plato's Sophist dialogue & contemplate what he says about the origins of names in the context of Mother Africa.
Jesus, why does everyone on this channel dumb McG into a near quarter-hour of silence, before... anyway....
The McGilchrist manoeuvre? Are you pulling your own leg Johnathan?