A&P : Airframe Update
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Update on my finishing airframe portion or school.
Also i would like to know how you all are progression in school
or thoughts about joining or advice for those who are already in is always welcome
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Way to go, congrats on passing Airframe. I start school in 5 weeks!!! Appreciate this channel!
Thanks! And good luck on your journey ✈️
Hey bro congrats on passing your airframe exam big relief I’m sure…thank you for the updates and all videos very informative I recently joined AIM about a month ago here in Dallas,TX I will definitely make use of your advices on how to study and pass exams. Keep up the good work my friend.
Just finished my general Qualifier / FAA out the way. Now next is airframe. Almost there. Studying like crazy but it will all pay off in the end when we got the license in our pocket. Keep grinding!
Looking forward to starting at AIM here in Chicago! Yes, they have finally built a campus here in the CHI!!! I'm so excited about this new career path I'm on. Just subscribed to your channel and keep grinding bro. One love!
Nice, I’m excited for you. Good luck on ya journey as well & thanks 🙏🏽
Thanks for the update g. Im still on the gen and pp rn. Those are my gateway test to my final quarter. Its NOT fun studying it. Stressed out also! Good luck my dude!
No Prob! And it’s definitely isn’t fun but nice keep at it! I also added a site for practice exams you should check it out 👆🏽
Awesome Bro! Hang in there!
Passed my airframe written today.Oral and practical next thank you for sharing your experience with us.
Hey, Congrats man you definitely on the way! Get some flash cards & study up 🙏🏽
its always interesting to see how different schools do it. my school has an agreement with the faa where they let you take the gen and airframe o&p a month before you're done with airframe classes if you've maintained a 3.5 gpa in the program. so actually take your writtens afterward. i feel like its easier that way. good luck with your o&ps! i feel like oral is the hardest. i'm studying now and feel very overwhelmed. so much to remember!
Do you mind if I ask what school you attend? Bc I love the sound of that. Being able to airframe ahead of time. At AIM, atleast my campus the only thing we do is the general after you get your waiver, otherwise they make you wait until capstone or literally the last block (5weeks) till you can take the general oral/practical/ the airframe oral/practical/written/ and powerplant oral/practical/written. And bc of this very few ppl graduate with their A&P. Id say out of the 10 to 15 students 2 will get it. Its just too much to study for and there is no way someone can try and relearn and remember everything over the last 2 years in just 1 block. But the way they design the curriculum here, its completely random, no flow so you bounce from pp to airframe stuff and none of it builds so you end up forgetting alot bc you may never touch on it again until 8 months later. k
@@mmaviator22 No problem. I went to Chandler-Gilbert Community College in Gilbert, AZ about 30 mins outside of Phoenix. I always recommend community colleges, you'll pay so much more at AIM for essentially the same education. It's all the same, standardized by the FAA. I actually stopped after I got my airframe since I got hired by the FAA to be an Air Traffic Controller and I'm in training for that right now in Alaska lol.
And yeah, the curriculum at my school is in blocks so you'll take your general classes first then your airframe over two semesters. In your last block of airframe classesa couple weeks from the end you can sit for your gen and airframe o&PS if you that gpa. Then after your last airframe class is finished you take the writtens. Next semester is the same setup with powerplant. I can't imagine doing it the way you say AIM does it, you'd have to be extremely motivated. We're all motivated but damn that's too much. 🥲
@@kibibisiri7782 Bro it seriously is fucked. Then we have the fact we're working on 50 or 60 year old aircraft/parts and outdated technology that in no way is going to help us in todays modern jet world. Im in block 7 and in 9 days will be in block 8 (block is 5weeks) and 95% of the projects have been GA related. The only actual jet projects we've done is basically looking at an APU that didnt even work and taking a cpl things off and explaining what they were. That and we went out and looked at a not running (of course) PT6 and its FCU and rail, nozzles etc. But thats it for jets. Obviously there will be a turbine class were we rip apart a alison 250 but thats not enough. And for the money, 3,000 per 5 week block = 51k they make it seem like you'll get a decent, not the best, but a decent job with the A&P but the truth is were lucky and get our ratings all it means is we're allowed to work on aircraft but dont know shit. And for 51k I dont like knowing that I'm not going to "know shit" when I get out into the field. And the thing that sucks is there is no other school in central florida, unless you want to go to some no name little pop up shit school ran by ppl who dont speak english and are there just trying to steal ppls money. Its really disheartening seeing all the shit they put in our way and how screwed up AIM orlando does it and how most of it almost feels like its designed to make us fail.
@@mmaviator22 Jesus! That's freaking terrible! And $51k?! My god, I couldn't do it. I chose a&p because I knew I'd be able to do it affordably and I would be able to pay back the investment in a couple of years. I can't really say that about $51k. My whole education including tools, if I had stayed for powerplant, would've cost $10k. And you're in Orlando. In cocoa, fl which is only 30 mins from Orlando there's a community college that has an a&p program. whole thing would cost less than $10k since florida public colleges are so inexpensive. I'm originally from there and I was going to move back, I wanted to do the space technician program they have. Eastern Florida State College. I wouldn't call it mom and pop lol since it's a state college but they are similarly organized to the one I went to (I checked since I had considered transferring at one point). If you haven't even gotten to the point where you finished airframe I'd say transfer and leave AIM behind. Look at the program the college has and see if it'll be a better fit, at the very least you'll save $40k.
@@kibibisiri7782 yea I still have been weighing my options. I've always been a space nut and was really wanting a job with space x or ULA or something. I've even been thinking about getting a aerospace engineering degree. Alotnof places will give you 2+ years of credit towards 1 ifnyou have an a&p which is the only reason I really was considering staying here at aim. I'll have to look into that school, thanks for the advice!
I’ll be attending the new AIM location in Chicago this Monday. I’m a new sub 👍🏾
Nice!! That’s a nice new facility. congrats to you and thanks 🙏🏽
Yo dude it's me Javi from school. Didn't know you had a channel lol glad things are going well.
Also where did you schedule your a and p exam? I don't know where the office is and i want to schedule my general and airframe soon.
Ayee wassup bro. And The oral ? It’s in the airframe hanger up the stairs.
@@Avation.Experience ah ok do you know if they have a certain time to schedule? Or are they there most of the time?
@@fireraid2336 no not really just head up there and get with a dme. Ron don’t have anything until august but that’s filling up so get up on that. But there’s others
Keep up the hard work , it will pay off . You working @AA ?
Thanks will do! And No, that’s actually from piedmont since their under American
Get it bro! I got 67 but I kinda gave up. I'm getting ready to take a week long crash course and get my ticket
I love the energy! Keep in touch let me know how it goes! Good luck
@@Avation.Experience For sure man!
I passed my general and I am getting ready to take my airframe in few days.
Nice, Congrats!! 💯.
@@Avation.Experience you’re welcome.
@Meli d I can be mixed with questions not in the test guides
hey brotha , I passed both general / airframe not long ago and I'm getting ready for the oral & practical. were all the oral questions straight out of the jeppesen study guide for the actual exam? thanks man
Yeah they were well atleast for me. But I say ask your dme what’s best you study. Mine told me jeppeson
Hey my brother, I love your videos and it's helping me prepare for my A&P . I'm in Africa and I am not exposed to training centers like the US. How do I get into contact with you to guide me on my journey. I have 6 years of OJT in Aviation.
I'm looking at a&p schools. Doing flashcards and reading books I can get ahold of.
I am a student at AIM and our campus has some issues. I've notice alot of ppl are unhappy with the curriculum and feel that for the amount of money we spend every month that it doesnt justify what we learn and get to do. I'd say that there are projects we do but there is so little hands on and mostly classroom theory stuff or power points and videos. And all the tools are old, cheap, alot are busted up etc, and the parts are all old as hell and beat up as are the few planes we do have which almost always are missing parts or components when you try and do your project or whatever. That and the amount we get charged for shop costs is insane. Alot of older students, said even in learning riveting and welding, that you barely do anything but they charge crazy money for expendables. That and they have their deficiency rule, were if you miss a day you have to write a 3000 word paper, and if you miss 10 seconds you technically get a deficiency for 15 mins and thats a 125 words. And Ive noticed most of the ppl towards the end of their program all seem unhappy with what they learned or not for that matter and Ive noticed most graduates dont get their a&p. I'd say on average from what ive seen over the last 7 or 8 months, maybe 2 to 3 per capstone get their tickets. And I think 1 of the major issues which other schools like embry riddle do not have, is that our idiots up front will schedule you for all the general classes, which makes sense and after you finish the 4 general block you move on and its completely random. You will be in classes with students about to be in capstone and sometimes class is going on and you have no idea what is going on bc you havent gotten there yet and then they completely randomize the blocks like you will go from general blocks to block 8 (airframe systems 1 hydraulics, pneumatics etc) to block 14 power plant systems 1, to block 6 etc. There is no flow to it and so you forget so much bc as I said unlike ER and alot of other schools, we dont do Generals, then say all airframe classes and then do all the pp blocks and as a result of this the curriculum never builds upon itself and from what ive seen most students forget everything bc they no longer use any of that information until a year later when maybe they go to pp 2 or something. Then I could get into the money part, 51k for broken old tools, cheap old parts usually missing components, broken planes that barely run, always running out of soap and paper towels and other nickle and dime things etc. Alot of students feel taken advantage of, the only saving grace are the instructors but they can only do so much with the curriculum they have but as far as actually skills, most ppl learn very little and all this school is doing is teaching theory and classroom so most graduates get to the field with so little actual hands on experience. Thank god for me, I am 1 of the few older students with years of hands on experience with automotive and other household stuff. Im just curious if youve had similar issues or seen similar things are your campus. Oh I almost forgot, we have broken old tools and shitty run down planes and parts but they just got a lear 25! And theyre really trying to push that and act like they do so much. Instead of us getting a learjet 25 that nobody is ever going to really get to work on we would much rather have indepth projects every class actually learning instead of in pp2 just taking apart a carburetor and reassembling it and then removing an oil pan. Paid 3k that block to basically only do those 2 hands on projects that took no time at all. Its just disheartening but I'm using dauntless aviation ground school every day and focusing on getting those ratings, after which I'll never look back at that school.
Which campus are you attending ? I went to aim Phl started in 2019 and it was pretty cool the missing time and writing questions was a bit of a hassle but I used that time to actually read and learn from it for class or for understanding prepware so look at that as 2 birds in one stone. I do agree on the tools and projects can be Alittle better and I feel most of those are more for general aviation side of things. The money I do admit is fairly pricey but they way I looked at it was that was my only option due to my area. Most people don’t know you can talk to the person that makes the changes to what class you would like to do. For example I finished general classes and most of my airframe got to my last airframe class in order to be eligible to take my airframe class but of course they threw me in a PowerPlant class. I sucked it up and finished it anyways still studying for airframe (prepware) and current class (prepare reading and going over class notes) passed that and they were going to put me in another PowerPlant than I had enough n spoke to someone and they put me in the class I needed (last airframe class to be eligible) I finished that and passed the test. Towards people not getting their a&p everyone different most people are trying but just don’t get it right n just stop trying and others actually do what they need n study. But I do agree the school can be stressful and times we need to take matter into our own hand and teach ourselves. In some classes when I started general I felt like my teachers some* didn’t give me the info I needed so I studied on my own went to teachers to get understandings on things after school, got my preware read explanations and taught myself and passes the written. So personally you gone deal with what comes worth the school but let’s be real with some teachers you gone have to teach yaself in cases but it’s definitely doable.
@@Avation.Experience Orlando. And I definitely understand. The thing that is annoying is that I already am a handy guy, working on cars here and there for years and house hold repairs so I enjoy it and can tell that these new ppl who are green really are going to graduate with very little actual skill other than what they can remember from classroom instruction, the theory I guess. And your right, I'd say 90% of the projects we've done so far, and I am in my 7th soon to be 8th in 9 days and its all been GA stuff, and nothing in relation to jets. And considering todays modern world, only touching 50 or 60 year old outdated technology kinda makes alot of us feel taken advantaged of as far as literally spending 3k per 5 week block all the while not really gaining any actual hands on experience. Its disheartening, Ive actually considering applying to an internship, or just a regular job at the airport to get experience. As somebody who always scores between 90s and 100s, I dont see a problem for myself being able to study and get my ratings but I feel for the students who arent as good at taking tests or remembering things as easy as I can. But Im happy to hear youve gotten your stuff done and will keep watching your videos, thanks bro!
@@mmaviator22 yeah i noticed guys mechanically & military inclined do pretty well with understanding things normally on the powerplant side. guys that dont understand it tjats where studying on ya own n reading helps which most people dont like to read but yeah thanks i apricate your output
@@Avation.Experience I appreciate the advice and videos, im glad to see youre making it happen. I just wish they would let us do all the gen classes then airframe and let us take the tests and move on to pp like most other schools I checked into do. For our capstone classes theyre literally studying for gen o&p, airframe o&p and written and pp o&p and written and all in 1 block. How can anybody realistically study for that many things and only have 1 block to prepare. As I said thats why only 2 or 3 get their A&P on average. But Ima stick with it!
@@mmaviator22 nice definitely because it’s possible! As we see. Good luck!
Still in school doing AMT any advice brother ?
Read what you don’t understand not just the explanation prep ware limits you to. And don’t be afraid to get extra help outside of class hours it pays off. Good luck on your journey!
It’s ridiculous how they have our school going
We have a final every month at AIM and then you still need to be studying for airframe/Powerplant. Generals test you only get asked 60 questions out of 750!!!! People are busy!!
Life work/kids. Something needs to change.
Doesn’t need to be easier but should be more questions.
Airframe and power plant give you 100 questions
It’s easier to focus on one thing at a time General/airframe/PowerPlant. You may be out of general on to airframe classes haveing to still study general. Focus on class first (prepware reading) and set time aside to go ver general prepware again once section at a time. And don’t be afraid to take the written when you feel like you studied all you could for general get the ball rolling even if you come up short. You’ll know what you strong and weak at. Good luck!
@@Avation.Experience I did and and failed 🤣🤣 it’s now been two months and taking generals again this coming up Thursday!
@@4k_shotz505 lol hey Going in for my2nd PowerPlant attempt we gone get it . Have you studied the codes from your failed report and studied them in the jeppeson book ?
@@Avation.Experience yup I was getting 85-90’s now I’m getting 89-99’s on practice test.
@@4k_shotz505 oh that’s good definitely go for it. Good luck bro!
why do not you study at Groundschool software. That is a good software for passing written test.
Isn’t ground school mostly Canadian based preference.
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Yo will I appreciate you and look forward to your vids. I'm still studying the ASA books you sent me. Mainly I've been in the math section because if you can re member I am already a pilot and Owns a Mooney m20 series. You give great real advice brother. God bless and congrats on passing your test. I actually failed my ground school test with a 68. The FAA kills me with the trick wording lol but I studied for a month and next time I got an 85. I see the confidence and character growing. You're going places bro!! Peace from Mississippi
@@houstontexas5486 I appreciate the input! And glad to hear you kept with it. Congrats on passing!
I have messaged you on IG Please check and do reply brother
Hey, I don’t see it shoot me another.
@@Avation.Experience i did please check