Canon EOS R6 vs R: 20 MP Photos downgrade from 30 MP? Video? Full Comparison Review
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- In this video, I'm talking about what has become my favorite camera to come out in the last year: the Canon EOS R6 and comparing it to the camera I've loved for the past couple years: the Canon EOS R. I'll look at where the R6 is an upgrade from the R and address what might be a downgrade. I'll also address the elephant in the room: 20 vs 30 MP.
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00:00 Intro
01:02 Camera Specs
02:57 Ergonomics & Handling
06:36 Photography
11:46 Video
19:28 For Whom is it Right?
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I appreciate the informational density of this video. Thank you for putting million sub energy into your channel, glad i found you at 3k!
Thank you, that’s greatly appreciated!
Great video mate,very informative! My r6 is arriving next week and I’m so excited. I spent all day today watching your videos 🙌
@@JustinMyersPhoto I bought the rf 24-105 f4L to start with. It seems its a very underrated lens!
Great vid, Justin. As you know, I only shoot stills, so I’ll stay with my R. Oh... Glad to see that you’re over the 2K mark.
What an amazing content. Full of information! Thanks
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video! the AF system is what sold me to the R6. It's phenomenal!
Thank you for a cogent and clear comparison between the two. Great job. Super helpful.
Glad you found it helpful! Are you using either of these or looking into using one?
@@JustinMyersPhoto Yes. Mostly likely an R6. It seems like it checks most of the boxes. Wish it had the top screen of the R.
@@RichardBO9 I agree, I like that top screen! But the R6 really is an awesome camera. What type of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
Great job comparing both cameras! Probably the best and most detailed i've seen on comparing these 2. :)
Thanks! Glad you liked it! Do you shoot with either of these or looking into them?
@@JustinMyersPhoto Hi Justin. I'm currently looking at purchasing either the R or the R6. I think i'm leaning towards the R6 because of the IBS, 4k at 60 fps, and the joystick.
@@xradrd both great cameras! I think it depends on: what you shoot, and what lenses you already/what budget you have for lenses.
What type of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
very nice comparative review. subscribed.
Glad you enjoyed it! Are you shooting with or looking into one of these cameras?
@@JustinMyersPhoto im using a dslr. still researching about these cameras.
@@EasyArtforKids okay cool, which DSLR are you shooting with at the moment?
This video is amazing. Thank you for the effort.
Thanks for checking it out!
Damn fine comparison
Good stuff bro 👍🏽
@@JustinMyersPhoto I own both, I like the feel more on the EOS R over the R6, The EOS R has more of a premium feel over the R6. The high frame rate is the only disappointing thing for me on the EOS R. The final image on both cameras are Gr8...
Received my R6 about 2 weeks ago and really love it. Auto focus is really strong, although I'm still using my Ef 24-70 F2.8 L and 70-200 F4.0 L. Haven't had a chance to really test out the electronic shutter, but the mechanical fps is a big upgrade for me as I shoot mainly action subjects. Ibis is also a big help as due to my age my hands aren't as steady as they used to me. Maybe next year I'll sell my EF and go to RF lens. The main thing for me is that I'm really happy with the results so far. The R and even the RP are fine cameras, I just needed higher fps. The R6 may be the last camera I'll ever buy!
Yeah...till they release the next big thing and you tell yourself " I don't need it...blah blah blah " then after 2yrs you feel like you're being left behind...like SD, HD and 4k quality
@@JustinMyersPhoto True that...but at the pace these manufacturers are going against each other to stay on top, consumers will be made to keep wanting more...cos we are never satisfied. Imagine Panasonic release the Gh6 with 8k, 100mp photo, 4k@240fps, 2K@480fps new "tri-autofocus" beast making canons dual auto focus look like 1970s and no overheating, non stop shooting with extended battery life and priced at $4500...tell me how many will be able to resist...
Sir, Thank U Very Much for the Very Educational Video!
Glad you found it helpful!
Is there a way to keep ON the 3x3 grid or electronic level while recording video? These stay on until the moment i press the record button, then disappear. My videos keep coming out with a tilted horizon. Thank you
Nice video man!
Thanks! Are you using or looking into these cameras?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I'm thinking about purchasing one of them and your video gave me a good feeling that I can comfortably settle for the R :)
@@drek5740 okay, awesome. It’s a great camera! What kind of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I typically shoot a combination of night-time street photography and short 5-10 minute videos that I edit with a 2015 MacBook Air. Don't do much in post in terms of color grading, I mostly just put stuff quickly together in iMovie and it suffices for quick and easy content. The reason I want the R is to create a short series about what it's like to work at a tech startup for fresh college graduates. So I want something that will be able to keep focus on my face, while having a file that will still work on my aging laptop. Also, being able to use the camera for street photography would be a huge plus. Currently shooting with the 5D classic and seriously craving more ISO performance. Also saw your video comparing the RP to the R, but the RP just feels too small and finicky in my huge hands(!)
@@drek5740 gotcha. Well, with the pricing of the R right now, it is a very good price for how much you get from the camera, and that will be a night and day difference coming from your 5D (a great camera in its own right). I mean honestly they could both be used for what you’re wanting, but if the cheaper one can do it too, why get the more expensive one, right
great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m definitely picking up the R6!!! I’ve since picked up the budget 85, 35 and 50mm lenses (thanks to your reviews). Can’t wait to pair them with that R6.
Great detailed review.
@@JustinMyersPhoto loving them. Really getting more into portrait photography and re-launching my YT. Just curious, have you had the chance to check out the RF 70-200????
@@JustinMyersPhoto not yet, but it’s on my radar to purchase. I’ll probably rent it first.
Hi Justin. I have watched this video many times, and it has great information. Concerning the eos r, is it good for parties and receptions with people dancing. Thanks in advance.
It’s all kind of relative, right? I do think the R is good for events, I’ve shot a lot of events with it. However, it doesn’t have a second card slot, if that is important to you. The autofocus and lowlight are also definitely much better in the R6, which is useful in those situations. Again, I do think the R is good for that, but if receptions and dances are a large part of what you shoot and you shoot them professionally and are making money from that, it might make sense to spend the extra for the R6, depending on your budget.
What are you shooting with now?
@@JustinMyersPhoto Thanks for responding. I .shot Canon originally. 2018 I sold my Canon 5D Mark3, I kept my L lenses. I have been shooting the Sony A9 with great results. 2021 I got a good deal on the Canon Eos r, great for still photography. Other than that it’s slow. I also purchased another Canon 5D Mark3. The Canon colors is hard to duplicate. I believe my next purchase will be a Canon R6. From the reviews I like the functionality.
@@kennethhart4859 okay gotcha. Ya, I agree. If you’re happy with the R, but wish it was faster with better autofocus, lowlight and features, that is the R6
You can change modes on the R6 without looking at the dial. Look at the bottom left corner of your viewfinder. You'll see the modes displayed there as you turn the dial.
Yes, but that is showing you what you’ve already changed. With the R/R5/R3 you can see your choices and choose where you want to go in the viewfinder. I own both cameras now, and like I said it’s just a different way of doing it, but I definitely personally prefer how the R/R5/R3 do it vs the physical dial on the R6.
@@JustinMyersPhoto oh, I see what you mean now. I never noticed that the R gives you a tiled menu when you press "mode". I've owned that camera for lord knows how long and I am just now noticing that!
@@n578md2 haha nice! That’s proof of why this kind of stuff is so preference based. You have it and don’t even use it, I miss it when I don’t have it lol
You got a new subscriber 😎
@@JustinMyersPhoto I´m a proud owner of the R6 and I love it! Greetings from Germany! Are you from Germany, too?
Hey. Just wanted to clarify something. If I am filming in both cameras in 1080, will the files for the R6 still come around as H.265 files that are harder to process quick? Coming from a content creator who wants the cool features of the R6 ( IBIS and 1080 120 fps ) but quick output time on 1080p shots really takes priority here. Thanks in advance
If you are shooting in C-Log or C-Log3, the video file will automatically be H.265, regardless of resolution. However, I have not had trouble editing the 1080 H.265 files. I often shoot with the 1080 H.265 files for quick turnaround work.
If you are shooting in any of the built-in color profiles in the camera, the video will automatically be H.264 regardless of resolution. So, there are several options to streamline the workflow with the R6.
Hope that helps and thanks for checking out the video!
I’m just starting out with wedding videography and travel vlogs for CZcams, with a little bit of personal social media pics as well. My wedding videos will all be under 5 mins. Can’t decide between the R and R6. Anyone have any advice/opinions for this type of content?
Hello Justin, Thanks for the informative comparison video. I learnt a lot and I really appreciate you. Just I am wondering if R can be the same in quality and performance as 5D Mark IV? can you help me with the answer. Thank you again and God bless you!
The image sensor in the R is the same as the sensor in the 5D Mark IV, so the image quality is very similar. The R actually has a newer processor than the 5D IV, so the R actually has slightly better image quality, especially at higher ISO values. But overall, the images between the R and the 5D IV are very similar.
The main difference would be features between the two cameras, such as burst photo rate, eye tracking, optical vs electronic viewfinder, memory card types, etc.
R only has one card slot. 5D4 has sd and cf which is better for weddings.
@@impact20twenty Thank you for your kind answer!
@@JustinMyersPhoto Thank you so much for the detailed answer!
Hey Justin, great review video, this is the first of yours I've seen and I will say I am subscribed now. I'm not sure if you are still answering comments since this video is 7 months old now, but I wanted to get your input. I'm currently looking to upgrade my camera body, and initially I was star struck by the R5. Realistically speaking, it costs too much for me right now and I am comparing the R and R6. My current body is the Rebel T7 that I've had for 2 years now. I shoot primarily landscape and in low light, typically under the shade of trees, but I am thinking I might try experiementing with portraits in urban settings. Do you have any suggestions between the two cameras?
I think both cameras would do very well for those use cases. The R6 will have the advantages that I spoke about in this video, such as lowlight performance and dynamic range, but that’s not to say the R isn’t good in those areas as well.
My suggestion is that it would be better to save some money on the camera body and use that money for better lenses, if you don’t already have some good quality full frame lenses to use with these cameras.
Do you have any full frame lenses already?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I first bought the Tamron 18-400 F/3.5 super zoom to see which focal lengths I primarily shoot at, and then I bought the Canon EF 50mm F/1.4. I'm not certain, but I think the Tamron is an APS-C lense, while I think the EF is actually a full frame lense, so I'm using it as a 85mm on the Rebel. Using the RF adaptor the 50mm would be my primary lense.
@@danielthompson6607 okay gotcha. Yes, that Tamron is an APS-C lens, the 50mm covers full frame like you said. So, I would definitely suggest you save money on the less expensive camera body and put that towards high quality full frame lenses. The R with the 24-105mm f4 L right now costs a little bit less than just the R6 body and that is a fantastic lens with a very versatile zoom range. If you want to stick to EF lenses, I still adapt and shoot with my EF Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 Art lens, you can find these used in excellent shape for about the same price as the EF 24-105mm L lens.
In the end, you will see a much bigger difference in image quality from having quality lenses on your camera vs getting a slightly newer/more expensive camera body, so I would suggest investing in lenses first and foremost
@@JustinMyersPhoto That is a good point, so then I will have an upgraded body over my Rebel with some L series glass. That combo alone is miles ahead of what I currently have.
I'm leaning towards getting the R for sure now. I forget that the lenses that are used are just as, if not more important than the camera they're paired to.
Thank you, I appreciate your input👍
@@danielthompson6607 any time! Hopefully, it helps, good luck with your purchase, and in any case, I hope you enjoy it!
Considering the R6 from my current EOS R, thanks for this...mainly just for my sports school photography day job. The 5 frames per second vs 12 fps is something I am strongly considering
If faster bursts of photos is important to you, it is definitely night and day from the R to the R6
The biggest downer for me about the R6 is the composite plastic body compared to the sturdiness and the rigid weather sealing in the EOS R. (I know they are both weather sealed though) but I’m a freelance photographer who really doesn’t care about ibis and do a lot of weather inclement photography since I live near damp woods and take my camera a lot near beaches and I don’t get the white scuffs that the R6 gets. I know R6 is great specially in low light but I have done very good with my 30mp. in the past without it so.., if I could afford having both I would definitely buy it (R6) but if I just have money for just one, then I would definitely save a little more and invest in the R5 though.., the resolution in that one is really amazing..! And I take that into consideration because from time to time I do weddings. In my personal opinion I really would say if you can afford the R6 get an R and save the extra money for investment in lens.., (again, in my personal opinion) 😉
Ya, it just depends on what you need and want from a camera
Hey, love the video!
One question, Dynamic Range for raw pictures are comparable ? I want one just for photos....
The R6 blows away the R when it comes to dynamic range. R6 photo files hold so much detail and color in the shadow, the R cannot compete with that.
What kind of photography do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto nice to know about it! I do fashion and food photography, and now I’m using a 5dmkii. It’s not my main work, video is my thing. And I use a bmpcc6k pro for it
@@pikix I’m actually releasing a video on the 5D II tomorrow. The R6 (although the R definitely as well) is such a huge upgrade from that in every aspect.
What kind of video do you mainly shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto yes I know, just saying I have an old camera lol, and I’m just taking some pictures so I’m considering the R. I shot artists and small companies.
@@pikix if you are shooting fashion and food, you’re probably shooting with strobes or some kind of lighting mostly, and not particularly worried about faster autofocus and faster burst shooting? You might also benefit from some extra resolution, depending on what your work is being used for. If you’re shooting with strobes/flashes, the dynamic range isn’t really going to come into play either.
So, the R might actually be a good option for you. Anytime I’m shooting photos in a studio environment, I tend to prefer the R over the R6
Thanks for that very interesting, but I still cant make up my mind. Here in the UK the R6 is a grand more than
the R that money could buy another lens. I'll look at a few more reviews before I finally make my choice.
Ya, I would really suggest renting the two and seeing what works best for you personally.
What kind of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
That was really good. I haven’t heard before that the R6’s files are more compressed. I really want to go for the R6 but the 20mp and NOW the “slow turn around time” make me unsure about it.
So, the more compressed files is specifically when filming in CLog/Clog3. Anything else would be the same as on the R.
I don’t think most people should worry about the 20 MP either, unless you have a very specific need for high res work, in which case the R likely wouldn’t be enough either.
The R6 is a very capable camera and will meet a lot of photo/video hybrid shooters needs very well.
What kind of photo and/or video do you typically shoot?
Oooh, got it. I am both a videographer as well as photographer.. I don’t have specific niches yet but I’ll be needing a long term professional camera and the R6 has many things I’m looking for in a camera.
@@matthewhein333 it really is a great camera. What are you shooting with at the moment?
It looks amazing! I’m on my first one still, the canon SL2
@@matthewhein333 that’s a great camera! I used the SL2 for a long time and a lot of professional work. Still have it actually. What lenses do you have currently?
i have the RP and i have been looking hard at the R6 ..this is very helpful .. keep wondering about the RP mark 2 that is coming in 2022 ..im not a pro .. just love great pictures and video
The RP is an awesome camera as well! If you don’t mind me asking, is there a particular reason you want to upgrade from the RP or specific features that you’re needing?
@@JustinMyersPhoto The RP is my first full frame camera coming from a M50. what i most would like is IBIS full frame 4K with DPAF , 120fps 1080p animal eye detect and a better EVF. everything else is good.
@@treverbrandt1531 gotcha. I mean, of course the R6 has all of that. I would be surprised if the RP replacement had all of those things though. You have to cut cost somewhere to make it less expensive, but I honestly don’t know any details about what could be in that camera if/when it comes
Thats why i'm looking hard at the R6.. but if they has less then pro level RP mark 2 that hit the price point of $1400 to $1700 with some upgrades like i mentioned that would be perfect.. im good with the smaller battery and one card slot.
@@treverbrandt1531 ya, it will be interesting to see if they stay with the LP-E17 battery to keep the compact form factor
Great video because these are two cameras that I am really considering (possibly the R5, but probably not because it's way too expensive). I shoot photos of trains that travel between 0mph and 70mph mainly and post them on Instagram (occasionally landscape photos too, but 90% of photos are trains). I do not use that burst mode and I shoot in auto focus mode. I've been using a T6 for about three years now and the photos aren't as crisp and clear as I would like. I doubt that I will shoot any video with the R6 (if I bought it) because I have an entry level computer that probably couldn't handle that 265 deal that you mentioned. Any thoughts on what way you would lean with the R and R6 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and have a good weekend.
Well, I think either of them would be way more than capable of handling what you would need from them. And since the R is cheaper and you’re not looking for video, I might lean toward the R solely for budget reasons.
What kind of autofocus settings are you using on the T6?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I just have it set to autofocus, so it chooses for me. I tried the manual mode and bombed with blurry pics. Thanks for the suggestion on the R. I can't believe how expensive these RF lenses are.
@@Atsf1976 yes, the high end RF lenses are pricey, so the price difference between the R and R6 might help you with that. Keep in mind that you can also adapt EF lenses to the RF mount and they still work really well
With the T6, you should be able to use autofocus, but manually select the focus point that you want to use. That could be a part of why your photos aren’t as “crisp” as you’d like them to be
@@JustinMyersPhoto Now I get what were asking. I think that I usually have the center point or the nine points selected for my autofocus. Someone recently told me that I shouldn't shoot with a kit lens either, so I'm also having that debate. It's awesome to have choices though and I know that I'm sticking with Canon. Thanks for you help.
@@Atsf1976 yes, I think lens upgrades will probably make a more noticeable difference in image quality in a lot of cases
Awesome work mate! I'm realy on the fence between these two cameras. I'm mainly a portrait photographer and I tend to use strobes, but I also do weddings/events/product/landscape (a little bit of everything). Right now I own a 6D mk 2 and some L series glasses (16-35 F4 L IS, 24-70 F2.8 L II). The huge deal breaker for me is the autofocus capabilities of the DSLR. Anyway, which one of the two cameras do you recommend?
Well right off the bat, if you’re shooting weddings, the R6 is probably much a better option for the two card slots alone. It also has better autofocus and tracking, faster photo bursts and better high ISO performance.
I do think that both are great cameras (I currently own both). If the purchase is something you plan to make for professional use, I would highly suggest renting them and seeing which you prefer
@@JustinMyersPhoto Thanks mate!!!
@@Eduard0Marques no problem!
you can use an atomos ninja v to get 10 bit 422 footage from the normal R and use a metabones and canon speedbooster to nullify most of the 4k crop which makes it useful still for hybrid shooters who own a R but are considering an upgrade to the r5/6. While most people may not have a ninja, its a pretty important tool that id still use on the r6 to shoot native prores footage on a 1 - 2tb ssd rather than internal memory card
That’s definitely a fair point. Of course, you’re still limited to 4K 30fps or lower with the R. And now that the R6 finally has C-Log3, that’s a big differentiator that the R6 doesn’t have. And by the time that you add the price of ninja V and a speed booster with the R, you’re at or above the price of the R6.
No hate on the R, that’s still my main camera and I love it. But if someone is specifically looking to shoot 10-bit full frame on a mirrorless camera though, I would definitely suggest to go R6 vs R.
But if you already have the R like I do, it definitely is still a very capable camera.
What kind of video do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto For sure! c-log 3 would definitely be important to have & the improved AF for video too. Had a few missed shots on my R but its better than fujifilm AF which finds ghost squares to lock onto. I already had an eos R i use for work (mainly stills) so the only upgrade path for my kind of work is the r5 since 20mp doesnt cut it for stop motion/product and commercial interiors unfortunately :(
I do mainly stills tethered to a computer for 10 hour sessions turned on constantly with AC power. Heard some people have overheating issues with r5 tethered which is a concern for agency shoots but for video mostly 1 hour wedding ceremonies and interviews so the R + Atomos with unlimited recording works really well. Have you had any issues with overheating outdoors? or if you were to shoot photos non-stop (tethered session) if it ever has an overheat warning if left on for 4-5 hours at a time?
@@kranskeh okay cool. I did not experience any issues with the R5 or the R6 overheating while in stills mode. They both also have a specific setting that can be turned on in the menu that protects the camera from overheating when not actively shooting the highest quality video for each camera. When this mode is active, the camera will actually be cooling down when not recording 8K or 4K60, etc.
Again, I haven’t had any issues with either camera overheating in any way while shooting stills. If anyone has, it’s possible that they did not have the overheating protection settings turned on in the menu.
I downloaded some raw files from both, used ENHANCE in Camera Raw, then output both to 45 MP. I actually couldn't tell a difference (in many cases, especially for portraits, the R6 enhanced file looked better than the R5's native 45 MP).
The only real things I don't like about the R6 is the downgrade in the body from the R (other than the controls). The R6 is a cheaper "plastic" body (vs magnesium for the R), and has no top LCD and the back LCD is smaller and lower res. For a camera that costs almost 50% more than the R, this is kind of nuts.
Nice. The R6 body is actually polycarbonate with a magnesium alloy internal chassis, which in terms of durability is actually a step up. I think the reason the R6 might feel less premium is actually just because less of the body is covered in the rubberized grip material than the R and R5.
I also would have preferred the top LCD display, but either side of that stance is controversial. All of those are really just personal preference things.
And keep in mind that the R was released at the same price as the R6, it’s just an older camera at this point. The original 1Ds has a way more premium body than both the R and the R6, but it can be found for a few hundred dollars. Camera bodies just lose value over time
Is there any difference in quality in 1080p video between the R & R6?
Thanks
@@JustinMyersPhoto thanks. I am learning videography presently. Hoping to take better photo and video footage when I go on Safari in Africa. I need to learn video editing!
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Canon80D but upgrading to Canon R6, after you successfully quashed my enthusiasm for the Sonys
Keep up the fine work. Your passion shows through
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I remain romantically linked to the EF 100-400 mk2. I’ll get the adapter at the same time
I was looking for a camera to compliment my 7D Mk II for airshow photography. Originally, I had my heart set on the 5D mIV, but changed my mind when I heard about the autofocus on the R5 and R6. As this will be my first full frame digital camera, I wanted to get the sensor on the R5 (big numbers are best, right). What changed my mind was the cost of the CF Express cards used in the R5, and by watching videos like yours, I realized that the 20 MP sensor on the R6 would be plenty for me. So today, I am off to the camera store to buy the R6, and with the money saved, I can also afford the RF 100-500 mm zoom!
That’s awesome! I think you’ll really enjoy that step up from the 7D II. What others lenses are you currently using?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I tried the 16-35mm f/2.8 L on my 60D camera about 5 years ago and since then I’m hooked on L series glass. I also have the 24-105 f/4 (my fave walk around lens), and with the 7D, I needed something a bit wider, so I bought the 11-24mm f/4 Fisheye. For airshows, I currently use the original 100-400 mm L. After today’s purchase, I will have my eye set on the 70-200mm, and the 24-70mm f/2.8. So many lenses to choose from, so little money. 😂 I also have an EF-S lens that came with the 60D. I loved its range and weight, but it had terrible big netting at the far 135 mm end. And of course, I did buy a “nifty 59”, but seldom use it. And I have the 100 mm f/2.8 macro.
@@ckrodger okay, awesome. Solid lens collection! That’s definitely the way to go: invest in lenses before upgrading camera bodies, well done!
@@ckrodger so you have all those lenses, but you don't wanna buy r5 because of the price of CF cards. That's funny.
@Koper to be fair, investing in better lenses will impact the optical quality of your photos. Investing in memory cards will not
Fuji user here. Was looking to switch to Full Frame format and my only options were Canon and Nikon. I was bouncing back and forth between Nikon and Canon until I decided to go with a mirrorless system. My budget was 2,500 USD for the body. The decision was onesided once I looked at mirrorless cameras, as Nikon offers the Z6ll body, which is not only better in almost every field (both technical and otherwise) and is also over 500 USD cheaper. The fact that the Z6ll is cheaper already had me sold but then the fact that it's also so much better than the R6, all for 500 USD less, sealed the deal for me.
So to anyone having trouble deciding between cameras in the 2,000-2,500 USD range, the Z6ll offers the most for exactly 2,000 USD. (Actually now they have some kind of a summer promo discount and the Z6ll and Z7ll cost about 250 USD less.)
It’s all about finding what works best for you!
ok for nikon but all these ef lenses will not fit the nikon lol and i am not feeling like restart a whole collection of nikon glas.
@@paulvanderhaegen761 ya, it’s really about finding the system that works best for you. If there was one actual best, it would drive all the others out of business
You've invested to a dying company,.
Very bad investment.
@@kenjiyamamoto423 Nikon stocks have gone up drastically since their "trip and fall" and keep going up by 2.4%> every month.
Hey mate ! What camera would you recommend just for photography? Cheers
Both are great photo cameras in their own right and at different price points. It really depends on what you need. What kind of photography do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I do my mainly take family pictures currently using m50 but really want to upgrade to full frame. But confused in all these options out there.
@@ashdep5489 well, one important question would be: what full frame lenses, if any, do you have?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I have 50mm 1.4 and 70-200 f2.8 but planning to buy from 85mm in future .
@@ashdep5489 well, I think both of these cameras would be more than capable of shooting family photos. So, I might suggest that, since the R is cheaper, you could use the price difference toward lenses
Doing eBay reselling to fund the purchase of the R6. Thanks for the reviews
@@JustinMyersPhoto just starting out filming my week to week fiascos but will be mostly geared around hunting. As for photos...people and landscape
@@JustinMyersPhoto as in subject or camera? Camera I’m using is the G20
@@JustinMyersPhoto correct
I'm moving from a Canon 90D to a Canon R6 Mark II, which I ordered, and I'm waiting for it to arrive.
I have a question for you. Would you recommend the R at a lower price to get me into the mirrorless system and purchase some good RF glass? This would allow me to purchase 2 R bodies, or should I stick with the R6 Mark II and use my EF glass with an adapter until I can get some good RF glass?
It really depends on what you shoot, how you shoot and what your needs are in a system.
So what type of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
And what EF glass do you already have?
@Justin Myers Photos, I haven't done any video work. I shoot mostly portraits and event gatherings, and I may have an opportunity for real estate.
I have 50mm 1.8, 85mm 1.8, 24-70mm f4 18-35mm f1.8 and 70-300mm f4.5-6
@@RichieColemanSr I do think it could be a good investment to get the R and some higher end glass instead of the R6 II. It might also be worthwhile to rent the R and shoot with it to make sure you like it
@@JustinMyersPhoto Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.
@@RichieColemanSr no problem, hope it’s helpful!
This video needs more likes.
Thanks, I’m glad you think so!
Bro 5d mark iv and and EOS R and r6 which one is best for wedding photography and long term use
It really depends on what you need and how you plan to use it. Typically, wedding shooters really want two memory card slots, so the 5D IV and the R6 both have those. The R6 is definitely going to outperform in terms of lowlight performance, autofocus, dynamic range. But they are all great cameras and you could probably get the 5D IV used for a really good price at this point.
I would really recommend renting them and shooting with them and seeing which one works best for you though.
What are you shooting with now?
@@JustinMyersPhoto r6 is just 20mp what about 5dmark iv
@@ma.ajigarkhan7540 do you need more than 20 MP for something?
The 5D IV and the R have the same 30 MP sensor
@@JustinMyersPhoto yes good to go for 5dmark iv
@@ma.ajigarkhan7540 well, that’s certainly a good camera, if you’re wanting a DSLR. Especially if you can find it at a good price used. Again, I would recommend renting first if you can and I would not recommend buying based on megapixel count unless you have a certain requirement based on a specific usage.
In any case, I hope you find the camera that works best for you!
Coming from a T8i, I wanted to upgrade to a 5dm4 or the R..but after doing more research the R6 had really been looking good...What's attracting me is the dual pixel lol autofocus 2 and the low light capabilities
I have both the R and the R6, and love both. What type of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto Portrait, Product, Events and even more street Photography
@@EdwardBliffin don't sleep on the R, cheaper and it's amazing in low light especially with lightroom denoise
“Pixel mania” drives me crazy. My first Canon digital was 20 years ago, the EOS D30, 3.1 megapixels and I regularly made 20x24 prints from the images.
Ya, most people don’t have a good grasp of their resolution needs and just see camera brands competing with higher and higher megapixel bodies, so the assumption often becomes: more MP better image quality, which obviously is not the case.
What kind of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I shot video and still product photography for Fujifilm Graphic Systems division in the early 2000’s. I had a portrait and wedding studio in New York in the 1960’s and 1970’s. I now shoot for pleasure. Family, wildlife, nature, landscapes, etc. I started with a TWR Voightlander camera when I was 6 years old that my father brought back from the war
@@ImagemakerAi wow, that’s awesome! So out of curiosity, what are you shooting on now?
I’m actually between the R and R6 to work as a content creator and shoot some cool videos for the website using my macro lens. Should I go for the R6 for better video content for website?
My boss gave me the budget and I just don’t wanna make the wrong decision haha
How much room are you leaving for lenses in your budget? That will very likely make a more noticeable difference in your online content
Though choice.
R5 would be perfect for me, but I am not a freelance photographer anymore and I work as photographer and retoucher for a photography studio, so I don't need top notch equipment to keep my production quality high, as mostly I do personal photography and video projects for my portfolio.
The skyrocketed price of the R5 wouldn't be justified for me right now.
That's sad, it's a monster, and that 8K RAW...
Owning a 5D Mark IV, I'd like to upgrade it as it getting old in terms of specs and features. Don't get me wrong, it's still a super camera even for professional use.
I'm considering replacing it as it's almost 5 years old for me, a little bit bulky, limited in terms of video capabilities compared to the R6.
If I have to choose, I'd go between EOS R and R6.
But the 20mp sensor downgrade doesn't go very well with stills photography, which is 80% of my personal projects. I mostly shoot jewellery, products and food, and the pixel count it's important for some aspects. I don't print or do any high end work for now.
I already work in a photography studio as a retoucher and photographer, full time, but on my spare time personal ADV photography projects are my main priority.
Although it's been a while since a I wanted to increase my video project, and the R6 it's perfect in that area!
Reasons I'd go for R6: sensor stabilisation, EVF, mirrorless (I've some old but very good FD lenses), UHS-II slot (just one unfortunately), size, recent (more support in the years to come, CLOG3, articulating display, 4K 60FPS, 1080 120FPS.
Downsides: 20MP sensor. Most of the time it's studio work with flashes, tripod, tether, products, jewellery, watches.
EOS R or R6? Only time will tell.
Feel free to give your opinion and advice guys.
Thanks!
My question would be: you said the Megapixel count is important for some aspects of your work. What aspects do you need a certain megapixel count for and what resolution do you actually need for that?
@@JustinMyersPhoto Hi Justin! Thank so much for your fast reply!
My main concern comes from having less pixel to crop from with a 20 megapixel image. Probably it would be okay for food photography, products but for jewellery, having a 105mm macro, you will probably crop the image as you can't get too close to the jewellery, otherwise it's going to reflect too much on it.
One thing is cropping from a 30mp image, another it's from 20mp.
I could get even closer to it but it requires extra work in terms of masking with tracing paper, to avoid any unwanted reflection.
A 150mm macro would be even better to keep the distance further away. But it's a niche of photography, I shoot them sometimes for few private and personal clients.
As per the rest of my work, 20mp is fine, target audience is on the internet, so it would be websites, social media, where the final resolution is 72dpi, essentially.
The 20mp count remembers me the 6D I owned previously, which I found wasn't very good in some situations, especially in the shadows and fine details, if compared to the 5D Mark IV.
It was the sensor design of the 6D AFAIK.
Maybe I should stop pixel peeping, but when doing usually high end retouch you start noticing this and that.
@@TheMash84 okay gotcha. So, yes you have fewer megapixels to crop in on, that can’t be changed. I will say though, that the R6 does much better capturing detail in the shadows than the 5D IV. I also owned the 6D and it was my main camera for a while. The 6D was a great camera and the resolution is the same, but the R6 blows the 6D away in terms of image quality. It also blows the 5D IV away in terms of image quality, it just does so with less resolution.
The R is also a great camera and has been my main camera for the past two years. I have also been shooting a lot of in-studio work and especially product shoots the last year and have been completely happy. That being said, the R is basically is a side-step from the 5D IV, not an upgrade. They both have the same sensor. The R has a newer processor, so it has slightly improved lowlight performance, but that won’t matter in studio lighting. It also has better autofocus and tracking, but again, not helpful in studio product shoots.
What features are you wanting from a mirrorless camera vs what you’re getting from your 5D IV?
@@JustinMyersPhoto Now I see your point and I truly appreciate taking your time for the reply.
Through the years I've learnt the total number of megapixel is irrelevant for the final image detail definition.
I mean, what's important is how much details and finest texture the sensor is able to represent.
You can have even 50megapixel, but if shadow detail and recovery, microcontrast and sharpness of fine details is average you just have a big file with "mushy" detail.
If R6 has a good and improved sensor over the 5D Mark IV, and certainly it has (I haven't check a R6 RAW yet, just to see the difference), 20 megapixel are totally working good for studio work as well, if the resolving power of the CMOS and AA filter is very good.
I don't have any chance to shoot multimillion campaigns with a medium format right now :-D
Said that, I'm steering towards the R6, as I totally agree with you saying that the R is a side-step and not an upgrade.
At this moment, being budget limited, I was considering the EOS R instead of R6.
But essentially, is just a marginal "upgrade": I have a EVF, a mirrorless system (I can use old Canon FD lenses, which are so tiny and light), a electronic stabilisation, slightly better low light performance
what driving my need to upgrade is: I want to use my camera differently. It's been long time since I shot videos for clients and for personal projects and I would love to start again. The EOS R has the same specs as 5D IV, so it isn't an upgrade at all.
I can't stand the 1.74x crop, even if sometimes it gives you the ability to use one prime lens with two different focal lenght.
To sum up, the following are the reason for upgrade (for me):
- EVF, mirrorless mount, Canon FD lenses
- Dual SD UHS-II card slots,
- Improved sensor and processor, better autofocus and tracking (derived from 1D X Mark III, right? Not bad)
- Video features: Canon Log 3, 10 bit internal, 4:2:2, 4K@60p, 1080@120p, zebras, focus peaking, and...
IBIS.
I have only L series primes with no IS right now. A stabilised body is a huge upgrade for me!
Only big downside... polycarbonate exterior body. I'm used to the coldness and sturdiness of magnesium.
BTW, did I get it right?
@@TheMash84 gotcha, well like you said, if those are the reasons you’re looking to upgrade (outside of EVF and RF mount), you’re not going to get those upgraded features from the R. I would say: it’s more of a question of how important are those features vs price of R6, or sticking with 5D IV
On a side note: I used to shoot with DSLRs, 6D and 5D series, and I personally don’t have any problem with the feel of the mirrorless bodies vs the magnesium of the DSLRs. That’s always going to be personal preference though
Have you thought about renting the camera and shooting with it for a few days to get a feel of how well it would work for you?
I currently own 6d mark II, it's not bad for taking photos, but autofocus is kinda sluggish sometimes, no IBIS, terrible dynamic range and video recording is basically non existent. I mainly shoot cars, looking to get into videography as well. Can't decide between R and R6. What I don't like about the R is 4k is unusable, and the thing I don't like about R6 is the price.
Both are great cameras and both would be a step up from the 6D II. If you are trying to save a few hundred dollars, the R is going to perform well and is also a great camera to get started into videography, learn to color grade C-Log, etc. The 4K is actually solid quality, you just have to think of it as an APS-C camera in 4K. I have made a lot of income for photo as well as video from the R, so it’s definitely capable.
Having said that, the video capabilities on the R6 are, without question, better. It does take understanding video though (exposing C-Log3 correctly, color grading Log footage, etc.) in order to get those better capabilities. Otherwise, the footage with the R6 will be sharper than the R, but not much else
The 4K crop on the EOS R killed me. Finally upgrading to R6.
That’s awesome! I get it, the video on the R6 is a huge step up from the R.
What kind of video and/or photography do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto mostly for personal vlogging / family home videos. I have a Ronin SC gimbal that I'm in love with. I've been using the EOS R with the EF-S 10-18mm... the lens if fine but really sucks at low light. My plan is to couple the EOS R6 with a prime 20mm for vlogging. Since the R6 has no significant crop should work like gangbusters.
@@mjsoukup Okay cool. If you’re just doing personal videos and vlogging, have you tried the 1080 on the R?
@@JustinMyersPhoto yeah 1080p works and looks well and good, but I want all the pixels :D
@@mjsoukup got it! Haha, hey if you have the ability to get the R6, it is an awesome camera, and like I said, serious upgrade in video from the R!
Can you turn off IBIS if you want?
Yes, absolutely. You can turn off IBIS if you need or want to
I have an 80D but I want to go to full frame. The R seems like a bargain at the moment and means can buy an L lens for the same budget.
It definitely depends on what you need it for, but if it works for you, I do think it’s a good value.
What kind of photography do you typically shoot?
14:01 handheld and mind sharing what lens? Thanks!
Yes, handheld with the RF 85mm f2, but I would advise watching my video review about that lens before purchasing it for use in video
Is it possible to grade 1080p 10bit files from the R6. Is the 1080p as good as the R.
The 1080 is better than the R. That’s what the 10-bit files give you: more information to grade and work with. Of course, that only applies when shooting in C-Log. When not shooting in C-Log, the 1080 is extremely similar between the two.
What kind of photo and/or video do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhotohybrid social media content. So 1080p is fine - only problem I've seen is the way the R6 switches from photo to video.
These videos highlight the problem. There is a sort of solution on the last video.
czcams.com/video/Sqt6j9eDTqQ/video.html
czcams.com/video/21LcdBUEclI/video.html
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7:15 (solutions?)
czcams.com/video/BL53LWoERoA/video.html
If you were shooting only landscapes & 95% of the time on the tripod would you choose the R or the R6?
Personally, I would probably say the R just to save that extra money towards lenses. I don’t think the upgrades like Image Stabilization are going to help in that situation and the R still takes great photos and will give a slight advantage in resolution.
The R6 does have better dynamic range performance. The R still had good dynamic range though, the R6 is just better.
What kind of lenses do you have to use with them?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I used to shoot Canon FF but a few years ago switched to Panasonic - I now shoot the S5 which is great for the video bits I shoot and is half decent for images but I miss the Canon ergonomics and colour science. I still have a few bits of Canon L glass (50m f1.8, 24-70 f4 L, 70-200 f4 IS L) so the adapter will come in handy until i can afford the f4 versions in RF mount. I will keep the Panny for the little video work I shoot for my channel. My thoughts right now are to get the higher resolution R even though on paper the R6 is a better camera.
@@thevalleywalker okay gotcha. Ya, like I said I think the R would be easily capable of doing what you need for photo and would save you some money.
Out of curiosity, is there a reason why you want two separate systems for video vs photography?
This is a very thorough comparison of the R and R6. What is causing the posterization starting at 14:23? It is very apparent on the right hand side of the screen. It shows up on my 4k monitor, phone and tablet.
I think you’re seeing a very out of focus coffee maker that was in the right side of the frame there when I was recording that
@@JustinMyersPhoto Hey Justin, thanks for the quick reply! Don't get me wrong. I understand there is something occupying that space that is out of focus. My question is why was it not rendered smoothly in the footage? Could it be a result of the IPB codec or how the footage is processed in post?
@@Russianspyonyou well, keep in mind that isn’t the actual file, it’s a 720 HD Proxy image, as the notation on the left hand side says. The original files were over 70GB and it didn’t feel the need to keep them, so don’t use that image to judge anything other than overheating performance
@@JustinMyersPhoto That makes more sense. It also occurred to me this could be the result of CZcams compressing the file. I think the R6 is a fantastic camera. I was just very curious about that one specific shot
@@Russianspyonyou ya, the youtube compression didn’t help it, I’m sure. But I think the main culprit would be the fact that it’s the proxy file
I don’t miss my R at all. It was a joke compared to my R6. The R6 is simply incredible for the many things I shoot.
@@JustinMyersPhoto I think there’s too many set backs. Truly the pinnacle of the cripple hammer. For the current $1800 that it’s at right now, the R6 is $700 more and brings SO MUCH more in my opinion. If hate to blame my heart but the R6 has allowed me to become more creative, it’s allowed me not to worry about where my focus is, and it’s made me feel like I’ve become a better photographer. I enjoy using it so much. I felt with the R I was fighting the autofocus so much. And I was torn between the A7iii when I got the R. I wished I had gotten the Sony the whole time I had the R.
I mean at the end of the day it’s preference. Dope vid either way and one plus subscriber.
@@JustinMyersPhoto heard. ☮️
I have both. I want the R5 but I don’t want to spend all the money for the sd cards
Okay, what kind of photo and/or video do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I’m a still photographer. I mostly shoot for fun. But I supplement my hobby by family portraits, small weddings etc. I want to learn video though. 🙂
@@phatcrayonz oh okay cool. Well, I have an R5 review coming soon. But these two cameras are both great, and there are a lot of peripheral upgrades (memory cards like you said, etc.) involved with the R5. My thought would be that lights and lenses would probably be more worthwhile investments, even though they definitely aren’t as exciting!
Have you used any RF lenses yet?
Ill sell you mine lol.. I have 2 512 CF Express cards but no r5
@@jonpremosch9544 out of curiosity, what made you get the CFExpress cards?
For weddings what i buy? Canon R or R6?
Well it depends on how you shoot and what your needs are. It also heavily depends on what your budget is and what lenses you already have or will need to buy
I prefer my EOSR. I certainly wouldn't downgrade. It's like walking backwards.
I love my R too, but out of curiosity, what part do you feel is a downgrade?
Is that Baton Rouge?
Why yes, yes it is
I clicked your video and was editing pictures of that same location and saw you were once there. Complete coincidence and random
@@pulliam318 haha, no way! That’s crazy!
I say Nikon Z5 is a way way way better deal, $999+-. it has IBS, R doesn't! R6 is over $2500+. no brainer.
I agree with you that the Z5 on sale at $999 is a great price. If you’re looking for a more entry-level full frame camera and don’t need fast autofocus or a lot of high end features, the Z5 is cool option. More of a competitor with the RP than these two cameras, but if it fits your needs, it’s an awesome price while it’s on sale right now!
Too many downgrades on the R6 for me. No reason whatsoever to have crimped on the R6 as Canon did. Eventually I sent back my R6 for the R5. Being unable to save just 1 configuration on video for video button use in photo mode sealed the R6’s fate form me.
Ya, if that specific feature is the thing that matters most to you, it definitely makes sense to go with a camera body that has it 👍
20 megapixels in 2021 is a shame. even if they coat their sensor with gold, I won't buy it. especially for 2.5 thousand dollars
That’s fine. If you have a specific need for higher resolution, then this camera wasn’t made for you and there are plenty of higher resolution options out there. Gold-plating a sensor would lead to pretty terrible image quality though
even a 30mp sensor is hair splitting difference
R shouldn't even be an option in 2021 if you can afford an R6. ^^
I get it, although I’d also say someone should probably be able to afford the R6 and some nice lenses. Otherwise, it’d be better to get the less expensive camera and put the savings toward lenses.
I do think it’s still a bit more nuanced. The R is still a great camera and certain types of photographers might still be better off with the R.
What kind of photo and/or video do you typically shoot?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I generally shoot wildlife however I do a few events and photoshoots for people. I probably have too many lenses. ^^
@@frostybe3r okay cool. Ya for wildlife, it’s definitely a no-brained to go with the R6.
Too many lenses is a great problem to have. Until it’s time to pack the camera bag. Have you gone for any of the RF lenses yet?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I currently have an RF 15-35 2.8, RF 28-70 2, RF 85 1.2, RF 70-200 2.8 and Ezf 500 f4 MK2, waiting for RF 100 2.8 to be delivered, hopefully next week.
@@frostybe3r wow, that is quite an awesome collection 👍 definitely jealous of the 28-70!
you know you can turn off ibis)
I do and I’ve seen mixed results from it. Bottom line: I love the IBIS in the R6, but if I’m shooting a client project, or really even a personal project, that requires a series of shots with the exact same composition for compositing work, I’m going to go back to my R for those particular shots. Just different tools for different jobs.
What kind of photography and/or video do you typically shoot?
I'll stick with the R. R6 is for those that keep lying ass (gear doesn't matter) photogs. I'll leave the flexing up to you.
Nice. Like I said, the R is still an amazing camera and has remained my main camera up until now. I do love the R6 though and will be making the upgrade to that very soon.
I actually made a video a couple years ago talking about how gear definitely does matter. It’s not the only thing that matters, but it definitely does.
And I will, based on your request, flex as best as I can
If Canon had not been so mean and given the r6 a 30MP sensor, I would have rushed out and bought an r6. What was canon thinking?
I get it, but they put the sensor of the $6,000 1DX Mark III sensor into a $2,500 mirrorless body. I don’t see any problem with that at all. It’s actually pretty awesome
R6 is almost perfect in everyway except the resolution. Don't get me wrong, 20MP isn't bad in absolute term, but it's bad for the price, bad compare to the competition. You have to accept that you have no headroom for craping, any kind of craping can left you only 8MP to play with.
Well, the 1DX Mark III has the same 20 MP sensor for 3x the price. And since most of its direct competition is only 24 MP anyway, the difference is really very minor. But it does depend on what you need it for.
Personally, if I have to crop my 20 MP image to a final image of 8 MP, I probably messed up my composition when taking the photo and would need to work more on that.
For anyone who likes to use crop to get more range out of their lenses, then no I don’t think the R6 is right for that. However, that’s a pretty small segment of the market that typically understands that they need more resolution. And again, 24 MP is not going to make a very significant difference there.
What type of photography do you typically shoot?
$2500 vs $1600.
And now the R6 Mark 2 blows away the R
The R6 Mark I did that
So will you be “upgrading” ?
@@JustinMyersPhoto my very point...it won't stop cos technology will keep getting better and better is better than good, so there...
@@JustinMyersPhoto R5?
@@JustinMyersPhoto um..? What dose um.. mean?
Excellent vid.
Glad you enjoyed it! Are you using or looking into one of these cameras?
And where is comparison? Photo and video?
Yes, it is, thanks!
Eos R is Pro, Eos R6 amateur.
Interesting assessment. What makes you feel that way?
@@JustinMyersPhoto I think Eos R6, very expensive by to be amateur camera lens. Better focus point for EOS R and quality image.
@@diegopendinorodriguez4829 I’m not sure I understand, but if you’re talking about the autofocus and the image quality: as I said in the video, autofocus and image quality are actually both better with the R6
@@JustinMyersPhoto I use only it for photos.
@@diegopendinorodriguez4829 yes, the R6 has better image quality in photos. For autofocus performance in photography, it’s not even close; the R6 is way better.
That’s not to say the R isn’t good. I own both of the cameras and still use the R for certain situations, but the R6 is better in most respects
So you think a 1Dx is a downgrade LOL!
Umm...I think you might be confused. Did you watch the video?
@@JustinMyersPhoto No I relied on an accurate video title..
@@purehuman9056 it doesn’t really seem like you did that either, because the video title has a question mark. This means that it is addressing a question.
Have you used either of these cameras before?
Great video 👌totally on point
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Have you had a chance to use either/both of these cameras?