Are BIGGER HiFi Speakers BEST ? Dynaudio Evoke 20 REVIEW
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- This is my video review of the Dynaudio EVOKE 20 HiFi Speakers and as part of the review I will be comparing them to the EVOKE 10 speakers to see if Bigger is Best??
The Evoke 20 are a two way hifi loudspeaker featuring interesting Dynaudio technologies such as the Cerotar tweeter featuring Hexis technology and the MSP Mid Bass Driver.
This is review also marks the start of a stand mount speaker group test I am conducting where I will be reviewing and comparing 8 different stand mount hifi speakers priced to £2000. Speakers included are from JBL, Neat Acoustics, Arendal, System Audio, Dynaudio, Sonus Faber
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0:00 Intro
1:25 The Evoke 20
3:10 Setup Measurements
5:42 Sound Quality
10:31 Amplifier Suggestion
12:14 Final Thoughts
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Wow, you're starting with a bang! Curious to see which set of speakers (if any) will outperform these Evokes in your new mega group test. Thanks a bunch for doing this so soon after the previous group test. Don't forget to take some vacation this summer!
Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm and knowledge with us, Terry. A wonderful 2023 to you. Happy new year!
Outstanding as always Terry. Thank you for your honesty both technically and with your personal opinion of a speaker. Even though both this and the previous test groups are beyond my budget I find your reviews and comparisons fascinating. I can't wait to see how the remaining speakers will perform/compare as the Evoke 20's have set the bar very high right out of the gate. Keep up the great work.
I've had the Dynaudio Evoke 20s for a couple years and am still in love with these speakers. I'm driving them with the PS Audio Sprout 100 in a home office setup.
Im driving the Evoke 20 on Bluesound Powernode n330 and I love it. The evokes are so good in my opinion.
Bought a set a few weeks ago, i demo’d the evoke 10, 20, 30 & special 40. The 20’s just have so much excitement, with excellent midrange. I actually went in wanting the 30’s, but the 20’s were just too good. The guy in the hifi shop (signals hifi, very knowledgeable) said they had a guy in a few days before me who said the exact same thing - he also ended up going for the 20’s! They are superb!
What we're your takeaways from the sound differences from special 40 vs evoke 20?
@@OllieMarshall92 I can’t remember as clearly now, all I remember was being underwhelmed by the special 40’s. Much less exciting than the 20s.
@@12988Jakeit baffles me how a bookshelf outperforms a 2.5 way floorstander like evoke 30 ? How did the soundstage compare? I would appreciate it if you could share your experience. Thanks
@@marcusaurelius2988 very hard for me to accurately recall given it was so long ago now, but the 20’s with their bigger driver, just had a lot more excitement, more midrange, and very good detail. I can only suggest it’s down to the driver size. I went in wanting the 30’s and came out with the 20’s. Still very happy with them!
Nice review Terry! I am actually using the Evoke 20's for mixing and mastering in my studio. I am driving them with an ELAC Alchemy DPA2 at 325 watts a side. I like them for their neutrality and my mixes translate very well. I am also very partial to the Dynaudio sound. A lot of guys are using the Amphion One 18's, and while I have not had the opportunity to audition these, I am hoping you will include the Argon 3S for comparison. Keep up the good work Terry! Bloody good show mate :)
Super Like ! Wasn't expecting another group test so soon , Clearly you're on a roll !
5:00 😂😂. Great video Terry and thanks for the Meta comparison, I’m sure your audience appreciates it (self included!)
Great to see the Leema Acoustics Tucana II Anniversary Edition integrated amplifier being used as reference.
A terrific review. I have made the decision to try these loudspeakers. I am one that prefers floor standing loudspeakers, but I am ready to experiment and see what happens.
Just discovered your channel. What great content. Thank you.
I have Naim Supernait 3 amp driving my evoke 20's you simply can't go wrong dynamics in abundance 🔥
Another group test? This channel rocks! :)
Thank you for the great reviews. I recently purchased the Dynaudio Evoke 20 to replace a pair of SVS Ultra Bookshelf. Once past the "ear adjustment period", I find these are so much more balanced and warm than the SVS. I much prefer to listen for extended periods to the Dynaudio. I still have a week or so of "trial period", but I don't think I'll be sending them back. Your reviews comparing various speakers against other similarly priced products are enormously helpful in narrowing down the many choices. Great job!
@@xarifa777 I preferred the sound of the Dynaudio. The SVS are good speakers, but the Dynaudio are warmer, to my ears. I understand that the Dynaudio are particular about the amplifier. I use a PS Audio integrated amplifier, and the sound is very nice. All my own opinion, of course.
Great review Terry, well done! Very interesting to see the comparison with the Evoke 10 and difference in treble energy.
I use a total of five Evoke 20’s in my dedicated hometheater room (paired with Arcam AVR850/P429 and two 15” F15HP subwoofers from Rythmik) and I am VERY pleased with the dynamics and overall sound quality, both for music and movies. I know Dynaudio very well and have owned many different models in the past but these big standmounts have really suprised when it comes to dynamics and speed.
One thing I must mention: (the cabinets of) the Evoke 20’s are very sensitive to the type of standmounts used and the type of coupling/decoupling used on the standmounts. Only after putting Isoacoustic Gaia III’s to my Dynaudio stand 10’s did the Evoke’s show me their true potential. It made an astonishing difference, with more energy and more space around the speakers.
I can easily see the Evoke 20 being cracking for HC, great shout about the importance of isolation too that's the same for every speaker :)
I hope Mads sends you a pair of their latest Buchardt S400 MkII!! Would REALLLLLLLY love to see your review on it.
Excellent video - I have the Evoke 20's and love em so far :)
The Sonetto II's have been nearly at the of my "MMMMMMM YES!" list since I got back in hifi in a serious way earlier this year, really looking forward to seeing how they review.
Should be out next Sunday same time all being well
I auditioned the Evoke 20 and liked it a lot... just like you mentioned in your review... but I noticed that the pair I auditioned was a 6ohm version and that matches the Dynaudio website description... but the version you reviewed was a 4ohm version. Something is not quite... maybe you can review with the revised 6ohm version?
Hello, thanks for this, have you reviwed these VS the Dynaudio Special 40?
OHhh.. Im looking forward to this group of testing !!! I hope to see the Lumina 2 in this one.
They would have been in the last group test if they existed when it was organised, I would have liked to have included them but they didn't exist :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem ...Those Sonetto speakers will be a nice up-tick for Sonus Faber in the line up. I'm looking forward to hear if your experience and demos align with previous descriptions and demos of their quality vs what Lumina has been design for. ...
I Love your work on these comparison line ups.. These are very valuable and great data the way you test/demo as a consistent comparison across all your videos. (Even if true in room sound is different.. against each video will still reveal character differences)
Thank you, sir.
Hey Terry, Thanks for another great review. I am considering the Evoke 10s and 20s and favoured the 20s over the 10s. However, if you were running these both with a sub, would you still pick the 20s?
Subscribed ... Cheers to reaching 40k!!!
Thanks for helping!!!
Thanks for the review. How does it compare to the Bucharest S300 from the last group? They both sound like a floorstander with the strong bass, any other similarities or differences? It will be great to have a side-by-side comparison between the two. Thanks.
Nice review Terry very much enjoyed that.🎧😁👍
Thanks very much Shane
Hi Terry, thanks for great review👍👍.. i just wonder how this evoke 20 vs elac ubr62..since cabinet size almost same especially at low end(bass) .. any idea?
hello terry. what your thoughts on evoke vs kef r3 ?
great reviews .
I picked up a pair of Contour 20s at the beginning of the summer. I got them new-in-box from a proper distributor for under $3K. I think because the 20is had been released he let them go at a steal.. It was an extreme stretch on "my" budget even at that discount.. I am pushing them with a vintage amp with a TON of power. They are truly fantastic speaker and worth every penny that I paid…The bass is UNBELIEVABLE. …and the high-end balance sounds exactly as you describe the Evoke 20s. Just amazing. I can play anything thru them, as well. I am a very happy boy 👶🏻
Good, thorough review, Terry!
Contours, nice!!
@@PursuitPerfectSystem based on your inquiry about what Rels the gent has with the LS50s, I am torn about getting a pair of T/5x subs for my Contours. Sometimes I think that I have all the bass that I need…and then other times I wonder if the sound would fill-out even more. 🤔
I also own Contour 20's and indeed they need ample current. I drive mine with Hegel 390, no sub needed just a really good amplifier to get the best out of them. C20's sound full range.
I run my Kef LS50 with a REL S3, these little speakers are just wonderful, again they get better and better with higher end amplification. People often underestimate the importance of amplifiers in the chain of system matching
Thanks for the reviews. It will be interesting to see what else is good in this range. Wonder if you will include monitor audio gold 100 they have good reviews in this price bracket
No MA David sorry, I did try with them but they chose not to include any speakers which is a shame
@@PursuitPerfectSystem my Silver 100's (which are quite a different beast from The Golds) had my ears bleeding. Huge mistake in my journey. Perhaps the pain in my ears made me mad enough to fork-up for my Dynaudio Contour 20s. It been blurry bliss since and my ears have healed nicely. 🙃
Starting to consider evoke 20 with a sub, or emit 30. I have vintage amps and some cheap 90s a/v receivers, but might sell some off for possibly something like the pioneer elite 305 - which has dirac. Thoughts?
Nice to see your review, very straightforward. I bought these for my Marantz pm7000n but this amp cannot manage the evokes, so I've ordered the Arcam SA30. Hope I made a good choice. I have the Emit M20 with Marantz pm6006 in my bedroom and really love the sweet smooth sound.
Best wishes
Vitor - I was hoping to buy the Marantz pm7000n to use with the Evoke 20 because I wanted to use its Heos system for streaming. Do you, or anyone, have a view as to whether that Marantz would satisfactorily drive the Evoke 10. If not I wonder if any of the other Marantz amplifiers with Heos would work. Thanks.
@@michaelswitzer3186
Hi Michael,
I have the Kef ls50 meta + kef kc62 subwoofer with the Marantz pm7000n, they sound quite good.
Heos is not perfect, (I suppose no streaming app is) but it is very easy to install and works well enough with both my Marantz, the pm7000n and the na6006. This na6006 together with pm6006 which I have in my bedroom with Dynaudio emit m20 are a perfect match!
My evoke 20 are connected to a Gato Audio Dia-250s-npm (changed the Arcam sa30 which I had ordered, a lovely sounding amp, but I could not cope with all the software issues; the streaming app was awful), the app is mcontrol, a slight better than heos, but the problem is we end up stacking loads of albums on Tidal resulting in difficulty accessing music - Roon seems to be a possible solution for this...
Sorry to say, but I have not heard the evoke 10.
Hope this could be of any help to you.
VF
@@vitorfragoso7355 thank you, that is very helpful. Unfortunately I have to throw into the mix that I am older and a technophobe so ease of operation becomes a real priority for me. But I’ll keep looking. Thank you for the detailed response.
@@michaelswitzer3186 Hi Michael,
I think you will be very well with the Marantz PM7000n an Kef ls50 meta + subwoofer kc62. This will you about 4000 euros.
If you want to spend less, go for the Marantz pm6007, na6007, with h Dynaudio emit m20-cheaper but, nevertheless, a great buy, a great sound! I cannot, honestly, say which is better.
Cheers!
@@vitorfragoso7355 Since my last post, I am a little embarrassed to say that I am considering a new possibility. While I am still thinking about putting the Evoke 10 together with an appropriate amplifier in a second bedroom that measures 12 x 14, now I am thinking instead I would put a system in my larger living room which is 12 x 37 (I’ll sit only 6 to 8 feet away from the speakers) using Wharfdale Linton speakers and a to-be-determined Integrated amplifier that would pair well both in terms of power/current and tonality. (in a couple days I’ll probably change my mind again). Thanks.
please review Elac 403, Audiovector QR1 and Martin Logan Motion 35X
Thank you for the great review. Do you think sprout 100 would pair well with Wharfdale Denton or Linton? If not which small profile integrated amp would do the justice.
I haven't heard the sprout sorry
Please include ATC 11s into your list! Very keen to hear your comparison between evoke 20 to the 11s
I looked at them recently pless check in the Channel
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Right! 11s are actually more expensive in the US. Which one would you prefer more, evoke 20 or ATC 11, for Jazz or classicals? Great reviews!
I tried the Evoke 20's but just couldn't get them to work in my room. They were very boomy. Even with the foam inserts. My room is 12 x 14 ft. so maybe they were over powering.
I went back to my ATC SCM 11's. Hard to beat. Thanks for the review.
Boomy bass is not the speaker it's room acoustics but you have to make work what you can. Your likely sitting in a spot where bass is peaking at certain frequencies which is what causes boom. If you managed the bass well that boom is made to work for you not against you fwiw
I'm literally choosing between the ATC scm11 and the evoke 20.. is there a little review you can do? Like what the difference js between the HF and MF? That would be awesome!!! Thanks in advance
Waited for this one..!
Hope it didn't disappoint :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Superb review! Now I'm waiting for the comapration with the Lumina 2 :)
For vocals the Lumina might be better..
@@igaldins thanks appreciate it
@@PursuitPerfectSystem
Hi. I watched the review again and yes, thats a very good review!
I liked that you described how the speakers make you feel, that is an important aspect in my opinion.
Is it good pair with lyngdorf 1120 or primare i15 ?
Hegel vs musical fidelity vs yamaha vs denon? One wonders which of these would evoke 20 like the best?
Can you review the evoke 50s at all please? Thanks
Wondering if the Buchardt S400 will be included? It's a good reference point because it's so popular and quite a few people heard them at some point.
Yeah I would really like to spend some time with them, lets see what happens :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem There is a MK II version out there being send to some reviewers. Hearing its a considerable improvement over the regular S400. Would love to hear your thoughts on that.
I have a wharfedale evo 2.1 + a HSU research sub paired with miniDSP SHD + Mrch Audio P452 purifi amp for a movie/music 2.1 setup. Thinking of getting the S400 MKII or a dynaudio evoke 20 for a pure 2 channel setup.
Would love to here these with Rega amps
No test existe for central 25c?
Great one Terry!Which one do you think is better B&W 705 S2 or Evoke 20?Thanks
They are very different Tony, hard to say which is better exclusively it depends on what you like, the Evoke 20 bigger and for me better bass out of the two - mids both are very good and then it Bowers lively treble vs Dyn bit more neutral but still quite lively soft dome - have a listen mate you really need to
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks a lot for the answer Terry, i really appreciate it..I have B&W 705 S2.Im thinking of buying Marten Oscar Duo , do you think that it will be money well spent since they are pretty expensive....Than you Sir.
One Question please: what is more important in a home stereo system? What you should usually buy/upgrade at first? A real good Speaker, or a real good DAC? What is more important for the Sound?
chicken and egg question
1.speaker.2.amp.3.source.4 dac
Evoke 20 vs Rubicon 2 , Whats better?
The fine wire in the tweeter really is a concern for me....
Nice speaker 👍
I don’t understand shouldn’t the smaller driver of evoke 10 be able to play higher without beaming and allow for the higher crossover point? And the opposite you would think would be true of 7 inch driver..low crossover point to prevent it from beaming above say 1.4k
I was thinking the exact same thing. But I suppose that's why the guys at Dynaudio are doing the designing, instead of one, or both of us. 🤣
All I really know is that I'm itching to hear the 10's in my small room. And have been since Zero Fidelity reviewed them a few months ago, or so. ✌️
I had a Set of these and the AMP pairing is very important. I used an Arcam SA20 and Musical Fidelity M3SI. Neither of these could really pull it off. I got a used Classe CA-D200 and this is the type of high-end amp you'll need. Sad to say I had to let them go. I love the sound of Dynaudio... Any suggestion besides these.
Thats disappointing to read. I wanted to go for these but i dont really have the budget for such an amp
@@roybrolsbeak The alternative is the special 40's I have them playing on a mid grade cyrus amp. Sounds awesome.
I suspect that pop and rock fans would much prefer Emit over Evoke. Emit has good detail plus that midrange slam that analytical speakers like Evoke seem to lack.
What's your opinion on Dynaudio Special 40's?
I haven't heard the specials mate sorry
I read a review where the Evoke 10 (not 20) was compared to the Special 40 and the Evoke 10 won when it came to mid-range authenticity and seamless homogeneity.
Couldn't help but notice that these are made in Denmark while the 10s are made in China. Unusual to see so many differences from one speaker to the next in the same series.
That might be to do with the age of the speaker, one was brand new the other was existing demo stock
Can you tell what is the difference between the evoke to the emit20 ?
The Emit has a cheaper cabinet and a less powerful woofer. Sound wise they're similar but you'll get better low end and midrange with the Evoke.
@@danielhenderson8316 I wish I could, they are too pricey for me, I think I will go with the Emit probably. Thanks
I'm listening to different Dynaudio speakers for many years and what I like most is the reproduction of the human voice.
Man, I want to see Terry dance 🙏
Check some archive videos for that :)
Need test evoke center 25c
Yes, bigger in the cone means you'll hear more, though not better,
in a greater detail.
I miss the screws. Adding covers for them is just bad.
which is better evoke 10 or emit 20?
Evoke:) i have dynaudio excite x14 and that its better than the emit serie
@@dariopieterson I have the opposite opinion, I really liked the sound of emit, almost the same as evoke, I don’t even know if it makes sense to overpay.
I'm sitting this one out Terry. Mostly because I believe that KEF Meta LS50s with a pair of REL subs will likely surpass any speaker up to $5k.
I'm hopeful that in the future you will have the opportunity to do a Floorstanding speaker comparison in the 5-10K price range. Thank you always for your excellent work.
Hi David just wondering which Rels you got paired with the Kefs please?
Rather a bold, sweeping statement David when there are dozens of speakers under $5k, most of which I suspect you haven’t listened to.
@@gcb1954 "Rather a bold, sweeping statement David....."
Yes, yes it is! And that is something that's definitely best avoided in this hobby from my personal experience. You never know, until you know. I've learned to never assume anything in this hobby, and to keep an open mind.
In fact, just like life, the more I learn. The more I realize I've really no clue, and will consider myself very lucky if I ever manage to get to the level that some guys are at when it comes to system matching/tuning in my lifetime. I'm just not that ambitious, nor that well off.
And I fear I took too long of a break off from the hobby to ever get there at this point. But maybe that's for the best. I thoroughly enjoy learning, and trying gear anyway. Besides, knowing everything (not very likely, for anyone, anyway. I suppose) would be very, very boring. What would I do then? I would have to get a new hobby. 😊
@@amb3cog I agree with your sentiments and I'm probably similar to you anyway. I've been in this hobby on and off for 30 years, but sometimes I think I'm still completely clueless too. I could probably spend a lot more on my system, but having recently bought new speakers, I limited my budget to £1500 and decided to audition just 2 different pairs on the basis that I'd just confuse myself even more and be further away from making a decision if i auditioned lots. I have a system that works for me and just enjoy reading about the new gear and developments. Ironically, I didn't even consider the KEF Meta LS50s, because to me they're aesthetically ugly, irrespective of what they sound like!
Kef LS50 with a very good amp and Rel sub is hard to beat under $5k I agree. I also agree hat the traditional colours are not the prettiest, my black edition with their matching performance stands look fantastic though and sound amazing with REL S3
You sound just like Robin Leach from Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.
I had to google him Sean, he was from London, maybe my side of London where my accent comes from. Lets hope my careers takes off in a similar vain to his haha :)
When I see a speaker that measures flat all the way to 15khz - 20khz in your room, I know right away its a pretty bright speaker. Lol!
Dynaudio is a chinese company with a chinese majority owner. Some of the lower lines are FULLY MADE IN CHINA. The cabinets are outsourced, and the higher lines are assembled in Denmark.
Or their a Danish company that was bought by the Chinese.
Those measurements only show that the room is not good for critical listening - especially in the bass region.
You could say that about every room I have measured systems in hundreds of rooms none are suitable.
I thought there was going to a sound check test.... ? But NO...
Hardly any reviewers do sound demos so expecting that and then being disspainted is a bit silly, however I do them but they are done in separate videos due to copyright restrictions on YT.