New Brunswick To Ontario | Going Back Home
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- čas přidán 16. 09. 2023
- In this video, we head back to our home province of Ontario. I talk a little bit about what it feels like living in New Brunswick after 3 years and where home feels.
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Have you ever had the feeling of being on outsider? Where were you!?
My home town: after living in Chengdu China for so many years, and coming home this summer since 2020, so strange. I feel more at home in Asia than I do in Northern England.
@@glitterfish7780 wow that's amazing. Did you learn the language? Mandarin? I think that would help huge in feeling comfortable.
LOL. The last family reunion I went to.
@@atribecalledowens I'm working on it but I rely too much on my Chinese wife. I didn't really learn much at first because I wasn't planning to stay long term, but now I'm not so sure. I've been making more of an effort these days. focusing more on my conversational skills.
Living in the Caribbean, most people thought I was (1) a tourist or (2) a student studying at the local universities. It was super challenging to make connections at first at least, but well worth it!
We have been in Saint John for a few months and see a stratification between the different sorts of people here. Feeling like you belong is about finding your people as well as a sense of place. We know as newcomers we will never be accepted among certain strata here, no matter how long we are here. We are hoping that over time, and especially as the city grows, we find our place. As for a sense of place, it depends what you are looking for and what makes you happy. If it is nature and the outdoors, it is a good place to be.
That is for sure
Thank you for choosing New Brunswick, and Saint John in particular. I mean that.
They're are growing pains, to be sure, but it's never been a better time to be in NB.
Thanks for taking us along to see your family.
Thanks for watching!
Irie is such a good travelling buddy for you Jordan, the joy that she and Axel bring to your family is nice. When you start rushing around it only invites stress/anxiety, better to relax and enjoy the ride. As I am only 10 mins. from the Quebec border, I 0pt for scenic route. Have to say I really enjoyed this one. Thanks and a hello to the Whole Owens Tribe.
Thanks Frey!
You have a beautiful family. Thanks for the smiles with my morning coffee!
Thanks for watching 😊🙏🏾
What a great video, hugs to Aunt Dzintra, Aunt Bernetta and Uncle Bill. How wonderful seeing them on your video. ❤
They are the best ❤️
I love the honesty of this video. It's ok to go somewhere new, suss out what feels good and what doesn't. Sometimes I miss just being close to my family to have a good laugh and be spoiled by them. Glad your goal was to be present in your visit and to fill your cup.
No matter the location - presence - so key!
Hope you guys are well. Still need to link one of these days 😊🙏🏾
@@atribecalledowens yes we do. We are good!
I’ve been in NB for 15 years. I agree , will always be an outsider. I lived in Ontario for 17 years. I moved there as an adult and it was not hard to fit in and thrive. Here in NB not so much.
I know the exact feeling! My wife and I feel the same way here in New Brunswick, We used to live in Toronto and had to move here during the pandemic as my worked decided to close the Ontario company and asked if we would like to work for the main company here in Saint John, NB. We constantly feel like outsiders and visitors even though this is our "new home" It's such a hard thing to get re programmed in the New Brunswick way.
Nice video, We've been watching for awhile now. Just nice to watch someone else feeling the same as being someone from Ontario in a different province
Community is huge! Takes the edge off. Thanks for watching! 🙏🏾
Been in Saint John (from Toronto) for just over two years and I have decided this place will never be home. I am not the only one. I have heard this from people who have lived here for close to a decade and still feel like outsiders. Too insular and boring for me and I also miss riding my bike around Toronto in the summer. I am done with trying or pretending to like it here. Just counting the days until I leave.
Age and recreational pursuits are definetly a factor in how well you can settle into a new place. Before I retired I could never imagine myself moving to N.B. let alone being content. I am in Edmundston where French is mainly spoken, but most are bilingual. I worked in ICI construction for most of my career so being home was not the norm. 5 houses have recently sold on my street so now Ottawa, Hamilton, London Windsor and Grimsby are on the block. I moved here from Hagersville, Housing has gone off the charts since I moved here 5 years ago. Hope you find your home.
Oh wow. Ya if you’re not into easy access to outdoor adventures and prefer downtown TO there’s no match. Assuming your accommodations are financially sound in either place.
Some days I miss Niagara Falls but I guess I have been away more than I lived there. Leaving when I was 18 and now in my 50s. 20 years in Alberta, 4 in Manitoba, 7 in Florida… The Falls will always be where I am from, but Moncton is now home.
You left Florida!? 😜
@@atribecalledowens Florida was never home! Trust me when I say conflicting cultural issues.
I moved from the Saint John area over 25 years ago. My family and life has been in the GTA for almost the same time. Home will always be the Saint John area. I experience the same feelings and emotions as you when I return home. It just makes visiting extra special and I think it is a very common feeling when people move away from home.
Ya for sure. Where in the GTA are you?
@@atribecalledowensDurham Region. What I forget sometimes is that this is my kids home and all that they know. They have made the same memories as kids here as I did in New Brunswick. I would love to move back but it’s all about them now. I feel very fortunate to be able to visit when I can and that I still have family there.
After growing up in the Pacific Northwest and living in southern Ontario for 5 years, Ontario never felt like home. After a year in fredericton, it feels like a new home.
Oh wow that's interesting. Wonder why Moncton!?
I liked Fredericton, but the novelty wore off fast.
Hello Everyone
I am sorry to hear the stories of those that moving to Saint John doesn't feel like home or you are deciding to move back to your home province. I think when people move to a new place.. there are those who do not make you feel comfortable
I would like to make a suggestion..
Why not form some kind of group to support one another.
That way as you adjust to living in Saint John..it will become easier. Meet for coffee, go to City Market, Explore Germain Street, find a Church
I don't live in Saint John, but I was raised there.
Sorry, people are not accepting everyone.. but I think that is true of anyone moving to a new place
Wishing Everyone the very best.
Thanks Norma those are great suggestions 🙏🏾
Home will always be home for sure ! As a saint Johners taken visit else we’re I think the same thing so definitely alright to feel that way Toronto Ontario we’re ever it might be should always be considered that hopefully tho New Brunswick has become that second home
For sure. We have many second homes at this point. Still haven't lived in a place I didn't like. All places have good and bad - it is the nature of all things.
I feel that the Junction was a great place to come from I would not want to move back. I was 19 when I left! home now is where I reside on the Westside and hope to stay until I die . 😊
Awesome you found home!
Personally friend, it never feels the same as 'home'. I have lived in SJ and area for 34 years (Im 42) and I know a lot of the in's and out's of this town, but I was born in Northern NB. I still don't feel like a SJ'er but I do like where I live and proud to be 'from' this place.
That’s awesome glad you’ve found your place!
I have never had a place to really call home, as many told me I was not like other people(Whatever that means) I never fit in, as they say I was never mean to anyone!! Wow!! Either way, I lived in Hamiltin, ON. for 13 yrs and that was more like home, as so many friendly people and strangers would just start chatting with you there. Talk of anything and everything, and could agree to disagree and still get along well. Only other place that had people chat with others they did not know was in Halifax, N.S. Still most places I never felt I could just talk with others as I do not hate anyone or any place and found so many do. I live in a very nice area of N.B. now, friendly place, but, they feel l should hate a place, or people or things. I never have hated in my entire life, so will never fit in that way. Every place or Country has good and bad, so I would never hate anyone for where they come from, or what religion they follow, etc. I just go by the inner soul of a person. The Character of the person. I was taught from a small child that I did not belong, so I am used to it. The good in that, I can basically live anywhere, as to most I am invisible, so to speak. Never let it get me down. I tend to be an Optimist/Realist person. Happy within myself. Wish you the best in Ontario.
That’s awesome - inner soul is the way!
“Anytime you voice a criticism, people are like….”
Ya, having moved here 1.5 years ago (Saint John) from just down the road from where you used to live, I REALLY feel this one.
Being a person with mobility issues, I feel I’ve moved back in time 50 years. The kicker is, despite the idea that NB’ers are known to be very friendly, I have been met with much hate and vitriol from locals when mentioning or advocating for accessibility. It sucks.
I was actually born in SJ, and left at a very early age. I increasingly wish I’d stayed in ON. Saint John, and NB in particular Saint John are aesthetically beautiful, but just not really open to positive and inclusive change- especially for those with disabilities. I’m glad I didn’t grow up here.
Ya I can understand how that must be difficult. We still have to make that video!
New Brunswick has always been poor, and our cities and infrastructure have always been underfunded. You need to advocate for more change. It sucks that it has to be you, but no one else will tell your story for you. Maybe write a local politician or two about it. Maybe go to city meetings. Things don't change because there aren't enough young people with bright ideas.
There are those who come to Saint John searching for cheaper homes and those who come looking for a better life. A cheaper home is only a very small part of a better life. When I left the Vancouver area 5 years ago, I never looked back. I moved to Saint John because I wanted to, not because I felt I had to. I did not know a single soul here or anywhere near here. But I embraced the city and the city embraced me back. After 5 years I have more friends in Saint John than I had from a lifetime of living in BC. Being an outsider is a choice. As long as your heart is in Ontario, you will probably choose to be an outsider in Saint John.
Glad you found your home Les. I too have more friends here in SJ than back in my home city of Niagara Falls - or anywhere else. I've had these same feelings in every place I've lived. 8 different countries - 12 different cities. Loved them all despite not feeling the same level of comfort I do as the city I grew up in.
I have always had to make where ever i land home so i dont think id ever feel like a outsider anywhere but i also dont have an attachment to any family back in ontario to really miss it. I really hated the state of the ontario cities and my home town grew very fast and became a city by the time i grew up and always found my self missing how things use to be wich i find new brunswick to be mostly how life use to be .
The only thing wich is a huge thing that makes me question life here is the health care being so bad for no reason at all.
The wife and kiddo just went back to ontario for 2 weeks and i didint even join as i just dont feel id enjoy a minute of being back there i feel like i could just drive to moncton or fredericton and feel like im back home without the 12 hour drive lol we planned to sell and move to the moncton area for all the beachs and quick access to pei but a 18 hour wait in the emergency room in moncton changed that thought very quickly lol
18 hours!!?? Wowza
@@atribecalledowens yep over 18 hours for a very seriouse injury my 9 year old got on the beach. The hospital stay and treatment was far more traumatizing then the injury. In no way did it feel like a canadian hospital
We also have this feeling. It is really hard to be part of it.
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Lol funny I went back to Toronto for 2 weeks this summer been here in Nb for 3 years and people asked me would you move back. I said no way. Couldn’t pay me to move back there. I love NB I felt so happy when I crossed back the NB border. One week in Toronto and I was done. Knew it was never for me and wanted to leave for many reason since I was 18. Some people like the quieter life and that’s NB for me. I’m young only 26 but I never cared for the city life. I’m more of a chill person. Home is here for me.
Awesome that you found home :)
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In an Anglican Church🎉😂❤🎉 when I moved in the seventies from a village to the west side that was when I was a believer the alter guild didn’t accept my offer of help cleaning the church. It didn’t matter that I was younger than the old ladies now that I am in my seventies I wonder how old the old ladies were. 😮
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what do you got for camera? and lens? i feel like its a Sony, with a sigma lens, but ain't to sure about the specific specs, looks clean though 💪🏾
Sony A7IV - Sigma 24-70 F2.8
iPhone12 for a lot of the clips too!
So I totally get it. We moved from Cambridge, Ontario in 2021 to PEI. Bounced all over the island for over two years and have been in SJ for less than 4 months. Lots to like here. Really wasn't impressed with the fire on the west side polluting our area and doing goodness knows to our health. Maritimers are pleasant generally but yes they also are tribal. It happens. Alberta does not have a provincial sales tax, making it the only province without one. No land transfer tax. Residents pay only the federal GST of 5%. Alberta has a progressive income tax system with rates ranging from 10% to 15%, depending on the income level. That's just way less. Now Calgary is almost Toronto expensive. Edmonton is way more affordable. I challenge you to go play in Edmonton on MLS. Huge infrastructure, beautiful parks and trails basically running through the city, way less money. And yes crime and homelessness are a problem, where isn't it? Use your head and stay away from the bad areas. I guess the big question here is...are you looking around for alternate options to SJ?
Ya Alberta does appear to be a top pick for places to live in Canada (cities + mountains) - aside from wild fires which is a big thing. As for the tribal nature of the folks out here your are right, however I think it's like that everywhere. Tribalism is in our nature. Major cities have more tolerance for groups outside of ones own which is nice. But bigger cities have their own unique flaws. Good and bad everywhere of course - there is no utopia :P
And the big question - no not currently. Would like a cabin in the woods to run off to though. Sussex maybe? I like our location in SJ. High on a hill so no worries of flooding. The fog is a downer but with the way things appear to be going it may be our saviour in years to come :P
@@atribecalledowens Hey ya, you are right. It's foggy here...a lot. Haven't been here through a winter yet, is the fog still crazy in winter? Although the prices here for a home have skyrocketed in the last couple years, it is still cheaper than most of Canada. I think SJ average is low to mid $300s as of today. Go see what that would get me in Cambridge right? Rothesay and Quispamsis may be an option for us when we consider buying in 24. At some point I think we will just need to make some concessions, and just stick with a place, bad and the good. One could roam forever which isn't the smartest thing to do financially. MLS is just fun to play on but at some point becomes counterproductive. It's so easy to second guess our choices and think the grass might be greener elsewhere. Still waiting for your conclusion piece to your former hockey career. Good work!
Im planning move to newsbrunwick and do i really need to speak french to live there?
We don't speak French!
I’m only 1hr from you cool 😮
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originally i just came back to delete my comment, but then i read yours, so i am leaving a new/fresh comment.
im not very techy, i was hoping to save your very generous, graceful and patient reply, but it erased also when i scrubbed my spew away.
Thank You, Sir, You are a Gentleman and ANY community would be lucky to have you in it! Best Wishes, 4real.
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