The History of Mithril | Tolkien Explained
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- Most famously connected to the dwarves of Khazad-dûm, but coveted by many, Mithril becomes one of the most valuable object in all Middle-earth. Lightweight and immensely strong, it would be used in not only Frodo's mithril shirt, but in the construction of city gates, and Galadriel's ring of power.
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Cool...great video...
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Description wise I would guess it was inspired by aluminium.
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Mithril: worth 10 times its weight in gold
Also Mithril: weighs less than silk
Also Mithril: so available we make gates and helmets out of it.
@@skycryztals And rare things, like flags ....
It is a bit like titanium which is as strong as steel and as light as aluminum.
@@emrek99205 i thought titanium was heavy?
@@skycryztals Heck no. Titanium is light. Problem with it though is that it's difficult to work with and shape. It isn't diamond by any understanding but it's very resilient. Because of its rigidity it's possible to make very strong and thin items out of it such as medical implants - screws, brackets, and such. It is kind of a neat metal, really.
Thinking of how it's made and used, it is probably closer to adamantium than mithril. I just picked up on the phrase is all.
The shirt save Frodo a fourth time when it caused the Tower of Cirith Ungol orcs to almost wipe each other out fighting over it. Sam wouldn't have been able to rescue Frodo without that.
As valuable as the mithril shirt was, its contribution by saving Frodos life, and thus the defeat of Sauron, was worth so much more!
Bilbo, and Frodo deserved a little more plot armour than anyone.
Yeah you can't put a price on that!!!
@@Reveers the good kind of plot armour
The shirt save Frodo a fourth time when it caused the Tower of Cirith Ungol orcs to almost wipe each other out fighting over it. Sam wouldn't have been able to rescue Frodo without that.
@@dlxmarks Good point. It sure did.
Mithril is something Ive always loved about LOTR. Its perfect fantasy because its a metal/material stronger than anything we have and magical in ways but its not over the top or excessive. It just adds so much more... depth to the world. Add in the fact of the dwarves greed and the Balrog and it becomes a warning as well.
@@adventuresofavalon2477 Oh 100% I remember when I got The Nature of Middle Earth last year or whenever it was released and I flicked through the chapters and there was a whole chapter dedicated to economy and what Tolkien had noted and scribbled down. Shows the depth he really went to
@@adventuresofavalon2477 "Economy" that doesn't make any sense. Small chain shirt is worth more than Shire but armoring whole regiments of glorified city watch, or making whole huge gates or even ships out of the stuff is somehow so cheap it can be funded out of pocket of one dude, eh?
I felt like mithril is just the titanium of LOTR
@@michaelf.2449 Pure Titanium was first made in 1910, looking it up. That's kind of funny that Tolkien didn't know about it and invented it at about the same time as it really came into our world.
@@KuK137 you have to remember the Shire was so insignificant the Dark Lord didn’t know of it. ~120 miles x ~150 miles.
I’ve seen estimates of Gondor’s population being north of 1 million, based on how large their fighting forces were.
Amazon really needs to watch this one after ep 5...
They literally can't use lore because the Tolkien society won't let them
It is said that when asked what Nenya meant, Galadriel would often reply: " Nenya-Business..."
Mithril! All folk desired it.. Its beauty was like to that of common silver, but the beauty of mithril did not tarnish or grow dim! Great video again Nerd! you continue to amaze the Tolkien community
“Great video again Nerd!” lol
I find it intriguing that Eärendil's ship was said to have been made of mithril and elven glass. Not unlike how our sea faring vessels are traditionally of wood and our sky and star faring ships are made of metal with glass windows.
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Yes, like a spacecraft.
I get way more entertainment from this than 'rings of power'.
Well said
"Amazon disliked this". It's like the RoP writers just went 'Meh'. Thanks for sharing, great video as always
They can't use lore because of the Tolkien society blame the right people
Yeah imagine having enough money to think your story is better than a literal master of English language (and others)
Hypothetically Question: if the Balrog was never under the Misty Mountains. And it never intervened with the dwarfs. Do you think the dwarfs would have dug deeper into meeting the creatures like the Nameless things?
Ooh, that's intresting. I guess they would of.
Yes, certainly. Remember that the Endless Stair extended down into passages that met with those gnawed by the Nameless Things.
That is a good question and that is a likely possiblity. The deeper the dwarves mined the closer they would have likely to encounter the Nameless Ones.
@@EAP267 *would HAVE 🙄
@@michaelcairns8778, do they ever say what the Nameless Ones are?
"Mithril! All folk desired it. It could be beaten like copper, and polished like glass; and the Dwarves could make of it a metal, light and yet harder than tempered steel. Its beauty was like to that of common silver, but the beauty of mithril did not tarnish or grow dim" - GANDALF As said in The Fellowship of the Ring.
Another fantastic video, keep up the great work. Mithril is proof, with numerous other examples, of how in depth Tolkien was when writing LOTR. How many other authors went this deep to describe a metal? Just incredible.
I suppose he had an appreciation for metals. As a knife geek, the different blade steels and bolster/ inlay materials can leave you imagining all the different set-ups. Brass and nickel silver commonly used in knives tarnishes quite a bit, while precious metals would only be used for inlays. He describes it as being distinct from steel, silver, copper, or nickel alloys. After all, pyrite is known as fool's gold.
And in the Amazon serie they have destroyed this myth wiith an absurd history argh...
Thanks to keep the real History of the LOTR.
Another fantastic video. It felt nearly like a history lesson (which, as a true geek, I love) vs. a simple LOTR video. You make the legendarium come alive.
Your Gandalf (and many others I’ve heard you do) is excellent! Thank you for your work!
So it wasn't created because a tree was truck by lightning while an elf was taking a crap under it? Which somehow has something to do with a Silmaril?
Keep in mind, Elrond and Durin know of the legend, not of the history to Mithril.
The dwarves found jewels to keep
But then they dug too deep
A balrog below
But they didn't know
And woke it from it's sleep
Whoops!
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You are my go to channel for all things Tolkien and this video gives another chance to show your quality.
I’ve always loved the mithril lore and learned more than a few things today.
The best nugget I learned was about the Elendilmir and how it was found by Saruman while he looked for the ring. I had no idea they came across his remains while searching in the Gladden Fields. Bravo sir and keep up the great work!
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wait! so mithril wasn't elven tree fertilizer?
Mithril was oxidized and made into vitamins, but it made elves impotent.
@@trentw.3566 "MITHRIL OXIDE IS MAKING THE FROGS GAY" - Elven Alex Jones
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t I always thought of Alex Jones as a paranoid Dwarf.
@@trentw.3566 impotent or omnipotent?🤔🧝♂️🧝♀️
Great video! Like always!!
This is one of my favorite videos so far.
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I have been waiting for a video like this
Mithril is like a combination of the best properties of titanium and platinum: the luster and resistance to tarnish from platinum, and the strength and lightness of titanium.
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Yeah, your videos and lectures are always impressive.
This was really useful background. Especially in the context of this week's RoP episode ...
Thank you for these videos.
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Great videos, thank you!
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I never thought I'd need a video explaining mithril.
I watched a lot of these videos and I’ve learned so much to were I knew even more about and follow rings of power
Beautiful video! I once calculated how much that Mithril vest (made for Legolas), was worth.
That's about £50m - £60m in today's money. Give or take. I did a lot of calculations. I've calculated the entirety of Bilbo's wealth. Happy to run you through the calculations if you want to make a video of that.
But it was so expensive that really it was not a liquid asset. Like my Transformers collection
Spot the accountant. Wow.
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Mithril is one of my favorite things from Tolkien, and I often hope to find some whenever I play D&D, even though it has some different meaning there. I did often find it strange, though, that Moria's wealth was based on it, yet we honestly see very little of it, in the wider world. It certainly makes sense; even at only 10x gold, that's a price you would probably need to be a successful king to pay, but then where did all the things made of it go, that Khazad-dum became so rich for? They didn't mint mithril coins, to the best of my knowledge, and though elves in other lore love it, the elves of Middle Earth don't seem to have much of it, either. An assortment of helmets is fine, and the shirt was wonderful, but I hardly feel it would have made Durin's folk rich, if there is so little of it floating around "in the market". Still, a wonderful substance.
Also, I like how small chain shirt is worth more than Shire but armoring whole regiments of glorified city watch, or making whole huge gates or even ships out of the stuff is somehow so cheap it can be funded out of pocket of one dude, eh? Unless Elendil or Aragorn can casually spend bigger sums than the richest dwarven kings...
"Shadow of war" Says that they did mint mithril coils, called Miriam. But sauron desired it above all things, and spent millenia sending his forces to collect every last piece that was known.
@@johnnymcblaze And then made his own dragon's hoard in the bowels of Barad-dur? Because we never see him wearing it, handling things made of it, and despite being an epic craftsman, never making anything of it. It might as well have left the earth, or been lost when the foundations of Barad-dur were finally destroyed.
10x it's weight in gold is just got the raw material
Add Dwarven craftsmanship expertise in the mix and fashion it in something beautiful and sturdy and I think they'd be able to get 100x weight in gold easily.
The fact that they know how to shape it and craft with it is what made them rich, not simply extracting it for whole sale raw ingots, I believe
I hope that we will be able to mine Mithril in the upcoming Moria game, but that it would be very rare and hard to find.
There's an upcoming Moria game? Do you know on what platform(s)?
@@SecularIranian I don't know yet, but considering it would be a multi-player it will probably be avaliable for PC.
@@SecularIranian 2023 Epic Exclusive on pc
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This was a cool one to see. My favorite would be the new and improved Minis Tirith gate.
Are you planning to do a video on the vast forest, Taur-in-Duinath? So little seems to be known about that area.
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So happy to be early to this video!! Mithril was a fascinating metal and topic of discussion. I wonder if some metalologist and chemist would create an artificial element with the properties of Mithril.
maybe also something that shines similar to ithilden, just sadly not magically only in the starlight/moonlight
Creating an element is not easy. From what I remember from college one needs a super-conducting super-collider. The man-made elements decay rapidly.
but it’s still a cool thought, maybe it will be easier 100 or so years from now or something.
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You ought to do a video on the Druedain.
Would it be possible for you to do a video explaining the history of men in Middle Earth similar to your guide to the different clans of elves?
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What a genius idea to release this, two weeks before the last episode of Rings of Power. Right on!
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Awsome episode
This was great 👍
Basically the way Tolkien made plot armor without making it obvious
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I think much like the Silmarils for Morgoth, Sauron horded Mithril simply to covet / posses it.
The explanation of mithril presence at Minas Tirith gate in 3019 TA is awesome.
Fourty years after Durin's Bane, twenty years after the defeat of Angmar in the ruin of the gate of Minas Arnor is 2022 TA.
Do you think the gate of Minas Tirith is planned, in progress or finished in 2022 TA ?
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Could Mithril be a Lord of the Rings universe version of platinum? Some of its properties like "never tarnishing" and the coloration seem to imply this. (Although mithril also has special properties more akin to titanium or zirconium alloys?!)
Mithril is like the perfect alloy, taking the best properties of all natural metals and combine them to the make greatest alloy of all time
No. The armour properties are much much stronger
@@michaelcairns8778 The alloy was ithildin, mithril was just the metal, I believe. No alloying needed for the top-tier in middle earth!
More like there version of virbranium
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A couple of minor points. Vingilot was the ship he sailed TO Valinor with. Later, when he was there (according to Bilbo) "A ship then new, they built for him, of mithril and of elven glass." Also, I'm not sure we can be certain that Bilbo wasn't embellishing the story a little. Plus, Eregion was actually founded by Galadriel, who ruled there for its first 600 years until she left for Lothlorien and Celebrimbor took control.
It was founded by Celeborn and Galadriel.
And, of course, these facts make us hang our heads in sorrow at Amazon's Rings of Power fiasco.
The story of Galadriel and Celeborn is extremely confusing, Tolkien had no clear concept of what they were doing in the Second Age except that they were in Eregion and at some point during the War of the Elves and Sauron went to Lothlorien.
As an organic chemist I really want Mithril to be a real thing. What a catalyst! :-). This was a very nice summary - Thank you.
Even Mithril has such a huge backstory
You would probably make an outstanding Historian and Curator
Imagine being a smith working with Ithildin.
You'd constantly be losing it.
Constantly working the night shift would be annoying too.
Mithril is another thing Rings of Power has corrupted.
I'm not surprised. I thought they were going to do that from the very beginning the instant. I saw one clip of it. That is just another example of people not taking tolkien's legacy seriously
Won’t know never have never will watch that desecration of Tolkien’s works.
They didn't even have too for the story's sake I get they wanted to make it a dramatic event in the show but its origin doesn't matter in the end anyway
@@cozzy4447 it was an amazing show
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Seems to me that Mithril was like what we call platinum. It's also silver in color and doesn't tarnish. It has been used for the perfect setting material for white diamonds for centuries.
I was thinking that titanium is more like mithral. And that elf-food-bread is like challah bread.
@@kirbyculp3449 I see where you are going but challah bread is fluffy, kind of, and Matzo bread or hard tack is closer to Lembas bread. Titanium isn't silver, is it? I went with platinum because of it's durability and above all value. I have two platinum and diamond rings from my grandmothers and they still shine like brand new, without cleaning.
@@snoozieq4584 Well mithril is like diamonds but in metal form, I'd say. Incredibly strong but also so beautiful.
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could you do a video about Eol the dark elf next?
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I always have to wonder what Caradhras was in the first shape of the world that gave it mithril. Maybe the remnants of one of the pillars of the Lamps?
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great video as always. Now let's wait for amazon's version of it...lol
Sweet merciful Heaven. Tolkien himself seems never to have been recorded using an "E" sound in the first syllable of the word 'mithril'. Where did you get the idea to pronounce this word in such an affected manner?
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Is it possible to try to make a video about Echtelion? The books say not much about him and his glory.
I just had a vision of Saruman being so old, he forgot he was just an NPC and thought he was the main character. Searching for an hording all the good loot, choke-hold on the best trade routes, just selfish in gathering wealth and power, not really giving anything back to the world.
Great video and you really highlight just how valuable, and yet misunderstood mithril really was. I loved the part about the elven smiths who were allied in trade with the dwarves.
Thank you.
Pretty sure Sauron gathered all the mithril items he has into a giant heap that he sleeps on.
Small note: "It is worth times times that of gold" does NOT specify "by weight" which would actually diminish the value of Mithril given it's notoriously light weight and the relatively heavy weight of gold even compared to iron. I believe it was 10 times the cost of gold by volume.
I'm no expert in jewellery, but doesn't "worth ten times by weight" mean that the same mass of mithril would be worth ten times the same mass in gold?
I'll make up some numbers to illustrate what I mean: one kg of gold may be worth 10 money units, then one kg of mithril is worth 100 money units
In volume the mithril might end up being much larger though, so I really don't know which measure is usually taken
Wonder what weapon Sauron would have made of True Silver?
what is the name of the music that plays in the video?
Would really love to see a video that helps explain the current year of Rings of Power (1200-1500SA?) and how that aligns with the timeline of the second age. I’m confused how Elendil is in the show now but will be alive and ~136 years old when he fights during the last alliance like 1500 years later.
I think it's lore modification like in Shadow of Mordor/Shadow of War. Compression of time.
“There is no explanation in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this abomination.”
It's called a cash grab. You don't care about the lore just through everything you can in to make money.
When will you do a video about what would happen if Sauron used the balrog/what if Durin's bane survived into the later war of the ring?
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I used to be apart of the server Elendilmir then when it got shut down I moved to Arkenstone. Mithril is pretty cool stuff.
Interesting fun fact. Mithril silver in their world is very similar to silver in our world. Very few people in our world have any idea the industrial applications it has in our industrial world and our silver is actually very magical with amazing healing abilities. Maybe Tolkien had foresight of the true value of silver in our future world
I was thinking titanium for its strength to weight ratio.
Was there any Mithril in the glittering caverns? or where did gimli get the mithril for the City Gate ?
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One thing I hove always been curious about is how did animal-husbandry work for the elves (and other long lived races like the dwarfs). The lifespan of a horse is only like 20, so do they simply get a new one every twenty years (a time period that must seem like a week to a 2000 year old elf). Or are their pets like dogs and horses also immortal?
Pretty sure they are not immortal, although I wouldn't be surprised if they had longer lifespan in elven care, thanks to elven magic and medicine. Also elves can basically talk with animals and tame them instantly so they don't have to spend as much time training them and stuff...
Btw 20 years for 2000 years old elf is 1/100 of his whole life. Like, it's not that much but its nowhere near to feel like just one week...
@@toncek9981 1/100 of human life is about 8-9 months. Would you like to be dog owner knowing it will die before your next birthday?
@@KuK137 I don't think elves would have problem with that if it was the normal thing for them... There are people who train guide dogs for 6 months and then send them to blind people and start training new dog, so even for people it seems to be just ok, once they are adjusted to this... For me it would be unimaginable to give away a dog after few months but for some people it's not.
It's all about context and what you consider to be normal. I imagine that people from alternative universe, where dogs live for decades, wouldn't understand how we can get dogs only for 15 years and be ok with that...
@@KuK137 It would be more akin to gardening from their perspective. Gardeners do not fret that their flowers bloom but once a season and many plants flower only the once before dying. They would raise them with the same perspective on their lifespans. One of the many idle pursuits elves attended to while away eternity.
I mean, rat owners exist...