Swathing Problems... 🤦🏻♂️
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Well, we have ran into a few hiccups with some wiring issues and getting the swath of canola out the hole. This is just "one of those days" type of day.
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Cut a piece of C channel iron the length of the cylinder stroke and put it over the rod so it acts like a safety latch and it will hold that side at the exact height you want it to stay at
For a temporary fix yes
Yes! What I was thinking.. or actual fancy cylinder stops..
You could cap the cylinder oil port (with metal cap) if it's the cylinder, the wheel will still go down.
If it stay up, it's the circuit. Could be the splitter valve or the stack valve.
‘Mike and the Mechanics’. Applies to a very successful Rock group back in the 80’s/90’s too. 😊
We straight cut all our canola. Usually spray a couple thousand of it. While we chew on that it gives the rest time to come in naturally. Did some side by side tests straight cut always had bigger yield and seed size.
In Northern Alberta we have the same issue with canola not wanting to fit in the hole. Our swather also decided to throw a rod so we were on a swather hunt To. Which posed some great difficulty to find one we wanted but we did find a m105 macdon with 30ft head which is to big for us but we ended up only using 23ft of it and hanging 7ft out and swaths dried up beautifully. One of our combines is a 9500 so it still handled it great. Made it easier to ram in the hole and easier on combines. Maybe worth a try to only take a smaller bite.
this is why I am thankful for every farmer. dedication, whatever might come.
Cylender spacers or depth setters would be handy, stop the cylender at 12" height.
Exactly, and a quick, cheap fix.
8:15 in europe we have the cat test, if you throw a cat onto your canola and it doesnt fall through and it can walk on top of it that means its a good crop haha
Who needs labs when you have cats
What if it’s an obese American cat...
@@crandonborth well, if it stands it's a really really good crop hahaha
@@PR1NC3 Well if the cat can walk you do the same test with a labrador
I hope you managed to fix your swather....
I would wager that your accumulator on that side was low of nitrogen.
We have D450's as well and don't really put that many hours on them anymore. We have kept them because mechanically wise they are pretty much indestructible.
We have done some modifications on the heads to make them more canola ready..
We took the swather decks out and made them shorter on the hole side.
You can do this by removing a section close to the roller and then welding it back together and then shortening the canvas accordingly.
(the canvasses have to be driven on the outside to do this)
We added an extra spring to the tensioner and now our canvasses never slip.
We put open top guards on and now down canola in sprayer tracks doesn't bother us anymore.
We added a pea auger that is lower on the outside edges and higher in the middle.
The swather works fantastic now except for the fact that it doesn't flex well through waterways. (that cannot be modified )
Buy a Macdon swather with stub guards and put the rotating cutters on the ends of the header. You will cut any canola with zero piles.
A lot of swathers here in AUS have 25 of 30 foot fronts, they are much better for getting the windrow neat and through the middle
Mike,
Maude Potvin is right; cap the ports to see if it's the cylinder or the circuit. If it's the circuit, you could cap the ports on the cylinder at the correct height and just run it locked.
If it's a new head, maybe you need to bleed the air out of the hydraulic system to that cylinder.
Just let your tyre down on the high side and pump it up on the low Mike lol love your vids
Straight cutting is no longer merely an option for harvesting canola - it’s become “the” harvest option. In many cases, the one-pass alternative has replaced swathing completely.
“The advent of pod shatter-tolerant genetics has made straight cutting canola much more attractive than it is to swath. By and large, farmers are defaulting to straight cutting. In fact, it’s likely over 70 percent of producers in Manitoba do it already, and that number is expected to rise.”
I never really saw swathing canola here in middle Europe.
Mike, that pin is to far out, you can see where it's supposed to be and without that pin in the cylinder pushes to far in. put that puppy in and it'll work!
I feel you .I worked with one this summer .it gave us a lot of grief 🤐
Hi Mike, how about Ashtyn using her father's swather (if its available) while you spend a day at home with Chapel? To be honest you look shattered & could do with the rest & I suspect Ashtyn would be only to happy to take the strain & enjoy a day or two farming. That's what makes a great team & successful marriage Mike, you'll feel so much better for some home time with your son. Anyways, just thought I'd mention it, sometimes the obvious solutions are the hardest to see. Looking forward to your next video already. 😍🇬🇧
Don’t talk shite mark. Crack on and get the job done. Lots of time for rest when your dead ☠️ love from the uk 🇬🇧 😂
It is the wheel cylinder on the left side
Our d450 had a pressure transducer on one side of the header that was bad. It couldn’t give a code for it for some reason so it took awhile to find it. It was acting like yours is tho when it happened. Hope that help. Thanks for the content
Your diagnosis is probably the best I've read so far, so thanks for the input. I tend to find people that have had & solved similar problems are generally the best ones to listen to. 👍🇬🇧
Yeah the bad transducer was making the potentiometer values out of range for one of the wheels I believe and that’s why it wouldn’t calibrate
I just bought a JD W235 with a disc mower 500r on it. The right hand cylinder or accumulator seems to have an issue because I have to keep turning up the pressure on it every 15 minutes or so...It does seem like they've made it easier to adjust the float on the W235 compared to the d450. The cab is really quiet in the W235 as well. It seems like a well built machine. Much better than the MacDon M205 I have.
Magnifique vidéo et la moissonneuse et bien équipés
A piece of wood and a ratchet strap wedged in beside the cylinder would temporarily fix the problem.
There must be a nitrogen accumulator in that float system that is playing up , or a valve that is bypass the the float and dumping, haven’t worked on those ones but they are not normally difficult to sort.
It could be because it's had a mower on with one side of the mower being heavier so it's calibrated to push more pressure to one side.
Swath it the low spots will not dry out. We farm by Raymore Sask and if we had a nice swather like you we would’ve swathed it. And we even sprayed it and it still wouldn’t dry down
I will cross my fingers on both hands and hope things go smoother from now on. Stay positive, things always work out. Best of luck, from north eastern Ontario.
I'd say it's a lame cylinder.
Trade it in for Macdon. A real swather.
kinda interesting swather, 70series combine cab with a new corner post display.
Stop collars on the cylinder rod. Love your videos!
On our case swather it does the same there are pressure numbers for float on each side go on you screen find header float the adjust it for each side make them even like one mite be 950 the other will be 1200 that will cause that. Our case does that I like it for cutting hay on pivot tracks I can raise on side up to ride over them while the other side stays down if it was the old way I cut it high on both sides.
Have Ashtyn run the swather and you stand on the high end and hold it down. Simple solution.
Sometimes I think there is to much technology in this equipment
Sounds like the piston seal gone. Take the ram of and replace seals. Won’t take to long if you can get a seal kit
Did you try turn it off and on again? 😉
And I tried rice 😆
You’ll notice the difference when that canola goes through the combine , cut in rain vs dry , the stuff knocked down in the rain will flow through the combine like nothing
Let the air out of right tire 😂😂😂😂
Sounds like a blown packing in the cylinder either get a packing kit or new cylinder
keep up the good work.
Mike I know EVERY farm is different we are 6 hours north of your north farm we harvest 2000ac of canola every year. I’ve never dessicated an acre in my life and never owned a swather and we always finish b4 everyone else #selltheswather #biggeryields #lessheadache #moremoneyinyourjeans 😜
Just put the left-hand cylinder on the right side and right-hand side on the left......😎 Might solve the problem
I hear you use metric and imperial system pretty much 50/50. What do you think is easier to use? Personally I think metric is 100 times easier.
Mike look into the heads they use for Rice combining, they're a blue colored head that just takes off the tops of the rice plants and leaves the stalks.
Those wouldn't do well in canola I don't think. Especially if you mean he should look into them for swathing.
@@egomania2792 no, this only takes the top off the stem!
@@rickk6447 my man, have you seen Canola? There is no one stem, that shit looks like a tree. Your suggestion wouldn't work. It would leave TONS UPON TONS of canola seeds on the ground. Also, canola is a bjtch to combine in the first place, because while the seef pods are very fragile, the plant itself is very stringy. Your header idea simply. WOULDN'T. WORK.
Stripper fronts do not work on canola
Hi Mike. Have you not got a manual tilt on the header. It may be more difficult to operate but you could keep going.
We had same header on a 9870sts and was doing same thing, turned out the accumulator needed charged.
That's been done already 👍but didn't fix it
Great video Mike
As much as I wanna joke about it being a JD I'm sure any color paint could have a wiring issue. Best of luck
Just throw some ram stops on it to the height you need. And drive carefully!
Try the old snap on cylinder stops
I always learn from Mike’s-- mr Jones
Do a internal leak test on that cylinder!!!
Sounds like a bad cylinder leaking down, hope you got whatever it is figured out.
Let all the air out of the tires on the header high side this is how you level a header on the John Deere
There is a sequence to level hydraulically. Do ours regularly, talk yo dealer or maybe manual.
Also the swather heads will float should the wheels be rigid. If you were to block the ram from collapsing and use header height resume instead of flex? Rough it to get through the year and once it's all cut have a better look at it to get it fixed
Hey Mike, go to 7:50 into your video, your talking about the L cylinder, is it me or does it look like the pin is out? If that's supposed to be pushed all the way in, that could be why it's hanging low on the left side! It almost looks like it's about ready to fall out. I pinned two pics for ya
Morning
Hello Mike 🤦♂️🤞🇮🇹
Still like all your videos!! Here in NC
Header height issues are following you from one piece of equipment to another.
Need some "Sky Hooks" to hold the low end up 😂🤣
our plow had a leaking cylinder. we had to take the adjustable tie rod, to continue working while repairing.
Btw Mike, idk if the thumbnail was edited or not but it looked great 👌
Remove the hydraulic cylinders and category 1 tractor center links and adjust to hight but your two weeks behind
Have you tried to sleeve that side with some wood and zip ties? Might work as a temp fix
If I were you I would go buy a new one. 😂. That would solve all issues.
We have all been there when it’s time to get something done and a breakdown happens. Murphy’s law!
Looks like you had a good yr up north. You must be close to finishing by now?
Please Mike … pick those wheels up move the reel forward 12 to 18 in ,,,you’ll de doing 10 mph,,
Catch you on the dry side Mike 🤣
Not good mike , great awesome video mike
Flip the hose with the one that works
Maybe stupid question but why not use 75 % of the width of your swather. Less crop feeds better
I actually tried that but didn't prevail due to the head taking too much straw on the one side.
I'd say replace both cylinders that goes to those wheels and that's 50% fixed and the sensor could be the other 50%
I bet Ashtyn was saying you should have bought a Case swather. 🤣
Lol only one step worse then the swather he is in and that’s is the CNH swather.
Should have got a swather with a honeybee header on it or get a Mac Deere swather 😊
Bought yourself a pup there Mike.😮
are the cylinders the same for both sides? if they are different see if they are on the proper sides. the left side carries more weight.
Mike is actually the third McKenzi brother. He is in the witness protection program,Eh!! Cracks me up every time, Eh. Nothing ever works when you try and do it in the rain,Eh.
Hole size not adjustable? Mac Don's used to be able to adjust each table. Perhaps the JD's hole is a wide as she goes?
Shad Potter is Harry Potters uncle right? Gotta be frustrating to have issues on newer equipment.
Finished straight cutting our canola crop today our farms been swathing canola for the last 25 years not about to swath anymore straight cut is very nice
Yes I like straight cutting too 🙂
@@mikemitchell2554 looking forward to see that x9 munch down some 50 bu canola 😎
Maybe the problem isn't the side hanging low but the other side is hanging high. Just saying. Good luck
Mike i have a question, what does swathing the green patches do to it Maturity wise?
You need to buy yourself a brand new combine, Mike. Maybe get two of them.🤣😇
maybe corn
or grass for seed
U nead 20 JD for one weekend to harvest all
Could you use cylinder stops
Ivor McGill is a custom swathing guy. Just a thought.
Could you have just put those removable collars on the ram?
Sounds like you may have air in the hydraulic lines.
You should demo a macdon swather
He did last yr and those will cut circles around any other swather!
beautiful machine despite your issues. No trouble with the swath drying all the way through?
That’s a contradiction
i think the middle of the Zylinder is defect. Do you found the problem or what do you do now?
How yeild is gonna look in canola
LMAO roll with the punches from crap Deere.
I suppose all the other makes are trouble free
@@kenhofer8063 I suppose if you had a Deere you would feel special. Gleaner can be fixed Deere you will be waiting to fix because you need bolts an oh you can just lose bolts that you payed for an cost you 800,000.00. Good job Deere, Be proud. LMAO, only a farmer would spend that much on crap. You need a 🔩 Lol.
Nvm. His video jus answered my question
It’s caused by gravitational force from Uranus. 😂😂😂
Problem is you bought a JD swather lol
Cylinder leaking internally maybe.
When you get it harvested, haul it to America and flood the market
Can anyone explain to me why swathing is faster because you have to go over the field twice right
Get a macdon problem solved
Agreed
Why don’t right it off?