Why I QUIT Coding (as an ex-Google programmer). ChatGPT won't save us.

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  • @TechLead
    @TechLead  Před rokem +34

    Learn to build a successful business on CZcams from scratch: youtubebackstage.com/
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    • @blo0m1985
      @blo0m1985 Před rokem +6

      really?

    • @InThisStyleGMinor
      @InThisStyleGMinor Před rokem +5

      😂😂

    • @mohammadanwar9848
      @mohammadanwar9848 Před rokem +3

      what do you think of Ben Awad who is coding the next billion dollar app gaming company? Isn't it the fact that coding isn't the thing but rather coding + creativity can get you somewhere?

    • @tomski2671
      @tomski2671 Před rokem

      @@mohammadanwar9848 Because of AI only creativity will matter in a few years.

    • @savantofillusions
      @savantofillusions Před rokem

      Are you getting a free house in Japan yet? Has Japan offered you a job yet to get you to move back there? You’re a Japanese American who managed to produce an offspring. They should pay you just to live there and have ten kids.

  • @fragezeichen9096
    @fragezeichen9096 Před rokem +945

    Next video: Why I started coding again (as a millionaire)

  • @andyhunt5150
    @andyhunt5150 Před rokem +1

    “I quit coding but make sure to go to my website. “ Dude. WTF?

  • @bernadofelix
    @bernadofelix Před rokem +778

    AI Stocks are pretty unstable at the moment, but if you do the right math, you should be just fine. Bloomberg and other finance media have been recording cases of folks gaining over 250k just in a matter of weeks/couple months, so I think there are a lot of wealth transfer in this downtime if you know where to look.

    • @SandraDave.
      @SandraDave. Před rokem +2

      Mind if I ask you recommend this particular professional you use their service? i have quite a lot of marketing problems

  • @riddion2
    @riddion2 Před 6 měsíci +1

    When I was around 10 in 1983 I realized I wanted to be a programmer, not because I wanted to be rich but to create something. I looked at it as my own Lego set where the possibilities were endless. Now I still feel this way. We are creators where the building blocks change over time and we have to adapt to it. I must admit that I feel a little threatened by AI but at the end of the day what we do isn't just coding, which is easy, but creating, solving problems, giving advise to customers.
    That Lego set is still there. Please don't be dismayed by this man who has lost his edge.

    • @lawrencequick7218
      @lawrencequick7218 Před 4 měsíci

      Better tools abstract the mundane steps to help us better actualize out creative endevors.

  • @TheJacrespo
    @TheJacrespo Před rokem +3

    It is much easier than that: the golden age of the IT field was largely due to enormous financial bubbles created by free money with negative interest rates. Once the financial bubble bursts, IT jobs disappear, leaving countless unemployed individuals and resulting in low salaries. This is what is happening now.

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak Před rokem

      I was blue collar worker for most of my life and started to learn smth to transition to white collar. But it seems, blue collar will soon take over anyway :D

  • @Babaelow
    @Babaelow Před 7 měsíci +1

    Diffrent title: Being useful isn't paying well - so stop being useful

  • @avonnabors
    @avonnabors Před rokem +33

    A lot of people’s “business” is telling people to start a business lol

    • @1adamuk
      @1adamuk Před rokem +11

      I'm rich > I know how to get rich > pay me and I'll tell you > the secret is sell people this secret. Oldest trick in the book.

    • @zughbor
      @zughbor Před rokem

      @@1adamuk wow, let's have something real here !

    • @zughbor
      @zughbor Před rokem

      you are totally right most of milliners millionairesdo that

    • @Mark1Mach2
      @Mark1Mach2 Před rokem

      @@1adamuk haha very well put my friend.

    • @tomsmith6513
      @tomsmith6513 Před měsícem

      @@1adamuk lol . . . it's like that guy running courses for . . . being a high-ticket closer . . . what on earth is that? No idea . . . but here in my garage . . . I have books . . . and with books, you can get knowledge . . . and with knowledge, you can buy a lamborgini
      again . . . HERE IN MY GARAGE!!!

  • @DJminor92
    @DJminor92 Před měsícem +1

    I think the problem here is this guy has been so successful that what looks like success to the average person is meaningless to him.

    • @vipcypr8368
      @vipcypr8368 Před měsícem +1

      I think that the guy was so gready that for what looks like success to him most people call lack of dignity

  • @cryptoinside8814
    @cryptoinside8814 Před rokem +3

    Coding career is tough. When you have a critical bug and all the eyes are on you to resolve it, you simply don't sleep until that problem is solved....and sometimes it's not obvious to solve that problem and that's why you get paid the big bucks in exchange for your sleep.

  • @user-zx2ol9js4y
    @user-zx2ol9js4y Před rokem +2

    The real world has no more resources to support industry to grow exponentially. Nearly all things are monetized, including people's time and perception (sight, hearing, touching, emotion), that are invaded by ads, tweets, shorts, videos, games. The economy just hit phisical limit of nature, and that's why big company closed source to monopolize profit, there is no way to get a big growth and no good oppertunity for normal people.

  • @vantagepointmoon
    @vantagepointmoon Před rokem +7

    "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." -Robert A. Heinlein

  • @maskman5158
    @maskman5158 Před 11 měsíci +2

    No offense but he is such a negative person 😄
    Some of his video titles:-
    - My wife left me
    - Why my wife left me
    - I got fired from Facebook
    - I lost my job at Google
    - I am retiring early
    - I hate my life and want to end it ( upcoming)

  • @SlideSugar
    @SlideSugar Před rokem +2

    Chat GPT is probably the juiciest target for governments. For years they could not use most of the data they collected because of the sheer volume and lack of ability to get context or motives. But now every employee who's using it to rewrite a sensitive email or product pitch or apology by a government official to his wife is now all available in one centralized place. I don't expect ChatGPT to be trusted in the future when the full vulnerability of it to nation state actors becomes more apparent.
    Am I wrong?

  • @nalcow
    @nalcow Před rokem +1

    The evolution of software dev Is software 2.0. Coding and programmers Will evolve not replaced.

  • @davidgavney6711
    @davidgavney6711 Před rokem +451

    I was a programmer before Techlead was probably even born, lol, but was always behind the bleeding edge in my career and always chasing the latest and greatest in trends. As soon as I'd get a job in it, there would be lots of other technologies taking off somewhere else ahead of me. I knew of people a little older than me who were one of the first COBOL programmers and were making the big bucks and getting corner offices just for coding in COBOL, so it's all about riding the wave of the latest hotness like the FANG companies are doing now. Coding didn't start with FANG. Also, since I've been programming, there was always some tool coming out to replace the programmer, but it never seemed to happen, coding languages just evolved.

    • @mirijekayis347
      @mirijekayis347 Před rokem +18

      Thank you for sharing these insights!!! I have to say as a web developer I am a little concerned, as I see a lot of people using AI tools to code and basically we are getting faster, but maybe also more lazy and not as sharp, since we use tools to do OUR job. Idk!

    • @thermalreboot
      @thermalreboot Před rokem +20

      This is true, but by the time you know where the next trend is going you're behind. I remember when TCL/TK was hot, when PHP was hot, when Flash was hot, when Ruby was hot. I know it took me by surprise when Python became top dog. How long will Python remain at the top?

    • @treplay8846
      @treplay8846 Před rokem +7

      I think its about risk...if you are programming, its just a skill , you are just taking instructions....and if you are chasing trends ...you are not bearing risk...you can't expect to make it big...its just econmics and capital markets

    • @n8ged8
      @n8ged8 Před rokem +14

      @@mirijekayis347 As a programmer you could use AI tools yourself to be ahead of those others who don't understand coding. You could be more productive and/or creative with that tools so you are still wanted and get your money out of it instead of being replaced, I think.

    • @adancewithgod
      @adancewithgod Před rokem +7

      It anin't ever gonna happen. Tools will just get better. AI is just a better tool.

  • @Felice_Enellen
    @Felice_Enellen Před 8 měsíci +1

    Not much to argue with here. Most of the important work in programming has been done already and we're in the realm of diminishing returns on effort to create new APIs and such. Even in industries where there's frequently a lot of new product, like video games, most of the code is already written and all you have left of "programming" is scripters writing game or glue logic. The only real programmers left are the handful who work on maintaining existing massive APIs like Unreal. Everyone else just licenses the tech and doesn't hire real programmers.

  • @MrTodayistheday
    @MrTodayistheday Před rokem +53

    The biggest misnomer is that anybody can enter the IT industry and succeed. The industry is competitive, difficult, and dynamic. If a person does not have a genuine interest, they will burn out quickly.

  • @warsurplus
    @warsurplus Před 10 měsíci +2

    Can you make this video again please, but as a millionaire instead of just as an ex-Google programmer?

  • @fxcomm24
    @fxcomm24 Před rokem +3

    Lots of programmers are still making a ton of money out there. Sure it's not a gold rush anymore, but to say it's dying and a dead-end job with no money is out-of-touch and insane. 100s of hours of leetcode for a 75k job? What planet does this guy live on? Most people I know who have done this much leetcode make 300-500k. TechLead is basically saying here that all doctors do is give a diagnosis, and that everything that isn't related to content creation or air pods is garbage. Seriously what has he been smoking. Making crazy statements like "programmers should never have gotten this far", when the most valuable companies in the world are software companies. Why spread so much misinformation and narrow view of the world.

    • @josephbishara4791
      @josephbishara4791 Před rokem +1

      Don't take what TechLead says so literally. He's just a CZcams content creator/influencer who is skilled at creating engaging content that triggers unconscious and conscious reactions in the brains of people. In the digital age, content is king. Whether the content is right or wrong is a different debate.

  • @glitchgod3868
    @glitchgod3868 Před rokem +1

    You quit because grifting is much more profitable

  • @itsothie1196
    @itsothie1196 Před rokem +320

    I'm a programmer and as far as I know the software engineering industry is gonna grow exponentially, let not some CZcamsr looking for following mislead you, the app development market is still hot. It's just your thought that limits you. And besides alot of the corners of software engineering are so untouched...
    Think of robotics, quantum computing, etc...

    • @Misanthrope84
      @Misanthrope84 Před rokem

      That's exactly true. Nobody should listen to this fraudster.

    • @mandlenkosingcobo9608
      @mandlenkosingcobo9608 Před rokem +16

      Yeah Africa is a gold mine for robotics, ChatGPT doesn't execute in the real world and man does. High quality low cost tech is in high demand.

    • @pjf7044
      @pjf7044 Před rokem +20

      Lol yeah can’t tell if this video is sarcastic humor or not

    • @FA-sr6lx
      @FA-sr6lx Před rokem +12

      ​@@pjf7044 you must be new around here

    • @felipe4477
      @felipe4477 Před rokem +33

      Listen techlead. I see a lot of myself in you. You seem to be going through tough times.
      My advice is that you stop indulging in your nihilism. Been there done that…
      As for what you want to do. Stop after chasing money. This strategy never works on the long run.
      Just focus on something you enjoy and in which you provide excellence. You are a smart man, so you can easily strive to be the best.

  • @tigerscott2966
    @tigerscott2966 Před rokem

    "Humans are easily fooled by hope...(religion)
    And randomness. " (cable television and porn. )
    That's the coolest statement I've heard in years...

  • @snailsfrogslegs119
    @snailsfrogslegs119 Před rokem +3

    I believe that most software engineering jobs have been make-work jobs for a very long time now. Meaning... they are totally unnecessary to the business that hires them and were just there to burn through investment money and justify large managerial salaries. Now the money is tight and the rug has been pulled out from under the profession. As for apps... they are unnecessary expenses in a time of nascent poverty. The big hope of "coding" to bring people out of poverty and into a middle class life... is mostly over. All IMHO.

  • @mouthpiece200
    @mouthpiece200 Před rokem +1

    Any job that pays 75K or more I can't consider a bad one.

  • @xamidi
    @xamidi Před rokem +95

    I was never interested in coding apps for other people, I use programming to write tools for myself, for example to support my research in theoretical computer science. This is a lot of fun and very useful. In general, I think it is a bad decision to do what you do mostly for money but not out of interest. Also, most math professors love what they do, most people working in industry, do not.

    • @lorenzozapaton4031
      @lorenzozapaton4031 Před rokem +4

      This, people want to learn programming for money, that's not bad but learning programming to support your life, it's way better. Also, there are better (and more profitable) ways to make money than programming.

    • @lach888c2
      @lach888c2 Před rokem +1

      This seems like where programming will go. All those ML models are heavily reliant on huge quantities of accurate, clean data. So data manipulation and curation is the next big thing in programming.

    • @FlockofSmeagles
      @FlockofSmeagles Před 8 měsíci +1

      Same, I'm a maker, and I use my (limited) skills to supplement my projects.

    • @attilasarkany6123
      @attilasarkany6123 Před 7 měsíci +1

      same. i am writing advanced maths tools mostly for analysis for myself.

  • @djnima
    @djnima Před 2 měsíci

    when as a middle age programmer you first hear about Roblox from a 6 year old, you know you have to move on...

  • @thesunchaser582
    @thesunchaser582 Před rokem +14

    It still hard to find in these days a qualified eletrician, or a stone mason, a pipeliner or whatever. Compromissed people are rare to find even in the most simple labors/services. U can still make the difference doing whatever u've been doing.

  • @steve6429
    @steve6429 Před rokem

    Fascinating content. Ty

  • @jcentricity
    @jcentricity Před rokem +7

    I got out of programming and became Enterprise Architect / Solution Architect because programming jobs are being outsourced over seas

  • @MrAbrazildo
    @MrAbrazildo Před rokem

    11:51, I 100% agree.

  • @BboyKeny
    @BboyKeny Před rokem +4

    Programmer here, doing entrepreneurship for the bucks. I think the difference with coder -> entrepreneur between now and then is that now you need to get into business management, design, marketing and sales. Which means you need to learn psychology and statistics / data science.
    Although knowing coding really helps automating processes and gives you a birds eye view on the product you're building.

  • @easygamingwwiigamingchanne729

    Photography and videography did not die out because of high demand for visual and video content.

  • @enricogolfieri4187
    @enricogolfieri4187 Před rokem +76

    There no profession in history that flooded you with money. Since ever entrepreneurs made the money. If it happened for you to be one in the past with software engineering skills then even better. But software engineers that made millions where entrepreneur first. What's changing now is that in order to build something big you need a team. Who has best social skills wins. As always been

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 Před rokem +9

      Remember my friend the rule of thumb in business: the boss (or house) gets 3x your salary in value. One-third goes to the boss as profit, one-third pays for your overhead, and one-third is your salary. So if boss is paying you $200k a year in salary, he's actually getting $600k in value (or more) from you. And if he/she is not, you might want to update your resume...

    • @takoflame4948
      @takoflame4948 Před rokem +4

      well at the end of the day its sales. ppl like buying stuff from ppl they like

    • @pjf7044
      @pjf7044 Před rokem +2

      Being an entrepreneur is having a team (employees).

  • @meteorshorts
    @meteorshorts Před rokem +1

  • @PinakiGupta82Appu
    @PinakiGupta82Appu Před rokem +77

    Whether ChatGPT or other AI models are capable enough or gimmickry is a whole other debate. In my observation, they are quite useful while learning a new programming language or a framework or procedure library. They are excellent at explaining medium-size codes (below 200 lines after which they will reject the input). They are reasonably good at generating small code samples for someone since the user will have to modify the code in any way. People are not using ChatGPT that much very recently. How many of us want to work all day to learn, read, observe etc.? People want entertainment. Ultimately, people will spend the remaining time they have on Facebook, after a day-long work. They'll watch CZcams videos, Snapchat short videos, and TikTok dances. Mindless scrolling relieves our frustrations and boredom with our daily repetitive experiences. Even after getting banned, there are some new ebook websites still operational. Those places are helping students so much. Without them, students would find a hard time getting the quality information needed to complete their courses. However, how many of us visit those sites to download books? Even if some of us do, how many such people bother reading what they've downloaded? I'm not an exception. Although, I try my best to use what I download. People have limited time. On top of that, so many aspects of modern life make people impatient, anxious, worried and what's not. Many professions are already dead for years, and it is totally unrelated to the AI revolution. Agriculture, food, medicine, infrastructure development, and alternative sources of energy are a few noteworthy fields with prospects to flourish. After ten years, the world will be a completely different place that will change how people work forever. AI will not overtake humanity. AI will accelerate the revolution. Many people will slowly lose their jobs so they will have to diversify their fields of work. As for software development, maintainers will be required. Programming will be a common part of the school/college curriculum. Some schools are already teaching C++ in the ninth standard.

    • @mabdurrehman3222
      @mabdurrehman3222 Před rokem

      Explaiend with excellence

    • @never_give_up944
      @never_give_up944 Před rokem +3

      Underappreciated comment, thanks for writing out your thoughts so eloquently!

    • @thebicycleman8062
      @thebicycleman8062 Před rokem

      @pinaki u r sooo short sighted if u don't think that code maintenance can be done by gpt5 then I highly doubt ur intelligence level or understanding of coding.

    • @Osamaolama
      @Osamaolama Před rokem

      What are the new ebook websites ? Asking for a student 😊

    • @dijoxx
      @dijoxx Před 9 měsíci

      You are all over the place.

  • @PinealProductions.
    @PinealProductions. Před rokem +1

    Why don’t you just do something you love instead of wasting your life doing things you don’t for money ?

  • @evanmcarthur3067
    @evanmcarthur3067 Před rokem +4

    8:17 Oh my Goodness he nailed it!
    I went to college from 2004 to 2009 and got a Degree and a Minor too, then I did some “ finding myself” for a few years then went to school again for IT in 2011, luckily I went on a study abroad to Japan.
    Supposed have been for 9 months but I hit the ground running failed two classes but found work and a wife and got a job at start up using some web application for kids I slapped together while teaching, they gave me some school to manage and then a few thousands to start my own school.
    I bring in less than a teacher in America but I got experience of opening and managing a brand.
    I’ll be poor but I think I’ll be a poor person’s leader lol.
    It’s a blood bath out there!
    If you didn’t get good connections growing up or from school are talented and lucky
    It’s just drudgery and depression.
    For me it’s drudgery minus depression 😅

  • @blackandwhitebharathistory

    Moral of the story : get out of coding as soon as possible.

  • @Blackread
    @Blackread Před rokem +4

    CZcams channels that do just "ultra graphics" game engine footage without any commentary definitely aren't getting hundreds of thousands of views. Even Digital Dreams, one of the most popular channels in the genre and featured on this video, typically only gets maybe 20-30 thousand views on their videos. Pretty graphics are nice, but people want to watch other people. It's just how humans are built.

  • @sybiomorph
    @sybiomorph Před 9 měsíci

    They used to pay switchboard operators but now everyone is one and we are getting billed instead.

  • @MrSkavenger
    @MrSkavenger Před rokem +3

    Honestly as someone learning to code now, I’m not looking to be a millionaire from it or even close. I’m just looking to get out a Shitty paying and into a career path on something I like. I’ll take 70-100k without hesitation, way more than I’m making now.

  • @lanceblack888
    @lanceblack888 Před rokem

    This is probably the most sagacious video I’ve ever watched 👍👍👍

  • @DreambudTechnologyAI
    @DreambudTechnologyAI Před rokem +13

    Why bro , Why ? As a Millionaire this Guy gave up on Coding. He needs a Major Paradigm Shift. We the Coders will never give up on Coding. We will come back bigger and stronger and as a Millionaire.

  • @wemustgo
    @wemustgo Před rokem

    Op: Why I quit coding
    Audience: Because you can not

  • @TLPmediaUSA
    @TLPmediaUSA Před rokem +3

    Going back to school for my 2nd degree in social work. The IT job reqs for intro positions are insane. AI can spit out more code in a second than I could type in an hour.

    • @alkebabish
      @alkebabish Před rokem +1

      I quit social work and went back into coding 😂 but I've only ever worked freelance cos I found 9-5 development jobs soul-crushing

  • @cat-avenger1371
    @cat-avenger1371 Před rokem

    Patrick, you are my hero.

  • @JonPeroutka
    @JonPeroutka Před rokem +20

    I think the reason we're not seeing big viral apps lately is because the space has become more decentralized over time. Although there's still big tech assets which don't have APIs currently, theres still lots of integration between disparate entities which has developed over the last decade. This allows firms more opportunity to focus on specific niches without having to duplicate a specific competency that another player already has enabled and can be integrated with. So, I think we're still seeing the overall industry grow rapidly, but with a larger number of smaller and more focused entities within it. And those types of firms aren't going to go viral usually.
    It feels like there's fewer moonshots in tech, but with AI gaining relevance, purpose, and intelligence, there's a whole new greenfield space to capitalize in with software. AI is still extremely limited in what it can do, and a big factor in enabling it's potential will be unlocked with integrations alone.
    I do agree with the significance of the "Social Media OS". Social media is in many respects the central place for the internet. Most people check their social media more than any other digital platform throughout the day. You want to be where your target audience already is, so it makes sense to build within and around social media.

  • @OsazemenGmrYT
    @OsazemenGmrYT Před rokem

    Guy crushed my dreams in 10 minutes.

  • @rafiqmuhamad8251
    @rafiqmuhamad8251 Před rokem +11

    If you are talking about public consumer end, probably. But there are tons of programming jobs in the business backend and operation side. Software development is not just looking into the FANG dimension where the general mass is their main target.

    • @alexeysamokhin9629
      @alexeysamokhin9629 Před 9 měsíci

      Moreover, consumers are difficult to deal with and are poor, mostly.
      The money is made in enterprises.

  • @DrsHWolfenstein
    @DrsHWolfenstein Před rokem +5

    I learned to program to build my own business. And I love solving problems. Don't get distracted.

  • @DenesCanTellYou
    @DenesCanTellYou Před rokem

    Now that you stopped coding, I can finally come up with my new framework.

  • @mentalstatement
    @mentalstatement Před rokem

    I still don’t get how people who go to a 3 month coding boot camp can get a job making 100-200k / year. An engineering manager in a traditional field does not get paid that much

  • @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559

    Not everyone can be a content creator, people need to consume the content.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 Před rokem

      There's probably money in that...like peanuts. Reminds me when I lived in LA and I was asked to join a "focus group" that would pay you a small amount of money to sample something...I never went, was too busy making coin. Now that I'm retired I would go.

    • @compilererror
      @compilererror Před rokem

      other content creators

  • @hmenorjr
    @hmenorjr Před rokem

    Is it just me or anyone got dizzy watching this video? I was half-way of the video when I noticed why. The camera keeps zooms-in and zooms-out automatically like it was refocusing. 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

  • @fluffyhoundog
    @fluffyhoundog Před rokem +10

    I can relate. I’ve worked in software development in the medical devices industry for decades, and I recently retired early and moved to Asia with my wife and child. I think I left the field at the right time as many of our jobs were going to overseas workers who get paid less than us Americans. The work is still there, there are many more developers, but they are mostly now overseas in South Asia.

    • @yovngrahhh
      @yovngrahhh Před rokem

      Wow. I was going to school do be a CRNA but I was really considering being a SD because the birth of only baby recently for some “pros” of a SD

  • @expeditionbasset
    @expeditionbasset Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great humor sprinkled in with actual useful advice. Love it

  • @ReparadorAficionado
    @ReparadorAficionado Před rokem +5

    Yes, I´m refactoring legacy code on maintenance mode. 😄

  • @bemlok
    @bemlok Před rokem +1

    So the main message is "learn what the users are doing". I mean, it supposed to he one of the main things to learn right?

  • @h.f.9238
    @h.f.9238 Před rokem +10

    I love this guy! He keeps me so fuc**** entertained.

  • @Underview
    @Underview Před 10 měsíci +1

    As a millionaire, I’m extremely miserable…

  • @jdubz8173
    @jdubz8173 Před rokem +330

    I've personally never really looked at being a coder as "the" job. More like it's part of what I enjoy doing; making things; solving interesting problems. I suppose that's why I don't view machine learning as a threat. Just another tool to learn and leverage. If I were to give my kids advise on a career to pursue, I'd tell them not to even think about "careers". Just pursue what you think will be valuable to you and to the most people in the market. Ideally it's something most other people don't want to do so there's actual value. Who knows what that'll be in the coming years. Not really wise to put your eggs in one basket. Better to follow tech leads in the industry you're interested in and work on things you are passionate about. Keep the challenge going.

    • @takoflame4948
      @takoflame4948 Před rokem +6

      yeah but ppl have become entitled. I have a degree so i should have a job.

    • @blckgenius
      @blckgenius Před rokem +5

      This is sound advice, Thanks

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi Před rokem +6

      ​@@takoflame4948 its not their fault as individuals tho.. that was fed to them from a young age, and they were bombarded witj advertisement and false stories about what their life's path would look like if they did x or y or z. Of course they could have thought outside the box but everyone is just so worried about if they will even get a job that its rly just a minority of people who can do that compared to the rest.
      And to be fair in a near future most jobs wont be safe so i simpathize with them.

    • @remedytee
      @remedytee Před rokem +5

      If you like to solve interesting problems... that's great. Will you still like it when ML can do it better than you, and your activity virtually has no more value? I graduated in AI in 2003. Done Java, Python, quite a bit of frontend... there are very little 'interesting' problems to me other than custom shaders, neural network architectures (the things you don't find on StackOverflow), the rest is plain business logic, keeping up to date with programming paradigms (OOP to functional) and learning frameworks. I don't consider it real programming. Also the communities are so volatile (jumping from one to the other), changing their mind just to make up for their own flaws.
      I've stopped programming some time ago, there are other interesting functions in IT. However, as pointed out by the TechLead, AI might be the exception. Not claiming to be able to able to code, train and deploy GPT like networks, but I do believe that with some creativity interesting products/services can still be made (based on efforts by Google, Facebook, Berkeley University e.a.). Transfer learning methods/downstream tasks...
      Too many people claiming to be programmers, and to be 'in' tech whilst doing stuff that can be taught to an 8 year old.
      I do agree with you about following your passion, and especially to keep the challenge going, we'll definitely have to. Not to optimistic though, when AI improves in terms of usability (cf Sam Altman's remarks on ChatGPT), I don't think we'll need a lot of analysts neither.

    • @jdubz8173
      @jdubz8173 Před rokem +6

      @@remedytee I have the strong inclination to write several paragraphs in response to this, lol. I don't know what the future holds, but I do remember Y2K. A whole lot of tech-oriented fear for next to no payoff. I think the best thing we can do is not buy into the fear and just take the information we gain for what it is.

  • @aleksandardawidpetrovich4539

    07:23 - the new model

  • @pmarreck
    @pmarreck Před rokem +44

    I think there’s success potential in being “1 degree away” from direct coding. For example, after coding for 20 years I am trying to be a software auditor/PM: A nontechnical company would hire me as an advocate for them between themselves and another technical firm they are hiring to do some work for them, and my responsibilities would include code reviews, recommendations to both sides, and writing reports. Without 20 years+ of coding, I wouldn’t be able to do that work

    • @bonenintomatensaus
      @bonenintomatensaus Před rokem +1

      Couldn't you start an internship at an auditing company and start your career there? Is 20 years as a software developer the only way?

    • @pmarreck
      @pmarreck Před rokem

      @@bonenintomatensaus I’m sure it can be done with less “time in service.” But there’s a reason why most people in the functional-language space are seniors, for example. They all learned the hard way that that’s the best way to write code (in terms of bug frequency, testability, maintainability etc.) Remarkably, there’s scant empirical evidence to support this, however. If I ever make a ton of money again, I will absolutely fund some research there
      But yes, you could be a very good code auditor with less time, assuming that time was spent pretty intensely. A lot of the pieces about why certain coding forms are “way less than ideal” unfortunately only come from lots of experience, however

    • @pmarreck
      @pmarreck Před rokem

      @@bonenintomatensaus what I'm saying, though, is that if you are tired of coding as a career, "code-adjacent" careers exist, which are potentially even more lucrative.
      For example, I can’t explain the joy at making the leader of another coding team stutter in self-defense as I asked calm but pointed questions as to why they were jerking around my friend, who was employing them at the time, but who I knew they were also bullshitting and milking for cash. They were literally unable to bullshit me, and this was worth money to my friend, who happily paid me for being able to “talk the talk” that he could not.

  • @imanqoly
    @imanqoly Před rokem

    Why choosing to be programmer is tied to going viral or making money by coding is dependent on google and Facebook never going to be released APIs? Who said programming is only putting apps in app stores? There is tons of business specific applications, custom personalized apps, IoT apps, automation apps, surveillance apps and tens more. If you feel your career path is ended or at least you feel overwhelmed, you can't put "dead" or "ended" on it.

  • @milosCivejovidar
    @milosCivejovidar Před rokem +29

    I have around 20 years of career left. I would be happy to spend the rest of it as a software repair man with a decent living wage. I don't need yachts, trips to five star hotels, expensive cars - just a stable job with minimal stress and remote work.

  • @TomGDrAccessibility
    @TomGDrAccessibility Před 4 měsíci

    1. The premise that college is not valuable because more people have access to it is wrong. By your logic, “everyone” graduates elementary and high school, thus these are less valuable, so why bother going to school at all? 2. Not everyone’s goal is to become materially wealthy. Some of us are out here developing software to be of service to humanity, and that is more valuable and brings more happiness than money. 3. AI is still so bad at programming, it can’t even replace the most green developer out there. I am grateful to have a college degree, because I learned to see a large, long term, multi-year project through from start to finish. I am grateful to be a developer, because my skills are needed now more than ever, and I can actually build useful things for humanity, not just things that make a few people wealthy.

  • @ramielkady938
    @ramielkady938 Před rokem +3

    Great advice man, we will wait for you to start working as a waiter or truck driver. You walk your talk right ?

  • @theianmce
    @theianmce Před rokem +2

    The problem is you got into programming for the money, glory and ego, not for love of the craft. Anyone who does things for those reasons will be unhappy no matter what.

  • @cyberearthYT
    @cyberearthYT Před rokem +8

    I always had an issue with focussing. I started maybe 30 projects and completed non. I see it similar to you. I would not call myself a winner with all the rubbish in my head :-) It's hard to learn each year a new framework or whatever is just coming up. Anyway, with your level of knowhow, I would not quit coding. You came so far and now is the time to leverage this potential.

  • @JohnSmith-sj2dk
    @JohnSmith-sj2dk Před rokem

    I am an Elec. Engineer - great career (26 years so far...)

  • @bhutchin1996
    @bhutchin1996 Před rokem +4

    I think we may be entering an entrepreneurial epoch. Someone wanting to do ecommerce with Shopify, for example, isn't going to want to mess around with something like ChatGPT, but a human freelancer or entrepreneur who works with the Shopify store owner could use something like ChatGPT to streamline their processes. With that said, people wanting to get a traditional job working for a corporation is going to face a lot of competition to be part of that small group of developers who oversee what something like ChatGPT is doing, and even they are going to be just quality assurance employees.

  • @Gm_TT
    @Gm_TT Před rokem

    EVERYONE'S still fighting about what language to use? just use C++, kill bugs & take forever

  • @RayoBeatz
    @RayoBeatz Před rokem +13

    if I have learned anything... anything at all (sips water) its that all the books i've read on leadership, sales, marketing, phycology, etc.. it all points to one thing that will never die. PEOPLE. You have to be good with people and as long as there are introverts and shy, passive people then jobs like sales, marketing, and connecting with others will always be there. not everyone wants an AI in there face when trying to ask questions.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 Před rokem +1

      Rayo, look in the mirror. Are you attractive? All the sales people in pharma, for example, are intelligent, persuasive, articulate ... and drop dead gorgeous women. The clients are often dirty old men. Coincidence? And people people are often party animals, that WeWork guy Adam N* comes to mind. But you're right tho... sales is lucrative.

    • @compilererror
      @compilererror Před rokem +2

      "if" being the operative word here.

    • @unknowjlm
      @unknowjlm Před rokem

      People will never die ?...

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak Před rokem

      @@raylopez99 funny , when i see hot woman doing some stupid low paying job like shop assistant or smth i'm always thinking wtf is she doing here ? She could be making millions just by showing her face and selling smth stupid online. Your statement is so true, but i have to add i'm no simp would never buy anything from a woman just because she is hot just to make things clear.

  • @sewnsew6770
    @sewnsew6770 Před 2 měsíci

    For me programming is like going to school
    Never made big bucks like the FANG heads but enjoyed and now am old 65

  • @vzuzukin
    @vzuzukin Před rokem +4

    Podcasts are great! 🎙️

  • @davidfrankenfurter5800

    Next video: Big future as a photographer for Vogue magazine

  • @marusdod3685
    @marusdod3685 Před rokem +3

    chatgpt is just going to be something you plug into your platform/app. it's not that big of a deal

  • @bartwfielder
    @bartwfielder Před rokem

    I was a system administrator for 33 years....I'm now a farmer. I won't go back.

  • @rx5514
    @rx5514 Před rokem +9

    The part about math professor is so true. Math and physics people tend to think what they do is "cool", but in reality nobody cares about them.

  • @andrewelias9389
    @andrewelias9389 Před rokem

    There are still Architects…

  • @joshuamowdy9230
    @joshuamowdy9230 Před rokem +4

    Hello.
    The timing of the massive layoffs in tech industry. Coincides with the release of a.i.
    And these companies realize and know they won't be needing so many employees.
    Fax
    Good luck.

  • @Babaelow
    @Babaelow Před 7 měsíci

    your view might actually be valid, considering there are a LOT of bad programmers (and sadly MANY bloated frameworks) today.
    so, my calculation would roughly be:
    [number of coders in the near future] = [number of coders before all the "web stack" stuff] < [number of all the node developers today]
    i'd also kinda bet AI to massively rewrite bad code to optimize existing apps / frameworks / stacks / bloat.

  • @spudunit
    @spudunit Před rokem +4

    I'll tell you one thing: I expect AI generated art will boom and bust pretty quickly. I think there will be a new search for meaning and aithenticity, especially for young people. As you said, some have already toiled a lot for no payout. There was a time when we didn't have any of this stuff. And you know what? Life was better.

  • @abdelhassouneh7205
    @abdelhassouneh7205 Před rokem

    I love the video, but can you please disconnect your camera from your desk. The constant focusing because your bumping into the desk is highly distracting

  • @yunuscobanoglu6136
    @yunuscobanoglu6136 Před rokem +12

    Love the positive enegy 😂😂

    • @yalslaus
      @yalslaus Před rokem +3

      no sugarcoating here

    • @bukuism
      @bukuism Před rokem +1

      Sarcastic energy 🎉

  • @daveuk888
    @daveuk888 Před 6 měsíci

    @TechLead: Traditional telecoms is going the same way.

  • @PhoticsTV
    @PhoticsTV Před rokem +59

    You got it backwards. No one is a photographer these days because EVERYONE is a photographer.

    • @awabaca
      @awabaca Před rokem +1

      That’s the point!

    • @PhoticsTV
      @PhoticsTV Před rokem +1

      ​@@awabaca…but he didn't say it cool like Yogi Berra would. 😄
      Also, I think it is important to specifically mention that basically everyone is a photographer today, because not everyone is a coder / programmer today. The iPhone 4 to Photography is not the same as ChatGPT 4 to programming.
      Even if AI becomes so powerful that you could simply say, "Build me a new app store", how many people are going to want to do that? Most people enjoy taking pictures. It's almost instinctive to show off cool photos. It's not the same with programming. It takes a certain mindset to solve technical problems - even with advanced software tools.
      Perhaps society made a mistake to idolize coding, like it was a panacea profession, but that's not why I learned to code anyway. The Internet killed my chosen profession, so I started building websites… way before it was trendy.

    • @-eggsy
      @-eggsy Před rokem +6

      And when everyone is a photographer, no one will be.
      "Everyone can be super and when everyone is super, no one will be"(syndrome).

    • @PhoticsTV
      @PhoticsTV Před rokem

      @@-eggsy That's when it hit! I saw that movie and instantly knew that's exactly what happened to my career. I mentioned Syndrome / The Incredibles at the start of my Photography playlist. 😄

  • @htetaung04
    @htetaung04 Před rokem

    If you are a regular developer with mild ambition (me), this video isn't for you. His hidden premise is that everybody wants to become millionaires at all cost. That's simply wrong.

  • @user-id8ng9eq9h
    @user-id8ng9eq9h Před rokem +10

    If you want to earn an exceptional income, for whatever reason motivates you - there are really only two paths. Sales or entrepreneurship....

    • @compilererror
      @compilererror Před rokem +2

      and ransomware -- you forgot ransomware

    • @luxraider5384
      @luxraider5384 Před rokem +1

      @@compilererror you better live in russia then

    • @compilererror
      @compilererror Před rokem

      @@luxraider5384 well it's common is Russia to insult you three times -- being in Russia is in fact an insult -- let me demonstrate: Твоя мать живет в России с тремя дохлыми рыбами, пахнущими тухлыми дохлыми морскими существами.

    • @compilererror
      @compilererror Před rokem

      @@luxraider5384 it's a silly joke from a book I read on Russian insults -- please don't take it personal

    • @luxraider5384
      @luxraider5384 Před rokem +1

      @@compilererror i was just joking over the fact that in russia you can freely randomware the west without going to jail

  • @DrKnowsMore
    @DrKnowsMore Před rokem

    Remind me a little bit of everybody saying personal computers were just a fad and wouldn't go anywhere. Be careful making predictions about what Will and will not succeed.

  • @kyokushinfighter78
    @kyokushinfighter78 Před rokem +5

    He's correct, but I'd like to understand the reason. We are currently entering a new era of technological advancements, transitioning from manual to digital methods. This is similar to the impact of the typewriter, which led to the creation of professional typist jobs. However, when word processors emerged, everyone could type for themselves, and the typist profession disappeared.
    The same applies to app developers today. With the rise of no-code platforms and artificial intelligence, anyone can create an app, making the coding profession less significant. Moreover, the technology boom has come to an end. Tech startups are going bankrupt, and non-tech corporations never required a large number of developers to begin with.

  • @Randomthoughts.-fl8go

    Web is not the only space where programmers are needed. There many other fields, like industrial automation, aerospace, bio medical equipment, defense, space satellite, automotive, agriculture, government and so many other, in fact there might be handful fields where software does not exists in any form. Software development didn't start with internet, and social media. For all other industries programmers will still be needed to maintain or enhancing the functionality.

  • @npquanh30402
    @npquanh30402 Před rokem +6

    It won't save us, true, but it will definitely help us.

  • @blakejames9743
    @blakejames9743 Před rokem

    "No one wants to be a photographer" Ya sure about that?!

  • @vanillaglue
    @vanillaglue Před rokem +26

    I don't know if you read these comments, but you hit some serial nails on the head, and I think this is what distinguishes your channel. You're honest, brutally honest, in a way a good friend or parent would be. In this case, you seem to understand young adults are struggling and you're candid about top earners, something everyone wishes to be.
    Can you make a video on how to position yourself best for the future, on how to orient yourself towards making an enterpreneur? How do you recognize trends, how do you jump on them? How do you become independent?
    Thanks for your content!
    🙏

    • @fkxfkx
      @fkxfkx Před rokem

      Don’t drink the kook aid, bro.

    • @vanillaglue
      @vanillaglue Před rokem +1

      @@fkxfkx you're gonna have to respond with something more substantial than an ad hominem

    • @fkxfkx
      @fkxfkx Před rokem

      @@vanillaglue no, I don’t think i do.

    • @vanillaglue
      @vanillaglue Před rokem +4

      @@fkxfkx gay

  • @Adrien_Ht
    @Adrien_Ht Před rokem

    Why are you always chassing fame and money ? A life driven by interests, by curiosity, is better than a one driven by fame, glory, money and ego. Popularity do not make people happier.

  • @inyenyenzi
    @inyenyenzi Před rokem +3

    There's a big difference between a Computer Scientist and a Programmer. AI can replace programmers but AI can only be created by good Computer Scientists. This is something most people even tech companies have failed to appreciate and understand. Android SDK I am looking at you.

  • @cosmicray007
    @cosmicray007 Před rokem

    Just wait until the model has a turning nervous system and memory. This is coming.

  • @CB-sf9mx
    @CB-sf9mx Před rokem +7

    The vast majority of office work is going to be done by AI. Society has to change to support the swathes of underskilled, unemployable people. The safest industries are technicians imo. Electricians, plumbers, builders, these jobs cant be done by AI until they have cheap enough robotics, which is still far enough away. The irony that the blue collar worker will be safe and sound whilst the white collar workers suffers in poverty is too much.

    • @searchindex3438
      @searchindex3438 Před rokem +1

      The only problem is that technicians tend to get pigeon-holed into 5 year limited jobs with no career path …ergo they are streamlined for ‘easy hiring and firing’ because most people won’t be expected to stay at them more than 5 years …and the ones that do will get muscles out
      ergo companies try to underman by hiring at the lowest pay, lowest rank, then either keeping them at the lowest pay as long as possible, creating high turnover, or giving regular raises until they max out then find reasons to let them go or force them to quit

    • @searchindex3438
      @searchindex3438 Před rokem +1

      It’s interesting that you noted the swaths of unskilled unemployables …no one else seems to ‘get that’ reality
      They assume that PhDs will take care of everything but the reality is our PhD students have been dumbed down and spoiled and they don’t want to work and they don’t know how to work
      The big topic is climate industry but it’s embarrassing how many numb nuts masters and PhDs we have that can’t and won’t use a measuring cup or take a proper sample or adhere to lab rules

    • @CB-sf9mx
      @CB-sf9mx Před rokem +1

      @@searchindex3438 You could be a local self-employed technician and earn a decent wage, be part of the local community and all that. I see it as quite a tempting career.

    • @siemniak
      @siemniak Před rokem

      @@CB-sf9mx if you wanna be work as technician actually being self-employed is the only way worth persuing. Still... it's not even middle class type of life.