"The next day..." love it. Always, 3 hour job turns into a week-long project. Thanks for sharing, watched for an alternative to screwing off the old tie rod end, so heat it is I guess.
You are the MAN, man. I was about to throw the towel in, hang my head in shame and take it to a shop to get my outer tie rods done. Bought a torch, hammered on that thing for 12 minutes and it popped over as soon as I put a wrench on it.
Exact same scenario here. Gonna buy some decent torch tomorrow first time and give it a try. I've already spent about three hours on this stupid bolt and was close to just forfeit.
Yoo years later thanks for the tip to heat up the jam nut area! Thought i just wasn't strong enough to get em loose but fire helped get it like butter 👌👌👌
Those outer tie rods have been replaced at least once. You can tell by the S04 stamped on it. If they were original it would be SR3. Here's how it works: SH3 - EF Civic,SR3 - EG Civic and S04 - EK Civic. Ball joints and inner and outer tie rods for 88-00 Civics are interchangeable. They just have different part numbers.
great video for us home gamers, I was trying to remove the tie rod on a 1 ton E350 van, it was futile. Neighbor is a mechanic, he rolled his O/A torch set out and got it cherry red, literally, and it came off like it was buttered. Thats what the pro's do, they don't mess about trying brute force. He said it can't seize if its liquid.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I couldn’t remove my outer tie rod and was ready to go get “ shafted” at my local shop. However, you mad me realize I wasn’t heating it up long enough
Great video. Just pointing out that the size of the inner tie rod tool's socket you chose is 1 15/16 (one and fifteen sixteenths inches) so people know what size to get. It's not a 1/5 or 16mm
I only wanted to adjust my tie rods and came across this problem. That’s how I ended up watching this video. I was thinking about a torch and this video confirms it for me. I may wrap wet rags on both sides to protect the boots and tie rods from overheating or damage.
Dude that sounds awesome! So you just have better feel of the car then? I'm really looking forward to getting to that point. Having a car that reacts when I turn the steering wheel lol
Refine Movement I feel really safe and I feel everything on the road. No body sway no more jerking it's like a brand new car, reaction time for me to swerve away from a pothole is much more reactive (sorry for my grammar)
I understand you perfectly man, no need to apologize! I'm really happy to hear you improved your car in a positive way. Showing those potholes who's boss lol
Okay I have a problem & I hope someone can help me but I can’t get my inner tie rod out of the steering racket, it’s super stuck even with the tie rod removal tool, do I need to torch the inner tie side where it’s attached to the steering racket??
@@RefineMovement okay so I can use a fire torch on the inner tie rod that’s connected to the steering racket?? Where in the inner tie rod should I put fire torch on ?? On the head of the inner tie rod ?
Bro, thank you so much for putting on this video. I tried to remove my outer tie rod today and it would not budge. I went to HD to get some better wrenches to remove that sucker but now that I'm watching your video I think I'm just going to wait and do both the inner and outer tie rod as I noticed my inner tie rod has no resistance whatsoever and probably needs to be replaced as well. I'm going to get one of those torches as well in case my new wrenches don't work. My car is only ten years old so we'll see. BTW, your car's suspension was in really rough shape. Wow!! Haha
Glad you got some use out of the video man! Yeah, if you’re there replacing the outer, might as well replace the inner and get it all done. The torch really came in handy lol. I hope you don’t need to go that far with yours
Awesome tips and how-to's for teaching those stubborn Tie Rod ends some; R-E-S-P-E-C-T....well thanks to this vid mine "found out what it meant to me"....after the torch trick 🔥😎
It makes me mad when guys go to the torch right away when loosening a seized nut on the tie rods. They have specialty wrenches with more leverage you can use. You just need to use something better than a short handled adjustable wrench.
I found the new boot doesn't go on as easily as it apparently was for you. My new boot actually fits inside my old one. Currently having issues stretching it out enough to fit the large end onto the truck.
I have the same problem on my car. I was going to do the same thing but I'm worried about any hardening (heat treatment) that may occur. I assume that heat is harmless on this component - am I right?
Comment #2!!!! For real though good episode. I learned how to work on my inner/outer tie rods when my lower ball joint broke on my accord while I was driving. Ripped out the driver cv axle and tie rods
Oh wow, havent heard of a lower ball joint breaking before. But good job man, you learned how to take care of it and that's always confidence inspiring if you ever need to work on them again.
Great stuff man! Quick question, for the Boot did you use an OEM or after market part? If so can you share the brand and part number please. Thanks! Great video as always!
My situation is the opposite I got the nut backed out but the tie rod itself won’t unscrew, can I concentrate the heat on the tie rod and expect it to loosen up?
looking for some help guys got a 95 civic hatch both my front wheels i can shake a little and my driver wheel leans in a little to the inside and my passenger wheel leans out a hair past my fender whats up here just looking for help and thank you.
Thanks man. I’m pretty sure you are asking me how much power my impact gun has. If so i don’t remember to be honest. The brand is Chicago Electric if you want to look it up. It’s not the most powerful impact gun out there but it’s done every job on the car that I’ve asked it to do so far. I like it
Hey man im looking into doing this to my EM1, quick question the hardware for the inner tie rod.. did that stuff come inside the hardrace box or did buy the hardware separately??
It's a worthwhile job Brendan! Relatively easy to do with the right tools as well. Yes, the hardware is included. Inner tie rods box had the locking caps in it as well I believe. Outer tie rods came with the castle nuts, cotter pins, and zip ties. I'd recommend doing your outer tie rods at the same time cause you are there anyway. Just my opinion though! Good luck man
Thanks for the fast response man I really appreciate it and great video by the way!!! I got ya though I am doing it all at once, I am replacing practically everything suspension wise on my civic so I'm just gathering parts right now. Btw what dust boots did you use OEM or a different brand?
Why not just cut the outer tie rod off the inner instead of heating and taking it apart? Takes way less time and effort. Good metal blade on a sawza and ya done.
Maybe to reuse, more professional, cutting tools can be avoided, maybe if you only need to replace outer tie rod and not inner - Variety of reasons. My situation was the outer tie rod joint was very loose and wheel was jiggling meaning alignment was never staying - Instead of having to spend another $100 on two inner tie rods and parts tools to remove that, just heat the nut, loosen, and remove outer putting a new one on and presto, cheapest fix with most effective time over dollar ratio.
Don’t do this please…. If you overheat that metal it could fail and sent you head on into oncoming traffic without notice… just take it to a shop, it’s not an expensive repair… Your life or someone else’s isn’t worth a hundred bucks, think about it….
"The next day..." love it. Always, 3 hour job turns into a week-long project. Thanks for sharing, watched for an alternative to screwing off the old tie rod end, so heat it is I guess.
yeah fr i just spent like 9 hours getting the outer rod off the nuckle 😂 all saturday and i didnt even get the old rod off
You are the MAN, man. I was about to throw the towel in, hang my head in shame and take it to a shop to get my outer tie rods done. Bought a torch, hammered on that thing for 12 minutes and it popped over as soon as I put a wrench on it.
Exact same scenario here. Gonna buy some decent torch tomorrow first time and give it a try.
I've already spent about three hours on this stupid bolt and was close to just forfeit.
Yoo years later thanks for the tip to heat up the jam nut area! Thought i just wasn't strong enough to get em loose but fire helped get it like butter 👌👌👌
Those outer tie rods have been replaced at least once. You can tell by the S04 stamped on it. If they were original it would be SR3. Here's how it works: SH3 - EF Civic,SR3 - EG Civic and S04 - EK Civic. Ball joints and inner and outer tie rods for 88-00 Civics are interchangeable. They just have different part numbers.
Those also have grease fittings, pretty sure Honda uses a sealed design.
great video for us home gamers, I was trying to remove the tie rod on a 1 ton E350 van, it was futile.
Neighbor is a mechanic, he rolled his O/A torch set out and got it cherry red, literally, and it came off like it was buttered.
Thats what the pro's do, they don't mess about trying brute force.
He said it can't seize if its liquid.
I had trouble with that but too, I just took a long wrench and put my floor jack under it and started jacking it up, loosened right up.
Smart! I should try this!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I couldn’t remove my outer tie rod and was ready to go get “ shafted” at my local shop. However, you mad me realize I wasn’t heating it up long enough
Multiply the time and pain by 5 if you're in the Midwest; primarily Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan
Great video. Just pointing out that the size of the inner tie rod tool's socket you chose is 1 15/16 (one and fifteen sixteenths inches) so people know what size to get. It's not a 1/5 or 16mm
Thanks a lot man. I appreciate you correcting what I said in a positive way as well. Clearly I didn't read that right lol so thank you!
Refine Movement no reason to disrespect somebody making videos I always watch Lol
Omg he has no idea how to read fractions
Good stuff man. I recommend you get the yellow torch next time. It gets hotter quicker than the blue one. Keep it up!
you should clean and grease your spindles where it contacts the tie-rod boot, otherwise it will bind and tear over time when turning.
Thank you so much for the torch info. I just spent 4 hours wrenching and pulling way too much. Had 5 minutes and it flew off like butter
I only wanted to adjust my tie rods and came across this problem. That’s how I ended up watching this video. I was thinking about a torch and this video confirms it for me. I may wrap wet rags on both sides to protect the boots and tie rods from overheating or damage.
Yeah man, torch is the way. It heat it up nicely and broke free. I for sure recommend it
Great job being slow and explaining things properly! Keep doing these videos. They help out a lot.
I recently upgraded every single suspension part in my EK with ktuned and it's the best money spent!!
Dude that sounds awesome! So you just have better feel of the car then? I'm really looking forward to getting to that point. Having a car that reacts when I turn the steering wheel lol
Refine Movement I feel really safe and I feel everything on the road. No body sway no more jerking it's like a brand new car, reaction time for me to swerve away from a pothole is much more reactive (sorry for my grammar)
I understand you perfectly man, no need to apologize! I'm really happy to hear you improved your car in a positive way. Showing those potholes who's boss lol
Yo bro, that sounds awesome. I got similar plans with my EK3, it's really been getting quite sloppy. What parts did you specifically replace NIX?
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Dude the torching didnt work for me.. I made it so damn hot and still I cant get the stupid thing off. What do I do???
Okay I have a problem & I hope someone can help me but I can’t get my inner tie rod out of the steering racket, it’s super stuck even with the tie rod removal tool, do I need to torch the inner tie side where it’s attached to the steering racket??
That torch helps a lot and it may help you in your spot too. Heat up close to the area you want to move and then try the tie rod removal tool
@@RefineMovement okay so I can use a fire torch on the inner tie rod that’s connected to the steering racket?? Where in the inner tie rod should I put fire torch on ?? On the head of the inner tie rod ?
Dude! This really works. It took me 12 minutes without frustration.
The torch?
Thanks for the torch trick was sitting now 2days on my car trying to get of that bolt. Can't wait to finally replace my tie rods
Thankyou so much. I was using a torch but for not long enough. I heated it for longer and it came loose real easy. I almost gave up.
Bro, thank you so much for putting on this video. I tried to remove my outer tie rod today and it would not budge. I went to HD to get some better wrenches to remove that sucker but now that I'm watching your video I think I'm just going to wait and do both the inner and outer tie rod as I noticed my inner tie rod has no resistance whatsoever and probably needs to be replaced as well. I'm going to get one of those torches as well in case my new wrenches don't work. My car is only ten years old so we'll see. BTW, your car's suspension was in really rough shape. Wow!! Haha
Glad you got some use out of the video man! Yeah, if you’re there replacing the outer, might as well replace the inner and get it all done. The torch really came in handy lol. I hope you don’t need to go that far with yours
Can you use heat on the inner tie rod close to the rack and pinnion without hurting anything. I cant get my inner to spin off.
Worked for me Glad I saw this video, I wedged a pipe Wench and heated for 6-7 mins and it came loose
i had the same experience as you...they wont move .. i just shoot some wd40 and leave it until the next day
Don't apply antiseize until the last step. That stuff gets everywhere and doesn't come off easily.
Ask me how I know lol
haha nice. I did end up reapplying some after I put the inner bellows back on. Worked out!
Awesome tips and how-to's for teaching those stubborn Tie Rod ends some;
R-E-S-P-E-C-T....well thanks to this vid mine "found out what it meant to me"....after the torch trick
🔥😎
just got my 84 MK2 Supra done using torch
Ty I'm on day 3 trying to get mine loose thanks for the vid I was searching to see if I was turning the wrong way and found your video thanks again
I had a stuck inner/outer tie rod and i just cut the outer tie rod off and put new ones in haha!
Damn, that's one way to do it! haha
I admire your work ....Thank you for sharing this with us
Yellow bottle is better called MAP GAS
If you counted the Treads on Tie Rod Shaft, the Alignment should be the same as before...
He did and wrote it on the box. 13 turns
It makes me mad when guys go to the torch right away when loosening a seized nut on the tie rods. They have specialty wrenches with more leverage you can use. You just need to use something better than a short handled adjustable wrench.
I found the new boot doesn't go on as easily as it apparently was for you. My new boot actually fits inside my old one. Currently having issues stretching it out enough to fit the large end onto the truck.
Thank you. I heat the nut and outer rod. Just like you said, it came off easy. 👍👍👍
My dude, all this stuff is going to make that eg drive like a new car, I'm telling you👍🏻👍🏻
Use MAPP gas if you need to heat a bolt next time FYI. Heats way faster
Great video man. I was struggling with that bolt connected to the inner tie rod today & this video definitely helped out. Thanks man. Happy holidays
Should've just counted how many twists to take it off lol
Awesome thanks man, gotta torch this darn thing I guess.
Did you punch the four section of the lock washer? How did you do that?
Nice video great job , interesting way to count the threads , instead of counting how many turns on tie rod 👍 Gold Coast Australia
Did it with my dab torch
I would install new outer Tie-rod with ANTI-SEIZE
I just used a jack to pop out the joint
Thanks for upload, need do mine soon and also need change shocks and springs for lowewred, waiting for another video
I have the same problem on my car. I was going to do the same thing but I'm worried about any hardening (heat treatment) that may occur. I assume that heat is harmless on this component - am I right?
Comment #2!!!! For real though good episode. I learned how to work on my inner/outer tie rods when my lower ball joint broke on my accord while I was driving. Ripped out the driver cv axle and tie rods
Oh wow, havent heard of a lower ball joint breaking before. But good job man, you learned how to take care of it and that's always confidence inspiring if you ever need to work on them again.
8:50 not 1/5th and 16 lol its 1 and 5/16th
Great video so glad to see work getting done on the eg. Glad you are back. Keep up the great work.😆
Thanks a lot man! Nice to have new parts fitted to the car. Really looking forward to all the suspension coming together.
That tire rod hasn’t been changed for 26 years ????
Great stuff man! Quick question, for the Boot did you use an OEM or after market part? If so can you share the brand and part number please. Thanks! Great video as always!
It's gotta be at least 8.29 HP each! 😜
I checked their website and they don't have these tie rods,, I need the exact same ones
Have that same issue right now. Gonna buy a torch and do what you recommend 😅
Its scary I know! lol but it works man, just be careful with it
Refine Movement It worked thank you once again !
@@jimmysuos1526 how long did you have the flame from the torch on the tie rod for ?
You should shoot some grease in there from the zerk fitting on the tie rod boot! Cheap insurance right there.
My situation is the opposite I got the nut backed out but the tie rod itself won’t unscrew, can I concentrate the heat on the tie rod and expect it to loosen up?
What did you do? Same issue here. The tool won't budge and slips too
Apple cider vinegar in a spray bottle m8 loosens even exhaust flange nuts, great for soaking rusty nuts n bolts in too.
You are spot on. I guess I will be doing the same thing.
Gonna feel great on the track. Should be very responsive!
I tried propane at first to try and get my rusted nuts off. I ended up switching to map gas because it just wasnt working.
Great Video to watch and learnabout Tie rod .
Ey whats the blue thing that u out to the inner tie rod?
Pipe on the end of an wrench.
looking for some help guys got a 95 civic hatch both my front wheels i can shake a little and my driver wheel leans in a little to the inside and my passenger wheel leans out a hair past my fender whats up here just looking for help and thank you.
Sounds like you need an alignment. There may be parts that are worn out with your suspension but it’s hard to say with out seeing it.
What’s the name of the fork tool you used to hammer the end of tie rod off ??
Never mind pickle fork got it lol thanks
Nice video dude. A little question, how many kw has your driller? cuz i want to buy one like that. thks.
Thanks man. I’m pretty sure you are asking me how much power my impact gun has. If so i don’t remember to be honest. The brand is Chicago Electric if you want to look it up. It’s not the most powerful impact gun out there but it’s done every job on the car that I’ve asked it to do so far. I like it
I have a dumb question how far are the fuel lines from where you're heating the tie rodz
Nowhere near. Besides, there is a wall between the engine parts and the outer suspension. Yes, its a dumb question.
Hey man im looking into doing this to my EM1, quick question the hardware for the inner tie rod.. did that stuff come inside the hardrace box or did buy the hardware separately??
It's a worthwhile job Brendan! Relatively easy to do with the right tools as well. Yes, the hardware is included. Inner tie rods box had the locking caps in it as well I believe. Outer tie rods came with the castle nuts, cotter pins, and zip ties. I'd recommend doing your outer tie rods at the same time cause you are there anyway. Just my opinion though! Good luck man
Thanks for the fast response man I really appreciate it and great video by the way!!! I got ya though I am doing it all at once, I am replacing practically everything suspension wise on my civic so I'm just gathering parts right now. Btw what dust boots did you use OEM or a different brand?
To everyone everywhere, whenever you swap out track rod ends PLEASE REASSEMBLE WITH COPPA SLIP it prevents all the seizures in the future
Are the inner rods from hardrace as well?
One fifth or a sixteen.
lol
Never use adjustable wrenches, they will strip your shit real quick :D
I can see how it could but they worked fine for me
Ugh so 3/4 is 19mm not 7/8. Also those arent ball joints.
i was like " whos this guy " or has Travis become lean suddenly with hair..
Then i realised its Robbie :D # Long Absence :P
Good stuff man keep it up!!!!!
good job
Where did you get your boots? Awesome video btw man!
What if I dont have a torque wrench?
Get one
Why not just cut the outer tie rod off the inner instead of heating and taking it apart? Takes way less time and effort. Good metal blade on a sawza and ya done.
Maybe to reuse, more professional, cutting tools can be avoided, maybe if you only need to replace outer tie rod and not inner - Variety of reasons. My situation was the outer tie rod joint was very loose and wheel was jiggling meaning alignment was never staying - Instead of having to spend another $100 on two inner tie rods and parts tools to remove that, just heat the nut, loosen, and remove outer putting a new one on and presto, cheapest fix with most effective time over dollar ratio.
Why don't any of these mother fucking vids show which way to turn
Real mechanics don't use adjustable wrenches.
1 and 5/16 lol sorry
How in the hell would a boot boost hp....🤔 doesn't add up. Hopefully you were being sarcastic
Don’t do this please…. If you overheat that metal it could fail and sent you head on into oncoming traffic without notice… just take it to a shop, it’s not an expensive repair… Your life or someone else’s isn’t worth a hundred bucks, think about it….
Until you realize the shop also uses heat 😂