Fred Mastro | Mastro Defence System | Funker Tactical Throat Cut Challenge!
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- Demonstration of the reactionary gap...nothing more. No magic here.
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This guy is not only a Charleton he's also a sadist.
I was there when this was recorded. The exercise is designed to prove a point and it does a good job of it. There's also a fair bit of instruction surrounding it that focuses on timing, distance and more importantly, situational awareness. The biggest take away of this is that if you are in close with your guard down, you can't stop the attack. It's neuroscience. There simply isn't enough time. Plan for that.
Part of what isn't in this clip is an explanation of how an attack like this can come as a surprise. The training knife is visible but a small knife, razor blade between the fingers or some other subtle weapon you don't notice, can come out of nowhere with little or no warning. Fred initiates his strike the way a boxer does, highly practiced to avoid telegraphing. It's the knife equivalent of a sucker punch, fast and fully committed with almost no warning.
The best physical defense is keeping your distance and not letting someone get that close without at least putting yourself in a more guarded position while understanding that even if you do guard, you're going to get cut somewhere.
You can take these comments or leave them but I've seen him do this demo more than once, and again, I was actually there for this one. I'm not guessing based on watching a CZcams video. Fred is legit. He's got wisdom worth sharing.
Did you guys have to keep your hands down when he slashed? Theres no way anyone can stop that. Hes calm, not telegraphing, he starts the movement, you have to react, make a decision, you initiate muscles and most importantly, distance from arms down to neck looks further than when he initiates the slash to the volunteers neck. Theres no way you can block that.
@@apablo09 no one assumed a guard position. Everyone basically started arms down, including Fred. He keeps his shoulder down. Doesn’t raise it or cock his arm for the attack. It’s subtle. He did it over and over with experienced people. No one stopped it.
There aren’t a lot of people who can pull off an attack like that. It’s a skill he’s developed. The bigger lesson is about awareness, keeping safe distance, paying attention to peoples hands, etc. As a former security professional and first responder it was a good it was a hood exercise.
Anyone could learn that attack if they were motivated to do it. Fred is tall but not unnaturally so. It would be a difficult wound and probably enough to open you up to more of them.
Thankfully most get loud, act suspicious or outright threaten before they attempt something.
This was a singular experience. A valuable one for anyone but especially for people engaged in keeping other people safe.
When testing action vs reaction, action will always win. Always.
As someone who does historical sword fencing I can absolutely confirm that with an experienced fencer you have no chance of blocking a cut. That's why you NEVER allow anyone to get in a distance that is so close that he can hit you without having to make an additional step.
No wasted movement that I can see, the average person has no idea how deadly a knife can be in a criminal or in this case a well trained individual, much respect and thank you for being one of the legit practitioners on youtube.
great instruction piece on being aware - if someone has a knife, unless you are a highly trained fighter with experience outside of the classroom you have very few choices... your best one is to run and if they don't follow keep running. If you are forced to fight you need a weapon to open and keep distance between you and your attacker. Chairs are excellent weapons and defensive shields, sticks, metal bar, anything that will be painful for them and not let them get inside where they can slice you to pieces. Knives are very lethal, very painful to heal from and the smallest blade can puncture a lung, kidney or spleen... again this is just for those that don't already have training - if you have fought twice in your life and you are facing a knife - run.
speaking as a lifelong martial artist...... 1. he is very fast 2. BUT no self respecting martial artist stands with his hands at his sides and challenges reaction time, speed and power with another high level martial artist.
Nobody can block this, hands in a ready position (even a relaxed defensive position) I could stop this BOTH at his arm/wrist AND his shoulder. but from a hands down position its absurd to think anyone could do it
KevinWood44 exactly
KevinWood44 this is about the unsuspecting. its learning how to defend yourself in an everyday real life situation. tuck your head and tske the face shot
Kethevor Def not, thats why this isnt AS jmpressive as it seems. No human being can stop speed and power whem caught off guard esp against as experienced martial artist.
Lifelong martial artist? What type of martial artist? Kung fu, karate and everything apart from what is used in MMA and military combat is a waste of time, so you might as well be saying that you wasted your life on some weird yoga like tai chi shit.
xomiakas Ummm....MMA black belt (the school I trained at taught MMA, same school that Uriah Hall, Jimmy Rivera about 5 others who fight or have fought in the UFC come from) BJJ purple belt (w the gi, more experience without the gi, stopped training w the gi when I got my purple belt, no gi doesnt have a belt system, except 10 planet BJJ) and Kung Fu.....about 16yrs in total, does that meet with u approval??
totally awesome something that I need to work on thanks for the video
i appreciate how well he is able to act "Off beat" this is what takes hie opponents by surprise. great awareness!
Very simplistic. Much more complicated in real life. True, action faster than reaction in perfect circumstances.
Saw a similar demonstration given by a stand-up fighter regarding telegraphing punches. Neat stuff.
Like the police shooting test proving action "distancing" beats reaction . The instructor stands behind you with one hand on your shoulder. His other hand throws/drops a rag infront of you. You shoot the target infront when the rag drops. He runs when the rag drops to test distance before the shot. He usually gets 10-20 feet away before reaction. Love it!
How utterly inspiring is it to see a guy in a wheelchair learning self defense. That is awesome!! What a guy 😊
VERY NICE WORK
That excercise is exactly the same as a surprise king hit.As distance timing plays a huge part during an attack.A great learning excercise based on reality
I just love MDS videos...
its really a great video to showcase how slow reaction times are. everyone who tried is probably fairly decent in self defence and you could see many tecniques tried. it shows how important situational awarness and going proactive if you believe there is a threat are. the reality is if someone goes full speed on you it is very hard for anyone to stop by reacting. i think that the right person may be able to block it. a combination of things mentioned in the comments would be helpfull. first keeping an eye on hands not there eyes. i also read raise your shoulder and duck your chin. that would help to shield a bit. the close hand would have to be blocking in the timeframe and you i think the ikmf krav tecnique of thowing your hips back and counterattacking at the same time with the other hand would help. all of this done by an incredible practitioner might be able to do it
That guy in the wheelchair
Much respect for you Champ..!!
love the love in the room there!!
On one of your videos, you showed several and very effective block to that challenge. Hope one day to be able to accept one when ever i am in town.
um grande mestre está no respeito de seus alunos. parabéns
SPEED.Wins every time. Speed generates power & "most" people forget this. Everyone I train wants power first & they learn fast, speed generates power. very nice video.
Buen trabajo, practico todos los dias, muy buen aporte
I'm that fast when I cut my lawn too - no one can stop me.
I like these videos.aikido is what I have studied. whom ever moves first usually wins. surprisingly no one stepped forward or back
at 1:15 you can se he is making the measurement , you can cleary see he is standing close to the MDS letters but once they start 1:40, he already has closed the distance by a whole foot while the other guy hasnt moved an inch ,wich is why his arm is bent while cutting ,sneaky tricks used to appear fair while making sure to lower the chances of the other guys reaction.
didn't realize my opponent would fight with his hands to the side. Awesome thank you!
wonderfull teacher...👍
damn, he' s fast. Super Prof.
soy seguidor y aprendí mucho las tácticas muchas gracias
action is faster then reaction
Carlos Alfonso not the point
Showmae ok but the way the passive students are approaching the situation don't give them that much chance. 1st always keep your arms up 2nd don't just let any stranger get closer then your arms lenght. I mean really, hands to your side that's how you would approach a real life situation.
Carlos Alfonso The fact is that while you are seing someone using that technique the effort of leaving up your arms would simply take too much time
Showmae I think that you have a better chance if you don't let anybody get on your space with your hands up than with your hands on the side though.
Carlos Alfonso My thoughts exactly
Action will always beat reaction if he is in measure you are going to get cut. There is not enough time for your brain to process the movement and react
James Adamo exactly! Maybe from a defensive position with hands up but not from a neutral stance as in the drill.
Need to create distance.
mryupjup while it is possible to beat someone on a draw in reaction it would require the person reacting to be faster at drawing their firearm or for the first person to fumble or otherwise loose the initiative
Pre-cue already had a lot of studies in Sport skills.
One Key clue, the cutter always look down first then attack.
So his eyes wont leak the sign of attack.
youre talking about 'reflex' reflex can be/is faster than reaction ..in the sense youre talking about. being able to fine tune youre reflex to shoot a gun accurately..not sure if thats possible/beyond my understanding.
That move is very similar to Systema. The trick is to move from your hips if you want to match his speed and power. All of the participants were relying on a single arm's speed and power which is no match for an attack that uses the whole body.
I've tried boxing once, and the instructor didn't want me in the class because he thought I was too weak for boxing. I proved him wrong by adjusting my posture and delivering blows after blows by focusing on my hip movement. Later on I found out that there is already a few martial arts that have been emphasizing hip movement.
Good to see an extraordinary performance of speed attacking. Also you will need a calm, alpha brainwave state of mind to catch the speed of his movement and react accordingly. It will probably take years of training to block that attack as it is fair to assume that he took many years of training to move that fast and add great power on top of it.
This man is totally amazing !!
I like him tho !! :D
Self protection isn't a tickling competition I like the look of his work
Fantastic
He did that last guy dirty because he blocked it.
Jstn 8156 That was me lol
I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps and anytime u volunteer you are bound to get fucked up. you did great, he got defensive.
Did anyone tried moving back or charging forward? I mean charging without waiting for him to attack. That is essentially what he is doing.
@@edwhlam no from my memory most of the guys who stepped up were kind of newbies(not saying I'm an "expert").
Put your hands up. ✋
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I'm perfect in technical fight n I done all this because of ur videos thnx.sir I'm bigist fan of u
Crazy!!
Amazing parlor trick
damn, that boy's fast!!
I would really like to try this.
Awesome idea there at the beginning. An idea is to have a face shield present. I think more might be willing to participate in that.
or, rubber knife, or "very plastic", that is better idea.
first change distance, second read shoulder. if you try to actually block you have to go above the elbow not for forearm. bicep moves at half the speed. but the key is to be there already.. of course IRL no one waits for you to say OK.
I like this challenge we're going to replicate it at my school next quarter.
what a fast hand over here xD
El maestro sifu your students can also wear a neck guard because they always hit an area of danger that could lead to sizzle complaints
Master maestro the problem is there trying to block the knife versus the forearm or even jamming the shoulders the best thing to do is minimize the attack or negate it and since you cannot negate steel get out of the way the guy blocking with his forearm was excellent he just used the wrong arm.
It can't be blocked due to reaction time. Once he strikes, by the time you realize he is coming at you, you can't beat him or back up. This happens in a split second. Kind of like dropping a dollar bill between someone's fingers, it passes thru before they can clamp their fingers.
The fastest way to block this attack is to swiftly lift your upper arm, allowing to to cover your entire neck. You can also swiftly move your fore arm up against your neck and use an extended hand so you have less wind resistance, using a clenched fist will make your arm slower.
don't think, feel. that is the answer. Tim tacket talks about responding to inclinations of attack. before the attack is initiated you respond.
DANG! That was amazing (no condoning violence) I think any good butcher could do this though... I've seen them cut and debone in seconds flat
at that range one should be thinking about attacking not defending. elbow, headbutt or knee would be good choices likely to save your neck and do the most damage
That folks is why knives are so dangerous.
Geoff Thompson named it the fence more than 20 years ago!!
move forward and left arm up on the inside, also makes for a good counter. wrap your arm around his elbow and then you can break his arm or face plant him to the ground. don't move back because they can easily lean in and close that distance you just made.
Show muito eficaz 👍👍👍👍
I would like to see Sifu Sergio Iadarola doing this challenge! That would be interesting!
Excelente vídeo saludos me suscribo LIke
The reasoning behind when he creates the distance and have you put your hands at your sides is because no one walks around on guard 100% of the time. So if by meaning of true malicious intent a trained professional can kill you or commit permanent arterial damage and walk away as is if nothing happened. The eye can only identify that there is movement not the complex trajectory of that movement. Which makes blocking the the attacker virtually impossible. The biggest mistake for the opponent is to focus on the eyes of the attacker and would be better off looking at tip of the blade or the waistline of the attacker. So, if you already know where the attacker (in this situation) is going to attack, one option is to conceal the point of contact which you already know is the left side of your neck. The moment you say ok you then prepare to reach up , keeping you arm (opposite the area of attack) close to your body immediately covering the strike point and retaliating with a back fist to the attackers face. Yes you will have your hand sliced however, better your hand than the big arteries in your neck. So protect the neck with the hand and instantly attack, then create distance. In a knife fight you will always get cut so you must manage what you are willing to take and in order to survive it.
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magnifico,, sansasyonellll
It's not Mastro's ability or technique that ensures he's getting the cut here. It's that they are within the Reactionary Gap, touching range without having to step forward. First man to move / act will land his attack almost without fail. This is why sucker punches are so dangerous, etc. If you flipped the script and let the attendees stand in the same range and try to cut him under the same rules, most of them would likely succeed.
a simple shoulder lift will defeat that attack. instead of trying to block or move your hands or body all one has to do is lift the shoulder up while tilting neck down and sideways essentially closing the opening leaving only the side of the face or shoulder exposed.
A (real) encounter is about distance. In the "challenge" the distance has been bridged already and the outcome is a given especially, when the attacker is a seasoned street survivalist.
Possible solution might be looking at his chin. His cuts might be non telegraphic, but if you look at his chin your peripheral vision will notice one of the shoulder being in a different state than the other shoulder. The shoulder that is attached to the arm that is doing the cutting will most likely move and your peripheral vision will notice it. This method would probably work the best since his stance reveals the complete front of the body, you will notice something change when he is about to strike, unless his non-telegraphing skill is that of Bruce Lee
what is the solution left arm up. step to the right? keep a angle and hit from the left.., (that the theory, based on the knife threat) putting that into practice needs spacial awareness, and motion.. but seeing the knife should you be using angles to minimize the threat ,and a open hand to strike in defence never and never a fist and that minimises your ability .. I'm quite old. and love sparring. we in the UK always respect and learn from our opponents. that's how you get better, never be a know it all. my grandad taught me the ultimate surprise move, its a double, stand on their moving balance foot, and at the same time take them doan , as they are off balance and for that 1 second are open.
holy shit that's fast
Awesome, that third guy actually blocked one, impressive. Good on him.
Why thank you lol. My neck was bright red after that
Goona need your hands up for that
It's interesting to see the mindset of people who are concerned about having their throats cut.
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To all those watching. I'm the last dude who managed to block the knife attack. So I've read comments about this exercise some negative and a few of y'all praising me for blocking so I'm flattered lol. I've been an avid Kenpo practioner for 5 years and now its more MCMAP because im a Marine. Crazy looking back at this clip 3 years ago I was still fairly new to the martial arts game. If anyone has any questions about my experience feel free to ask.
I’m going to preface this with saying I don’t think Mastro is doing anything other worldly here...he’s simply taking advantage of a reaction gap so it’s nothing against you....but you got cut on every single strike...so touching his arm is irrelevant..you didn’t block it if you got cut.
" There is effective defense against speed and surprise " ~~ Prof. Ronald Duncan ... That's why this works
Man you're rough with your students! 😱 the last guys poor neck 🙈
Yeah my neck was red af
Charge at him and duck. Either rugby tackle or turn back to knife whilst charging so barge him with shoulder and get a cheeky elbow in if possible. Worst case scenario is a slash to the shoulder, head or back (much better than neck).
Wasn't this already uploaded a few weeks ago?
has the guy shown what he proposes one does to defend/protect against a slash like that?
I know that if anyone (a stranger) comes to you within the steiking range you don't stand with your hands down.
out of stillness the knifer uses the element of surprise so of course the attack will have a higher success rate. reality is if the unarmed opponent sees the knife before hand, he would' nt stand so close and would try to keep a safer measure away from the knife attacker.
I know the moves really fast but would it be a little better defense to move in closer
why even brothering to block
as a sword combat trainer(>10yrs) who usually faced man size swords with real its actual weight and balance..
I tell u what I do if I saw someone get so close to be with another blade, I either leave that distance FIRST so I can change my form to fit the situation, or if I also happened to hv usable weapon in my hand, a deflection and a strike which expected to stop him immediately
When will Fred Mastro come to the S.F. CA.?
Wanna see this again but what happens if someone is actually paying attention to him and lunges towards him to instead of getting cut basically hit instead.
Kind of like with a bat instead of backing away closing the distance is better.
Not saying closing the distance is better in the long run for a knife fight
Saudações do Brasil.
The way to defeat someone with a longer reach is to close the distance fast.
does this means that all the technique in kali is useless afterall.?
just like when you box you watch the shoulders cause that's the first thing you drop when you throw a punch
I would love to see Ryan Hoover do this challenge bet he could ace it.
Unlikely if under the same terms and conditions Fred gives everyone else... as this is a test of the reaction gap... action always beats reaction, you simply wont have enough time to react to this cut in time to avoid it in most cases, especially not at this distance and with your hands down, it is pretty much impossible in that regard to block, this makes it look easier as the knife is a trainer, so no one is getting cut or harmed... but against a live blade, the results would be different.
The point of the demonstration is to sell you on the rest of the lesson, which will cover not allowing yourself to get in impossible to dodge striking range, etc.
No chance he could do this to Ed Parker and Darren Levine.
so could I kick to distract so that could get out of the way or attack first before he strikes .
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fred mastro excellent self defence system
really?
a simple demonstration to show the space between a movement and a reaction which is a good eye opener, practical representation of a real situation? i don't think so and I'm sure its not meant to be by mr. master either. If you don't already have your hands up as a cautionary defence then anyone and their cousin could catch you, the trick is seeing the potential for an altercation, gauging threats and analyzing it all before the threat reaches you, had the people started with their arms up in a guard situation it would be a very different story. point is if you're not aware of a situation before it reaches you at force good luck, which is often what you see in videos of altercations, someone is approached and without having a simple guard ready when the situation is coming to light, they are left in a tight corner and more often than not it ends badly for them. train to see ahead and intercept before the threat becomes a reality.
rule number one, never stand within striking distance when facing a known armed opponent with a knife or some other weapon. it's a loosing battle in most cases. if you must, get very close, in my opinion and experience...facing an armed opponent in a survival situation, what would be your recommendation?
I find it interesting that only one person reacted every time. The others seem to have mentally given up, not even reacting after being hit. Also, I think everyone is looking at his eyes, rather than his hands, shoulder, or knife.
Imagine Fred walking up behind you at an ATM..."Give me your money; jus' for fun."
By focusing the eyes on the attackers chest you will have a chance to block it. Not a hundred percent effective but you can make it work.
Do they specify in the rules that it has to come at an idle position?
I wonder which way of sharpening a knife would cut better, one sharpened razor sharp but down to like a 10,000 grit stone with a mirror finished edge, or one sharpened razor sharp but with a courser stone?
I prefer a toothy edge so stop at say 800-1000 grit Japanese Waterstone, When I am processing meat like deer that is all I do.
That's kind of what I'm thinking. I usually sharpen my pocket knife to a mirror edge but I've never tested to see if I need to go down that far.
I do cut into the stone but I also use a leather strop, and I pull it on the strop. So my knives will stay sharper longer if I don't use a strop? Or even a buffing wheel? Thanks. I met a guy selling knives at a gun show and he sharpened his knives on a belt grinder and went on and on about how his knives stayed sharp and cut longer because of the microscopic serrations.
everyone is recommending backing off and create distance or blocking with another body part, but I wonder what would happen if you leaned in for a headbutt or something. leaning in would put you out of the blades way and wouldn't be something the enemy would expect. but of course this goes against instinct in an unprepared moment.
leaning back to dodge is much slower and blocking with arms only works if you are much faster than the opponent to stop the momentum of his attack. the boxer shoulder shrug idea is pretty good, but you still get hurt.
also leaning in has less overall movement. from the attackers view the face is just getting bigger xD. by the time the attacker realises, he won't have time to pull his hand back. keep in mind that as the attacker, he is already focussed on the neck. if the neck moves further, he can adjust slightly. if it moves towards the attacker, it's much harder to anticipate and adjust.
But does the magic throat cut work if your opponent isn't just standing there with his hands down letting you attack him?
Of course not! It is just about action and reaction. So almost complete
BS in my opinion. The only thing you can learn from "his famous knife cut": Everything can happen (fast) within an arms reach. But that is not really that new!
"It’s just for fun. . . " not for application
You're missing the point... Go train and you will eventually find it!
That's why it's a block challenge