KAWASAKI P1 - INCREDIBLE Flying Display at ILA 2018 Air Show Berlin!
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- Planespotting at Berlin SXF/ILA Air Show 2018: Kawasaki P1 (japanese maritime patrol aircraft) performing a great FLYING DISPLAY at Berlin Schönefeld Airport (SXF) for ILA 2018 Air Show (First ever visit to Germany)! If you haven't already please SUBSCRIBE to PlaneSpottingBerlin for more Daily Aviation Videos from around the world - goo.gl/kL2ryK (Subscribe for free!).
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This is an excellent aircraft. It immediately calls to mind a long range standoff jamming aircraft, and a version with two larger weapons bays for standoff weapons. While the p-8 is also a truly excellent aircraft as well, I like this better!
Beautiful airplane 👍
Fly-by-Light. Very nice capable aircraft. Unlike many other large military aircraft, this one was never a commercial model or design refitted for military use. It was designed and built from the ground up by Kawasaki with the designated defense purpose of maritime patrol and anti-submarine warfare. There's a lot of cool stuff built into that bird.
I’m from USA and I don’t usually like foreign aircraft styles, but I love the style of this aircraft👍
Very cool! From certain angles and tone down the engines this reminds me of a modern day Convair 880 especially the tail, dead on 880!
The true successor of the
P3 Orion
I saw the aircraft at the ILA in Berlin. A really astonishing machine.
It cost about 160 million dollars (350.4 billion yen / 20 planes)
・Performance
Maximum speed: 996 km/h (619 mph, 538 kn)
Cruise speed: 833 km/h (518 mph, 450 kn)
Range: 8,000 km (5,000 mi, 4,300 nmi)
Combat range: 2,500 km (1,600 mi, 1,300 nmi)
Service ceiling: 13,520 m (44,360 ft)
Super Show, klasse eingefangen von Dir! Daumen hoch! Gruss inselvideo!
Best performance !
perfect
Wow. Wow .Wow . Brill. Well done Commander Ito and crew,
Great video! BTW the EC145T2, the helicopter appearing at the very end is also half Kawasaki, descendant of MBB-Kawasaki BK117
Precioso...
Probably the best MPA around, better than the P-8A Poseidon in terms of range and sensor suite. Impressive show and great video!
It's too bad that this is unlikely to do well compared to the P-8 due to the P-8's common architecture build around a commercial aircraft that makes part sourcing easier.
hjpop and the “probably” makes the Japanese better?
Not sure what you're getting at. The P-1 seems to be a good aircraft, if they can get the mainframe issues worked out, but the P-8 will be more successful because it is built on an established airplane body that has a ready supply of replacement parts and spares that can be sourced for cheap. The P-1 does not have that and the costs may be higher. Dunno if the P-1 design used Commercial Off the Shelf items or if things were built from scratch.
Pincer88, you are right.
P1 is sperior to P8, which the proffesional MPA / PSW pilots from all over the world see this point. More detailes I wrote to Stehen Bond, please refer to that.
Spare parts for P1 has no problem, even P8 specific parts delivery has more problem( 400 sections of P8 were modified). P8 specific simple components need at least 6 Months to be delivered.
Because P8 is a militar aircraft, in the first the American Government's approval for this components is required, in accordance with FMS system. If more complicated components is ordered, it could be one year is required to be delivered.
There is Kawasaki C1 Transport aircraft, which have been in service since 43 years, Kawasaki has taken care of the spare parts for C1 since then, C1 has been replaced gradually with new C2, since one year.
czcams.com/video/F8Mq-cr-lEs/video.html
This is P1, the Inside of P1 in action / Japanese Defence Ministrium short presentation.
czcams.com/video/XrEAKrDkoUA/video.html
Kawasaki C2 & C1
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The below is a conversations with a Newzeeland journalist and MPA/ASW pilots from all over world at Singapore Air Expo Jan.2018.
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Well done I thought it was very well written, can you elaborate more on the conversations in regards to the comments from RAAF/USN crews. And was the comment about airframe sharing between RAAF/RNZAF was that their own view or something more official?
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The airframe sharing idea has been around for a while now, but yes they were expecting if we went that way it would become problematic since the USN and RAAF P8’s fulfil a niche role and application in their larger force structure, as opposed to the more ‘all of government’ and flexible way we would be required to operate our sole MPA/ASW/ISR platform. In a way, you have to be careful what you take from young aircrew talking in front of their airplanes. I made it very clear I was a journalist when speaking to them. The most enlightening conversation came from the plethora of current and ex MPA crews from all over the world who were working in the stands of the expo, who were guarded talking about the particular product they were there to sell, ie: a radar system, or rescue pod, or EO turret or whatever, but were more than willing to wax lyrical concerning general trends and doctrines in the maritime patrol business. All of them had very good things to say about the P1 and Swordfish (or their own system if they worked for an OEM), but there were not many P8 fans on the floor of the expo... In two cases, even the P8 crews themselves talked down the platform. I really tried to talk to Boeing, but they were not very forth coming.
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Crews talked down their own platforms?
Okay...
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Yes, in that their platform was inescapably a 737, and the limitations that inherently imposed
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www.defencetalk.com/military/forums/t/royal-new-zealand-air-force.6601/page-340
We trust made in japan
Did you notice its the Japanese KC-135 and the C-2 is the Japanese C17
Einfach nur klasse!
vielen Dank!
Wow. That plane looks cool! Did you meet cargospotter? :P liked!
Incredible Video!!!! :)
thank you!!
Whoa..........that barrel roll and nosedive though
Naw....just a very steep bank. Now, if Tex Johnson had been flying it....who knows??
Looks like p3 with Turbofans. Very impressive with 4 engines.
Sehr schönes video, noch nie von diesem Flugzeug gehört, sehr interessant.
Ein vierstrahler sieht einfach immer gut, die Kawasaki hat ein bisschen etwas von einer mini DC-8 :D
Thomas ing Das stimmt
@@chrisdagford6642even engines are Japanese
I have a KLX 140
Having 4 engines causing more disruption with sensors for detection from what UK trial found out thus UK went with more expensive P8. P1 also made an error with claim that S Korean destroyers used targeting radar on them when they were using detection radar to rescue N Korean fisherman.
It’s shape makes it almost look like a mini a380
Should have replaced the Nimrod with these excellent aircraft
Almost a barrel roll .. very similar to the C-17 display. What was the purpose of the aircraft coming? Looking for customers outside Japan?
To answer your question, yes. They've been trying to export this aircraft to several other countries and their newest bid is to France and Germany.
Its for ASW, and has a lower acoustic signature.
aaaaaaaalter was ist denn das für ein bank angle?
Holy crap. This plane is a fighter-bomber in disguise!
P-1 > P- 8 Posiden in looks and capability
India should collaborator with Japan to build heavy lifter aircraft like c17
Nice looking aircraft! Land-based so don't need STOL capabilities. 4 engines...adding more maintenance costs. P-8 I'm guessing is far better on acquisition and mission capabilities. I'm surprised they decided on four engines. Front kind of looks like a P-3. Obviously wings and tail different.
Interesting.
Lol I looked at it again and sure enough the nose and fuselage of a Lockheed P-3. It struck me about loitering ability. I'm thinking shutting down one engine on a P-8 is not an option or benefit for extended loitering time. I believe the P-8 is capable of in-flight refueling. This KAWASAKI could obviously shut down two to increase loitering time like the P-3 can.
I'm probably missing some sales points on this. Need to read about it obviously. Love the ground spoiler deployment!
4 Engines: Japanese Navy’s Spec.
P1 is a military MPA(Marin Patrol Air Craft) /ASW(Anti Submarine Warfare) 4 I I would like to inform more detailes of P1.
4-Engines: Japanese Navy’s Spec.
P1 is a military MPA(Marin Patrol Air Craft) /ASW(Anti Submarine Warfare) aircraft, he has to complete his missions in various situations and conditions, not like a passenger Airplanes purpose, which fly at high altitude, from A to B economically.
MPA/ASW aircraft needs high survivability and reliability to complete his mission. If, one of four engines is down by bird strike etc., the rest of those 3 Engines are still alive (75% of the power remains), and if the second Engine is unluckily also down (still 50% of power remains), he can still fly safely. P1 have a loitering ability like other 4-Engine planes, P3 & Nimrod. 2 Engine can be shut down during the fight and fly with the rest of 2 Engines for long hours (fuel saving).
P1 can fly even slower than P3 at lower altitude, but he flies faster than P8 at higher altitude.
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P1 Engine (IHI) is consisted of non-rust materials against salt. An individual fuel control computer is fit to the each Engine, in order to achieve the best fuel consumption.
The P1 4 engines maintenance is easier than P3 with 4 Turboprop Engines ( jet engine + gear mission + propeller mechanism).
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Air Frame:
P1 air frame is made with very strong structure, especially wings, because the air-friction at the low level altitude is much higher than that of high altitude, the air density at low altitude is very high.
P8 received 400 modifications not only the Wing(reinforcement), but also for the whole aircraft, therefore P8 became very expensive.
For example: Japanese stealth supersonic (X)ASM-3 Air to ship missile flies at 5.150km/h(Mach 5), at 1.000m above the sea, but the he flies only at 3.090km/h(Mach 3), at 50m above the sea, because of the enormous air friction at the low level altitude, the air hat so much high density.
Therefore, P1’s main Wings are very wide, where can win enough air lift force at low speed flight, at the low altitude. On the contrary to that of P1, P8 has very narrow wings as a modern passenger aircraft, his wings are able to win less air lift force at slow speed, at low-flight condition than that of P1.
Although P8 can fly at low altitude, his best is at the high altitude flight, accordingly his torpedo needs an adapter, which small holding- wings and GPS, and it leads the torpedo from the high altitude to the targeted point on the sea. US Navy P8 requires also support by UAV Triton MQ-4C. One Triton costs probably 60-70 million US. Dollars.
P1 flies with Fly by Light, his wire harness cable are not copper wires, but it has a light signals cable, so that there are no negative influence by electric magnetic field to those sensitive electrical sensors and equipements. P8 is still carry over from 373 copper wire harness.
P8 Delivery to Australian & Royal Navies has started, they did not order Triton
however,from cost reason and also satellite is also required for that use.
I wonder how the both navies operate P8.
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The below is a conversations with a Newzeeland journalist and MPA/ASW pilots from all over world at Singapool Air Expo Jan.2018.
--
Well done I thought it was very well written, can you elaborate more on the conversations in regards to the comments from RAAF/USN crews. And was the comment about airframe sharing between RAAF/RNZAF was that their own view or something more official?
The airframe sharing idea has been around for a while now, but yes they were expecting if we went that way it would become problematic since the USN and RAAF P8’s fulfil a niche role and application in their larger force structure, as opposed to the more ‘all of government’ and flexible way we would be required to operate our sole MPA/ASW/ISR platform. In a way, you have to be careful what you take from young aircrew talking in front of their airplanes. I made it very clear I was a journalist when speaking to them. The most enlightening conversation came from the plethora of current and ex MPA crews from all over the world who were working in the stands of the expo, who were guarded talking about the particular product they were there to sell, ie: a radar system, or rescue pod, or EO turret or whatever, but were more than willing to wax lyrical concerning general trends and doctrines in the maritime patrol business. All of them had very good things to say about the P1 and Swordfish (or their own system if they worked for an OEM), but there were not many P8 fans on the floor of the expo... In two cases, even the P8 crews themselves talked down the platform. I really tried to talk to Boeing, but they were not very forth coming.
--
Crews talked down their own platforms?
--
Okay...
Yes, in that their platform was inescapably a 737, and the limitations that inherently imposed
--
www.defencetalk.com/military/forums/t/royal-new-zealand-air-force.6601/page-340.
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Thanks for reading a long Texst
What are the chances that one of the designers was from Douglas?
douglas dont exit anymore and most of the designers are retired or work for boeing lol
This is a buy, if the price gets down･･･
その目的に特別進化、特化した機体だから価値はある！、まだいろいろ問題点、特にエンジン面であるようだが、ビジネス的には難しいとしても…あってはならない実戦面では相当活躍するであろう実力､戦力を持つと思われる、最後に、優れた機体は、優れた生態と優れた飛翔力を持つ鳥に良く似ると言われるが、この機体は、コアホウ鳥に良く似て、可愛らしく、そして美しい！。
kawasakiって、有名なの？？
バイク作ってるから、少なくともバイク好きには有名だと思いますよ
Das mit dem ATC-Scanner ist aber nicht so ganz sauber...
+Markus G. Welcher ATC Scanner? Das ist eine Air Show mit Lautsprechern und Kommentatoren?! Hast wohl noch nie ATC gehört oder? Sowas würden die ja wohl da nicht durchgeben 😂😂
PlaneSpottingBerlin ✈ Aviation Videos ich rede von dem verlinkten Gerät in der Videobeschreibung. Ich war davon ausgegangen, dass das Abhören von ATC in Deutschland leider verboten ist.
Ach das meinst du - besitzen ist ja nicht verboten...
Benutze ihn halt auf meinen Auslands Spotting Trips - z.B. Hong Kong, Los Angeles oder Toronto :D
The Japanese KC-135
Ｐ－3Ｃのコピージェット判。
日本の航空機で一番オリジナルっぽいのは・・・。
ＵＳ－2だけ‼️。
Mir immer noch total unverständlich warum die Deutsche Marine statt der Kawasaki die Boeing vorzog..Aber es scheint wie fast immer in Deutschland ein Politischer
Kniefall / vor Leistungsdaten und Kosten vor den USA zu sein.. Nicht nachvollziebar❗Die kawasaki scheint das bessere Flugzeug zu sein.. 🙄🤔
Looks like a big Banzai flying target.
馬鹿の一つ覚えのように、UP画面ばかり！
地上が写り込んで初めて、高機動かどうかがわかるのに。
背景が雲ばかり…
馬鹿がやかましいわ
Not beauty
I think that there are many people who think that it looks bad, but why? Because the cockpit window is big!
Not only because this window is shared with the same Kawasaki C - 2 transport aircraft, it also considers securing visibility as a patrol aircraft. I want you to compare with US military P - 8 patrol aircraft!
The size of the airframe of p-1 and the size of the window! In the aircraft, the world's single glass is P-1