OASIS: Every Studio Track Recorded For Champagne Supernova?
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- Join James Hargreaves on a journey below the surface of 'Champagne Supernova' to hear a massive array of buried takes, forgotten parts, and weird & wonderful noises hidden deep within the original mix of one of the most dense and complex of the Oasis recordings.
EDIT - Further tracks have been picked out by the subscriber / viewer community:
TRACK 28 - second acoustic guitar track, panned right, piezo sound, lower in the mix (thanks to Jimboobism for that one)
TRACK 29 - audible low A mellotron drone blended with the 2 E bows which stops abruptly at around 7:19, audible in the original track (thanks to Matt Phillips for that one)
UPDATE - Sound Engineer from the WTSMG sessions Nick Brine has responded to the question of the melodica! The ebow/melodica drone is apparently a loop of ebow, melodica AND mellotron! Find out more here - open.spotify.com/show/182j6i1...
Please let me know if you catch any more and I will add them to the list!
JH
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Many thanks, JH.
Owen Morris: How many Guitar tracks, Noel?
Noel Gallagher: Yes.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha yeah sounds about right
Owen: “Which guitar track, Noel?”
Noel: “Fucking all of them!”
Liam’s isolated vocals are outstanding. That man was born to be a Rockstar, what a voice! Cracked up when you stretched out that “Don’t know whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy” James. Cheers for another top video bro. 🤙🏻
hahahahahahaha cheers 👍👍🎸🎸
I couldn’t believe quite how long Liam held that note. Is that for real or a mix effect?
@@GT380man well Owen Morris said Liam was auto tuned all the way through Morning Glory so maybe it is a mex effect
@@robwood8331 where? didn't think auto tune existed then. even today not the best way to tune vocals
@@Curious_Party oh sorry I'm old I meant adjusted his vocal
James - where have you been all of our lives?!
Cheers Neil!
James Hargreaves Guitar i had always wondered which solo Weller played...!
@@neil7994 Detailed tab to come on the Weller solo...
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Nice one, mate!
Where were u while we were getting high
When that flailing electric guitar track kicks in it really lifts the song up to another level for me. Hard to describe.
The birdsong effect can be achieved by taking a finger slide and sliding up the high E and B strings past the neck and up by the pick ups. It sounds like Noel's sliding back and forth between the pick up and the end of the neck
Sounds like some delay effect f*ckery on top of what you describe.
Do more of these mate they’re class
Cheers Kyle I appreciate it
I wish rock&roll would give birth to a band like Oasis again
I think a ton of people think the same
Check us out!
I just wish Oasis would reunite.
@@polycube868 now they might as Noel’s wife is finally off the scene!
Music is so bad now it’s embarrassing! 🤦
Good call with the 2 E-Bow tracks. I always thought that it might be a sampled melodica for infinite sustain. However, the glissando at the end of the songs gives it away that it’s actually a guitar played with a E-Bow.
Owen: How many guitar tracks do you want?
Noel: yes
sounds about right
2 acoustic guitars on this, panned left and right. The right hand one sounds like a piezo pickup.
Yes you're right... good ear
Other people have commented this, but I would love to see a future video dissecting Bonehead's rhythm guitar sound and how important it is to the overall 'wall of sound' you get in Oasis songs. Particularly in a song like Supersonic, where I've always felt his guitar is especially clear and isolated (whereas in most other songs his and Noel's rhythm parts kinda blend together) and it sounds amazing. Love your work, as always!!
Hi James, yeah there is definitely a lot of interest in the Bonehead stuff. May look into it 👍🎸
Very nice, that e-bow detail was surprising!
Thanks! Yeah the e-bow vs melodica thing... the debate still rages apparently hahaha
Hope you dissect some Be Here Now songs in the future. As I've read and heard somewhere that the album was overly produced. Thanks
I've heard that dyou know what I mean had over 70 guitars on it, and an entire Orchestra was being played through a tiny amp lmao
@@masonmennell8514 D'You Know What I Mean would be an hour long video
James I'd put forward that the triangle is actually an A on a glockenspiel!
Very interesting suggestion! You may be right!
I’m a huge Oasis fan and loving the deep dives into these songs. It’s like rediscovering them all over again. Keep up the great work, really enjoying the channel.
Would love to see some with the tracks from Be Here Now (All around the world would be my #1 request).
Thanks Lloyd, request noted! Not sure what I'm going to do for the next project, as I've still got a ton of vids to do for Champagne Supernova, but I'll bear it in mind. Cheers
For the bird sound effects, I have the answer : it's a bottleneck close to pickups with delay !!! I've done this in the past...
Like they did in Freebird
OK... thanks to the golden-eared subscriber / viewer community for these supplemental tracks...
TRACK 28 - second acoustic guitar track, panned right, piezo sound, lower in the mix (thanks to Jimboobism for that one). Interesting note - the rhythm is different to Noel's louder track, so this one is probably Bonehead.
TRACK 29 - audible low A mellotron drone blended with the 2 E bows which stops abruptly at around 7m19s, audible in the original track (thanks to Matt Phillips for that one)
RE BIRDSONG (?) EFFECT - I've had several different suggestions so far on this one. Someone mentioned it is Paul Weller whistling, someone said it is a bottleneck being played over the pickups, someone else said it was an actual recording of birdsong, and someone else suggested pick scrapes on a heavily effects-processed guitar... Let me know if anyone has sources for these and I will update this post. Ta.
UPDATE - Sound Engineer from the WTSMG sessions Nick Brine has responded to this question! The ebow/melodica drone is apparently a loop of ebow, melodica AND mellotron! Find out more here - open.spotify.com/show/182j6i1EQxXSJbJQGMeqG2?si=loZHuObpTjW924VmgrVo7w&dl_branch=1
Please let me know if you catch any more and I will add them to the list!
JH
Got another potential one re: mellotron. After the first chorus during the quieter sections ie verses and octave guitar solos, I’m not sure if there are very high droning notes, it’s very faint and sounds a bit like the “flutes” sound of a mellotron. I might be wrong as it could just be the harmonics from the ebow guitar parts.
James, I know this website is the least reputable source on the internet but on the personnel section for the song on Wikipedia, Owen Morris is credited for ‘whistle’ so this could potentially be the bird whistling effect. As mentioned though, it probably should be taken with a grain of salt
That bird sound is Paul Weller whistling. Bonehead mentioned it on Twitter during an event recently, you’d find it easily
An extraordinary listen, thank you, James.
This is at least the fourth time I’ve come to this video. Glorious.
Great again mate, it’s just so interesting to dissect these songs and reveal their secrets!
Cheers Jaiden, thanks for watching. Yeah its a lot of fun to research 👍👍
You realise quite often it's just layering things up a lot.
I love how much effort you put into these, thankyou so much! 😊
Glad you like them!
Really interesting stuff well done mate 👍🏻😎wish more tracks were explained like this 💯
This is great you gotta keep them coming much needed !
That's the plan!
Fantastic channel and work James . Keep up the great work .best wishes from Liverpool
James, that was so interesting. Really enjoyed that. Thank you so much.
Very welcome
Thanks James from Bergamo, Italy!!!
Your videos are really brilliant, I've been a massive Oasis fan since 1994 and, unfortunately, a crap guitar player but you give me the will to play more and more!!! 😉
Great work. Really enjoyed this!
Glad to hear it! more to come
Another brilliant video. I find this and the Don’t Look Back in Anger analysis absolutely fascinating. Many thanks 😀
Thanks John, I appreciate it 👍👍🎸🎸
So great listening to these deep dives. Amazing
Excellent work bud I played that tune for nearly 20 years you have opened my ears to stuff I never new was there 🤘🏽
Cool stuff glad to hear it 👍👍🎸🎸
Brilliant video James, who thought after listening to a song for over 25 years, that there was so much more to learn about it!!
thanks Lewis , yes I agree, and I’m aware I haven’t covered even half of the stuff that was actually recorded for it!
What an exellent video - cheers - I had no idea there were so many parts on this song.
Thanks for that Simon! Yeah and I apparently missed at least 2 (2nd acoustic guitar and one of the mellotrons seemingly)
Another awesome video, James!
Cheers Marcel 👍👍👍
Absolutely blown away!!
Big fan of your work sir!!
Thanks Wayne! Massively appreciated 👍👍🎸🎸
What i like about this song is the fact that it ends in the most confusing part.... Like the first verse is repeated for eternity until noel start playing the leads slower as if it disintegrate to end but trying not to... Great song to jam coz it never ends like any worship song. Lyrics are modular and always sounds great
Noel Gallagher's demo guide vocal track was not completely erased. It is still on the multitracks on the last repeating 'We were getting high' at the end of the song. Even if not heard on the original mix of the song, it is heard on the remix of the song on the What's The Story Morning Glory box set taken from the same pro tools master. I don't remember if the mystery mellotron is noticeable in that mix.
Fantastic stuff! Fascinating.
Cheers Bob. Yeah that song is so much more complex, layered and detailed than most people realise
Another class vid 👏👏
Thanks again!
We will never listen to this song the same again
Awesome. Developing those deep listening skills eh...
great videos james! best band in the world!
James: my respects !!! I look forward to the next video. Greetings from Córdoba Argentina
Awesome! Thank you! Greetings from England 👍👍🎸🎸
Keep doing these Oasis vids bud! Massive Oasis fan and these videos are so interesting when you go through it track by track 😀
Thanks! Will do!
These videos are brilliant very informative 👏
Thanks Bob, much appreciated
I just happened upon your channel and you’ve definitely earned a subscription. Cheers!
Awesome, thank you!
Great Video
Wellers guitar sticks out for me and makes the song even more dynamic. The instrumental version is epic.
Brilliant video lad 🙌
Cheers! thanks for that
Top video, great insights!
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing! You discovered a lot!
Yeah, was a ton of fun to research 👍👍🎸🎸
Great video man! Very informative. Choon!!
Appreciate it!
I always think this song is a bit too crowded especially at the 2nd interlude but like in a beautiful way. It's like seeing a star going supernova slowly with all the colors, sparks explosions and stuff while I'm high on psychedelic drugs.
The waves sfx and melodica part are also magical (which I've always thought as harmonica or accordion)
And lastly, there's hope for me to be a professional triangle (THE MIGHTY TRIANGLE) player.
Thanks James
Blimey that was really bloody insightful.
I've never really thought about that, but you are right... the actual sound itself - the mass of layers in this recording somehow paint the picture of an actual supernova out in space, massive, overwhelming, forceful and moving.
I think that might be one of the sharpest comments I've ever had on this channel. Nice one...
JH
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Kudos for your generosity of spirit. If I was a musician, I’d want to work with you :)
That open attitude, while showing you’re entirely capable of being the chief when that’s needed is just right to help others be their best.
Great video mate 👍
Thanks for the visit
Really detailed Great ❤️
Thank you! Cheers!
Brilliant song and research!
Just found this channel, im more a musician and not an engineer but this helps me hugely to help me break down tracks and adding subtlety :)
always fun to learn new production techniques 👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar my teachers made it so boring and put me off it but this has me inspired :D
@@TheWaveGoodbye-Music hahahaha always fun to learn using music you actually like in my experience
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar yep :) loved oasis ever since I saw the royale family 😆 long time ago now
Another brilliant video
Thanks so much! Amazing what's hidden in that song! Mental
The “controlled feedback” track sounds a bit like an Ebow on the +1 octave setting, with the volume automated in the mixing stage.
Absolutely love Bonehead's playing on this. Zero fucks given, just smash it out.
Just amazing 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks Paolo 👍👍👍
Amazing stuff
Cheers Chris
This is an incredible video
thanks!
Track 22 Birdsong effect: That’s actually Paul Weller whistling 😗. Great job again James 👍🏽
Ahhhhh very interesting! You learn something new every day....
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar I've heard that same whistling on some of his songs. One that springs to mind is the song "eye of the storm", the b side to peacock suit.
Ah! I thought it was controlled feedback through a phase-shifter, and it was just whistling all along!
Such a great song
Rhythm... Ride, hi hat, crash or floor tom mostly To shift between musical sections [snare/ bass drum usually constant], .......Great stuff you do!
Just so good once again, I love hearing those isolated nuances that I've listened to all these years with no hope of ever finding out what they are - is there any way of getting the isolated acoustic guitar track without all of the musical wizardry you have (i just want to compare my humble strumming really ha) Top notch work once again mate
Thanks so much for that - sadly I'm not aware of any way to get the completely isolated guitar track... try your luck on youtube or google maybe, it might be out there, but I have to admit I'm not aware of it if it is
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar ah, never mind but thank you so much for the reply, seriously loving these Videos - the wife just laughed at me getting overly excited when I heard Weller's backing vocals 🤣🤣
hahahahahahaha that's cool... guy sings like he's swallowed a pound of gravel, yet it somehow sounds amazing
Really enjoying these analysis videos, James. Champagne supernova is a great song with that awesome mid-section and killer solo by Paul Weller. So, Owen Morris did a Lars Ulrich number on poor Guigsy by turning his bass down in the album mix, just as Lars did with Jason Newstead on his debut Metallica album lol. Great stuff, James look forward to your next CS video.
Cheers Kenny, glad you're enjoying it!
I remember an interview years ago where Noel said he went out one day with a tape recorder and recorded the water sounds at the nearby River Monnow.
Really? very interesting, I didn't know that
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar I just commented above. Apparently the rest of the band were mucking about in a canoe on the lake. See my comment above.
Fantastic video again James. A hell of a lot of work must go into making these. Out of interest, how do you come by the track stems?
Thanks for that - mostly on youtube, and for this song I also used the SACD version of the album
Thanks
You make us see more magic in magic.
Thanks Rodrigo, glad you enjoyed 👍👍🎸🎸
Great
These videos are so interesting!! Thanks for making these! Do you think the shaker egg is being used as a Metronome?
cheers, no, I don’t think the shaker egg is being used as a metronome because when they talk about the making of the album, Noel and Owen Morris both say that they recorded to a click
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Interesting. I think I once heard in an interview Noel talking about Phil Spector's Wall of Sound and maybe that's what he was going for. I knew there was a lot going on in some of the WTSMG tracks but never would have guessed that Champagne Supernova had 27 tracks, and DLBIA had so many.
Superb video James! Thanks very much. Regarding the bassline, I’ve often wondered if the bass in the alternate Brendan Lynch mix on the Morning Glory reissue (CD2, track 13) is a different bass part by Noel. Seems much more active and melodic to me. Higher in the mix too, relative to Owen M’s mix. Maybe Lynch found this in the multitrack when he was remixing(?).
Re the remix, i think that was added in by Lynch himself, along with some of the organ sounds that can be heard early on in the mix. To be honest, I think the bassline on the BL remix is probably a little more advanced than Noel's playing, personally
Hey James, my guess for the birdsong bit is a slide through effects
absolutely smashed this!!! where did you get access to the track files?
Thanks Raphael - I used various isolated tracks that were available on youtube, and also the SACD version of Whats The Story Morning Glory
The “bird effect” sounds like pic scrapes on a heavily effected guitar. Could have been a happy accident thing.
Yeah sounds possible
My guess would be that there's a slide involved.
Could listen to this song for the rest of my life
It's a goodun...
I love your oasis breakdowns. How do you manage to get these isolated tracks? They are superb and I'd love to learn to create backing tracks as I'm learning guitar recently. Much love from Brazil! 👏🇧🇷
Hi Pedro - for this I used the rock band isolated tracks - you can find lots of these on youtube just by looking for 'champagne supernova isolated' or similar. I also used the individual tracks from the SACD version of this album. Hope that helps, cheers, James
Very interresting thanks. Hello de la France. Suggestion for the next one : Acquiesce ?
Hello back de la England! Cool, thanks for the suggestion - noted 👍👍🎸🎸
There's also a short Noel backing vocal singing "where were you while we were getting high" - they're more clearly heard on the Brendan Lynch mixes and also the Super Audio CD mix - not sure if they're as audible on the Rock Band stems.
Ah interesting. Do you have a time / location? would be interested
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar It is very difficult to hear on the standard mix unless you know what you're looking for. I'd heard the Lynchmob beats mix back in 1996 with the Noel vocal at 3.58 ( czcams.com/video/RUlpGtGjLSE/video.html ) . Then in move up to Lynch's more standard mix, you hear the Noel vocal first at 1.58 then repeatedly backing up Liam throughout the song ( czcams.com/video/DcE_LJq_T9k/video.html ). The Super Audio Mix also ( czcams.com/video/VsGlLS9JmsI/video.html ) has this, most clearly at 6.30 where Liam changes the way he sings the line. When you listen back to the original it's still hard to make out, but you can sense it, the line has that little bit more depth when you listen out for it.
16:55 - I do that all the time since 1988. It's just gliding the guitar pic up n down one of the thicker guitar strings, obviously with some flanger and reverb added.
He's just doing short couple of fret jumps up n down at a time, maybe like down tthree frets up two, obviously not exactly that, but do something like that on each of the 4 lower strings, one of them should be the one that makes that sound.
Hi James loving the content, just wondering could you explore NG’s rig rundown over the years, about the heat he uses etc
Hi Niall, thanks for that, its a possibility for future videos, but to be honest I am getting so many daily video requests at the moment i am slightly losing track...
I'll probably put it to a vote at some point after the Champagne Supernova mini series is up.
Cheers bud
I can't remember which site it is now (someone linked me on a forum, I'll try and find it) but it lists all of Oasis' gear used throughout (I think) their career but may have just been the first 2 or 3 albums. Guitars, amps, mics etc.
Great job again James. Curious though, where do you get these separated tracks?
Thanks smitcher, I used isolated tracks on youtube and for this song I also listened to the isolated 5.1 tracks from the SACD mix of the Morning Glory album
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Thank you, that makes sense. What a track!!
The waves (Noel said in an interview once) were recordings of Bonehead, Liam and I'm guessing Guigsy messing around in a canoe on the lake (that apparently you have to cross to get to the recording studio). They were messing around doing that while Noel was working hard in the studio.
cool, do you have the reference for this by any chance?
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar I don't sorry. I have the feeling it was on the interviews included with the Definitely Maybe 10th Anniversary DVD I used to have but maybe not as it's not a Definitely Maybe track is it but if it was recorded at the same studio, may have just mentioned that.
Definitely enjoying listening to tracks I haven't heard in years after all your analysis videos.
Great! Thanks for watching
What program do you use to get ALL the tracks from the guitar and other instruments?
2:29 sounds like one bell from a glockenspiel. C# to be precise. No triangle.
Great vid. Re. The mellotron, I know you’ve established that the ‘melodica’ is actually two Ebow tracks, but - hear me out - at the 7:21 mark in the outro it sounds like a lower, warmer note in the Ebow part suddenly ends, almost as if someone has taken their finger off a mellotron key...but the two Ebow notes carry on playing until the very end. Is it possible that throughout the end of the song there is a mellotron playing a drone note under the Ebow parts? Have a listen...
Very fascinating possibility! So the upper two notes are the two e-bow tracks and there is a lower drone which is the mellotron... I think that is definitely a possibility. You can hear him slide down off one of the ebow tracks in the outro, but like you say, the deepest note just stops dead... very interesting
16:20 I’m pretty sure the “laughter” is actually seagulls recorded by McCartney. Might even be played backwards aswell I can’t remember. Thinks it’s in the anthology book. There is laughter recorded on the end of sgt peppers though.
There’s a guitar break starting around the 4:35 mark which sounds a lot like Paul Weller to me, not sure if you mentioned that. It has a kind of Stanley Road vibe.
Yes that's Paul Weller's solo, I did mention it 👍🎸
Some of the mellotron plugins I have used have ebow tape samples, not sure if these were available for the original instruments, so technically the stem could be both ebow and mellotron?
Another class video of one of the best song of 90s. I do still think it's too crowded.. then I came across Brendan Lynch mix which is toned down & some twist in the bass line with some flange/phaser fx (?). I'd like to know what's your opinion...Thank you!
Yeah - the BL mix is actually a really interesting listen - its what Champagne Supernova would have been with a sparse, spacious mix, rather than the dense complicated monster it is in reality! The bassline in that one is new, also I think the organ that can be heard early on, and yes there is a slow phaser or something over parts of it. Other than that, it's just the pre-recorded tracks mixed in a much more open, spacious way. I like it - everything except the phase effect actually.
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Agree with you about the phase. On more thing, I always thought it's woman vocal on the last "we were getting high" line
Your channel is next "classic albums" series, but much better
the great is about the nineties, what a decade for music
Thanks Igor, I appreciate it
And yes, the 90s is the greatest time in British music since the 60s
Great, you have sub from me! Any chance for BHN era songs deconstruction?
Thanks! Possibly in the future yeah, could be fun 👍👍🎸🎸
Hi James, What do you think of The Brendan Lynch remix of the track that was featured on the Deluxe Edition of WTSMG?
Hi Rhys, its good, the only thing I dont like on it is the phaser effect that is on various parts of the mix at different times.
I think its a good contrast to the original mix, because its so spacious and open, a lot more sparse than the absolutely overwhelming amount of stuff in the Owen Morris version. I'll be honest though, I do prefer the Morris mix, and I tend to use the BL remix mostly for reference if I want to hear certain buried tracks a little clearer.
How do you isolate the tracks? Do you have access to stems? Cheers
Hey James, how are you I just found out the live budokan 98 version of champagne supernova is it possible for you to tab it out and speak about it ?
Cheers mate. 😃
Now I don't know for sure if this is actually the mellotron track, But I had to come here and say it. There exists a video on youtube called champagne supernova unmixed, And during the part just before wellers guitar solo, I can definitely hear something out of the ordinary. To me, it did not sound like an e-bow, And slowly but surely I came to the conclusion that it may or may not be the mellotron. Keep in mind this mellotron track is in the really loud part of the song, So no wonder nobody can hear it. I would love to hear what you think about this, James.
That birdsong thing sounds just like someone running their hand down the strings with the guitar plugged in. We’ve all done it. Sounds like that but controlled, with it rising and falling. Perhaps a slide?
Hi James I was looking at that list and no Ocean Colour Scene ! I think Hundred mile high city , Get blown away would be great songs to break down .
I love ocs... there will be some Ocean Colour Scene stuff in the future…
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Good stuff as much as I loved oasis ocs were far superior musicians and in my opinion a better band , but looking forward to your vid👍
The original running sheet is reproduced in the 2014 WTSMG reissue:
1.
2./3. TRACK
4. D.T. LEAD VOX
5. PAUL 4
6. PAUL 5
7. ICE BELL
8. LEAD GTR (M)
9. PAUL BVOX #1
10. FINAL LEAD VOCAL UNTUNED
11.EBO GTR #1
12. EBO GTR #2
13. END VS EXTRA EBO GTR
14. PAUL BVOX #2
15. MILITARY DRUM
16. TUNED FINAL LEAD VOX
17. NOEL BVOX
18. NOEL BVOX
19. SOLO BOUNCE
20. LOW 'NAHS'
21. HI 'NAHS'
22.
23.
24. EBO (???)
Ah very interesting! I'm guessing 'military drum' is the snare overdubs