All Engines Shut Down in Mid-Flight | Falling Fast (Terrifying Moments on Tape)
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- čas přidán 27. 09. 2023
- Shortly after takeoff, the pilots of Flight 3378 decided to leave the landing gear fully extended since a malfunction had prevented its proper retraction. However, a few hours later, the plane ran out of fuel. Five years later, both engines of the aircraft operating Flight 1153 cut out in mid-flight over the Mediterranean Sea. Find out what really happened.
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What a huge engineering mistake to use the same gauge connector for different tank capacities. It's criminal negligence.
Agreed, that is a huge design flaw.
The design isn't the issue. ATR-42 is half the size of an ATR-72. Like putting a 757 fuel indicator into a 737@@Taladar2003
Sounds like a cost savings.
The saddest part is that the pilot was guilty as they said..
Pilot reported the issue to the grounds crew
Grounds crew installed the wrong part
Pilot did nothing wrong@@MohamedYahiaoui-wn1wg
Pro Tip: When your FMS says "Lo Fuel" immediately declare an emergency and ask ATC for vectors to the nearest airport.
Just germans doing german things
Or maybe don't try to fly to your destination with the landing gear stuck down.
Not even a pro tip - even aero sucre knows that one.
@@dx1450 : Yes. Although it's OK to fly to an alternative airport that is within half the distance to the original destination. (Lowered landing gear approximately doubles fuel consumption).
Well duhh
It’s frustrating that every single crash investigation report seems to conclude ‘extreme workload and stress’ almost like a routine whiplash claim. The captain made a number of erratic errors and calculated decisions and this is nothing more than gross negligence.
Mistakes and poor judgement happen when you are sleep deprived and overworked. It's scientifically proven that your brain operates similar to being drunk after not sleeping for a night. I could imagine that jetlag and long flights cause similar problems..
Being overworked creates a stress that reduces judgment and decision making and causes people to take more risks and bigger risks because their judgement is impacted. It's like being sleep deprived.
Why would the A-310 crew decide to make the entire flight with the gear down? That's pretty stupid when all they had to do was turn around, land and see what the defect is. Very poor judgement from the Captain.
That was my thought. But then I saw the rule saying that you can continue as long as you respect the speed limit for when the landing gear is down. The fuel miscalculation was the biggest problem there.
They could safely fly with it. The decision itself isn't stupid. What got them in trouble is that they didn't actually calculate their fuel levels, and the captain ignored the warning signs he wouldn't make it to Vienna
Would the faulty indicators allow them to calculate the rate of fuel consumption, even if it gave the wrong indication of the amount they had? Or would it not even allow that calculation to be made? The Captain wasted too much time getting the FO to try restarting the engines, instead of preparing for the ditching. I hadn’t thought how important unlocking the cockpit door would be! He may well have made a PA and liaised with the flight attendants, but it wasn’t mentioned.
@@moiraatkinson You are talking about the second video - the original post is about the first incident caused by a fault with the landing gear.
you cant land with fuel tanks full.... too heavy. they would have to dump fuel
first and cant do it over populated area.
In the second video...I was shocked to learn what happened to the pilots.
In March of 2009, both the pilot and co-pilot were sentenced to ten-year jail sentences Charged with Manslaughter over the death of 16 passengers.
I feel sorry for the pilots and those who lost their loved ones who didn't survive. ✝
Edit: *My comment was referring to the 2nd story only.*
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I see what you write but I totally disagree. None of this would have happened if, when realising that the landing gear would not retract, he immediately did what any pilot would do and turn back to the take off airport. It was totally his mistake (allowing for the circumstances of the wrongly fitted parts) and mistakes in life get punished.
@@trainmanbobthe 2nd video is the one where the incorrect gauge was fitted. Not the case where the landing gear would not retract.
Captain made horrible decisions what was his deal??
I agree with you.. that was really harsh.
He's talking about the second part of the video , Tunisian Flight@@trainmanbob
Palermo ATC: "20 miles, you're 20 miles out"
Captain: "We can't make it, both engines out"
Palermo ATC: "You're 20 miles out"
Captain: "Yes I know, our engines are out, can't make it"
Palermo ATC: "What? You have 20 miles to go"
Rinse and repeat
As someone said to me I used to think this man was rude when he said you haven't been listening properly have you, but if I'd been pilot I'd said that to ATC cos they weren't listening
Flaps up and try to glide?
The poor english pronunciation is also astonishing
Something quite similar to the first clip happened recently in my country (Russia). A plane headed for Omsk was experiencing hydraulic issues, and instead of landing at Omsk they decided to shoot for Novosibirsk (which is about 600 kilometers away) because it has a longer runway. But since they were flying with the gear down and were unable to rectract it - lo and behold they ran out of fuel short of Novosibirsk. They were able to successfully land the plane on a field, apparently nobody was seriously hurt.
I think I’ve seen the picture of that plane a few weeks ago. Luckily all are well
Kind of amazing how much more fuel is used when the gear is down. I get that it makes the plane less aerodynamic but that is a huge drag effect. Obviously that pilot underestimated it too!
Would've been just fine had the Captain listened to the F/O
Approximately double the fuel consumption.
It's not just the drag from the landing gear itself, but also that the plane's airspeed is severely limited with the landing gear down (to give one example, for a Boeing 737 the limit is 270 knots indicated), preventing it from operating in an efficient flight regime.
They could have looked at the fuel flow gauges and see how many miles they were doing in a certain amount of time. That would have showed them roughly what their range would be. Without looking at things like wind etc. Real shame though. There were many big airports where they could have landed. Athens, Dubrovnik, Tirana, Brindisi etc
Good video - the real audio ramps up the tension when you can hear how frightened the crew sound.
I work in airport operations at a large hub airport about 3 weeks ago we had a frontier a320 that departed but the landing gear would not retreat pilot IMMEDIATELY made a go around and arrived back at the airport and a alert 1 was issued. It just amazes me how the pilots completely disregarded the landing gear malfunction and continued to fly in the aircraft in such a handicapped state
That Palermo air traffic controller in the ATR72 case sure seems passive and quite useless, given the severity of the emergency situation.
Shockingly useless!
If anything, he made everything more confusing and therefore worse.
@@GK-yi4xv Investigators also accused them causing the crash.
@@luuduonghy659 They never feathered the propellers, causing drag. If they feathered them, they would have reached the terrain, but they didn't becsause they tried to restart the engines
@@filmwork1 It's so easy to speak afterwards while sitting in front of your laptop and sipping some tea.
"gooda lucka"
Yeegads...I learned flying jets in the USN, never, NEVER cycle the gear to get an 'up' indication. You run the risk of getting a stub or one down and all up..which is always bad. Cycle to get a 'down', but never cycle to get an Up...
Thanks for the proper procedure. I didn't know that.
Well, you should also remember that every single mistake has to be made once for you to know about its existence, and every single aviator out there has to appreciate the fact, that most of them have been made by others in the past, so we can profit from their suffering.
This accident occurred 20 years ago. There's no way any pilot of any kind of plane would actually make the insane decision to continue a commercial flight while the landing gear is stuck in its down position, nowadays.
None of today's knowledge, innovation or technical awareness existed back then, they were literally flying ticking time-bombs, considering the lack of technical availability or structure in these old birds.
Btw don't get me wrong, ain't disagreeing with a single word you commented, neither am I tryna excuse the poor decision making of this captain. He failed in any possible way. The only thing we might argue about is the decision to continue (which must've already been considered mental by the investigators, back in the day), but it's at least understandable considering time pressure
The captain was charged for both case:
For Flight 3378, the captain was charged for safety issue and result in suspended along with 6 months penalty
For Flight 1153, both pilot was charged for praying during the crucial moment, broke the cockpit rules and was fired from the job.
really, fired for praying? wow.
Hold on, thats ilegal!?
@@croaviator876legal or not, I ant my pilots to fly the plane, not look for any god to do it for them.
@@Patco11 Correct. Sterile cockpit especially during an emergency.
So at least they survived.
Great job TFC, I'm always impressed with your detailed research and ability to source all the original materials you use in your videos. Very sad that the second crash occurred - we sometimes simply do not sufficiently learn from earier mistakes.
As a Tunisian, the second pilot was one of the best in our country.. He wasn't guilty as he did his best to save the airplane.. No one would think correctly in such moments..
He was highly professional, as was the FO.
Yet he was jailed!
@@ChokeslamToHell He was jailed because he did not do his fuel calculations and instead relied on the fuel gauges to tell him how much fuel he had.
@@PatmofarI thought it was because he could have made the glide to land, but didn’t think he could. But it was a very close call, only a tailwind would have allowed them to make it. Not something to be jailed for!
The fuel issue was from the faulty gauge that was installed the night before. Not their fault.
That's a dumb reason to put him in jail. Especially since most of the time pilots are going to trust their instruments, they had no reason not to. If they had to imprison someone, imprison the airline maintenance that installed the incorrect equipment.@@Patmofar
Wow. Your graphics are getting scary realistic. Awesome job.
It’s a game called Microsoft flight sim 😂
@NicLovesAviation do you know if I can play this game on x box one series X?
What is the latest version of this game 2023?
I always waiting every week for this channel, very awesome animation
That first Captain is very irresponsible.
As opposed to... the second captain?
@@eno88 Yes
Wish you had kept the old music and included the brief message of memorial words for those who died on the second flight!
Agreed. I didn't like the abrupt ending to this video.
Agreed
@@SarahRenz59Nor did I. It felt unfinished.
I was shocked to learn that in the ditching there were 16 passenger deaths. It's one of the few places where the simulation may have had noticable flaws; the hull stayed intact in the simulation but in real ditchings, it almost always breaks apart and the pieces tumble. The deaths are by blunt force trauma as much as drowning. It is *incredibly* difficult to ditch a plane and keep it intact; as far as I know it's only happened once.
Salt water is as hard as concrete, if it was a fresh water landing it would be very different.
@@jokers7890 Fresh water is just as hard when you hit it at speed. There have been freshwater ditchings that ended exactly the same way: A broken hull and a lot of dead people. No matter what angle you land at, sooner or later, the nose is going to catch the surface, and at that point the hull breaks up and people are thrown into the water, or banged about enough to kill them.
Even the famous Sullenburger landing worked only because the plane's *engines* took the brunt of the impact. One was ripped right off, but they acted as brakes, so by the time the hull hit the water it was almost at a dead stop and only submarined instead of breaking apart.
I am no pilot but after the third attempt I would have returned to the airport with an emergency landing
Me six months ago: why is CZcams recommending this channel to me?
Me now: Woah, that extended landing gear is going to cause drag and thus more fuel consumption! This situation has 'flame out' written all over it!
They should have terminated the flight immediately and returned to Chania. The failure of the landing gear could have been caused by another problem on the aircraft.
But it didnt and they would've landed just fine had the Captain didn't get so damn complacent with the fuel being low.
Had he listen to the F/O they would've landed just fine and this wouldn't be a video
And if you try four times to retract and it works they may not come back down.
The first captain was missing a few screws
I think the ATR-72 is the plane that would have made land if they had feathered the propellers instead of trying to restart the engines.😥
I agree. I was thinking "Did they feather the propellers?" That could've taken them to a safe landing onshore.
Yes, they would had made it without issue if they feathereed when the double flame out occurred. Instead they were still trying to restart engines even though they were going into a ditch procedure. Ditching doesn't have a step to include trying to restart engines.
Looks like a 3rd world faulty plane to me... shoddy 😔😔
Remember its easy in say what we know now in hindsight. However being in that situation its another thing altogether. In a full motion atr simulator you could get the aircraft to glide the distance. However the simulator pilots knew they needed to glide. The FQI was still indicating fuel in the real aircraft this caused the pilot to believe that fuel was not the issue so they continued to try and restart the engine because the FQI was lying to them. In the simulator if you mess up you have a magic reset button which returns everything to normal. This is very different in real life.
@@PEPcessna, true that.
I love this channel, it allows me to decide a better choice of aircraft or airlines to fly. And...the ones to avoid.
That was one of the most intense moments you’ve recreated. This video is very, very good. As a native french speaker, I was surprised to hear the pilots speak small bits of my mother tongue through the arabic.
Yeah, « Allez-y ! »
In the second incident, I think the pilots were criticized for not feathering the props. Apparently the plane should have been able to make Palermo, but the props not being feathered produced a heap of drag.
I even know you need to do that and I’m not a pilot
Nice video man 👍
Have you watched it yet 1 minute into it?
@@JSFGuy he assumed that video made by man is good (no need to watch) 🤣
@@nomadinscribe228 Oh ya ..
The common them of survival on all of these emergency landings is to dump fuel. Leave the plane with little to no fuel and the chances of survival increase exponentially due to no major explosion.
That seems logical, as if they are going to crash land early anyway they may aswell dump the fuel a couple minute before
If there is any lingering doubt,return to the airport.this was not a puddle jumper.also wonder if he would have just re-fueled in Vienna,another mistake
I was an AC fueler in the USA for 5 years... any fuel quanity issue required a calculated fuel load followed by a mechanic physically verifying the load with the mag sticks intalled on the main tanks and monitoring of the fuel added... This was stupid.... 1000lbs of Jet A is 150 US gals...
The first pilot is criminal. Could have choosen 20 airports before Vienna, including the one he took off.
Very frustrating when flight crews and maintenance do their jobs in manners that leave quite a lot to be desired
Just wanted to say Chania, Crete looks to be a wonderful place. I've only seen it from the passenger seat of the Google Map Car, and can say even though I don't fly anymore, it'd be tempting to go on a trip there. So sorry people who are just going for a good time suffer such tragedy.
Using the FMS..geez, they know how much they have, via fuel flow gauges, how much they are burning per minute, what's needed at their destination..pretty simple arithmetic.
Your films are excellent btw and addictive. I actually watch them before I fly - strangely calms me! This incident has a familiar scenario with the captain, who later got a suspended sentence, in denial and refusing to admit the full scale of the situation. Why? Because he should have turned back at the start of the flight. I'm starting to notice patterns of behaviour having watched your videos where crew double down on their mistakes.
surprised people died in the second video, the plane glided in so slowly and gently, more gentle than a car crash at 40mph...
I think the water decelerates the horizontal speed of the aircraft incredibly fast, causing it to breakup and/or backflip, which contributed to their deaths.
Maybe some drowned?
You're not tied into your seat like an F1 driver, neither do you wear a helmet...you can't just expect to survive a sudden deceleration from at least 250 kph to a standstill (I don't know the exact figures for an ATR72). You're gonna be extremely lucky if your head doesn't get slammed against the seat in front of you without actually crushing your neck. Sorry to point it out like that, but it ll help you understand how lucky the 23 survivors actually were.
@@MarcelB787 Don't think they were going anywhere near that fast, but still a pretty nasty jolt.
its not a standstill though, its a glide across the ocean surface, thats like saying landing on the runway is like slamming into it@@MarcelB787
You would hope they would land straight away if landing gear fails to retract
True however the main issue was how the captain disregarded the F/O.
Had he listen they would've landed at the nearest airport, reported the problem and from there resume whatever else
Thanks for the video. In the first incident, why is there a rule that you can continue flying with a landing gear down, as long as you keep to the recommended speed limits? The drag it creates clearly contributes to mass fuel consumption, as shown in the incident. And they managed to make it to Vienna by the skin of their teeth, fortunately for them they were approaching terrain and not more sea.
The second incident with the ATR 72 was tragic. And I do feel it when I learn maintenance did not do or check or were incompetent, leading to a crash. A part that wasn't compatible for the ATR 72, are they not labelled?! Maintenance should be briefed regularly, to comprehend how important, if not fundamental, it is to get the job done right, because there are lives at stake.
How the ATR 72 just had no chance at all from the outset. It must have been horrifying for those onboard. The captain and FO were jailed for the crash. Why, did they do the maintenance?! The same captain noticed the fault and registered it with maintenance the day before, it should have been maintenance up in court over the crash, not the two pilots.
He was sent to jail cause he prayed.
So you think they got rough justice due to being Muslim?
@@GCarty80 No! Any prayer is condemned. You are to obey the Corporate God which stated what to do in the manuel.
With that first one, well, at least they reached the airport. But that captain needs to lose his job and his pilot's license... how hard would it have been to turn around and land at the airport & have maintenance check to see why the landing gear won't retract? And then maybe put the passengers on a different plane?
The treatment these pilots got after the crash was so unfair...
I meant the Tuninter 1153 pilots btw
Which crash? There's two in this video.
@Leha__777 the captain in the first one deserved it. The pilots in the second one did everything they could think of.
@@Leha__777The Captain and First Officer of the second flight were sentenced to prison
@@DrakionClaw For praying
Despite their heroic save, they pray before landing, an action which its NOT ALLOW in cockpit as it broke the safety cockpit rules.
@@Leha__777 it's the second one as the replies correctly suggest. I saw the title first instead of the video. My bad
Very nicely done, as always! A little mistake at 13:12. DPWS should of course be: GPWS.
Second one the ATC was useless
I remember the beginning of Hapag Lloyd Flug in 1975, just operating 4 Boeing 727 from their homebase Hanover-airport HAJ.
I completed a professional internship as an aircraft mechanic at their homebase back then.
It was a very good airline, even offered a scheduled flight HAJ-FRA-JFK using the Airbus A310. Their onboard service was very good.
Later their operations and aircrafts were taken over by TUI-flight.
According to the internet the Captain and first officer on flight 1153 survived, however the engineer(who was just a passenger trying to help, not crew) did not make it.
Yeah ,Chokry the Enginer died in the crash,May he rest in peace😢
Miracle on Hudson survival rate is even more impressive now that I see this.
it was FRESH water.....salt water is like hitting concrete....MASSIVE DIFFERENCe.
Ahhh. Never thought about that!
These animations are INSANE.
mh 370
What? No report at the end? No outro?
that was very strange, usually there is a very informative ending
With the first plane, everyone lucked out. And I mean luck. Bad decisions by the captain. Even ignored his first officer. Almost didn't make it. But the second plane, the pilots and crew did nothing wrong and people died. Maintenance mistake, putting in the wrong part. Very sad. RIP 16 souls.
For that ATR42, in the episode of Aircrash Investigation of that crash they showed, that if they had known that they were out of fuel, and had immediately started the glide towards Palermo, with feathered props, instead of trying to restart the engines, they would have made it safely to Palermo! But of course they saw on the gauge that there was plenty of fuel on board, however actually the tanks were completely empty.
In the Hapag-Llyod case, were both pilots so fatigued they couldn't function? The captain declined to take action until it was too late. It was the copilot's obligation to recognize that the pilot was, effectively, incapacitated due to ego, fatigue or whatever other reason. It was then the copilot's obligation to remove the captain from command of the aircraft and decisively take control of the jet, declaring an emergency and looking for an airport closer than Vienna. I would have thought that FMS's could allow you to plug in not uncommon anomalies, like stuck landing gear, into its models. If not, perhaps the airline should create a suitable calculator for each model of aircraft. Is that done today, in 2023?
yeah should've moved back to chenia immediately ...
That was in 1975, before the Tenerife disaster in 1977 that forced air regulations to change to emphasize the CRM.
Something similar happened in Russia few weeks ago, I believe September 12.
Airbus A320.
In Siberia, between Omsk and Novosibirsk.
Gear down, so pilots apparently miscalculated remaining fuel.
They landed in a corn field, I believe 170 total people on board, no fatalities, no injuries!
The airplane looks intact on the pictures.
Some say the pilots are heroes for MASTERFUL landing in a corn field, others are saying (myself included) they need to be criminally charged for not calculating fuel properly. Obviously they made a mistake, the real question : was this mistake criminal negligence.
Of course, the investigation will take time.
Hopefully somebody does a youtube video about this soon
I don't know.....the way these ATCs respond to these pilots that are in life and death situations just kill me......"Good Luck!" ??? What? Also, its not like ATC was telling them...ok, we will contact these ships and make sure they are aware you are ditching......and then its like....Come on Guys, its only 20 miles.....surely you can make that....what is wrong with you? .....I mean, I suppose it would help if the Pilots would tell them both engines are down...then maybe that would make the ATC a little more aware of the dire situation as oppose to....what? You can't make it......surely you can....whats wrong with you?" kind of attitude......the other interesting thing about the second tragedy is ....did they even inform the passengers as to what was going down? and how to handle a ditching.....as it seemed like they were only communicating between themselves and the ATC......but I hope there may have been some flight attendants that were aware and prepared the passengers.....anyway, great vids as always and I seem to recall you having done the first one before......as the casualness of the Captain on the low fuel....its almost like....sure, its low, but we will have not problem getting there and if we do run out...no big deal.....almost like he is driving in a car and playing daredevil with the fuel tank gauges.....incredible, although the 1st officer knew what was up.........
Agree. It almost seemed like there was language barrier or some other communication issue with ATC. How many times did they ask them to notify the ships and ATC never responded to that request? Even if you can't do it, at least tell them you can't do it. I thought the same thing about notifying the passengers...didn't hear them make an announcement to prepare to ditch. Maybe the cabin crew took care of that....
@@gusmc01 yeah....I mean....I realize they are in the middle of trying to save themselves, but surely they owe their passengers a little bit of an explanation as to why they are flying so low and slow LOL!...
I'm amazed at how many "pilots" there are in this forum that would have done it better than anyone else in every incident or crash that this channel talks about 😮😮😮😮
Ain't that the truth. I didn't realize how many viewers are pilots, and faced the same emergencies, but came thru safely.
Also, as to the second situation, I really doubt that the pilots were jailed for praying. One of the comments stated that the pilots are supposed to calculate the fuel on board and not rely on the instruments. If true, then they were negligent and should have been jailed. However, I am one of the few viewers who is not a pilot, so I don't know if that comment was correct.
where did you get the Tuninter livery from?
This is one of the many reasons I won't fly. I have not been on an airplane since 1976.
Too many things go wrong. Run out of fuel, mechanical issues, plane has metal fatigue, pilots are inept.
I'll keep both feet on the ground.
Rip to all who died😢
With the 2nd one, it was so hard to understand what they were trying to say to each other, pilot and ATC. Just came across as strange.
They speak English very badly
The 1st of the two episodes....Unbelievable😐
This was a hard one to listen to. Especially the ATR72. They never gave up and did everything they could before ditching. Hearing them pray as they as they were touching down gave me the chills. God Bless them…
They were jailed too…
Its crazy how in this video the wrong captain was sentenced to jail
yup the first one was a lucky bastard ... incompetent as hell ... the hard verdicts are only given when there are deaths.
BRUTAL!!!!
Appreciate the content but are you getting lazy with the sudden ending? Where's the info, deaths, etc.?
yes, I was waiting to hear if the ships rescued them? C'mon at least that detail!
This all seems very familiar, has it been uploaded to CZcams before already on this channel?
The landing gear , producing more drag would have increased fuel usage. I think the captain and co pilot did well to glide that plane to the runway in Vienna.
Hello. I really love your channel, overall it is one of my top five channels of choice, i do watch lots and lots of videos on CZcams and yours are by far amongst the very best at any given time
BUT, Sir you need to know there are quite considerable number of subscribers and viewers coming from non-English-speaking-countries and the texts / subtitles, the texts meant to explain the videos, always remains for a very short period of time on the screen, not enough time for us to read, which really do negatively effect our experience watching your precious videos, I've advised you several times before as I also noticed few other viewers complaining and addressing the very same subject, however for some reason we're probably considered amongst the undeserving, or the unworthy viewers 🙂, since our notes goes completely unnoticed, or honestly I believe overlooked is a better word.
Regardless what me and the respectful other few viewers are complaining about and Regardless that you prefer to ignore us, i still willingly and gladly choose to pause almost everytime while reading your explaining texts, rather than abundaning the whole channel alltogether.
Have a good day 😊
I say try to slow it down to 0.75 playback speed but it might ruin your experience. I prefer that to pausing many times though.
If I remember right, pilots failed setting up the plane for gliding, with the proper configuration they could get Palermo safely
This ends suddenly. Wheres the rest of it?!
he’s become a content factory
4:12 final destination…. Not a good sign?…..the captain was shocking even as a non pilot I’d have made a better call here
I don't understand why the pilots in the second video were blamed when the wrong parts were the cause of the fuel deficiency. Were they held responsible for not noticing the inconsistency of the readings at the beginning of the flight? Could they have done anything better if they hadn't resorted to praying when the situation looked hopeless as they were landing on the sea?
We’re they? I didn’t know! I felt they were very responsible by heading towards 2 ships and ditch nearby. Good thinking. How did the people die? By the force of the impact or drowning?
They had to feather the propellers. They would have glided safely to Palermo.
Palermo Approach was bloody useless.
wowww these folks are VERT lucky. like beYONNNND lucky.
Thank you for telling me that that was a shipping container. I would never have known otherwise.
With the upper wing shape of the ATR, would it be floatable when ditching? Just a little bit curious
The captain praying in the middle of an emergency seems inappropriate given the circumstances. His focus should be on the matters at hand.
Good fuckin video bro
You didn't even watch all of it. Your comment is 8 minutes into a 17 minute video so no.
Hapag-Lloyd, dont quit your day job.....flying isnt for you...
Hi Where do you have all the Nice Planes in Microsoft flight sim? Like the DC-9
As a pilot, the decision by the captain to continue with flight 3378 with the gear down over water is astoundingly reckless and irresponsible. The right decision has to be an immediate return to the departure airport, and the follow-up erroneous fuel burn calculations are just further proof of negligent incompetence by a supposed experienced captain who should know the basic fuel burn penalty with the gear down. And where was dispatch? Did they agree with this horrific decision? The crew took the blame, and rightfully so, but there were other participants who should have gotten that plane turned around, regardless of the maintenance ramification or the inconvenience to the passengers. Safety ALWAYS comes first. They were lucky they didn't auger into a condo!
Well, they did make it to Vienna as he said they would...
Best tip to survive ditching that most pilots didn’t know: once the aircraft is above 100 feet from water, u put your hands to your chest and try to be strong enough to stay remain on the seats when the aircraft have touched the water
I fueled the ATR-42s for Continental express in the early 90s....
Referring to this video, the pilot in the second video did manage to safely ditch the plane into the water. The plane did not crash. So how come the fact that as many as 16 people did not survive the landing?
Because in reality (unlike in this video) the fuselage broke in two on impact -- successful ditching of an airliner is _extremely_ difficult.
It just showed up.
I dont understand,if theirs anything not working properly,especially right after takeoff,why not cancel the flight and get everyone back on the ground safely? Ive seen so many of these videos,and heard other stories on the news,of the flight crew not taking stuff as seriously as they should,when youre thousands of feet in the air,the room for error is extremely thin,if at all,just abort the damn flight regardless of the issue and take the L on the money lost and fix the aircraft,why risk everyones lives? Plus the financial repercussions are gonna be way more if theirs an accident,I just dont get it
I thought that the ditching would be more successful...really sad. 😔
can't land in salt water, its like hitting concrete......only fresh water is soft enough
@@jokers7890I think the difference between this accident and US Airways Flight 1549 wasn't so much salt versus fresh water, as the lack of waves in the Hudson River.
Also Sullenberger may have been advantaged by the fact he was flying a low-wing aircraft with underslung engines, meaning that the engines took the brunt of the impact rather than the fuselage.
What the FLUG!!! 😮😮😮
You don’t have to say “the year 2000” anymore. Just call it “2000”.
Headwind in which year should be in the
How irresponsible. I've seen alot of flight crew negligence on this channel but this one falls near the top for sure.
Inadequately secured nut lock....sounds like maintenance crew failure to properly service the aircraft.....
plane shouldve returned to the airport with the gears like that...shows you airlines show high pressure and the pilots prob didnt want to get punished for it
the passengers must be so afraid
Did the pilots and engineer of the second aircraft survive?
The two pilots survived but the engineer didn’t (probably because his was in the jump seat and not as secure)
@@Vonononie crazy that there is so much force, if they glided all the way down, my condolences to the engineer rip
@@dominikdorn159 the Wikipedia page for the crash has a map of the plane and who survived. It’s very random where the survivors were sitting
@@Vonononie IIRC several passengers died because they inflated their life jackets before leaving the airplane. They needed to dive down to reach the door but couldn't due to the the inflated vests.
@@colincampbell767 that would explain the random pattern. Not the first time I’ve heard of people inflating and causing either their own or others deaths by getting trapped. Thanks for the info
Sure the fuel connector design enabled the issue but human stupidity made it happen along with cockpit denial. Like flying with Icaras.
Glide slope / sink rate
The crew flew onward due to $$$ pressures.
Yep.....see comment above
Sorry, but I can’t understand one thing. He makes the calculation using the FMS and the captain concludes that it isn’t possible to reach Hannover… but after you say that the FMS doesn’t take into account the extra drag… so, why he couldn’t reach Hannover? If FMS doesn’t take into account the extra drag, why it was saying that the plane could only reach Munich?
why you were in a soo hurry to end the second video man? no details on the recovery accident nothing.....🙊🙊