TheViper reacts to "Has the GOAT fallen off his throne?"
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Viper.
You've been changing in one major aspect.
Previously, you'd ALWAYS play the long game.
now, not so much. Oftentimes you're overextending yourself at one point or another in your offensives, which grind you down... something you used to inflict on others.
the sportmanship and friendship of the AoE pro scene is something else , you guys are legends.
Yeah only sometimes someone shouts something about "vagina shit" but we can forget about it ...
@@Davoodoox1what dont i know?
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Viper is OUR GOAT and that’s all that matters, kinda cool to see how DauT pushed Viper to be the best and now Viper has pushed Hera to be the best!
The viper is the most versatile. He won mixed maps, kotd, death match, MoS, MoA, wandering warriors. Hera has yet to replicate that, so truly speaks to Viper's greatness. Hera also improved significantly when hera opted for viper's style
Masters of Arena and Death Match world cup stand out as the furthest apart from Arabia and Arabia-like maps. It's the most impresive, because it takes so much time to master these unusual settings.
@@theodentherenewed4785 Did mastering Arena really take that much time for viper? If I remember correctly, the whole "clown" meme comes from the fact that non-arena players like Viper himself absolutely crushed Arena players in a big tournament back in the days.
the goat stays the goat so far, 1 year of of not beeing the best is not enough to make egalize a decade of achievements
Ye daut always be the goat.
exactly @@robmorgan1989
It's not just a year of dominance but the quality of the player. The people viper used to dominate are no longer at the top (Riut, Daut, Dogao and so on) only Yo seems to remain competitive at the very top. Hera, liereyy gained experience that they lacked to overtake viper. So if the current crop had matured 8 years back, he wouldn't be so dominant.
@@abdalucchash5717lmao, the only reason Hera and Lierry beat Viper is because of Viper's problems with his wrist. The last tournament he played without issues was Hidden Cup 3 and I don't have to remind you how godly that performance was. And even after that he has won many tournaments, no one apart from him would have been able to cope with that wrist problem.
@@abdalucchash5717 this makes no sense when you start saying "If ". you are saying the people Viper played against in his prime years were not good. There are so many counterarguments to it. And one could also say that the current crop matured because of The Viper. Quick walls, Macro, and micro.Viper had it mastered. The fact remains Viper Dominated.
The Viper is the Michael Jordan of Aoe 2. There were many greats before him and the talent is at an all time high now but Viper was the Goat during the biggest boom of AOE, the rise of twitch creators, and youtube content. It parallels MJ's rise during the advent of televised basketball. It was the perfect storm. Pure dominance when there was the greatest opportunity to turn it into a spectacle. GGs viper. It has been an absolute pleasure to watch you over the years and hope I get to continue to watch you.
He was good enough to get special thanks in official AoE 2 guides and manuals back in the early 2000s and keep receiving that credit in future dlc releases
I absolutely LOVE the fact that Viper is just having a good time with this and honest.
I believe whole heartedly the fact hes not winning every match like there is no contest is ruddy good for the game.
Please continue to "suck" for a while, then you can win every match again Viper.
Man, I don't care what happens in the future. Viper, i have a huge amount of respect for you as a player and a person. As far as i am concerned, you will always be the GOAT. You kept this game alive through its quietest time and honestly revived it and brought it back into the lime light.
I think its fair to say that all of us AoE fans owe you a debt sir. The fact that i not only still occasionally play this game, a game i first played when i was 4 years old, but get to watch pro level tournaments, is a real treat.
Thank you sir!
If Viper delivers up to a certain level (at least quartelfinals in most tournaments) I will watch him forever. He's too much of a nice and funny guy that I don't really care about him being the best in the game or not
Same. He cracks me up.
Yes 🎉
The viper has nothing else to demonstrate, I just love watch him having fun!
Thats a nice comment I hope he watches this channel and sees it!
That feels like a really arbitrary cutoff point but ok
I was deployed to Honduras in a hooch with rain pouring down with headphones on, all alone just elated for you whenever you won that RBW3 tournament. The Teutons pick in the last game was so hype, and the way you systematically broke Larry down, your ability to strategize, plan ahead, and adapt is so impressive as someone who has watched the game for so long. Sometimes i feel bad for your opponent because you leave no holes for them to exploit, it's like the match is over before it even begins.
Honduras?
RBW 3 was won by Daut. RBW V was won by viper
@@leonardogino3448 small country in Central America.
I think Microsoft should consider adding an easter egg or two to the game in recognition of what folks like Viper, T90 and Hera have done for the game.
I believe the "Masterpiece" achievement is a reference to Viper
And Tatoh
Castle of doubt achievement
No, fatslob is more deserving.
Viper. Don’t let it get in your head dude. Don’t let it bother you because then it will mess your game play up. You are the goat and we love you. Water off a ducks back and DONT LET IT IN YOUR HEAD.
That is the important thing.
My man you are a legend. I discovered you because of T90's commentary and tbh you are beast. It doesn't matter if you do not win everything, you are still great guy and tbh I even started to watch some of your videos because it is super interresting to see how your mind works. I wish you at least 10 more years in AoE II and let it give you joy and money you well deserve.
You’re a great guy and that’s what matters the most. I hope to keep watching you dominating the game in the years to come. You make this game that I love for 20 years still alive and I will always thank you for that.
Hera talking about changing to a more serious team, meanwhile Viper: "... so he joined a team with MbL..."😆
I usually watch CZcams at 2x speed but this one i watched normal. Really cool to feel the emotion of it and hear vipers takes too. Great work
Same I was about to speed it up and stopped myself. It was too good.
Oh my what a nice video. All the footage.. The teutons game is something that I rewatched a year later. Legendary.
This guy has not fallen off his chair even once
Except that time DauT trapped an eagle
Liereyy was such a sick player and an amazing talent looking at how much less time he spent with the game compared to Viper or especially Hera in recent years.
Kind of a sad story though, how incredibly often he appeared in the Finals of S-Tier tournaments and did not take them: Kotd 1, Kotd2, NAC1, NAC4, Grand Melee, RBW3, RBW5, RBW6 are the ones coming to mind. (He also has quite some S -Tier tournament wins, but still...)
Also when he lost, he lost with a lot of class when you look at his reaction after the gg against Viper in RBW5.
I wish he would be able to put in more energy and maybe break Heras dominance.
I’m glad you’re such a logical person, because that was an emotional rollercoaster 🥹 great video & react! HC3 when u were saladin i never wanted to see someone get crushed more after you dominated so brutally🤣 it was like who’s trying to win/compete against viper!?? Things have gotten much more competitive, and most importantly there’s a very healthy comradere at the top level with GL, AM, etc y’all get along well. Viper you’re humility is awesome, a great player indeed!
Aaah.. the Viper will be always the GOAT. He might not be the best for some time, but he is the goat ❤❤❤
11:38 the exact moment when Viper lost most of his hair...
i think there's room for everyone in the goat throne, people deserve the title for different reasons. and the thing is, once you're goated, your title can't be removed, it's just other people also reach the point where their gameplay is remarkable, and deserve to be celebrated. that can only be good for aoe, hera does well? that's good him and for viper. more competition, motivation. more banter. it's healty
Suddenly Tiramis pulls a video of The Viper in the bathroom, making clear he's spying on him
You have an insanely strong personality that you watch this, what must be an emotional and confronting video, without getting defensive or jealous. I'm sure this is also a strategic move, to create content, but regardless it shows the healthy competition at the top. There's not a lot of toxicity among top players and everyone contributes to a great atmosphere but I believe that the composed, friendly, respectful attitude of TheViper has especially shaped how the top community interacts. And sure, in time other top players will continue but they have a great legacy to live up to.
as a long time viper fan, i was secretly rooting against you. because i love your content, personality, and strategies. but its hard to root for a 99-1 over dog. i wanted someone to be able to beat you so i could suspensfully root for you, so i could eagerly wait for your next game and tourney story. and not just fill out every tournament bracket the same way each time
and now i can and have never been more excited for your next tournament where youre gonna get the win
youve fostered a great sense of competition and respect for your opponents and its awesome to see the scene grow. youll always be the goat to me for growing the game we all love
Your RB win is probably my favorite AOE2 moment of all time. That Teutons game 7 is legendary. Made my eyes water watching it in this video.
Great video! Great content and edits as always 💪🏻. As someone -new- following pro aoe, now I understand why some call lierrey “the kid” xD dang watching you all “so young”.
Tiramus even squeezed a cry moment with wristy thing😢
This makes me want to go back and binge these tourney games again!
There is something to be said about how all the high level elite players came out the gate learning and evolving the game to its max. Viper was first out the gate and it took everyone years to catch up. There’s a certain genius quality to that firstness. Pioneering the meta.
I remember watching on voobly that huns x goths game where Hera said he would quit aoe if he lost. After seeing Viper win that game, I was convinced his level would never be touched.
A few days later, I was playing and randomized that very same map generation 😂
I barely play nowadays but I'll never forget the great memories of the aoe2 community.
That little clip of KOTD1 reminded me that I did the graphical mod for that tourney.
I remember being a huge Viper fan and still loving to see him loose to Mr.Yo on redbull, because he was just so incredibly dominant at that time...
I wouldn't say that being the GOAT is simply how many tournaments you've won. It's also what kind of a person you are. And you, Dear Sir Mr. TheViper, are the most umböl of them all. It takes a lot to be at the top and stay like that, and that's what i personally still have to see from Hera. Otherwise, he's just another random player who made it to the top. Which is also a very huge achievement, but it won't just make you the GOAT.
For me you are still the best, even if there is a bit more competition lately❤ I am following you since 2011 and you never disappointed me, even after loses you are always fair and optimistic - please stay like that, and please don't leave the competitive AoE2 scene!
Your RBW5 victory made me cry of happyness - having goosebumps when I am seeing those moments.
Viper fell off his throne when he was trying to pick up the hair that left him 😅
Can we get a T90 and Hera reaction to this as well PLEASE!!!
I think above all the competition has improved by A LOT. Let's also acknowledge that.
it's so funny how the pictures on the wall change depending on the context :D
I definitely think there's some good historical videos waiting to be made for AoE2. I'm only of those "2010 onwards" people, coming in sometime around War is Coming, but I've never been involved in the community, only following it, so I think I'll have to leave it to others with better memories and more involvement. Perhaps it's a little too niche, but I'd love more obscure details, especially from the pre-2010 era (although footage and recs will be harder to find and players harder to contact).
Viper winning all tournaments isn't why I root him. It's the attitude and the sportsmanship, not to mention we share a last name so it's hard not to.
Viper's dominance of the game along with zero empires and t90 got me hooked on this beautiful game once more!
😂😂😂 “can’t I at least get second??” Love the snake!!!
ill always root for you buddy. thx for staying around
That was a really cool Video to see, Ørjan Larsen!
As a pro desk-jockey, who's had RSI if you want to fix your wrist: Deadlift. Trust me.
It'll take 3-6 months, but you'll find it's so, so much better.
No idea why it works given it's a static hold from your wrist's point of view, but it does.
Viper as a person is so kind and humble i will wach him forever even He lost first round 🤣
The Viper is definitely the greatest player in AOE overall, for the sole reason that he invented very important actions that everyone else adopted, such as quickwalling, shooting the boar with the TC and multiple boar luring among other little things (correct me if I'm wrong).
23:00 - To be fair, I would argue that most people around now were brought on becuase of Twitch and the like. eSports and whatnot was not nearly as prolific until Internet and matchmaking advanced. Before 2010ish, communities were largely based on forums imo.
The "Damn look how much hair I had" comment had me in stitches man!
GOAT is forever! Never a dull moment watching TheViper!
ESPN 30 for 30 presents: The Man, The Viper, The Goat
Wonderful watch. Really enjoyed that.
man ! emotional and the snake is back !
The Daut clip at the beginning made it sound like you had passed away 😂
12:00 man i had to cry seeing that live maaaan what a time
Love the haircut Viper! Looks sick! Great video too
I have to say back in the days I wanted to see you loose, because you were so strong. But then I realised you are such a nice person and I loved your wins. To me you are still an amazing player, just the competition became harder and more people know the game as much as you. Still I think you will win soon
You are the king I would follow anywhere, to any battlefield
I got chills
This was a great video. Excelsior !
Just watching your records on TheViper Liquidpedia page shows that he was ABSOLUTELY thrashing everyone for 8 straight years. There really was no competition, and while it was a great time for TheViper, there was already a need for some serious new contenders. Even if he never gets back to his golden years, it is safe to say that TheViper has the crown for greatest of all time.
Next big tournament we need to give Hera the Goku reverse genkidama treatment and pass him our FC-into-lose energy
I like how uncomfortable viper was with tiramis editing a wall full of his photos into the background.
Game 7 Red Bull 5 was so awesome
21:42 imagine scream watching your game like that, no pressure
15:15 MBL catching strays 😭😭
13:04 im proud because i made that clip on Hera's twitch channel :D
You will always be the GOAT Vipy
The great danger noodle will always be the best entertainer.
I am happy that you got to go Skydiving sir. This is one thing I still wish to go do someday.
1:11 that Byzantine architecture and Chinese castle looked sublime. Please Devs may we have such superb buildings for DE Byzantines and China? Please.
Man! Sick beats 10:10.
This "documentary" just hypes me up for NAC5!😂
You are the goat forever man, I love you
“I’m not the goat, I’m the snake” said the GOAT🐐🐐🐐🐐
Beyond competitive aoe 2 tournament.. I feel that The Viper possesses a wonderful and amiable personality, making him approachable to everyone. And even if his content is about politics, I would still follow him and enjoy watching his content.
Becoming the best player has nothing to do with ur own way of success 🙌
Whatever you loose or win. You are the most entertaining AOE2 streamer. I like most of your decisions.
If Viper retired from AOE and went to full time reaction videos, he would still be more successful than 99% of the haters.
Bruh what haters ☠️☠️
A looooong time ago I use to root for Jordan every now and then. Talking like 10 years ago. In the last few years rooting only for Viper
I loved HC where you were Saladin. It was so clearly you and the commentary was just. somehow. missing. it.
Dang what a proper documentary went all Viper to the supposed end of tou career lmao we'll see about that bite coming back though right?!
20:33 should've added "...never gets housed..."
Don't forget Maimin_Matty and The Sheriff. They were a mean combination in their day! That was way before Twitch, before CZcams even existed, and before Voobly too. All we had then was MSN Gaming Zone.
Edit: But yeah, Viper will always be the best! Not just a great player, but you set a standard in sportsmanship and conduct too.
Viper is playing much better lately, its just that other players have improved too.
3:10 OMG, this is the most shocking moment of the video
he used to be so young and energetic...
We need a age of empires iceberg
I don’t think anyone delivers both social interaction and raw gameplay talent to the same level as Viper. Some guys have great CZcams and Twitch channels and some are purely hardcore gamers but no one does both quite like Viper.
I mean what viper has done in the past is something that will most likely make him hold the GOAT status for the rest of aoe2s life.
Where Hera might grow up to be the Mike Tyson of Aoe2, viper will always be the muhammad ali of Aoe2.
Just insane respect to both!
You will always be our goat number one dude! 💜
Hera outpost rushing and then losing is also a questionable decision
Great vid. You just have to make another where you pause (witch was the best part)more and is longer.
Folks want to shake things up
I love all you folks in the top ranks, but we all need to get better. The other 75,000 of us, I mean, it would be fine to see more shakeups in the top 100 or 1000 more compition for the qualifiers. A Hera game with Viper is alway great to watch, I don't care who wins.
20:45 He never go for losing strategy... yeah. but he never go for the fun ones like our man !
TheViper built the throne...GOAT.
Hera is definitely the demon lord to the hero the viper in this :)
Viper is the new DauT.
For me Viper will allways BE the Goat
And that's how Silverboi was born.
I think Hera is definitely the best player right now. He’s had a hell of a year. But even he admits that he’s not the Goat. In my opinion he can be considered a solid choice for the Goat if he keeps up this level of dominance for like 4-5 more years.
In any case, I’m happy that we have this amazing competition. I feel like the pro scene wouldn’t be as exciting without the healthy rivalry that Hera and Viper have 😊
Viper is still nr1 in our hearts ❤
Since, GOAT means Greatest Of All Time, Viper is still the GOAT. I think for someone else to be considered GOAT they need to win and dominate the competition for similar amount of time that Viper did. Its not impossible for someone to do that, but its difficult. I remember for a couple of years when Viper was dominating, if you bet against Viper you'd be a fool. But right now, while there is a favorite (Hera), there is still more than 20%(guesstimate) chance that someone else (Viper, Tatoh, Lierreyy or Yo) could win. Viper also dominated different formats (for example: DM, Arena) and most team game tournaments in that period.
Viper lost his throne, indeed. He is not the GOAT, because the throne is highly volatile. He now starts to enter the hall of legends, and that, is timeless.