What is a Vocoder? | Electro Harmonix V256 on Every Instrument
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- The EHX V256 Vocoder pedal is very cool, and I thought it would be fun to make a ditty where every instrument is recorded through vocoder.
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• The Voder - Homer Dudl...
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I love this channel man.. makes me want to do similar stuff in my studio.
thank you! hope you have fun discovering!!!
Do it!!!
Loved every minute of this demo. Thanks brother man!
thanks for listening!
There is just a whole different sense of magic about dedicated hardware.
💯 that’s where i’m at. honestly these days i view my computer in music as a powerful recording and editing machine but i prefer dedicated hardware for creativity.
some people make amazing music with software instruments. it’s MY limitation, no judgement, but they do nothing for me. i’ve been listening to Pat Metheny interviews lately and he’s in the camp of “YES AND BOTH” when it comes to music tech
I've had this for a few years now. I've been looking at newer vocoders but there isn't anything as original sounding or as efficient as the V256. Excellent video and thumbs up on how well you impart knowledge. What I did find was the TC Helicon Talk box which has a new take on talk box's with extras you didn't know you wanted. I have a Porta One so yeah we are subscribed. Oh yeah I use 30 - 60 min cassettes which save time with RWD ad FF. Well done and carry on!
ah thank you so much for the kind words! i gotta check out that TC Helicon because i’ve never had a talk box. happy recording and welcome to the community! 🙏
Excellent up front straight into it review!
thanks for watching 🙏
Excellent demo!
thanks for watching! let me know if there's something you'd like to see demo'd down the road!
Excellent vid. I actually own a V256 for years, but barely use it. Shame on me, it's actually a versatile instrument as you have brilliantly demonstrated. Thank you!
hope you’ve pulled it out and messed around!
I bought this today after I watched this Video years ago and I couldnt afford it then. It only had 4 out of 5 stars, which is completly insane considering that this can do every Vocoder sound that i ever heard.
yo! thanks so much! I love the 256 so much that i used it on a recent track:
czcams.com/video/Wv7M06ZMOK4/video.htmlsi=EekDymqyf_-S-7cL
"Sucked into a votex of synth vocoder and not come out for 8 weeks"
😂 you are correct
Thanks for the walkthrough!
thank you for the super thanks! glad it was helpful and let me know if you have any questions
exactly what I've been searching
i'm happy this was helpful!
genius. great video!
thanks Leo! bass hang soon!
This is so cool, i definitely want one.
check out this application of it!
who got the pop? (feat. Jordan Rose 🌹)
czcams.com/video/Wv7M06ZMOK4/video.html
The super low robot sounded like the weird voice leia had with that weird helmet she wore when she rescued Han from Jabba The Hut in Return of The Jedi.... could really do some cool stuff with something like this. You reminded me that I have one too, different brand, and haven’t used it once. Really cool weird song! I like weird and funky stuff like that. It would be cool to maybe use this on found spoken word samples from old films and radio... oh man and using some endless delay with some deep bass rhythms .... 😮
Great video! I learned a lot!! I hvae a vocoder (not an Elctro Harmonix, though); I am excited to try some of the things you talked about!
heck yes! have fun!
Nice video dude
thank you Tim!
Great Teacher 👍
thank you 🙏
Fun + inspiring ❤️🔥👍
thanks for watching! Vocoders are a blast! 🤘
Awesome vid! I probably missed it and went back and jumped around a bit, but am just curious how the vocoder affects the instruments with your voice, without hearing your voice? Is that with instrument mode or do you have it in the effect send? Sorry if that’s in there and I missed it, thanks for another great vid, Chris!
great question! I probably didn't make that clear enough. When you see hear me singing AND hear the vocoder, that should give some idea of how it works:
it's not that the vocoder affects the instruments with my voice, but kind of the opposite. The instrument sends a signal to the vocoder, or pitch, and my voice makes the sound when I sing.
also, did you check out the section where I use the BLEND knob? when I was recording with instruments, BLEND was ALL the way clockwise, so no dry vocal signal was getting through to the tape.
hopefully this makes sense. I feel like I didn't do a good job at the fundamentals on this one! Might have to do another simpler demonstration down the road. Cheers!
@@MadeOnTape ahhh that makes perfect sense, thanks so much!
underrated video
🙏 thanks for watching 🙏
This song is definitely the weirdest Made On Tape original that I've heard (in a good way of course)! I play Ableton's vocoder plugin live on my MIDI controller into my Porta Two, one benefit to using software is that I can use compression plugins with it because I don't have a hardware compressor :(
i bet it sounds amazing! 🤘
can this effect be used on just the instrument line without the need for a vocal performance ran thru with a mic? I’m asking because i’d like to apply a vocoder effect to an EWI? so, can you plug an EWI (or any other instrument) into the pedal and get the effect without a mic plugged in? pretty hard to play an EWI and sing at the same time.
this is a great question. Maybe someone can correct me, but I don't think that's possible with a vocoder. The way it works is that the voice/mic acts as both a gate opener and informs the shape of the sound coming out. I could be wrong! maybe get a unit, try it out, and return it if it doesn't work the way you're hoping? cheers! thanks for watching!
woooow... currently I only have the Boss RC505 with a vocoder effect in there... but it misses many of the festures of the V256, e.g. it doesnt generate it's own carrier, the carrier is taken from one of the 5 tracks which must play something otherwise the RC505 vocoder effect does just nothing. Will try out the v256 defintively and keep it if so nice. One bonus for the v256 is it's little size compared to the Roland VT4. Nearly the same capabilites, but twice that size because it has faders and not turning knobs. Since the VT4 is not available the V256 would be my favorite. Thanks for the demo... I already own the POG2 of EHX, the V256 would be a nice addition.
thanks for watching! I've never tried the RC505.
4:51 SUS
5:37 I was expecting "The formant is strong with this one"
it's a rare timestamp that makes me curious and look back and now i see the lost opportunity lol
Great video! Can I play a music wav or mp3 file in to one of the inputs then add my voice?
that's an excellent question and i wanna try it myself now! I have no idea!
i tried it here! thanks for inspiration!
czcams.com/users/shortsUt5BHA4fM9E?si=8G2-lMkdFH3mHdlg
I just picked up this vocoder and I'm having a pretty hard time using it, granted I don't have a lot of the equipment that you probably need to really run with this thing.
But I'm having a hard time getting my synth to control to tone of my voice, so I was wondering if there's a way to design a midi track in Ableton with the tone I want and then run that into the vocoder with my voice and then back into the computer? That's probably very confusing lol and I'm overall not smart enough for this
hey you're all good! it's not the most intuitive piece of music gear by a long shot:
i've noticed that my condenser, aka a sensitive mic, works best, even on high gain. what kind of mic are you using?
I have more questions but want to stay organized. You'll get it! (also, I'm not smart when it comes to midi, but you need an audio signal being sent to the Vocoder, not a midi signal)
@@MadeOnTape I just picked up a condenser mic, so I'll be playing with that as well. Do you think a midi track could be turned into an audio track that the v256 could read as pitch?
I don't even know what I don't know yet and I think that's the problem lol. This thing sounds amazing though!
@@DrPickleful for sure! MIDI can be sent out as audio...again, this is not my area of expertise at all so I wish I could help you more! Hope it works out!
Hi,
I connected my v256 to my Roland MV-1. The Groovebox plays a complete groove with drums, bass, pads and so on. If I turn the v256 to instrument ctrl, my voice jumps from deep to high like gone crazy. If I mute differenz voices, the vocoder effect gets better, but stays mono (a single voice) - also, if the MV-1 plays chords. Could you please teach me how to get the vocoder voice playing chords following the cords my groovebox plays? Thanks!
hi there! can you isolate the chords from your groovebox? i imagine the other groove elements could be getting in the way?
U great
U R Great!!! 🤘
Soundwave from the Transformers😁
Wow i use to have the same old school multitracker
it’s very cool and a lot can be done during mixdown!
So, if I wanna use this to control my voice with my guitar, how many xlr cables will I need in total?
one minimum, but two is good also depending on how you're recording it
Check out Russ Pahl using the V256 with pedal steel. It’s killer
ahhhh i will asap! LOVE the pedal steel
😂 great video
great comment ! 🙌
How does this compare with the ehx voice box
i personally havent used the EHX voice box, so hopefully someone else can chime in!
Is there a way to connect order pedals to the v256?
hey there! Absolutely! Going in or coming out. I purposefully kept these examples pretty raw, but I would put reverb after the signal... Also, the bass benefits from some kind of drive or synthesis, and I think in this example I'm using an octaver. Thanks for watching!
@@MadeOnTape coming out, if there is an instrument out, and a line out where should the signal go?
Surprised you didn't cover the Cher reflex tune.
It's the one reason to have this over other vocoders.
oooh which tune is that? couldn’t find it when i tried looking it up. thanks for watching !
"Au...to..bahnn......"
first time i heard that saga it blew my mind
Trying to emulate the vocoder sound on “Problems” by Joe Walsh.
11:57 GladOS?
Neil young’s 1983 album “trans” used these effects extensively. He was always quite experimental.
Aww man did you get your rewind button fixed???
not yet hopefully later this week 😬
@@MadeOnTape are you going to try and do the belt replacement yourself? Assuming it's the belt that is
@@mattwardynski7429 i'll do it myself if it's just the belt! if not that then I'm a little SOL
@@MadeOnTape good luck, you can do it!
I miss my v256.
i wish one back into your life!
that behringer reverb is surprisingly pretty good.
the EQ is for shit though. it barely does anything. I like that pedal though.
yes! it’s quite fun as an insert or for subtle room. slap the dimension c chorus after it and no one would guess it’s behringer
Buy yourself a cheap shoebox cassette player to fast wind your tapes.
ahhh i literally have one sitting two feet from me 😂
luckily i fixed the Porta Two!
None of the linked videos go more in depth... Nothing about how the I/O works etc... ANNOYING
oooohhhh i’m sorry! it’s been so long i’ll recheck for any
in the meantime if you have questions i gots answered
@@MadeOnTape ok well how do the outputs work when everything is bypassed. In looking for a pedal that has an XLR input with optional phantom power but can go into my guitar pedals via an instrument level output