Although these changes are welcome and have been long overdue, the xuv400 reportedly still has older battery tech compared to nexon, which is the single most important thing which should have been improved. Even the reviewers don’t bother to speak on such crucial matters… quite strange.
What exactly is old battery tech? NMC is more energy dense used in everything from Porsche to Rolls and more expensive. Tata uses cheaper LFP batteries which have more cycles and don't suffer from thermal runaway. Both battery tech exists for different needs.
Full charged Xuv400 delivers only 220kms when driven at 70kmph. The Car estimates are off by 25% where it shows 300kms but actually delivers only 220kms. Cars also takes 2.5hours to full charge from a 30kWh Fast charger. Edit: Please watch Range test videos on youtube by authorised channels such as Gaadiwaadi for reference
I am using one of this I am getting 280 in a single charge with Ac. The car support 50kw and only takes 15 mins to charge 50-80 which is so quick compared to its competitor. Also never calculate the time to charge from 0- 100 try 0-80 Because it's a universal rule to reduce charging speed after 80%.
With such low-range stats, it is only suitable for city drive (especially metropolitans) and not long distances. Furthermore, a common Weekend traffic jam around tourist destinations such as ones seen at Shimla/Manali/Mussoorie may drain the battery completely and leave the passengers stranded waiting for rescue in cold. So a big NO for long trips (not suitable for even 200+ kms ones) Even Banglore traffics jams lasting 2-3 hours on an average pose a risk of battery depletion especially if the battery is not 100% charged when started with the journey. The EVs require daily refuelling/recharging. And by the nature of batteries, the cells are prone to get weaker over time, hence, the battery backup is bound to deteriorate with time thus delivering even less range. (While most EVs give warranty on battery for just 7-8 years while the EV range starts deteriorating after just few years)
@@HkJ3708 Please watch the range test at Gaadiwaadi YT channel uploaded 3 days ago for updated XUV400. The video proof is valid while your statement is just verbal and cannot be taken as valid proof and rather an opinion for a 20L investment.
@@theBartSimpson Bro I don't know about the vedios but I am actually getting a decent range as I told and I have tried many Long rides. Also I am using the car at Munnar Kerala. 😊 Please note (I use L mode)almost always
Saare video banana jante hai, har koi bolta hai ki 280 ac ke saath,aur 308 bina ac ke par kisi ne yeh nahi bataya ki garmi mein 200 bhi mushkil se and baki Mausam mein 270 and kabhi bhi khade khade iska fan on hoon jata hai
Isn't it supposed to be Four Double O, and not Four Hundred? Coz I once heard from an auto journalist that every Mahindra cars name must end with an O.
@@TaizoonShikari good one. Now that you pointed it out, Thar has been rooting its DNA all the way back to when Mahindra manufactured Willy's Jeep for India. when we were younger we used to know it as Mahindra Jeep only. But then when Jeep actually entered India, it got redesigned, re-engineered and re-badged entirely as Thar in the 2010s (and somehow lost legal battle for its resemblance to Jeep Wrangler in Australia against jeep). So, compared to the current plethora of UVs which Mahindra is excelling on with entirely new design philosophy, Thar has much longer history. Maybe that's why they make it an exception. I dunno. My point being all the other cars are such that - ScorpiO, ScorpiO."N" (and not ScorpioN)., BolerO, BolerO NeO, MarazzO, XUV 5 double O ( which some pronounce it as 5 hundred), and so on. And I thought I knew of this from AutoCar India itself. Maybe it was from PowerDrift or Faisal Khan. 🙂
This is facelift 3 there was a facelift 2 which introduced Cruise control Traction control Electronic stabilisation programme Fog lamp Hill hold Aoto dimming IRVM Boot lamp 2 new speakers The new one only got some premium interior with Wireless AA , wireless charging and rear AC wents with auto climate control.
Some Nexon lovers are commenting like xuv batteries are inferior than Nexon My observations are... NMC (used in XUV 400) batteries are more expensive than LFP.(used in Nexon)... .. and because of higher energy density weight of NMC batteries are less so more suitable for automobiles... regarding battery charging cycle... ..if the NMC battery gives 1500 charging cycles.. for an XUV with 450 km range means a total of 675000 km... regarding thermal runaway...heat issue.... for NMC it is around 400 F and 500 F for LFP.... So if cooling system is working fine it will not create any issue or if cooling system fails both will have similar risk
" older battery tech ". What exactly is old about NMC? You do realise that performance cars use NMC instead of LFP because it's superior right? And if it was unsafe , govts would have banned them by now.
This updated version of the XUV looks like it has ticked most of the right boxes and is ready to take on the Nexon. I would prefer the subtle, sophisticated look of this one compared to the Nexon. I am unsure of the technology being used in the battery pack but I know that a friend of mine gets around 360kms in the 39.4 kWh battery. As someone in the forum pointed out, this is also way off the claimed 450 km range. NB. My friend has an 85% city commute and is mostly in the Eco mode.
Loved old innova with small bonnet giving better road visibility, wished all eV adopted similar feature. Battery and electric motor at bottom, making car smaller and distinct from ice cars.
Xuv is better for traveling between cities. Has longer range but the battery tech is gonna last less than 20 year's unlike Nexon who's battery should last more than 20 year's and also car has few extra features
Electric cars in compare to ICE cars should've been cheaper to attract more buyers to make more EV cars on roads which was the government idea. But they're charging 3-5L more premium than ICE versions. It's difficult for manufacturers to make buyers mind towards EV.
I think the main reason buyers aren't gravitating towards EVs in big numbers is not their price, but the "range anxiety". Even if EVs cost a bit more than their ICE counterparts, their operating costs are a lot lower. But long drives aren't practical with current EV infrastructure due to long charging times and dearth of charging stations.
in what universe can one expect a new technology cheaper than a century old tech?! Govt doesn't need to do anything here, electric car is not an essential commodity to waste tax money on subsidies.
@@mackisbrocklesnar then govt. should stop pushing the agenda of banning Motor Vehicles. On one hand, they are increasing gas prices and banning fuels (kind of) and on the other hand applying tremendous taxes on EV's and then saying buy these. What kind of logic is that...?? Matlab ab Kya insan paidal ghume har jagah..??🤦
The front look of this car is all wrong! They could have done a much better job of it. They have simply obliterated the front grille! That looks weird! This is the main reason why this car has not succeeded in market. Interiors are better but this is not enough!
What is wrong with these New journalists?? They simply miss the finesse in their words and delivery. It's just so ugly to hear them talk! Kirpalani, sourabhjee need to step up and train these weird kids..
@@saumil.shah28Glad to hear you taking this positively! The starting "Let me tell you what's changed" followed by "As you can see, nothing has changed" is an oxymoron. Sentences must connect when delivered together, perfect example of what looks good individually doesn't necessarily connect. Second, attention given to markings like 400, EV was completely unnecessary! I personally enjoy the short crisp descriptions which are less words and more meaningful which seasoned professionals are experts at. Eg. Kirpalani, Nikhil and the other team members at Autocar.
Design wise it remains ugly ..they have Scorpio N and XUV 7OO...then they have TUV which is even I can't decide but this remains a no go ..that screen is bolted in inside
With so much drama around EVs why dont they understand a simple thing, battery health will decline with increasing charging cycle and so would be the range , well before 8 yrs , ghar me mobile use nahi kiye kya……….
They will easily last 20 year's with degradation not exceeding 20-30% of original range. Enough Tesla's exist on the road as proof. Your 8 year number is for diesel cars lol
'Ghar ka mobile' me active cooling nahi hota. Whereas EV use cooling systems to keep thr cell temperatures in the safe optimal range which makes them outlast the car. If you dont belive me go read the reviews of Teslas which have done lakhs of miles with the stock battery.
Click here to watch this video in Hindi - czcams.com/video/mvKHp2iBMV8/video.htmlsi=RqJqPO7LE4YrPjEV
What is the wait time? Ty
Me who is waiting to buy XUV 300 facelift watching silently about the central console
Great choice bro it's way better nexon and it's safer than Nexon also ❤
Same bro. Bas budget ke upar na chala jaaye😢
@@Devil-rw6vhExterior Face-lift Needed
Same here just watching console
Waiting from long time
Although these changes are welcome and have been long overdue, the xuv400 reportedly still has older battery tech compared to nexon, which is the single most important thing which should have been improved. Even the reviewers don’t bother to speak on such crucial matters… quite strange.
What exactly is old battery tech? NMC is more energy dense used in everything from Porsche to Rolls and more expensive. Tata uses cheaper LFP batteries which have more cycles and don't suffer from thermal runaway. Both battery tech exists for different needs.
NMC battery range changes based on weather condition@@theelectricmile474
@hmm theelectricmile474
You could actually see on their Speedometer. With 44% battery 118kms is possible, so with a full batter more than 300kms should be possible.
@@theelectricmile474but LFP is more durable and has much longer life.
• Get rid of those COPPER things
• Battery type / range
Other than that... 👍
Battery type is NMC. Far more superior than LFP
More important than the interior was the inefficient AF powertrain. They should have fixed that first.
We need an ICE model with the same dimensions, not as creta rival but need more practical one.
That's not feasible for both Mahindra and customers. It'll attract more taxes and will be priced the same as creta. Nobody will buy it.
Yes absolutely. but I wish😂
U will have to pay more taxes bruh
Length increase more than 4 meter = Tax increase = Considerable price increase
EVs dont have this dumb tax imposition.. yet..
Agree 👍
Full charged Xuv400 delivers only 220kms when driven at 70kmph.
The Car estimates are off by 25% where it shows 300kms but actually delivers only 220kms.
Cars also takes 2.5hours to full charge from a 30kWh Fast charger.
Edit: Please watch Range test videos on youtube by authorised channels such as Gaadiwaadi for reference
I am using one of this I am getting 280 in a single charge with Ac.
The car support 50kw and only takes 15 mins to charge 50-80 which is so quick compared to its competitor.
Also never calculate the time to charge from 0- 100 try 0-80
Because it's a universal rule to reduce charging speed after 80%.
With such low-range stats, it is only suitable for city drive (especially metropolitans) and not long distances.
Furthermore, a common Weekend traffic jam around tourist destinations such as ones seen at Shimla/Manali/Mussoorie may drain the battery completely and leave the passengers stranded waiting for rescue in cold.
So a big NO for long trips (not suitable for even 200+ kms ones)
Even Banglore traffics jams lasting 2-3 hours on an average pose a risk of battery depletion especially if the battery is not 100% charged when started with the journey.
The EVs require daily refuelling/recharging. And by the nature of batteries, the cells are prone to get weaker over time, hence, the battery backup is bound to deteriorate with time thus delivering even less range.
(While most EVs give warranty on battery for just 7-8 years while the EV range starts deteriorating after just few years)
@@HkJ3708Please watch the Full Range test at GaadiWaadi channel for the new Xuv400
@@HkJ3708 Please watch the range test at Gaadiwaadi YT channel uploaded 3 days ago for updated XUV400.
The video proof is valid while your statement is just verbal and cannot be taken as valid proof and rather an opinion for a 20L investment.
@@theBartSimpson Bro I don't know about the vedios but I am actually getting a decent range as I told and I have tried many Long rides. Also I am using the car at Munnar Kerala. 😊
Please note (I use L mode)almost always
Did they change the battery type from NMC ?
He has no clue.q
It's still NMC which isn't bad
NMC thankfully. Wouldn't want to carry around an over sized LFP crap
As reviwer said they initially itself they should have introduced XUV400 with this changes. They might have given good compitition to nexon.
Saare video banana jante hai, har koi bolta hai ki 280 ac ke saath,aur 308 bina ac ke par kisi ne yeh nahi bataya ki garmi mein 200 bhi mushkil se and baki Mausam mein 270 and kabhi bhi khade khade iska fan on hoon jata hai
Battery type tell me lithium iron or phopate sir using
Tata is and will remain The OG
Isn't it supposed to be Four Double O, and not Four Hundred? Coz I once heard from an auto journalist that every Mahindra cars name must end with an O.
Thar?
That's what he clarified that this time it's "Zero Zero" not "Oh".
@@TaizoonShikari good one. Now that you pointed it out, Thar has been rooting its DNA all the way back to when Mahindra manufactured Willy's Jeep for India. when we were younger we used to know it as Mahindra Jeep only. But then when Jeep actually entered India, it got redesigned, re-engineered and re-badged entirely as Thar in the 2010s (and somehow lost legal battle for its resemblance to Jeep Wrangler in Australia against jeep). So, compared to the current plethora of UVs which Mahindra is excelling on with entirely new design philosophy, Thar has much longer history. Maybe that's why they make it an exception. I dunno. My point being all the other cars are such that - ScorpiO, ScorpiO."N" (and not ScorpioN)., BolerO, BolerO NeO, MarazzO, XUV 5 double O ( which some pronounce it as 5 hundred), and so on. And I thought I knew of this from AutoCar India itself. Maybe it was from PowerDrift or Faisal Khan. 🙂
@@turbohead2009 he also did say 3 hundred (while refering to the XUV300). and that emphasis he made get me to this question.
Same old NMC?
Yes
"old NMC ". Lol . Noobs talking about EVs in india is always so funny to read
Best automobile channel in the history of humanity ❤🎉😊
We don't have any choice. They show presenter face more than car itself.
Bruh
😂
Now you know how the interiors of XUV 300 facelift gonna look!!!
Have they introduced a Traction Control? Traction Control was missing in the previous iteration!
This is facelift 3 there was a facelift 2 which introduced
Cruise control
Traction control
Electronic stabilisation programme
Fog lamp
Hill hold
Aoto dimming IRVM
Boot lamp
2 new speakers
The new one only got some premium interior with Wireless AA , wireless charging and rear AC wents with auto climate control.
This guys is obsessed with the logo! All I could hear is logo!
Some Nexon lovers are commenting like xuv batteries are inferior than Nexon
My observations are...
NMC (used in XUV 400) batteries are more expensive than LFP.(used in Nexon)... .. and because of higher energy density weight of NMC batteries are less so more suitable for automobiles...
regarding battery charging cycle... ..if the NMC battery gives 1500 charging cycles.. for an XUV with 450 km range means a total of 675000 km...
regarding thermal runaway...heat issue.... for NMC it is around 400 F and 500 F for LFP.... So if cooling system is working fine it will not create any issue or if cooling system fails both will have similar risk
Very poor audio quality. Please look into it. Thanks
XUV400 had been launched using an older battery technology compared to Nexon. No word in this review if that has been upgraded to latest standards.
" older battery tech ". What exactly is old about NMC?
You do realise that performance cars use NMC instead of LFP because it's superior right?
And if it was unsafe , govts would have banned them by now.
@@nujjigram 💯
LFP is a cheap technology bro not the good one as everyone expect.
NMC is far better.
Any updates on xuv 3oo facelift
how tf does copper looks premium, this car looks so old and outdated and not at all attractive unlike the Tata nexon EV
Twin peaks, nice name for a logo
Did they updated battery chemistry?
Thankfully it's NMC. Much better than over weight LFP
Pls upload the new Punch.ev review
Why autocar is not making weekly automobile news from 3 weeks 👀
Coming back next week!
Range is a bit low for the price, it will dip more as it ages due to nmc battery tech. If they have updated, then fine.
This updated version of the XUV looks like it has ticked most of the right boxes and is ready to take on the Nexon. I would prefer the subtle, sophisticated look of this one compared to the Nexon. I am unsure of the technology being used in the battery pack but I know that a friend of mine gets around 360kms in the 39.4 kWh battery. As someone in the forum pointed out, this is also way off the claimed 450 km range. NB. My friend has an 85% city commute and is mostly in the Eco mode.
Loved old innova with small bonnet giving better road visibility, wished all eV adopted similar feature.
Battery and electric motor at bottom, making car smaller and distinct from ice cars.
use microphone in other video
battery tech pe kyu ni bolta koi???
Good improvements.✌️
Nobody is talking about the base model s battery type
upload in 4k
Exterior Face-lift 😮 is Needed
Everything is fine except back design is not good like box they have to chang back shape
Ventilated seats is a miss but not giving useless led headlights like tata is good move one can upgrade as per their own choice
When is mahindra going to understand the importance of ventilated seats???
Get XUV700
This update is too little too late. Nexon EV has moved the game way ahead.
this is extremely very good and the latest updated for 2024 is one the best ☺️
What is the price Of Mahindra Scorpio in Mumbai please 😂?
When castrol ad spins so big on top of ev video
Castrol ON is a range of transmission fluids for EV. apt advertising.
XUV400 is a good looking car......like RANGE Rover looks.
There are still Mahindra e20 running with same battery came from factory. Mahindr ev might be more reliable than tata 💁🏼♂️
Which is better Nexon EV or xuv400?
Xuv is better for traveling between cities. Has longer range but the battery tech is gonna last less than 20 year's unlike Nexon who's battery should last more than 20 year's and also car has few extra features
tata nexon ev killier unleashed awsome car autocar india ev market new champion
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the audio levels on this video are a mess. Please fire whoever edited this video.
It is 4OO not four hundred.... first know the name correct then describe the car...
Fear M&M Pure Ev is Still 3 Years Down the Line
Electric cars in compare to ICE cars should've been cheaper to attract more buyers to make more EV cars on roads which was the government idea. But they're charging 3-5L more premium than ICE versions. It's difficult for manufacturers to make buyers mind towards EV.
Bhai, aapko sach mein lagta hai yeh government taxes kam karegi??😂
Inhe chance mile toh hamare breathe karne pe bhi tax laga de...🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤣
EVs are more expensive to manufacture since they are quite new, hence the higher cost, as time passes maybe we'll see cheaper EVs in the market
I think the main reason buyers aren't gravitating towards EVs in big numbers is not their price, but the "range anxiety". Even if EVs cost a bit more than their ICE counterparts, their operating costs are a lot lower. But long drives aren't practical with current EV infrastructure due to long charging times and dearth of charging stations.
in what universe can one expect a new technology cheaper than a century old tech?! Govt doesn't need to do anything here, electric car is not an essential commodity to waste tax money on subsidies.
@@mackisbrocklesnar then govt. should stop pushing the agenda of banning Motor Vehicles. On one hand, they are increasing gas prices and banning fuels (kind of) and on the other hand applying tremendous taxes on EV's and then saying buy these. What kind of logic is that...??
Matlab ab Kya insan paidal ghume har jagah..??🤦
It looks like a decade old car, Mahindra has to up it's ante to match the competition, currently not even touching 10% of Tata's EV.
XUV 400 EVis way better than Nexon EV
The front look of this car is all wrong! They could have done a much better job of it. They have simply obliterated the front grille! That looks weird! This is the main reason why this car has not succeeded in market. Interiors are better but this is not enough!
What is wrong with these New journalists?? They simply miss the finesse in their words and delivery. It's just so ugly to hear them talk!
Kirpalani, sourabhjee need to step up and train these weird kids..
constructive feedback is welcome... please share what was "ugly to hear" from the "weird kid"
@@saumil.shah28Glad to hear you taking this positively!
The starting "Let me tell you what's changed" followed by "As you can see, nothing has changed" is an oxymoron. Sentences must connect when delivered together, perfect example of what looks good individually doesn't necessarily connect.
Second, attention given to markings like 400, EV was completely unnecessary!
I personally enjoy the short crisp descriptions which are less words and more meaningful which seasoned professionals are experts at.
Eg. Kirpalani, Nikhil and the other team members at Autocar.
Love it🥰🥰🥰
Awesome EV from Mahindra
Design wise it remains ugly ..they have Scorpio N and XUV 7OO...then they have TUV which is even I can't decide but this remains a no go ..that screen is bolted in inside
Please @mahindra get rid of those copper accents 🤢🤮
I will buy a PUNCH EV
ev car haha analog hand break ufff
With so much drama around EVs why dont they understand a simple thing, battery health will decline with increasing charging cycle and so would be the range , well before 8 yrs , ghar me mobile use nahi kiye kya……….
They will easily last 20 year's with degradation not exceeding 20-30% of original range.
Enough Tesla's exist on the road as proof.
Your 8 year number is for diesel cars lol
'Ghar ka mobile' me active cooling nahi hota. Whereas EV use cooling systems to keep thr cell temperatures in the safe optimal range which makes them outlast the car. If you dont belive me go read the reviews of Teslas which have done lakhs of miles with the stock battery.
Late to party
सब अंग्रेज भरें हैं क्या यहां
Simply 🤮, old design, old battery tech, low range and high price.
Noobs talking about " old battery tech " . Get educated
First view and first comment 😊
Somebody get this guy a Medal!!
Bad looking car. Especially those tail lights. And Mahindra should stick to making Boleros ...
Hindi bola karo bhai
❤
Hindi m bta deta
I hate the design. It is boxy, disproportionate, and the paint scheme is plain ugly.
I hate XUV 300/400 back look
Tum videsh mein ja ke review karo...i love 😘 hindi language
Same bakwas exteriors.....copper colour combinations are pathetic
Hindi me bol
It's a flop
This is a joke of car
Waste car